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Posted: 3/24/2019 3:49:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/24/2019 3:53:02 PM EDT
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She is ancient but looks young. Just what "magic" trick can you use to do that? Askin for a friend. 8nBAIT Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: BTW, Melisandre is a fraud. She comments that her spells work better at the wall -- but she's using tricks to make "magic" and has been for a long time. 8nBAIT |
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Posted: 3/24/2019 3:55:34 PM EDT
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i guess Thyros of Myr didn't repeatedly resurrect Beric Dondarrion either? The Lord of Light acting through his priests/priestesses Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Martin doesn't believe in magic or gods. There's some things going on for certain -- but things are probably not as they seem. BTW, Melisandre is a fraud. She comments that her spells work better at the wall -- but she's using tricks to make "magic" and has been for a long time. She may not have done so even in the show... The Lord of Light acting through his priests/priestesses You really need to pay more attention. Keep in mind that Martin has specifically he doesn’t believe in magic or gods at all. |
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Posted: 3/24/2019 4:05:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We don't even know if the lord of light exists. You really need to pay more attention. Keep in mind that Martin has specifically he doesn't believe in magic or gods at all. |
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Posted: 3/24/2019 4:23:34 PM EDT
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if it's not magic or divine action, what power is allowing followers of R'hllor to resurrect dead people? Jon Snow, Lady Stoneheart, and Beric Dondarrion were all brought back Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: We don't even know if the lord of light exists. You really need to pay more attention. Keep in mind that Martin has specifically he doesn't believe in magic or gods at all. |
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Posted: 3/24/2019 4:54:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The last book ended with Snow being stabbed. We’re not even sure he’s dead. Everything beyond that is the showrunners’ imagination. 
Is this thread about the books? We are so far beyond the book material your comment is ludicrous. |
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Posted: 3/24/2019 6:44:49 PM EDT
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if it's not magic or divine action, what power is allowing followers of R'hllor to resurrect dead people? Jon Snow, Lady Stoneheart, and Beric Dondarrion were all brought back Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: We don't even know if the lord of light exists. You really need to pay more attention. Keep in mind that Martin has specifically he doesn't believe in magic or gods at all. The wights aren't alive and it's likely that the red god's resurrections aren't alive either. Dondarrion is pretty clear about it. |
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Posted: 3/24/2019 6:45:19 PM EDT
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Is this thread about the books? We are so far beyond the book material your comment is ludicrous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The last book ended with Snow being stabbed. We’re not even sure he’s dead. Everything beyond that is the showrunners’ imagination.
Is this thread about the books? We are so far beyond the book material your comment is ludicrous. |
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Posted: 3/25/2019 5:09:40 PM EDT
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i guess Thyros of Myr didn't repeatedly resurrect Beric Dondarrion either? The Lord of Light acting through his priests/priestesses |
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Posted: 3/25/2019 5:26:16 PM EDT
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He's not going to survive. He and Cersei came into the world together, and they will leave the world together. It would be really cool if Bran told him about Ned Stark's offer. Remember in Season 1 Ned offered Cersei a chance to leave with her children before telling Robert (which ended up being his downfall). If she had taken him up on that, they'd probably all be alive today. Tywin would have either protected them at the Rock, or sent them to Essos beyond Stannis' reach. Jamie was never one for titles, and I think he would have been happy to live in obscurity in some mansion in the Free Cities with Cersei and their children. Cersei is the one who had to sacrifice everything for power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not saying he's gonna cheerfully enlist in the Nights Watch, but what other options does he really have? |
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Posted: 3/25/2019 5:49:54 PM EDT
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Illusion, 8nbait. A trick is something a whore does for money... or candy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: BTW, Melisandre is a fraud. She comments that her spells work better at the wall -- but she's using tricks to make "magic" and has been for a long time. 8nBAIT 
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Posted: 3/26/2019 5:31:40 PM EDT
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The way it was done even in the show you don't know for certain that it was her actions that revived him. I think there are differences in how Jon behaves in the show and the way the others revived by the Red God behaved. He is still a full person whereas the others made clear they were filled with the single purpose they had when killed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i guess Thyros of Myr didn't repeatedly resurrect Beric Dondarrion either? The Lord of Light acting through his priests/priestesses |
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Posted: 3/26/2019 5:58:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When Euron is crowned king of the Iron Islands, the priest or whatever drowns him to the point where he’s either dead or unconscious. Then he’s laid on the beach where he eventually comes to without CPR or any other sort of resuscitation. Was he dead and the Drowned God brought him back to life? What is dead may never die? |
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Posted: 3/26/2019 6:09:39 PM EDT
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I honestly should probably re read those sections. The Iron Islands chapters would tend to make me glaze over a bit with boredom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: When Euron is crowned king of the Iron Islands, the priest or whatever drowns him to the point where he’s either dead or unconscious. Then he’s laid on the beach where he eventually comes to without CPR or any other sort of resuscitation. Was he dead and the Drowned God brought him back to life? What is dead may never die? 
