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Posted: 5/7/2019 6:59:14 AM EST
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Dumb and Dumber explained it by saying they "forgot about the Iron Fleet." The most powerful naval force in the world, currently dedicated to destroying them, and they all just forgot it existed. Brilliant. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:06:26 AM EST
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I knew they were going to fuck it up I never thought it was going to be this badly.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:10:05 AM EST
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What part of the operation of a crossbow confuses you? The string is drawn back and a bolt is placed in a groove in the tiller. Exactly what Bronn did, but some of it was off screen. Cocking aides do exactly what the name suggests. Tyrion used one because he is a dwarf and has less strength than most men. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The one question I have......when the fuck did that crossbow become pump action??????  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoNv6yOSCQ
What the fuck. Cocking aides do exactly what the name suggests. Tyrion used one because he is a dwarf and has less strength than most men. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:40:25 AM EST
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The arrows went through full sized boats, what armor is going to stop that, and allow a dragon to fly. Holy shit, that was a dumb question, Magic, it's magic armor. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:40:38 AM EST
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Yeah, Joffrey killed the ginger beaver with it.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:47:13 AM EST
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No It's on season 8. You have seriously never heard of Game Of Thrones on HBO? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, like, is this some new show or something? It's on season 8. You have seriously never heard of Game Of Thrones on HBO? |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:55:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bran is the only one who saw that and The Children did some spell on it before stick it in. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:03:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hated this scene. The only time Bronn has leverage over them is at this exact moment. Would people with as much power as Jaime and Tyrion really just honor this commitment out of fear that he may show back up randomly with a crossbow? Body guards are a thing. Hell, he just showed up in their room at winterfell. What’s to stop him from doing that again wherever they are? |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:19:54 AM EST
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So Jon gives Gilly a hug and gives her a goodbye after maybe saying 3 sentences to her the entire series, but Jon can't even be bothered to give Ghost a pat on the head before he leaves him forever? https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/disappointed-head-shake-gif-8.gif |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:34:19 AM EST
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Yeah that was bull shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So Jon gives Gilly a hug and gives her a goodbye after maybe saying 3 sentences to her the entire series, but Jon can't even be bothered to give Ghost a pat on the head before he leaves him forever? https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/disappointed-head-shake-gif-8.gif And I would be good with this... |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:37:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ghost will be back, they didnt have the money for cgi... now that they are down to one dragon, Ghost and Nymeria can return, kill and eat Cersei for the revenge of Lady... |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:38:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ghost will be back, they didnt have the money for cgi... now that they are down to one dragon, Ghost and Nymeria can return, kill and eat Cersei for the revenge of Lady... And I would be good with this... |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:46:39 AM EST
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This. Jon didn't say goodbye because it wasn't goodbye... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:52:08 AM EST
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"Tormund hops a flight to the "true north" gathers up all the remaining wildings, hops another commercial flight with his crew in tow down to KL and saves the day? "
because in the end Jon says "screw this shit" and leaves everything behind to go live in the north? just my own theory. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:06:14 AM EST
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Heading into S8 there had only been one GoT episode to have an IMDB rating under 8.5/10 and that was the S5 episode ‘Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken’ at 8.1/10.
