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Posted: 3/11/2020 12:18:51 AM EST
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This. And I bet it will also be a standard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For under 20k? Not a chance. If so, I would buy one the moment it hit the lot to run around my properties on. It would be the same price as a Kawasaki Mule but more flexible. And I bet it will also be a standard. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 12:22:01 AM EST
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I doubt it but I guess it's possible. None of the vehicles it's supposedly based on have manuals. 
I bet it will have an option and all the Mexicans on the west coast will buy them out, since the toyota r22 market has dried out. And I will buy one if it under $20,000 in 4wd to use as my desert truck. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 12:35:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck storing a space taking eysesore like that. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 8:14:27 AM EST
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https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_1600/v1jole20ftyrnefyoanh.jpg I bet it will have an option and all the Mexicans on the west coast will buy them out, since the toyota r22 market has dried out. And I will buy one if it under $20,000 in 4wd to use as my desert truck. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 8:38:01 AM EST
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"Muh 8' plywood" As somebody who actually does work with their truck and has owned everything from regular cab long beds, extended cabs with 6.5' beds, crew cabs with 8' beds and my current crew cab with a 5.5' bed I know what I need and what works best for me better than you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Instead I see tons of people who claim to "need a truck" driving around in a huge vehicle with a crew cab and a 5' bed. As somebody who actually does work with their truck and has owned everything from regular cab long beds, extended cabs with 6.5' beds, crew cabs with 8' beds and my current crew cab with a 5.5' bed I know what I need and what works best for me better than you. We also have some crew cabs...with 8' beds because we do have to use them as work trucks. Often, as you point out, to haul some lumber because that is a real thing. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 8:39:50 AM EST
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https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_1600/v1jole20ftyrnefyoanh.jpg I bet it will have an option and all the Mexicans on the west coast will buy them out, since the toyota r22 market has dried out. And I will buy one if it under $20,000 in 4wd to use as my desert truck. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 8:44:20 AM EST
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{laughs in Rabbit}
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Posted: 3/11/2020 9:13:00 AM EST
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https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_1600/v1jole20ftyrnefyoanh.jpg I bet it will have an option and all the Mexicans on the west coast will buy them out, since the toyota r22 market has dried out. And I will buy one if it under $20,000 in 4wd to use as my desert truck. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 10:53:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And which magic second vehicle do you plan to buy that doesn't take space? |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 11:11:29 AM EST
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Actually it is for people who need a truck to do what a typical person needs to do from their home. I need to haul trash or brush or maybe some mulch from Lowes. I want to take a mountain bike to the trails or throw a kayak in the back. That is as much as 90% of the trucks on the road ever do. Instead I see tons of people who claim to "need a truck" driving around in a huge vehicle with a crew cab and a 5' bed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: This is not for people who need a truck. I see this as something for someone who wants a car with occasional truck ability. If you need a truck don't buy this. Someone like me will never buy a full size truck. I have been looking at something like a connect, Baja, or the like for a reasonable price. I like a normal sedan but every now and then I need space for furniture or an unusually large errand run. Instead I see tons of people who claim to "need a truck" driving around in a huge vehicle with a crew cab and a 5' bed. I've said it before and I'll say it again... the minitruck was great for what the average diy homeowner needed. Hauling a few odds and ends every once in a while that would be impractical in a brodozer and impossible in a sedan. We got upsold by the industry when they pushed quad cab brodozers. Incredibly upsold. The fact that bob the white collar suburbanite thinks he "needs" a CCSB on 39"ers is proof of marketing trumping critical thinking. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 11:25:43 AM EST
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Precisely this. I've said it before and I'll say it again... the minitruck was great for what the average diy homeowner needed. Hauling a few odds and ends every once in a while that would be impractical in a brodozer and impossible in a sedan. We got upsold by the industry when they pushed quad cab brodozers. Incredibly upsold. The fact that bob the white collar suburbanite thinks he "needs" a CCSB on 39"ers is proof of marketing trumping critical thinking. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: This is not for people who need a truck. I see this as something for someone who wants a car with occasional truck ability. If you need a truck don't buy this. Someone like me will never buy a full size truck. I have been looking at something like a connect, Baja, or the like for a reasonable price. I like a normal sedan but every now and then I need space for furniture or an unusually large errand run. Instead I see tons of people who claim to "need a truck" driving around in a huge vehicle with a crew cab and a 5' bed. I've said it before and I'll say it again... the minitruck was great for what the average diy homeowner needed. Hauling a few odds and ends every once in a while that would be impractical in a brodozer and impossible in a sedan. We got upsold by the industry when they pushed quad cab brodozers. Incredibly upsold. The fact that bob the white collar suburbanite thinks he "needs" a CCSB on 39"ers is proof of marketing trumping critical thinking. For most consumers, it doesn’t make sense to buy a sedan/SUV and one of these. The math doesn’t work out, and parking is a problem. People just don’t have much practical use for two-seater vehicles. The standard CCSB pickup does almost everything. I have adult passengers in the back seat of mine frequently, and the bed gets used every week from the start of spring until the end of fall. And before you bring up the midsizers, all of them have shitty back seats that aren’t appropriate for adults except the Ridgeline, and it’s an expensive luxury product. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 11:56:41 AM EST
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I don’t want a back seat. I want a useful little truck that costs less than a side by side.
