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Posted: 1/20/2022 4:25:00 AM EDT
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Russia doesn't want Eastern Ukraine, they want all of Ukraine. Don't expect them to stop there either. Russia won't be content until all of Eastern Europe is on their leash.
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Posted: 1/20/2022 5:24:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia doesn't want Eastern Ukraine, they want all of Ukraine. Don't expect them to stop there either. Russia won't be content until all of Eastern Europe is on their leash. If you're right it will be ww3 the second he crosses into a nato nation |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 5:57:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're right it will be ww3 the second he crosses into a nato nation No it won't. NATO and the USA are paper tigers. The US People do not have the capability to supply or wage a war. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 6:09:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's provide a welcome to our guest posters in this thread.  https://www.diggitmagazine.com/sites/default/files/styles/2_1_mobile/public/field/image/Cover_3.jpg?itok=_S18ng-e×tamp=1513447308 Drones and track suits. Welcome to 2022 Skynet will be born in California and delivered in old USSR by some damn squatting slavs. Whoda thunk |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 6:33:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just be careful on who you support. Not sure Ukraine is all that great. I mean, America is now the baddie. Those countries who have declared war on their own citizens (UK, Austrailia, Canada, USA, etc). Certainly all of these countries that I just mentioned have been co-opted by the globalists. Are NATO the good guys anymore? What kind of dealings went on with the Biden family and Ukraine. Remember the color revolution that happened in Ukraine? The globalists took that place over. It is Russia who refuses to bend the knee to Klaus Schwabe and the WEF. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/87826/6000D1D5-1914-44F9-851E-F9D34C9CC254-2189765.jpg Have not read the entire thread yet, just discovered it. Why is she boiling a slice of pizza ? |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 7:01:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ll keep adding posts as they become available Thanks, keep doing that. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 7:08:22 AM EDT
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Interesting overlap between Pfizerposters and anti-Russiaposters.
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Posted: 1/20/2022 8:50:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @guns762 is he in Tucson? If so there's a good chance I know him. I was the launch system lead for this  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW77hVqux10Yes. He is there.  I have no idea what he works on, though. All I get is, "Dad, I wish I could tell you what I'm working on, it's so badass."  He's still pretty new there, and young.
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Posted: 1/20/2022 8:58:43 AM EDT
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Have the sniper teams talked about what they do to evade thermal? Has anyone asked them that?
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:02:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just be careful on who you support. Not sure Ukraine is all that great. I mean, America is now the baddie. Those countries who have declared war on their own citizens (UK, Austrailia, Canada, USA, etc). Certainly all of these countries that I just mentioned have been co-opted by the globalists. Are NATO the good guys anymore? What kind of dealings went on with the Biden family and Ukraine. Remember the color revolution that happened in Ukraine? The globalists took that place over. It is Russia who refuses to bend the knee to Klaus Schwabe and the WEF. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/87826/6000D1D5-1914-44F9-851E-F9D34C9CC254-2189765.jpg Mmmm, boiled pizza. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:09:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No it won't. NATO and the USA are paper tigers. The US People do not have the capability to supply or wage a war. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you're right it will be ww3 the second he crosses into a nato nation No it won't. NATO and the USA are paper tigers. The US People do not have the capability to supply or wage a war. The will of US politicians to support, let alone actively defend, an ally is gone. Look who's in charge. China knows it, Russia knows it, everybody knows it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:11:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have not read the entire thread yet, just discovered it. Why is she boiling a slice of pizza ? I took it as a parody about the overly made up Russian wife who doesn't understand western culture. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:14:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have literature on this? Which battles?.... Seriously curious. Thank you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: like the spanish civil war was a testbed for some aspects to blitzkrieg Do you have literature on this? Which battles?.... Seriously curious. Thank you. https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/spanish-civil-war/ Hitler also believed the Spanish war was an ideal opportunity to test the mettle of his newly-restored armed forces. He was particularly keen to assess the performance of the Luftwaffe (air force) in combat. Within two weeks of war breaking out, Berlin sent 20 planes and pilots to the Nationalists to assist them with flying in 3,000 troops stationed in Morocco. Most of the German military personnel who travelled to Spain for these missions were volunteers. They later became known as the Condor Legion. Over the coming months, German aircraft and personnel continued to assist the Nationalists: moving men and supplies, providing air cover for Nationalist ships in the Mediterranean, and carrying out bombing and strafing runs to support Franco's ground troops. Germany also provided training for Nationalist officers, thousands of rifles and small arms, even a radio transmitter for broadcasting propaganda. In October, Hitler authorised the deployment of German submarines to assist Franco's men. By the end of 1936, there were around 7,000 German troops and airmen fighting in Spain. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:38:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I took it as a parody about the overly made up Russian wife who doesn't understand western culture. Personally, when I was over there and didn't have a microwave or a oven, I preferred warming pizza up in a skillet vs boiling it