Here is S8 this far:  Attached FileFor comparison here is S4:  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:11:58 AM EST
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Bran is the only one who saw that and The Children did some spell on it before stick it in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wonder if they will go full retard and make Cersei the new Night Queen after Qyburn stick a piece of dragonglass in her heart after she is killed off. 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:15:43 AM EST
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When D&D lost their source material, Tyrion was the hardest hit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Speaking of Tyrion; What has he done right in the past handful of seasons? 1) He runs Mareen while a Dany is away and the masters betray him and lay siege. He was in a shit position until Dany came saving with Dragon. 2) He did counsel staying in Slavers Bay but was rebuked. 3) His campaign for Westeros ended with their fleet getting knocked off with Dorne and Tyrells being destroyed. A miserable failure. 4) He came up with the truce with Cersei. She betrayed him and it made him look terrible again. 5) I can only surmise it was his embarrassing defense plan of Winterfell that caused half their men to be slaughtered. We won’t replay the embarrassing escapades of that battle...**cough** suicide calvary **cough**. If not his plan, then it was criminal negligence for letting it happen. 6) And again, in this past episode, his campaign for Westeros ended in failure again. Lost another fleet and now a dragon is dead. 7) His parley with Cersei to surrender the capital, and release the friend, ended in absolute failure. Everything he has done with Dany has failed. I would’ve got rid of him awhile ago if I was Dany. 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:19:20 AM EST
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Didn't they say something to the effect of "if the iron fleet tries to bring in food we'll destroy them with the dragons" when literally everyone was in a room and they agreed to lay siege to King's Landing like 5 minutes before that scene. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumb and Dumber explained it by saying they "forgot about the Iron Fleet." The most powerful naval force in the world, currently dedicated to destroying them, and they all just forgot it existed. Brilliant. 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:24:23 AM EST
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This. Jon didn't say goodbye because it wasn't goodbye... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Ghost will be back, they didnt have the money for cgi... now that they are down to one dragon, Ghost and Nymeria can return, kill and eat Cersei for the revenge of Lady... And I would be good with this... I don't get why everyone is always so concerned with the lack of the wolves? Outside of maybe season 1 (even then they weren't featured THAT prominently), they have really been nothing but fringe background characters. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:24:53 AM EST
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I knew they were going to fuck it up I never thought it was going to be this badly. It’s like going into a football game expecting your team to lose a somewhat competitive game and at halftime they are losing 56-0. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:27:41 AM EST
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Did the dire wolves have a much larger role in the books? I don't get why everyone is always so concerned with the lack of the wolves? Outside of maybe season 1 (even then they weren't featured THAT prominently), they have really been nothing but fringe background characters. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Ghost will be back, they didnt have the money for cgi... now that they are down to one dragon, Ghost and Nymeria can return, kill and eat Cersei for the revenge of Lady... And I would be good with this... I don't get why everyone is always so concerned with the lack of the wolves? Outside of maybe season 1 (even then they weren't featured THAT prominently), they have really been nothing but fringe background characters. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:28:25 AM EST
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What if Qyburn is Bran from an alternate universe?
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Wonder if they will go full retard and make Cersei the new Night Queen after Qyburn stick a piece of dragonglass in her heart after she is killed off.
Subverted expectations! Time Traveling Fetus Theory  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:41:56 AM EST
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Jon kills Dany to fulfill his prophecy as Azor Ahai. He fights through to the throne room and kills Cersei. Lady Stoneheart comes out of the shadows, slits Jon's throat, and takes her seat on the Iron Throne. The "bittersweet ending" is that the Starks ultimately win.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:43:08 AM EST
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If there are other dragons, wouldn't Bran the incredible know about them? Couldn't he mind control them?
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:49:34 AM EST
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I was so out of touch with GOT, I thought they had finished the series when we started watching it. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:50:55 AM EST
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Until last year, my wife and I were "Never-Throners". We started watching the series, and ended binge watching straight through twice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Click To View Spoiler I feel for those that started 8 years ago This might be a kick in the balls |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:51:32 AM EST
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No spoilers in this thread, even hidden by the tags. Yes I know that is what the spoiler tag is supposed to be for, but they're becoming a disruption to the thread. If people want to discuss that kind of thing, they can start a new thread for that sole purpose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's try this again. Discussing the content of the leaked spoilers in any way, is not allowed in this thread. If people want to discuss that kind of thing, they can start a new thread for that sole purpose. 
