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Posted: 3/9/2020 8:35:20 PM EST

Remember the rumors of a little Focus/Transit Connect related pickup?

It sounds like it's confirmed for production, and it was shown to US dealers.

COO Jim Farley and other executives showed off the still-unnamed pickup to roughly 100 of its highest-volume retailers at a multiday event in Tucson last month, according to some who attended. Ford has indicated to retailers the vehicle will be priced under $20,000, dealers told Automotive News, making it roughly $5,000 less expensive than the base version of the Ranger midsize pickup. One dealer said the sides of the vehicle resembled that of the original Ranger.

The small pickup, codenamed P758, is expected to be built at Ford’s plant in Hermosillo, Mexico, and have an annual volume of more than 100,000, suppliers have been told.

https://jalopnik.com/new-compact-ford-pickup-will-start-under-20-000-repor-1842219589

The Blue Oval predicts it will sell about 100,000 units annually starting in late 2021, though the United States won't be its only market. Canada will get it, too, and many Latin American markets have a healthy appetite for small trucks. Its more-city-friendly-than-a-Ranger, car-like dimensions could earn it a trip across the pond, too.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/03/09/ford-small-pickup-focus-based/

Coming soon to an auto parts delivery guy near you.

Posted: 3/9/2020 8:35:42 PM EST

[#1]

Ok.

Posted: 3/9/2020 8:39:35 PM EST

[#2]

I saw this on the way home today. Mexican Ram

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Posted: 3/9/2020 8:41:19 PM EST

[#3]

Cool. With rebates might get down to 17-18k.

This truck market needs some low prices entries.

Posted: 3/9/2020 8:42:29 PM EST

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would be nice if it was front wheel drive.

Posted: 3/9/2020 8:44:18 PM EST

[#5]

That’s something I might be interested in.

Posted: 3/9/2020 8:44:40 PM EST

[#6]

4x4 with EcoBoost? My father in law wants a small truck

Posted: 3/9/2020 8:44:46 PM EST

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Pretty much every manufacturer sells pickup variants of their small FWD sedans or vans down in MX.
I think it is cool, just wish they were RWD.

Posted: 3/9/2020 8:45:49 PM EST

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Down here Volkswagen sells a lot of these little "trucks". I forget which model they are based upon; but they seem to be very popular. If you are only hauling mulch on the weekends, it would do the job!

Accountant

Posted: 3/9/2020 8:47:08 PM EST

[#9]

Hershey Kisses

Posted: 3/9/2020 8:48:29 PM EST

[#10]

Not it

Posted: 3/9/2020 8:58:30 PM EST

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Cool. With rebates might get down to 17-18k.

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would be nice if it was front wheel drive.

You would lose payload and towing capability with front wheel drive. My Chevy S10 was a good little truck and could easily tow a 5'x8' cargo trailer with one full sized road bike or two dirt bikes.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:06:03 PM EST

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That's exactly the sort of thing it's intended to compete against.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:06:08 PM EST

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For under 20k? Not a chance.

If so, I would buy one the moment it hit the lot to run around my properties on. It would be the same price as a Kawasaki Mule but more flexible.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:07:55 PM EST

[#14]

It will not sell.

People say they want to buy it, but they won't.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:08:32 PM EST

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Cool. With rebates might get down to 17-18k.

This truck market needs some low prices entries.

would be nice if it was front wheel drive.

It's pretty much confirmed to be FWD. AWD is possibly an option.

Expect it to be this with a bed:

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:11:11 PM EST

[#16]

I might be interested. I live out in the country and this might be the perfect thing to do a trash run without firing up the Ram 3500 or good for a quick run into the city.

Might be too small though.

Also you can get a base model Ranger with rebates for under 20k as well.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:12:10 PM EST

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Consumers might not buy many.

But fleet managers are masturbating furiously at the thought of the TCO reduction from running something like this in their fleets instead of midsize or larger trucks.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:14:37 PM EST

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This, very much this.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:15:41 PM EST

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I’ll probably end up with at least a half dozen if priced properly.

I buy used f150s for all the things now. Because they’re cheap.

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I also have probably 30 sprinters now.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:15:52 PM EST

[#20]

Holy shit, it's the 1988 Ranger of the future.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:17:25 PM EST

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It will not sell.

People say they want to buy it, but they won't.

Consumers might not buy many.

But fleet managers are masturbating furiously at the thought of the TCO reduction from running something like this in their fleets instead of midsize or larger trucks.

It will be a niche rig for sure. The main thing that frustrates me with just about all these smaller trucks nowadays is that the beds are so short you can't even throw a dirtbike in them. I agree that for a fleet or parts runner rig these will be perfect.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:23:27 PM EST

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And how may fleet managers will want to eat a bullet because they sold their customers a truck that won't pack more than a couple of sacks of manure ?
Everybody wants the cheapest and smallest until reality dictates that a chevy spark will haul the same amount of shit that your toy looking truck will haul, at half the price.

Dodge tried it, Volkswagen tried it, Subaru tried it.

It did not work.
(if it did, you would see them all over the place)

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:23:28 PM EST

[#23]

This has my interest. Very curious to see what it looks like.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:25:13 PM EST

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So it comes pre riddled with cartel bullet holes from the factory?

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:27:00 PM EST

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So it comes pre riddled with cartel bullet holes from the factory?

That's raindrops you dolt

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:27:57 PM EST

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And how may fleet managers will want to eat a bullet because they sold their customers a truck that won't pack more than a couple of sacks of manure ?
Everybody wants the cheapest and smallest until reality dictates that a chevy spark will haul the same amount of shit that your toy looking truck will haul, at half the price.