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:38:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We started out talking about the kind of drone that would make a difference in a fight between NATO and the Russians so I had expectations about what such a beast could do in that environment. That’s the perspective I had in mind. Though if the US gets a little rougher the hand grenade on a DJI think is going to be fashionable. That's why one of my first questions was, what's your requirements set? Because you added some very expensive options, that aren't actually needed to accomplish the objective. The better question I should have asked is what is your target set? If you want to defeat mobile hard targets (tanks, apcs) it can be done much much cheaper than the above. Soft targets (people, cars) even cheaper still. Because basically none of the above is needed for either of those two target sets. But the majcoms just "have" to have a net enabled, all weather, AJ, do everything weapon/system costs explode. The movie The Pentagon Wars, despite being a comedy, is 100% truth. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 10:36:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice! Beggers can't be choosers; Ukraine is lucky to get anything at all! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The imaging has improved, there's no longer a narrow fov and the standard fov, it's a smooth zoom. Range of weapon is now over 4km and it is 30% lighter. But I'm pretty sure Ukraine is not getting those. Nice! Beggers can't be choosers; Ukraine is lucky to get anything at all! Certainly!! It's a game changer for them. I was glad to see the NLAW's being delivered, but they aren't nearly as accurate and the range is only about 1 km. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 10:40:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, USA very bad. All hail Father Putin and motherland, am I right comrade? Fuck Putin and Russia too, but where is he really wrong outside of your assumption he likes Russia/Putin? |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 10:42:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia doesn't want Eastern Ukraine, they want all of Ukraine. Don't expect them to stop there either. Russia won't be content until all of Eastern Europe is on their leash. This, they are getting crushed economically and this is one of the ways to fix it. Ukraine in particular has a lot of resources to exploit. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 10:44:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have not messed with a newer one. I broke a CLU once though.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So not 300k for a rocket or 200k for a CLU. Has the imaging in the new, cheaper toy improved? The thermal in the jav clu used to be awesome, but it's dated. I have not messed with a newer one. I broke a CLU once though. lol, your that guy. Years ago we had to troubleshoot a system for the soldiers in the field complaining the night vision equipment was not working. Once we explained that they probably just needed new batteries all was well. I could hear gunfire in the background over the phone.
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:36:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have the sniper teams talked about what they do to evade thermal? Has anyone asked them that? There were some Youtube vids with info or footage from Ukraine a month or two ago I remember seeing on my feed. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:39:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wasn't it at Nellis where they were testing javelins and landed 2 consecutive direct hits on a t-72 sized target at ~3 miles? Which if its true is cool as fuck has anyone seen the pictures of the Russian t72s with the improvised anti top down atgms? I've been seeing pictures of Russian tanks on the Ukraine border with homemade looking lattice armor and metal cages welded to the top of the tank to hopefully disrupt javelins and other atgms that hit the top of the tank apparently they've also added thermal emitters in place of the snorkel on some tanks to hopefully throw off thermal guided atgms like javelins For illustrative purposes- 
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:40:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, your that guy. Years ago we had to troubleshoot a system for the soldiers in the field complaining the night vision equipment was not working. Once we explained that they probably just needed new batteries all was well. I could hear gunfire in the background over the phone. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:44:46 AM EDT
[#23]
State Department must have been watching a different Biden speach.
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:52:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For illustrative purposes- https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18486/IMG_6439_JPG-2247212.jpg That looks fun to get out of in a hurry. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:57:29 AM EDT
[#25]
Tagski
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:59:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Time to get rid of rulers and rule yourselves ivan The Russians are comforted by dictators. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 12:03:31 PM EDT
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MAJ Burton was a pathological liar but I get the gist of the procurement system.