Done deal. That thread is now here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-GOT-Season8-Rumors-spoilers-and-related-theories-thread/5-2218544/ |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:52:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is my favorite theory. And no, it's not really spoilers, at all. Time Traveling Fetus Theory https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/244342/links2_jpg-937371.JPG |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:53:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I started in January I feel for those that started 8 years ago This might be a kick in the balls |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:57:04 AM EST
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https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb5as0BXHE1qeixlc.gif Done deal. That thread is now here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-GOT-Season8-Rumors-spoilers-and-related-theories-thread/5-2218544/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's try this again. Discussing the content of the leaked spoilers in any way, is not allowed in this thread. If people want to discuss that kind of thing, they can start a new thread for that sole purpose. Done deal. That thread is now here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-GOT-Season8-Rumors-spoilers-and-related-theories-thread/5-2218544/ Can we get a SCOTUS decision on where they belong? |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:58:35 AM EST
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VA gunnut, that spoiler thread was locked and now put back into THIS one. Can we get a SCOTUS decision on where they belong? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's try this again. Discussing the content of the leaked spoilers in any way, is not allowed in this thread. If people want to discuss that kind of thing, they can start a new thread for that sole purpose. Done deal. That thread is now here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-GOT-Season8-Rumors-spoilers-and-related-theories-thread/5-2218544/ Can we get a SCOTUS decision on where they belong? |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:02:10 AM EST
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After a PM from fox news, it is unlocked.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:04:30 AM EST
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Let's try this again. Discussing the content of the leaked spoilers in any way, is not allowed in this thread. If people want to discuss that kind of thing, they can start a new thread for that sole purpose. Done deal. That thread is now here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-GOT-Season8-Rumors-spoilers-and-related-theories-thread/5-2218544/ Can we get a SCOTUS decision on where they belong? |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:09:11 AM EST
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a theme in the books, from Lady Stoneheart maybe, that suggested that leaving their wolves behind and their Stark'ness, was a fatal error for the Stark men? I know Jon technically isn't a Stark and this isn'tthe books, but the Starks are his real family. Rewatching ep4, that scene where Jon left Ghost seemed ominous watching it the second time When Jon leaves Ghost, Sam and Tormund are also there. It is symbolic of Jon leaving his whole past identity behind, being part of the Stark family, Night's Watch, and being friends and allies with the Wildings. Jon Snow's Identity and coming to grips with who he is, is a big part of his character arc. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:19:50 AM EST
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I thought Sansa got whores for the guys. She was watching them the whole time. She wanted to thank the hound.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:20:31 AM EST
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Good thing I skipped 25 pages of this thread
Fucking spoiler people are the worst. Like that fucktard who ruined Viserion dying 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:21:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, there is a strong theme of the relationship between the Stark children and their direwolves. When Jon leaves Ghost, Sam and Tormund are also there. It is symbolic of Jon leaving his whole past identity behind, being part of the Stark family, Night's Watch, and being friends and allies with the Wildings. Jon Snow's Identity and coming to grips with who he is, is a big part of his character arc. I know they grew close, but it was an accident that they got them. Was it different in the books? Where the Stark kids given wolves instead of just finding them? |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:27:08 AM EST
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This. It’s like going into a football game expecting your team to lose a somewhat competitive game and at halftime they are losing 56-0. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I knew they were going to fuck it up I never thought it was going to be this badly. It’s like going into a football game expecting your team to lose a somewhat competitive game and at halftime they are losing 56-0. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:29:45 AM EST
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The one question I have......when the fuck did that crossbow become pump action?????? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoNv6yOSCQ
What the fuck. Cocking aides do exactly what the name suggests. Tyrion used one because he is a dwarf and has less strength than most men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqgCikstkCkLook at the small thin bolts, that one couldn't have launched the thick heavy bolts one might expect to see. That one was a very fancy toy for fancy men (and women) to play with. It could still kill at close range, although it would take a well placed shot for one bolt to get it done (Tyrion had to shoot Tywin twice). So not totally unrealistic that someone with Bronn's strength and experience might have cocked the piece without the lever and slapped a bolt in place in the time implied. Also not realistic that someone like Bronn could easily score a fatal hit. Change my mind . . . |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:29:51 AM EST
