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Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:34:32 PM EST
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I know Sam went somewhere but I couldn't hear where? Where did he say him and Gilly were going?
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:34:40 PM EST
[#2]
So Jon gives Gilly a hug and gives her a goodbye after maybe saying 3 sentences to her the entire series, but Jon can't even be bothered to give Ghost a pat on the head before he leaves him forever?

Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:36:01 PM EST
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Wherever whores go.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:36:35 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:39:23 PM EST
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The one question I have......when the fuck did that crossbow become pump action??????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoNv6yOSCQ

What the fuck.

Oh, and everyfuckingthing else.

Deforestation at KL is a bitch
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The show has gotten to the point where something like that is barely even a blip on the "bad writing" radar.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:39:45 PM EST
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Yeah, it's like the last week of high school for seniors who already got into college.  Everyone has just hit "fuck it."
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Probably still one of my favorite weeks.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:41:59 PM EST
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No spoilers in this thread, even hidden by the tags. Yes I know that is what the spoiler tag is supposed to be for, but they're becoming a disruption to the thread.
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That's real retarded, sir.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:43:14 PM EST
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The show has gotten to the point where something like that is barely even a blip on the "bad writing" radar.
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Jaime never strangled his cousin, he bashed his cousin's head in.

He strangled the guard.

So, yeah.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:47:11 PM EST
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The show has gotten to the point where something like that is barely even a blip on the "bad writing" radar.
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The one question I have......when the fuck did that crossbow become pump action??????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoNv6yOSCQ

What the fuck.

Oh, and everyfuckingthing else.

Deforestation at KL is a bitch
The show has gotten to the point where something like that is barely even a blip on the "bad writing" radar.
At this point, theres no need to pick apart individual acts of shit writing.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:48:55 PM EST
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That would have been more like it.

He had that kind of cocky confidence and wit, even when he was talking about serious matters.  Coming in with a loaded crossbow and dealing with Tyrion and Jamie the way he did seemed out of character.
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You’re right. It was out of character. “Give me a castle or I’ll fucking kill you, and enjoy the bloody nose!”. It was weird and it was rushed, like all things this season.

We had this:

"Don't get killed." Game of Thrones quote S02E09 Bronn
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:52:42 PM EST
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Thank you to the mods for cleaning up the spoiler discussion. I want to apologize for failing to edit them in my quoted post. The last time I posted about spoilers, someone thought I should be more specific in what I was calling out as being problematic. So this time I thought quoting the post would be the best way to specify what I thought was an issue.

Now hopefully we can go forward with the season and limit our being disappointed with the new story to Sunday nights at 8 together.

It has been interesting in here how even getting what we “want” with Dany being shown in a light that isn’t all favorable, there is still considerable disappointment in how clumsily it is being done. I think that goes to show how it isn’t about liking this character or not. It is about a story that follows the characters and the choices those characters would “really” make and the actions they would “really” be able to take.

Character behaving the way they are supposed to is what had made this series great. It is disappointing to see it ending storylines while failing to match the characters as well as has been done in the past. Especially with so many of those failing being for the sake of “subverted expectations” or pure shock value.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:53:11 PM EST
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I know Sam went somewhere but I couldn't hear where? Where did he say him and Gilly were going?
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I think he was going home since his Dad and brother Dickwad got reduced to ashes, it's his place now.....I wonder if he retrieved that big-ass sword of his?
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:56:04 PM EST
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Let's try this again.

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Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:58:12 PM EST
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The one question I have......when the fuck did that crossbow become pump action??????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoNv6yOSCQ

What the fuck.

Oh, and everyfuckingthing else.

Deforestation at KL is a bitch
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Good find, but stuff like that doesn't bother me.  It's a television show, which doesn't have a movie sized budget.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:58:27 PM EST
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I think he was going home since his Dad and brother Dickwad got reduced to ashes, it's his place now.....I wonder if he retrieved that big-ass sword of his?
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I know Sam went somewhere but I couldn't hear where? Where did he say him and Gilly were going?
I think he was going home since his Dad and brother Dickwad got reduced to ashes, it's his place now.....I wonder if he retrieved that big-ass sword of his?
Yeah, it doesn't look like anyone has recognized Sam as the new Lord Tarly. And he needs to wed Gilly so.he has an heir.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 9:58:31 PM EST
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None of this season makes any sense. At some point there had to have been a gut check where they said yea this sucks.

It feels so rushed now, they really needed 2 more seasons to do this right
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No way. If this season were 10 episodes instead of six, everybody would be bailing out at the halfway mark to get away from the crap writing. It would look awful to have the viewer numbers dropping dramatically over the final five episodes of the series until the last episode has a smaller audience than the first. HBO played this brilliantly, knowing what a turkey this season is. No matter how bad, just about every fan can stomach six episodes to get through the end.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 10:04:26 PM EST
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The one question I have......when the fuck did that crossbow become pump action??????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoNv6yOSCQ

What the fuck.
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What part of the operation of a crossbow confuses you?  The string is drawn back and a bolt is placed in a groove in the tiller. Exactly what Bronn did, but some of it was off screen.