I don’t think you’d need ALL of those features but the ability to find and engage targets without being jammed or located by commo guys attached to artillery battalions is important no? Whether you’re using a wired device, directional radio or an autonomous targeting program. As is the ability to engage in the dark, fog and rain. BONUS does it by not loitering or navigating, ISR drones have fancy radios, missiles can have wires, etc. I got a secondhand and sanitized variation of the Russian ELINT capabilities brief, the short version was if you brought your cell phone or key your less than top notch radio repeatedly they know where you are for tens of kilometers. Is that not correct? My comment about autonomous targeting was always in the context of a near peer or peer engagement. Because at a minimum you’re going to need thermal or a hell of a low light camera, and inertial navigation or terrain mapping navigation or some delivery method like rockets, shells, or I guess a timer or tripwire but victim activated things are problematic…I digress. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 12:11:53 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shoot, I’d be satisfied with a Gustav. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I want a javelin Shoot, I’d be satisfied with a Gustav. I'd be fine with a few of these. 
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Posted: 1/20/2022 12:18:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck Putin and Russia too, but where is he really wrong outside of your assumption he likes Russia/Putin? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, USA very bad. All hail Father Putin and motherland, am I right comrade? Fuck Putin and Russia too, but where is he really wrong outside of your assumption he likes Russia/Putin? I see you didn't read the rest of the thread before you replied. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 12:27:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be fine with a few of these. https://i0.wp.com/www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/russian-with-panzerfaust.jpg?resize=1024%2C713&ssl=1 Well, we do have a member that makes those. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 12:35:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks fun to get out of in a hurry. something to hold onto when the turret pops off. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 12:37:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have not read the entire thread yet, just discovered it. Why is she boiling a slice of pizza ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just be careful on who you support. Not sure Ukraine is all that great. I mean, America is now the baddie. Those countries who have declared war on their own citizens (UK, Austrailia, Canada, USA, etc). Certainly all of these countries that I just mentioned have been co-opted by the globalists. Are NATO the good guys anymore? What kind of dealings went on with the Biden family and Ukraine. Remember the color revolution that happened in Ukraine? The globalists took that place over. It is Russia who refuses to bend the knee to Klaus Schwabe and the WEF. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/87826/6000D1D5-1914-44F9-851E-F9D34C9CC254-2189765.jpg Have not read the entire thread yet, just discovered it. Why is she boiling a slice of pizza ? I assume it's because she's totally a real American person, definitely neither foreign nor a robot. Regular Americans boil pizza with a bag of potatoes on the counter next to their giant container of salt. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 12:53:06 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, your that guy. Years ago we had to troubleshoot a system for the soldiers in the field complaining the night vision equipment was not working. Once we explained that they probably just needed new batteries all was well. I could hear gunfire in the background over the phone.Have you tried turning it off...waiting 30 seconds and turning it back on?
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Posted: 1/20/2022 1:29:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MAJ Burton was a pathological liar but I get the gist of the procurement system. I don’t think you’d need ALL of those features but the ability to find and engage targets without being jammed or located by commo guys attached to artillery battalions is important no? Whether you’re using a wired device, directional radio or an autonomous targeting program. As is the ability to engage in the dark, fog and rain. BONUS does it by not loitering or navigating, ISR drones have fancy radios, missiles can have wires, etc. I got a secondhand and sanitized variation of the Russian ELINT capabilities brief, the short version was if you brought your cell phone or key your less than top notch radio repeatedly they know where you are for tens of kilometers. Is that not correct? My comment about autonomous targeting was always in the context of a near peer or peer engagement. Because at a minimum you’re going to need thermal or a hell of a low light camera, and inertial navigation or terrain mapping navigation or some delivery method like rockets, shells, or I guess a timer or tripwire but victim activated things are problematic…I digress. You don't need any of that stuff to accomplish high Pk on near peer hard targets, with a completely autonomous system. TTPs and MP is a thing. Let me try a different tactic... Why would I ever need a radio, when I already have JUMPS and a signature database? Why would I ever need a wire on an AUTONOMOUS system? Why do I need IR when I can fuse the inputs of a near IR EO with a magnetometer and the aforementioned jumps and signature database? Why do I need GPS when DTED exists and tercom/imnav has been a thing since before I was born? Not to mention mems imus can be had for pocket change. My POV on this is coming from being the Sensors and AI SME for ~50 programs in a $1/4 trillion portfolio (eta to clarify- technically not one portfolio as it Spans multiple PEOs). I'm quite literally typing these replies during the bio breaks at the SETR event I'm supporting for a 2 billion dollar 804 program. You think Col. Burton was a pathological liar? That's certainly an interesting take... |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 1:35:38 PM EDT
[#35]
I know you’re an SME that’s why I’m asking questions.