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Posted: 3/26/2019 6:12:56 PM EDT
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I find myself NOT looking forward to the TWOW coming out because I know I'll have to reread books 4 and 5.
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Posted: 3/26/2019 6:30:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The last book ended with Snow being stabbed. We’re not even sure he’s dead. Everything beyond that is the showrunners’ imagination. How each get there after book 4 is the only thing different. And yes, Jon did die. It makes sense from both the show and book perspective. He is now free of his oath to the Night's Watch, and can become the heir to Winterfell, being both a Stark and Targaryen. |
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Posted: 3/26/2019 6:57:58 PM EDT
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I honestly should probably re read those sections. The Iron Islands chapters would tend to make me glaze over a bit with boredom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: When Euron is crowned king of the Iron Islands, the priest or whatever drowns him to the point where he’s either dead or unconscious. Then he’s laid on the beach where he eventually comes to without CPR or any other sort of resuscitation. Was he dead and the Drowned God brought him back to life? What is dead may never die? 
I'm rewatching all the episodes in preparation for the last season and saw Euron being crowned last night. He was held under and "let his lungs fill with water". But the book probably has a lot more detail. The Ironborn are a bunch of losers so I can see why their chapters might suck. |
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Posted: 3/26/2019 8:41:44 PM EDT
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D&D know how the books end. GRRM told them how the books end. How each get there after book 4 is the only thing different. And yes, Jon did die. It makes sense from both the show and book perspective. He is now free of his oath to the Night's Watch, and can become the heir to Winterfell, being both a Stark and Targaryen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The last book ended with Snow being stabbed. We’re not even sure he’s dead. Everything beyond that is the showrunners’ imagination. How each get there after book 4 is the only thing different. And yes, Jon did die. It makes sense from both the show and book perspective. He is now free of his oath to the Night's Watch, and can become the heir to Winterfell, being both a Stark and Targaryen. Or maybe not. He can be free of his vows in a number of other ways. |
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Posted: 3/27/2019 4:53:08 PM EDT
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I've only watched the show. But I've read every post in the GOT threads here which is probably even better than reading the books.
I'm rewatching all the episodes in preparation for the last season and saw Euron being crowned last night. He was held under and "let his lungs fill with water". But the book probably has a lot more detail. The Ironborn are a bunch of losers so I can see why their chapters might suck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: When Euron is crowned king of the Iron Islands, the priest or whatever drowns him to the point where he's either dead or unconscious. Then he's laid on the beach where he eventually comes to without CPR or any other sort of resuscitation. Was he dead and the Drowned God brought him back to life? What is dead may never die?
I'm rewatching all the episodes in preparation for the last season and saw Euron being crowned last night. He was held under and "let his lungs fill with water". But the book probably has a lot more detail. The Ironborn are a bunch of losers so I can see why their chapters might suck. |
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Posted: 3/27/2019 7:56:32 PM EDT
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I am looking for a maid of three and ten Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find myself NOT looking forward to the TWOW coming out because I know I'll have to reread books 4 and 5. 