Dodge tried it, Volkswagen tried it, Subaru tried it.

It did not work.
(if it did, you would see them all over the place)

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Consumers might not buy many.

But fleet managers are masturbating furiously at the thought of the TCO reduction from running something like this in their fleets instead of midsize or larger trucks.

And how may fleet managers will want to eat a bullet because they sold their customers a truck that won't pack more than a couple of sacks of manure ?
Everybody wants the cheapest and smallest until reality dictates that a chevy spark will haul the same amount of shit that your toy looking truck will haul, at half the price.

Dodge tried it, Volkswagen tried it, Subaru tried it.

It did not work.
(if it did, you would see them all over the place)

Fleet managers don’t sell trucks.

They buy trucks.

All the above companies you listed, don’t do real well in fleet sales. The exception being dodge as of recently (we’ll say post bankruptcy for sake of argument.)

VW and Subaru as a fleet vehicle? Lol. They’ve never had strong fleet sales period. Let alone inside tracks to major fleets. Let alone great service networks.

VW is trying at it again with their acquisition of Navistar. So we’ll see how that goes in the long term.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:29:55 PM EST

[#27]

I want something equivalent to a mid '90s Ranger in a bad way. Sure it should have air conditioning and power windows, but I don't need need nav or 28 buttons on the steering wheel. And make it affordable back to those prices which is right where they are pricing these. I will be going to get one asap.

You guys say small trucks won't sell but you have apparently forgotten how many rangers and s-10 trucks were on the road back then.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:33:48 PM EST

[#28]

They need to put the 2.7 Ecoboost in it.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:35:29 PM EST

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In the US, likely a flop. Overseas has potential.

I had a first generation Dakota, it was the optimum small pickup size IMHO. Big enough bed to be useful but small enough to not be a full-size, but not so small the cab was cramped like a mini truck.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:36:44 PM EST

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It would go well with my Toyota dually.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:36:57 PM EST

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Speed holes.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:37:01 PM EST

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If it was a Honda or Toyota....

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:39:02 PM EST

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Your wish has been granted.

It rides on a modified Focus platform. AWD is an option.

Built in Hermosillo!

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:45:57 PM EST

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Just like golf ball dimples.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:46:35 PM EST

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the Ranger got to big for 70 year old men.

Posted: 3/9/2020 9:48:42 PM EST

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It rides on a modified Focus platform. AWD is an option.

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Hopefully it rides on something other than the DCT transmission

Posted: 3/10/2020 1:37:13 AM EST

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I saw this on the way home today. Mexican Ram

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2500 & 3500 are also mexican RAMs

Plus the 1500 standard cab, but those were a lot harder to find vs the Ford and GM versions.

Posted: 3/10/2020 1:42:22 AM EST

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I've been one who has been predicting this for a few years, even before they confirmed the Ranger was coming back.

Fleets will buy the most, followed by people over 60. My 65 year old co-worker said she'd be interested when I asked her opinion last year.

Posted: 3/10/2020 1:50:59 AM EST

[#39]

This is definitely what I have been hoping for. Too bad I bought something last year.

Perhaps in two or three years I could find one on the used market.

Posted: 3/10/2020 1:56:25 AM EST

[#40]

I, for one, welcome our yute overlords.

Posted: 3/10/2020 2:28:10 AM EST

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Down here Volkswagen sells a lot of these little "trucks". I forget which model they are based upon; but they seem to be very popular. If you are only hauling mulch on the weekends, it would do the job!

https://www.volkswagen.com.ar/content/dam/vw-ngw/vw_pkw/importers/ar/models/saveiro_opti/VW-NGW-Headers-Internos-Saveiro01.jpg/_jcr_content/renditions/original.transform/medplus/img.jpg

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Couldn't pay me to drive them things. I had a VR6, biggest POS I ever owned.

Posted: 3/10/2020 2:45:01 AM EST

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Pest control companies and the sort will buy them, regular consumers won't in any meaningful number.

Posted: 3/10/2020 2:47:45 AM EST

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I want something equivalent to a mid '90s Ranger in a bad way. Sure it should have air conditioning and power windows, but I don't need need nav or 28 buttons on the steering wheel. And make it affordable back to those prices which is right where they are pricing these. I will be going to get one asap.

You guys say small trucks won't sell but you have apparently forgotten how many rangers and s-10 trucks were on the road back then.

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"Were on the road"

Ford and GM abandoned them because they weren't selling.

Posted: 3/10/2020 3:29:36 AM EST

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Two of the men in my family had Couriers in the 70s. Unremarkable in every way.

Posted: 3/10/2020 3:32:44 AM EST

[#45]

It might be interesting, if it can fit a dirt bike.

Posted: 3/10/2020 4:04:01 AM EST

[#46]

I loved my long bed 86 s 15 Jimmy.

I liked that weird 93 ranger. 4 cylinder - 8 spark plugs.

Price is right. Depends on the bed length options

Posted: 3/10/2020 4:08:18 AM EST

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Also not it.

Posted: 3/10/2020 4:34:03 AM EST

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I’m pretty sure that I saw one with manufacturer plates some time ago. It looked like a european model.

Posted: 3/10/2020 4:54:04 AM EST

[#49]

In 1990, I bought an early release '91 S10 work truck.

4 cylinder, 5 speed, 6 foot bed, standard cab, no radio. 2 wheel drive.

$6995.

I used to haul a ton of coal.

2 dirt bikes or 1 quad.

Pulled my 16ft. fishing boat.

I'd buy another in a heartbeat.

There IS a market.

Posted: 3/10/2020 5:20:08 AM EST

[#50]

You got your brodozers. Now we get homodozers.

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