Cocking aides do exactly what the name suggests.  Tyrion used one because he is a dwarf and has less strength than most men.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 10:11:33 PM EST
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What part of the operation of a crossbow confuses you?  The string is drawn back and a bolt is placed in a groove in the tiller. Exactly what Bronn did, but some of it was off screen.

Cocking aides do exactly what the name suggests.  Tyrion used one because he is a dwarf and has less strength than most men.
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I don't want to derail this into a discussion on medieval crossbow construction, so suffice it to say that the reload speed was ridiculous... much like almost every second of the last two episodes.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 10:16:24 PM EST
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Speaking of Tyrion; What has he done right in the past handful of seasons?

1) He runs Mareen while a Dany is away and the masters betray him and lay siege. He was in a shit position until Dany came saving with Dragon.

2) He did counsel staying in Slavers Bay but was rebuked.

3) His campaign for Westeros ended with their fleet getting knocked off with Dorne and Tyrells being destroyed. A miserable failure.

4) He came up with the truce with Cersei. She betrayed him and it made him look terrible again.

5) I can only surmise it was his embarrassing defense plan of Winterfell that caused half their men to be slaughtered. We won’t replay the embarrassing escapades of that battle...**cough** suicide calvary **cough**. If not his plan, then it was criminal negligence for letting it happen.

6) And again, in this past episode, his campaign for Westeros ended in failure again. Lost another fleet and now a dragon is dead.

7) His parley with Cersei to surrender the capital, and release the friend, ended in absolute failure.

Everything he has done with Dany has failed. I would’ve got rid of him awhile ago if I was Dany.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 10:42:06 PM EST
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That would have been more like it.

He had that kind of cocky confidence and wit, even when he was talking about serious matters.  Coming in with a loaded crossbow and dealing with Tyrion and Jamie the way he did seemed out of character.
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Not really. He's never hesitated to talk shit to either one before. Now he's talking shit and has the high ground in their negotiations.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 10:45:52 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/6/2019 10:49:15 PM EST
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What episode is there a toyota truck in?
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 10:55:07 PM EST
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What part of the operation of a crossbow confuses you?  The string is drawn back and a bolt is placed in a groove in the tiller. Exactly what Bronn did, but some of it was off screen.

Cocking aides do exactly what the name suggests.  Tyrion used one because he is a dwarf and has less strength than most men.
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The one question I have......when the fuck did that crossbow become pump action??????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoNv6yOSCQ

What the fuck.
What part of the operation of a crossbow confuses you?  The string is drawn back and a bolt is placed in a groove in the tiller. Exactly what Bronn did, but some of it was off screen.

Cocking aides do exactly what the name suggests.  Tyrion used one because he is a dwarf and has less strength than most men.
A 3 second reload?

Link Posted: 5/6/2019 10:57:36 PM EST
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Not really. He's never hesitated to talk shit to either one before. Now he's talking shit and has the high ground in their negotiations.
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He's always had the high ground negotiating with them.  He also risked his ass to save Jamie from the dragon and arranging the meeting between Jamie and Tyrion under Kings Landing.  The way he acted last episode was very of character and very stupid on his part.  Jamie and Tyrion could just hire another sellsword or a team of them to take him out for far cheaper than High Garden.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 10:59:39 PM EST
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The truck was just in the behind the scenes featurette, it wasn't in the actual episode.

Link Posted: 5/6/2019 11:01:49 PM EST
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Wonder if they will go full retard and make Cersei the new Night Queen after Qyburn stick a piece of dragonglass in her heart after she is killed off.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 11:06:40 PM EST
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Bran is the only one who saw that and The Children did some spell on it before stick it in.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 11:06:56 PM EST
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His last name is Miculek.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 11:46:12 PM EST
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He says it pretty directly, he's been traipsing around Westeros for who knows how long at the behest of one Lannister or another, and they still haven't paid him, and he's tired of their shit and wants them to pay the fuck up.
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Everything Bronn has ever done has been for money, he told Tyrion as much when he agreed to fight for him and multiple times thereafter -- on the show and in the books.  Bronn hasn't changed a bit.
I get what you are saying, and I think my response above pretty much agrees with your overall characterization of Bronn.   All I can say, is he felt off.  His wit was gone.  Something was off in the way he carried himself.  
He says it pretty directly, he's been traipsing around Westeros for who knows how long at the behest of one Lannister or another, and they still haven't paid him, and he's tired of their shit and wants them to pay the fuck up.
I guess a Lannister doesn't always pay his debts.