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Yes, there is a strong theme of the relationship between the Stark children and their direwolves. When Jon leaves Ghost, Sam and Tormund are also there. It is symbolic of Jon leaving his whole past identity behind, being part of the Stark family, Night's Watch, and being friends and allies with the Wildings. Jon Snow's Identity and coming to grips with who he is, is a big part of his character arc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a theme in the books, from Lady Stoneheart maybe, that suggested that leaving their wolves behind and their Stark'ness, was a fatal error for the Stark men? I know Jon technically isn't a Stark and this isn'tthe books, but the Starks are his real family. Rewatching ep4, that scene where Jon left Ghost seemed ominous watching it the second time When Jon leaves Ghost, Sam and Tormund are also there. It is symbolic of Jon leaving his whole past identity behind, being part of the Stark family, Night's Watch, and being friends and allies with the Wildings. Jon Snow's Identity and coming to grips with who he is, is a big part of his character arc. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:32:03 AM EST
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He didn't use the cocking lever, and looking at that crossbow it would probably not have had nearly the draw weight of the larger ones actually used in battle. Look at the small thin bolts, that one couldn't have launched the thick heavy bolts one might expect to see. That one was a very fancy toy for fancy men (and women) to play with. It could still kill at close range, although it would take a well placed shot for one bolt to get it done (Tyrion had to shoot Tywin twice). So not totally unrealistic that someone with Bronn's strength and experience might have cocked the piece without the lever and slapped a bolt in place in the time implied. Also not realistic that someone like Bronn could easily score a fatal hit. Change my mind . . . |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:45:00 AM EST
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In the show it looked like a happy accident that they even got the wolves. I can't remember who found the dead bitch, but I remember they found the dead direwolf and then found her orphaned pups. Initially they were going to kill the pups, until Eddard was talked into letting the kids keep them, I think I remember Theon handing Jon his, and saying it was the runt of the litter, or a snow like he was, or something to that effect. I know they grew close, but it was an accident that they got them. Was it different in the books? Where the Stark kids given wolves instead of just finding them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:49:40 AM EST
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Yeah, Joffrey killed the ginger beaver with it. But in the earlier scene where he threatens her and makes her beat the other whore, it's a different, less ornate and much larger crossbow. That he cocks with a removable crank. So this one had to have appeared somewhere in between the time he discovers how much he likes abusing whores and the time where he actually starts killing them. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:49:58 AM EST
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Are you not
Episode 5 will be like the train wreck that you can't look away from. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:54:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your post is spot on, and I think what the vast majority of folks are feeling. Many accusations pages back, when Arya killed the NK and not Jon, about how we were just whiny tits that didn’t see the value/appeal in it being Arya, of that some didn’t like Arya. All of which couldn’t be further from the truth. If I had to guess, I’d wager that Arya would probably poll in the top five of folks favorites here, it wasn’t that folks didn’t like Arya killing the NK because she was a girl, or that those complaining didn’t like her, it was, as you said, out of place, and done simply to subvert expectations, wasting the value of the story. All the complaints could be applied to Tolkien if the Hobbit or Lotr were published today. Thorin's whole story revolved around defeating Smaug and getting back his kingdom. Bard Stole his kill. Thorin went through a lot of work and pain and suffering, he earned it. Bard had nothing to do with the story. He was introduced in the same chapter as he killed Smaug. He killed Smaug with a family heirloom weapon, oh wait Arya did the same thing. The whole story was Smaug was the big bad guy, how come defeating him wasn't the final battle and end of the story. JRRT is a shit writer!!! |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:57:34 AM EST
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I got to see the script for the final episode. I know who will shit on the iron throne.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:58:28 AM EST
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Yeah, it doesn't look like anyone has recognized Sam as the new Lord Tarly. And he needs to wed Gilly so.he has an heir. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 11:00:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bronn has proven that’s he’s resourceful throughout the series. Hell, he just showed up in their room at winterfell. What’s to stop him from doing that again wherever they are? Plot armor. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 11:00:47 AM EST
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I don't know what's worse, the season 8 writing or your same tired arguments over and over beating up on straw men to add to your air of superiority.
It was bad writing and you can't acknowledge that. Jon's been fighting the army of the dead for 70 episodes. He runs around uselessly the entire "Battle of Winterfell" episode. He lost his first love Ygritte and his life to bring the Wildlings south of the wall. Arya was on the other side of the world learning stealth and deception against human targets. Totally makes sense that she'd fly at the last moment and subvert everyone's expectations. Just like David Beninoff's wife subverted his expectations on their honeymoon by introducing him to her boyfriend. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 11:01:55 AM EST
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Didn't he give that up when he joined the Night Watch? Of course so did John Snow, so we'll see how that goes as the show continues. Jon was released from his oath when he was murdered and died. |
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