Its kinda hard to believe books 4 and 5 were written by the same person that wrote books 1, 2 , and 3. I binge read the first 3 books. I probably finished each one in under a week. It took me MONTHS to finish books 4 and 5. It got to the point it was almost like forcing myself to do homework. |
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Posted: 3/27/2019 10:06:50 PM EDT
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After Greyjoy's Rebellion, Robert's forces should have razed every structure on the Islands, burnt every ship, destroyed every tree, salted the earth, and sailed away. No reason to let those people live. |
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Posted: 3/27/2019 10:38:45 PM EDT
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After Greyjoy's Rebellion, Robert's forces should have razed every structure on the Islands, burnt every ship, destroyed every tree, salted the earth, and sailed away. No reason to let those people live. |
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Posted: 3/27/2019 11:17:51 PM EDT
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I HAVE wondered whence all the trees came? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After Greyjoy's Rebellion, Robert's forces should have razed every structure on the Islands, burnt every ship, destroyed every tree, salted the earth, and sailed away. No reason to let those people live. Not only did they somehow have all the materials readily available, but they apparently built them in just a few months. How? 
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Posted: 3/27/2019 11:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I HAVE wondered whence all the trees came? Medieval.  Attached File19th Century.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/27/2019 11:58:42 PM EDT
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Has anyone mentioned Maisie Williams says you should rewatch S01 because S08 will have a lot to do with stuff mentioned there.
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Posted: 3/28/2019 4:35:26 AM EDT
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Has anyone mentioned Maisie Williams says you should rewatch S01 because S08 will have a lot to do with stuff mentioned there. 
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Posted: 3/28/2019 8:50:23 AM EDT
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Why? They're a very useful navy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After Greyjoy's Rebellion, Robert's forces should have razed every structure on the Islands, burnt every ship, destroyed every tree, salted the earth, and sailed away. No reason to let those people live. |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 10:36:28 AM EDT
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Has anyone mentioned Maisie Williams says you should rewatch S01 because S08 will have a lot to do with stuff mentioned there. Edited to add, looked last night on Amazon prime and all seasons EXCEPT season 1 are free...hmmmm... |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 11:41:09 AM EDT
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Really does sound like they're not sparing any expense for this season, and this doesn't even include
the sets, CGI, etc... "Dany’s arrival into Winterfell was filmed many times. We’ve heard this before: the almost doubled production time wasn’t just for the sake of battles, but to ensure every scene is filmed in the best way possible. Showrunners Benioff and Weiss didn’t want to spare any expense to do the ending justice; or, as they put it to XLSemanal, to “not fuck it up.” And so they spent ten months filming only six episodes, with as many as three units, repeating takes, tweaking movements and dialogue; polishing for days scenes that should take hours. The showrunners took it more seriously than ever before. This also applies to everyone in the crew. The costume department’s Kate O’Farrell, who has more than 80 people working for her, claims they “made 22,000 pieces of clothing for extras this season, and another 300 for our stars.” Armorer Natalia Lee’s team worked overtime as well, creating countless “daggers, spears, bows, catapults, hammers, shields, crosbows and scorpions, halberds, maces, flails, tribal weapons; swords of steel, copper obsidian, wood and rubber; sword sheaths…”. And on and on it goes. http://watchersonthewall.com/new-game-thrones-season-8-promo-photos-set-report-interviews/ |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 11:42:23 AM EDT
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Has anyone mentioned Maisie Williams says you should rewatch S01 because S08 will have a lot to do with stuff mentioned there. They kill wrights with fire? |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 11:45:05 AM EDT
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They're pirates. Thieves and rapists. Hostis humani generis. And they're only useful when it suits them to be useful. They'll stab you in the back in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 12:04:19 PM EDT
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That's pretty much every feudal lord in the medieval world. They're no worse that Tywin or Walder. If you're strong, they'll be your loyal navy. If you're weak, they'll pick the bones from your carcass. We tend to idealize the idea of knights and castles, but in reality they were basically a Hells Angels motorcycle gang. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They're pirates. Thieves and rapists. Hostis humani generis. And they're only useful when it suits them to be useful. They'll stab you in the back in a heartbeat. Except in times of war, Lannister or Frey subjects generally live in peace. They farm, mine, smith, etc. The ironborn's entire way of life is based on piracy. There is a huge difference. |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 12:17:29 PM EDT
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They're pirates. Pirates have been universally reviled since Roman times. Except in times of war, Lannister or Frey subjects generally live in peace. They farm, mine, smith, etc. The ironborn's entire way of life is based on piracy. There is a huge difference. |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 12:24:37 PM EDT
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You're not going to eliminate the entire population. And given the geography of the islands they're always going to be pirates. But after the Greyjoy rebellion was quashed, they were pretty quiet, limiting their raiding to Essos for the most part. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They're pirates. Pirates have been universally reviled since Roman times. Except in times of war, Lannister or Frey subjects generally live in peace. They farm, mine, smith, etc. The ironborn's entire way of life is based on piracy. There is a huge difference.