What’s the cheapest system you can build that can blow up at least medium armor in the Moscow Military Division with its electronics etc., day and night? Let you set the requirements. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 1:41:06 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Do you have time to take a brief survey regarding your customer service experience?" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol, your that guy. Years ago we had to troubleshoot a system for the soldiers in the field complaining the night vision equipment was not working. Once we explained that they probably just needed new batteries all was well. I could hear gunfire in the background over the phone.Lol, the best was when stuff came in for warranty repair and it had bullet holes in it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 1:57:06 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like America isn't ready for future conflicts going by what's being tested and used over there. Based on what? |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 1:57:37 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There have been several conflicts in the last few years in Asia that seriously cast into doubt the relevancy of current doctrine and capabilities.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like America isn't ready for future conflicts going by what's being tested and used over there. There have been several conflicts in the last few years in Asia that seriously cast into doubt the relevancy of current doctrine and capabilities.. Which ones are you referring to? |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 1:58:47 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Drone swarms" A shit ton of cheap guided anti-armor munitions. Reactive armor is only effective when it goes off, trigger it, then hit the target again and again after that and you only defended against the first attack. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How so? I agree but I suspect for different reasons. "Drone swarms" A shit ton of cheap guided anti-armor munitions. Reactive armor is only effective when it goes off, trigger it, then hit the target again and again after that and you only defended against the first attack. You don’t think the US does not have significant counter-drone capabilities? |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 1:59:55 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are "jammer proof" drones, in that no one is controlling them, so there is no signal to jam. They get programmed to go to a specific grid, upon reaching which they start actively looking for a target. Small highly lethal smart drones are reality at this point, albeit not the most common on the battlefield. They can jam the gps signal. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 2:03:14 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think Col. Burton was a pathological liar? That's certainly an interesting take... Apologies for calling him a Major but yes. His criticisms of the Bradley weren’t borne out in service and the positions the Army took that he took issue with were far more reasonable than alleged. But hey he got a book and a movie out of it. Probably some speaking engagements too. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 2:08:13 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know you’re an SME that’s why I’m asking questions. What’s the cheapest system you can build that can blow up at least medium armor in the Moscow Military Division with its electronics etc., day and night? Let you set the requirements. Sorry bout that. It's GD so I always baseline assume everyone replying to me is shit posting. So that always colors my responses. I'll dial down my being a dick factor. We'll assume NRE/Qual isn't being accounted for. Throw some folding wings on a hydra like frame, HEAT fill, cheapo microbolometer up front, simple crush fusing. Cots IMU/GPS are in the noise for cost. Signatures and gross target area via field load. Fuck up light armor day or night. Easily 25k all day long. Could be done even less, but I'm assuming an existing cots slap together. The armor target set is the cost driver here. I already know for a fact I can do the same with soft targets for under 1k. *Note, gps isn't needed. Just a nicety for initial nav. I'm assuming a range of the above at ~10 miles. You'll be in the seeker basket so quickly and close loop with the seeker/IMU so you would effectively ignore gps after a second or two. Yes, the mil actually does stuff like this all the time for (j)uons. Doesn't make the news because it's not some huge multimillion/billion dollar program and the small quantities are immediately all used up. Also, there is no money in it so not exactly a big driver for the primes to get after it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 2:11:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jen Psaki (WH press secretary) one week denying false flags exist and now saying Russia is going to do a false flag. Do we believe anything coming from the WH at this point? The whole Obiden admin's boogieman is Russia. What denial of false flags did Psaki make? |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 2:14:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They can jam the gps signal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are "jammer proof" drones, in that no one is controlling them, so there is no signal to jam. They get programmed to go to a specific grid, upon reaching which they start actively looking for a target. Small highly lethal smart drones are reality at this point, albeit not the most common on the battlefield. They can jam the gps signal. Russia has quite the experience with GPS jammers recently in Syria. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 2:16:23 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In America, wrong is right- up is down- bad is good. Our government is corrupt to the core because they have been taken over by the globalists. How do you guys not see this? We have a sitting president who is illegitimate and stole the election, nobody voted for him. We have sitting congressmen and senate who are worth millions yet only make like $100k/year. Parts of NY, CA, IL, ect are being turned into dumpsters and the people that live in those places keep voting those people in? Yeah BS. AGs set up a revolving door for career criminals to start a culture war. Face it, America has been co-opted. It is only going to get worse as CIA and FBI and justice systems turn to wokeness and CRT (as evidenced in their job adverts). Until 2020 gets fixed, there is no future. Alex Jones just threw in the towel and said it is over for America (and he has been fighting the globalists for his whole career). Putin is the only one spewing sense in this f***ed up world. Edit: Adding the American government hates you and has declared war on you. You are deemed a domestic terrorist I hope you get your talking points electronically so you can cut and paste. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 2:17:08 PM EDT
[#46]
I made a post 2 years ago about my cousin who was working at an American embassy in China when fucking covid broke out, then didn't get ass out of there when she had the chance.