Just because someone says something in the show or it's a popular saying, it doesn't make it true.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 11:52:16 PM EST
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Would've gone into creep mode for Sophie Turner.
Link Posted: 5/6/2019 11:52:25 PM EST
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His last name is Miculek.
He's good with crossbows.  He reloaded the scorpion in the Battle of the Goldroad in about 8 or 9 seconds.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 12:05:47 AM EST
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Link Posted: 5/7/2019 12:11:56 AM EST
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Sophie Turner is a very attractive young woman.  Maisie Williams is just sort of cute.  I think Sophie Turner will be attractive in her 30's where Williams will lose her cuteness.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 12:49:43 AM EST
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a theme in the books, from Lady Stoneheart maybe, that suggested that leaving their wolves behind and their Stark'ness, was a fatal error for the Stark men?

I know Jon technically isn't a Stark and this isn'tthe books, but the Starks are his real family.

Rewatching ep4, that scene where Jon left Ghost seemed ominous watching it the second time
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 1:51:22 AM EST
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a theme in the books, from Lady Stoneheart maybe, that suggested that leaving their wolves behind and their Stark'ness, was a fatal error for the Stark men?

I know Jon technically isn't a Stark and this isn'tthe books, but the Starks are his real family.

Rewatching ep4, that scene where Jon left Ghost seemed ominous watching it the second time
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In the show they had no such function.  At first they were just going going to kill the pups.  It might have been more significant in the books, but I wouldn't know.

Oh, and Jon's mother was a Stark so wouldn't he still qualify as one?
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 2:17:06 AM EST
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I'm all caught up.

YOU GET A LOVE INTEREST
YOU GET A LOVE INTEREST
YOU GET A LOVE INTEREST
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YOU GET A LOVE INTEREST
#oprah

:-/

Jesus titty fucking christ.  Bring on the violence.  For fucks sake.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 2:37:07 AM EST
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Bran is the only one who saw that and The Children did some spell on it before stick it in.
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Wonder if they will go full retard and make Cersei the new Night Queen after Qyburn stick a piece of dragonglass in her heart after she is killed off.
Bran is the only one who saw that and The Children did some spell on it before stick it in.
My guess has always been that Daenerys was going to fill that role.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 2:44:17 AM EST
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George RR Martin asks Stephen King: "How do you write so Fast?!"
https://youtu.be/xR7XMkjDGw0

This is a great conversation between two writers about writing.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 2:49:33 AM EST
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Most of the more serious criticism I’ve come across about GOT has been from writers. They get hard core into structure, investing time and respecting their audience
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 3:45:54 AM EST
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No spoilers in this thread, even hidden by the tags. Yes I know that is what the spoiler tag is supposed to be for, but they're becoming a disruption to the thread.

If people want to discuss that kind of thing, they can start a new thread for that sole purpose.
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Let's try this again.

Discussing the content of the leaked spoilers in any way, is not allowed in this thread.
Wait, I thought I understood but maybe not. You're saying we can't discuss spoilers here at all, even if hidden in spoiler tags?
No spoilers in this thread, even hidden by the tags. Yes I know that is what the spoiler tag is supposed to be for, but they're becoming a disruption to the thread.

If people want to discuss that kind of thing, they can start a new thread for that sole purpose.
Ok, I suppose I missed that when I skipped some pages,  thanks.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 4:03:16 AM EST
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Thank you to the mods for cleaning up the spoiler discussion. I want to apologize for failing to edit them in my quoted post. The last time I posted about spoilers, someone thought I should be more specific in what I was calling out as being problematic. So this time I thought quoting the post would be the best way to specify what I thought was an issue.

Now hopefully we can go forward with the season and limit our being disappointed with the new story to Sunday nights at 8 together.

It has been interesting in here how even getting what we “want” with Dany being shown in a light that isn’t all favorable, there is still considerable disappointment in how clumsily it is being done. I think that goes to show how it isn’t about liking this character or not. It is about a story that follows the characters and the choices those characters would “really” make and the actions they would “really” be able to take.

Character behaving the way they are supposed to is what had made this series great. It is disappointing to see it ending storylines while failing to match the characters as well as has been done in the past. Especially with so many of those failing being for the sake of “subverted expectations” or pure shock value.
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I’ll add my apologies for not putting what I posted in tags.

Your post is spot on, and I think what the vast majority of folks are feeling. Many accusations pages back, when Arya killed the NK and not Jon, about how we were just whiny tits that didn’t see the value/appeal in it being Arya, of that some didn’t like Arya. All of which couldn’t be further from the truth. If I had to guess, I’d wager that Arya would probably poll in the top five of folks favorites here, it wasn’t that folks didn’t like Arya killing the NK because she was a girl, or that those complaining didn’t like her, it was, as you said, out of place, and done simply to subvert expectations, wasting the value of the story.