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Posted: 3/28/2019 5:57:58 PM EDT
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Some interesting hypotheses!
 Watch This Before You See The Final Game Of Thrones Season  The Third Clue that Arya Stark will kill the Mountain in Game of Thrones Season 8 |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 1:35:43 PM EDT
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Jack Posobeic is going to post spoilers for the entire season 8 on IG at 5:00 EST. He's been tweeting about it all day...
Sounds like he has a grudge against HBO and D&D, and claims to have an insider source. |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 1:39:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I rewatched all seasons a couple of weeks back |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 1:45:34 PM EDT
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They're pirates. Thieves and rapists. Hostis humani generis. And they're only useful when it suits them to be useful. They'll stab you in the back in a heartbeat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After Greyjoy's Rebellion, Robert's forces should have razed every structure on the Islands, burnt every ship, destroyed every tree, salted the earth, and sailed away. No reason to let those people live. |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 1:45:43 PM EDT
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Jack Posobeic is going to post spoilers for the entire season 8 on IG at 5:00 EST. He's been tweeting about it all day... Sounds like he has a grudge against HBO and D&D, and claims to have an insider source.
Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 2:06:44 PM EDT
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He is going to post it on Instagram, which is private. Anyone friends with him on Insta?
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Jack Posobeic is going to post spoilers for the entire season 8 on IG at 5:00 EST. He's been tweeting about it all day... Sounds like he has a grudge against HBO and D&D, and claims to have an insider source.
Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 3:54:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is going to post it on Instagram, which is private. Anyone friends with him on Insta?
Click To View Spoiler I also have no idea who Jack Probiseic is... |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 4:08:20 PM EDT
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Jack Posobeic is going to post spoilers for the entire season 8 on IG at 5:00 EST. He's been tweeting about it all day... Sounds like he has a grudge against HBO and D&D, and claims to have an insider source. |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 6:18:32 PM EDT
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No shit.
Its kinda hard to believe books 4 and 5 were written by the same person that wrote books 1, 2 , and 3. I binge read the first 3 books. I probably finished each one in under a week. It took me MONTHS to finish books 4 and 5. It got to the point it was almost like forcing myself to do homework. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find myself NOT looking forward to the TWOW coming out because I know I'll have to reread books 4 and 5.
Its kinda hard to believe books 4 and 5 were written by the same person that wrote books 1, 2 , and 3. I binge read the first 3 books. I probably finished each one in under a week. It took me MONTHS to finish books 4 and 5. It got to the point it was almost like forcing myself to do homework. |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 1:19:19 AM EDT
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Why no spoilers tho?
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Posted: 3/30/2019 2:30:40 AM EDT
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Why no spoilers tho? |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 8:38:37 AM EDT
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I read the spoilers.