Guess where the fuck she is now? If you're new at the state department, they obviously send you to the shit posts. She bought a beater car. Apparently, there's not a concrete plan in place for them to evacuate. If there's an invasion, her plan is to jump in her car with some of her coworkers and drive to the Polish border and attempt to cross. Anything of personal value she's already mailed back home. I mean what could go wrong? Jesus fucking Christ, can you imagine what the Polish border is going to look like the second Russian tanks roll into Ukraine? |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 2:21:29 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What he’s saying is true. Apparently you haven’t done much reading on Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum. It’s a grand plan to reset the world. Hence Biden’s Build Back Better slogan. A pandemic was mentioned as one key to putting the plan in motion. Sounds tinfoily but look at how western countries like Australia are treating their citizens and destroying their economies and it becomes much more clear. There’s a lot of pieces in play in the world besides picking sides between Russia and Ukraine. You have the new Soviet Union invading a sovereign country just because they want to gravitate towards the west. Ukraine is an incredibly corrupt country but Russia has a master’s degree in corruption. It is kind of easy to pick sides in this one. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 2:28:59 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, the mil actually does stuff like this all the time for (j)uons. Doesn't make the news because it's not some huge multimillion/billion dollar program and the small quantities are immediately all used up. Also, there is no money in it so not exactly a big driver for the primes to get after it. How do we counter it? |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 2:36:49 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry bout that. It's GD so I always baseline assume everyone replying to me is shit posting. So that always colors my responses. I'll dial down my being a dick factor. We'll assume NRE/Qual isn't being accounted for. Throw some folding wings on a hydra like frame, HEAT fill, cheapo microbolometer up front, simple crush fusing. Cots IMU/GPS are in the noise for cost. Signatures and gross target area via field load. Fuck up light armor day or night. Easily 25k all day long. Could be done even less, but I'm assuming an existing cots slap together. The armor target set is the cost driver here. I already know for a fact I can do the same with soft targets for under 1k. *Note, gps isn't needed. Just a nicety for initial nav. I'm assuming a range of the above at ~10 miles. You'll be in the seeker basket so quickly and close loop with the seeker/IMU so you would effectively ignore gps after a second or two. Yes, the mil actually does stuff like this all the time for (j)uons. Doesn't make the news because it's not some huge multimillion/billion dollar program and the small quantities are immediately all used up. Also, there is no money in it so not exactly a big driver for the primes to get after it. What is the cost difference between a system that can operate against a peer without the operator receiving counter-battery fire and one that needs to be used in COIN or insurgency? How do you do the anti-personnel units? |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 2:36:56 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My business is buying and selling Ukrainian gear. Lots of good companies popped up in Ukraine to provide gear to the military. M-Tac makes some great stuff. P1G-TAC also has some cool gear. Just about everything I wear in these freezing temperatures is from Ukraine. There are surplus stores in most larger shopping malls and cities. Most will deliver at no cost to the closest Nova Poshta (New Post) when purchasing online. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20220119_130336_2_jpg-2245688.JPG |
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