As has been stated many times, the fault lies with both GRRM and D&D. Had Martin finished the story before D&D got to this point we wouldn’t be here. If D&D had any sort of inkling of how the story should go we wouldn’t be here. As I stated myself a few pages back, they were essentially given carte blanche and this is the best they could do. The really sad part is, that not only have they royally fucked up GoT, they’ll be lauded by the danger hairs and SJWs for this screw up and handed more franchises/stories to fuck up.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 5:00:40 AM EST
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Link Posted: 5/7/2019 5:02:48 AM EST
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Link Posted: 5/7/2019 5:14:34 AM EST
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So Jon gives Gilly a hug and gives her a goodbye after maybe saying 3 sentences to her the entire series, but Jon can't even be bothered to give Ghost a pat on the head before he leaves him forever?

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Maybe she will have her baby stabbed out of her...like the Red Wedding.

SUBVERTED!
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 5:16:54 AM EST
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Speaking of Tyrion; What has he done right in the past handful of seasons?

1) He runs Mareen while a Dany is away and the masters betray him and lay siege. He was in a shit position until Dany came saving with Dragon.

2) He did counsel staying in Slavers Bay but was rebuked.

3) His campaign for Westeros ended with their fleet getting knocked off with Dorne and Tyrells being destroyed. A miserable failure.

4) He came up with the truce with Cersei. She betrayed him and it made him look terrible again.

5) I can only surmise it was his embarrassing defense plan of Winterfell that caused half their men to be slaughtered. We won’t replay the embarrassing escapades of that battle...**cough** suicide calvary **cough**. If not his plan, then it was criminal negligence for letting it happen.

6) And again, in this past episode, his campaign for Westeros ended in failure again. Lost another fleet and now a dragon is dead.

7) His parley with Cersei to surrender the capital, and release the friend, ended in absolute failure.

Everything he has done with Dany has failed. I would’ve got rid of him awhile ago if I was Dany.
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When D&D lost their source material, Tyrion was the hardest hit.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 5:47:10 AM EST
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His hit wasn’t nearly as bad as the one my expectations took.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 6:05:40 AM EST
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Hotpie starts a chain of fast food restaurants, franchises them and takes them public. He uses the funds to pay off the iron bank and then backs Gendry as king of the seven kingdoms.

/reddit/got
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 6:12:01 AM EST
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The one question I have......when the fuck did that crossbow become pump action??????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoNv6yOSCQ

What the fuck.
What part of the operation of a crossbow confuses you?  The string is drawn back and a bolt is placed in a groove in the tiller. Exactly what Bronn did, but some of it was off screen.

Cocking aides do exactly what the name suggests.  Tyrion used one because he is a dwarf and has less strength than most men.
A 3 second reload?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqgCikstkCk
I hated this scene. The only time Bronn has leverage over them is at this exact moment. Would people with as much power as Jaime and Tyrion really just honor this commitment out of fear that he may show back up randomly with a crossbow? Body guards are a thing.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 6:16:58 AM EST
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Speaking of Tyrion; What has he done right in the past handful of seasons?

1) He runs Mareen while a Dany is away and the masters betray him and lay siege. He was in a shit position until Dany came saving with Dragon.

2) He did counsel staying in Slavers Bay but was rebuked.

3) His campaign for Westeros ended with their fleet getting knocked off with Dorne and Tyrells being destroyed. A miserable failure.

4) He came up with the truce with Cersei. She betrayed him and it made him look terrible again.

5) I can only surmise it was his embarrassing defense plan of Winterfell that caused half their men to be slaughtered. We won’t replay the embarrassing escapades of that battle...**cough** suicide calvary **cough**. If not his plan, then it was criminal negligence for letting it happen.

6) And again, in this past episode, his campaign for Westeros ended in failure again. Lost another fleet and now a dragon is dead.

7) His parley with Cersei to surrender the capital, and release the friend, ended in absolute failure.

Everything he has done with Dany has failed. I would’ve got rid of him awhile ago if I was Dany.
When D&D lost their source material, Tyrion was the hardest hit.
I'm just glad Tywin died before they could ruin his character.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 6:19:05 AM EST
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a theme in the books, from Lady Stoneheart maybe, that suggested that leaving their wolves behind and their Stark'ness, was a fatal error for the Stark men?

I know Jon technically isn't a Stark and this isn'tthe books, but the Starks are his real family.

Rewatching ep4, that scene where Jon left Ghost seemed ominous watching it the second time
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Jon is a Stark.  His mother was Lyanna Stark...

The Ghost good bye scene sucked.  Not even a pet on the head?
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