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Posted: 3/11/2020 12:14:05 PM EST
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I doubt it but I guess it's possible. None of the vehicles it's supposedly based on have manuals. Various peeps have done some photo assays. Length and WB seems to be approximately the current Transit Connect LWB - @ 185-190 inches, WB @ 120. Likely engines 1.5/2.0 Eco's maybe a 2.0 GDI or 2.5 Duratecs. Unsure if they'll support on the C2. Supposedly various beds/cab configurations. Bed could easily match the current Rangers longer 72x44 - the current Connect LWB interior is 87x48 Very much doubt US market see's a manual. The pitch was it fills a price point and need. Sub Connect pricing - which currently is $25,570- 2.0L XL Regular, 2.5 is slightly more. If Ford lines it in below $20k, they'll have a hit. Reports are it follows very close to the original Ranger in cues - meaning its readily recognizable as a truck and not so much a car front grafted on a bed. I'm interested to see if they crease or otherwise separate the bed transition. No purpose, but traditional styling will likely be well received in this segment. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 12:23:43 PM EST
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hopefully there's an ST version
if not then i will make it into an ST LS swap though |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 2:39:36 PM EST
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I buy stripped F150's to use as escort vehicles when I'm delivering wide loads
These may be a decent replacement |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 2:41:54 PM EST
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Reports are it follows very close to the original Ranger in cues - meaning its readily recognizable as a truck and not so much a car front grafted on a bed. I'm interested to see if they crease or otherwise separate the bed transition. No purpose, but traditional styling will likely be well received in this segment. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 6:18:14 PM EST
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I kind of like the mini Ranchero/El Camino look Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reports are it follows very close to the original Ranger in cues - meaning its readily recognizable as a truck and not so much a car front grafted on a bed. I'm interested to see if they crease or otherwise separate the bed transition. No purpose, but traditional styling will likely be well received in this segment. To combat, tie it stylistically to your truck lines. If it looks like a truck, it more likely to be accepted. So think more Ford SA Escort Bantam, or perhaps more angular Ford Brasil final Courier. Expect a sharp vertical rear window, square bed, angular sheet metal. Not so much Ramcharger or integrated car-like VW Saviero or Fiat Strada - like these I shot almost decade ago - not a new idea.  Attached File Attached FileIve seen renders like this  Attached FileBased on what some attendees have said, dont think thats whats been described, even if many dealers arent the most reliable descriptors, or the route Ford would go. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 7:04:31 PM EST
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Australia gets all the cool shit:
   
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Posted: 3/11/2020 7:27:37 PM EST
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Australia https://gomotors.net/pics/Ford/ford-falcon-xr6-turbo-ute-fg-02.jpg?i https://www.justcars.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_item/public/ad-assets/739231de-2b28-4682-b219-3e43bb0bcc73-xlg/739231de-2b28-4682-b219-3e43bb0bcc73-xlg.jpg https://gasers.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/hoden-ute-green.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dc/b8/6c/dcb86c1a070b41b8b1cf29b0872496ba.jpg |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 7:49:36 PM EST
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Holy shit, it's the 1988 Ranger of the future. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 7:57:02 PM EST
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And that is what GD said about the new Samson Ruger mini-14 folding stock, which is now back-ordered 2-3 months or longer... |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 8:01:33 PM EST
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A FWD pick up? Huh
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Posted: 3/11/2020 8:02:30 PM EST
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I saw this on the way home today. Mexican Ram https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220924/C2BABF66-9FB6-4E45-B4F1-C0D3FBB45681_jpe-1309186.JPG 
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Posted: 3/11/2020 8:23:02 PM EST
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If I was in the market for a truck I would.
Needs a lift and more bigger tires. |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 8:28:10 PM EST
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If I was in the market for a truck I would. Needs a lift and more bigger tires. |
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Posted: 3/12/2020 6:51:32 AM EST
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For under 20k? Not a chance. If so, I would buy one the moment it hit the lot to run around my properties on. It would be the same price as a Kawasaki Mule but more flexible. |
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Posted: 3/12/2020 6:52:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Consumers might not buy many. But fleet managers are masturbating furiously at the thought of the TCO reduction from running something like this in their fleets instead of midsize or larger trucks. |
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Posted: 3/12/2020 7:07:59 AM EST
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showed to dealers? |
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Posted: 3/12/2020 7:54:15 AM EST
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You need a Roxor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For under 20k? Not a chance. If so, I would buy one the moment it hit the lot to run around my properties on. It would be the same price as a Kawasaki Mule but more flexible. I'm not holding my breath tho. |
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Posted: 3/12/2020 3:30:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Precisely this. I've said it before and I'll say it again... the minitruck was great for what the average diy homeowner needed. Hauling a few odds and ends every once in a while that would be impractical in a brodozer and impossible in a sedan. We got upsold by the industry when they pushed quad cab brodozers. Incredibly upsold. The fact that bob the white collar suburbanite thinks he "needs" a CCSB on 39"ers is proof of marketing trumping critical thinking. I've wanted something like that for years. I don't need a brodozer. Heck, I tried to get in the bed of a full size pickup a couple of weeks ago that had its tailgate down, and I couldn't do so - it was just too high! With a long commute, I need something good on gas, and the current Tacoma/Ranger/et al, don't have the gas mileage I need. They also are more than I want to spend on a vehicle. I also rarely have a passenger, maybe my son a few times a month, but that's it, so a standard cab or extended cab with a little space would work fine. All I would want is A/C and cruise control. No power windows or doors. No 4x4. The only thing that would keep me from buying one would be that its a Ford. The bad experience I had with our Explorer was enough to sour me on anything made by Ford. |
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