They seem utterly bullshit and there is no proof that the leaker is credible. Time will tell though |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 9:47:59 PM EDT
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Really does sound like they're not sparing any expense for this season, and this doesn't even include the sets, CGI, etc... "Dany’s arrival into Winterfell was filmed many times. We’ve heard this before: the almost doubled production time wasn’t just for the sake of battles, but to ensure every scene is filmed in the best way possible. Showrunners Benioff and Weiss didn’t want to spare any expense to do the ending justice; or, as they put it to XLSemanal, to “not fuck it up.” And so they spent ten months filming only six episodes, with as many as three units, repeating takes, tweaking movements and dialogue; polishing for days scenes that should take hours. The showrunners took it more seriously than ever before. This also applies to everyone in the crew. The costume department’s Kate O’Farrell, who has more than 80 people working for her, claims they “made 22,000 pieces of clothing for extras this season, and another 300 for our stars.” Armorer Natalia Lee’s team worked overtime as well, creating countless “daggers, spears, bows, catapults, hammers, shields, crosbows and scorpions, halberds, maces, flails, tribal weapons; swords of steel, copper obsidian, wood and rubber; sword sheaths…”. And on and on it goes. http://watchersonthewall.com/new-game-thrones-season-8-promo-photos-set-report-interviews/ |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 9:53:05 PM EDT
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I would rather they spent that effort developing the story, rather than the visuals. Knockout visuals cannot save a fouled-up story. See Star Wars 1-3. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really does sound like they're not sparing any expense for this season, and this doesn't even include the sets, CGI, etc... "Dany’s arrival into Winterfell was filmed many times. We’ve heard this before: the almost doubled production time wasn’t just for the sake of battles, but to ensure every scene is filmed in the best way possible. Showrunners Benioff and Weiss didn’t want to spare any expense to do the ending justice; or, as they put it to XLSemanal, to “not fuck it up.” And so they spent ten months filming only six episodes, with as many as three units, repeating takes, tweaking movements and dialogue; polishing for days scenes that should take hours. The showrunners took it more seriously than ever before. This also applies to everyone in the crew. The costume department’s Kate O’Farrell, who has more than 80 people working for her, claims they “made 22,000 pieces of clothing for extras this season, and another 300 for our stars.” Armorer Natalia Lee’s team worked overtime as well, creating countless “daggers, spears, bows, catapults, hammers, shields, crosbows and scorpions, halberds, maces, flails, tribal weapons; swords of steel, copper obsidian, wood and rubber; sword sheaths…”. And on and on it goes. http://watchersonthewall.com/new-game-thrones-season-8-promo-photos-set-report-interviews/ |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 11:12:08 PM EDT
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I would settle for more Ghost screen time vs useless dragon flying scene-setting shots Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really does sound like they're not sparing any expense for this season, and this doesn't even include the sets, CGI, etc... "Dany’s arrival into Winterfell was filmed many times. We’ve heard this before: the almost doubled production time wasn’t just for the sake of battles, but to ensure every scene is filmed in the best way possible. Showrunners Benioff and Weiss didn’t want to spare any expense to do the ending justice; or, as they put it to XLSemanal, to “not fuck it up.” And so they spent ten months filming only six episodes, with as many as three units, repeating takes, tweaking movements and dialogue; polishing for days scenes that should take hours. The showrunners took it more seriously than ever before. This also applies to everyone in the crew. The costume department’s Kate O’Farrell, who has more than 80 people working for her, claims they “made 22,000 pieces of clothing for extras this season, and another 300 for our stars.” Armorer Natalia Lee’s team worked overtime as well, creating countless “daggers, spears, bows, catapults, hammers, shields, crosbows and scorpions, halberds, maces, flails, tribal weapons; swords of steel, copper obsidian, wood and rubber; sword sheaths…”. And on and on it goes. http://watchersonthewall.com/new-game-thrones-season-8-promo-photos-set-report-interviews/ Hell, they had have Sansa mention Ghost's name to Arya just so the casual fans didn't forget he existed. |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 11:23:49 PM EDT
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Why no spoilers tho? |
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