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Posted: 4/16/2019 4:59:33 PM EDT
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Yes. The first war with the WW was on the order of 8,000 years ago. The Targaryans landed on Dragonstone about 400 years ago, and on mainland Westeros 300 years ago. The first war with the WW was thousands of years before the Valyrians even rose as a civilization. So, I'm thinking that the Night King is a Stark, possibly before there was even a House Stark. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:00:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting point. We know Jon IS a Targaryen though, so it must just be a plot hole. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:00:17 PM EDT
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Why does it matter if the Night King is a Stark? How would that affect the story?
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:01:27 PM EDT
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Here's how the war council scene should have gone.
*Random grumbling about the King in the North* Lyanna (standing up). Why don't you two just get married? You're already fookin. Dany. Excuse me? What do you know of this. You're just a child? Lyanna. Just because I'm a girl doesn't mean I don't know what fookin is. We're all here because someone was fookin. Then we'll follow the King in the North and you're Dothraki and Unsullied will follow you. Jon. We don't have time for this, the Night King. . . . Lyanna. If you've got time for fookin, you've got time to get married. There's a wierwood in the courtyard. You can be married today. *Tyrion shrugs in agreement and drinks more wine, Sansa does Mean Girls thing with Dany* Davos. She's right. I may be from fleabottom, but I know fookin and marriage go best together. They get married. The end. Problem solved. CGI budget usage = 0. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:05:51 PM EDT
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The Targs first came to Westeros long after the Wall was built. If they touch on the origin of the Night King, he will be a Stark or other northern lord. So we are talking 6-8,000 years prior to present day Westeros. It's gotta be a COF and/or First Men thing. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:07:12 PM EDT
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Here's how the war council scene should have gone. . . Lyanna. If you've got time for fookin, you've got time to get married. There's a wierwood in the courtyard. You can be married today. *Tyrion shrugs in agreement and drinks more wine, Sansa does Mean Girls thing with Dany* Davos. She's right. I may be from fleabottom, but I know fookin and marriage go best together. They get married. The end. Problem solved. CGI budget usage = 0. 
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:09:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sam didn’t read about it in a book so presumably there’s no written history of it. There was already an ideal scene during one of Bran’s flashbacks to kinda give some insight on who he was. We don’t know what the Night King wants. When Bran was with the children of the forest in the tree with the three-eyes raven it would have been a great time to explain his actions but they didn’t. I’m curious if they try to explain any of it in the show. Bran would presumably be the only who would be able to see what he wants. Unless of course, the night king sends a raven to winterfell with a list of demands. the way they have presented him.. he is key to the defeat of the nights king and the zombie horde.. so how does that work? |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:10:36 PM EDT
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Just how dumb are these motherfuckers that they go 6-8,000 years with little to no increase in technology, and arguably a loss?
All that inbreeding ain't just for royals I guess. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:18:23 PM EDT
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Why does it matter if the Night King is a Stark? How would that affect the story? At the end of the day I really don’t care who he was. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:24:19 PM EDT
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He is Aerys II Targaryen; which is why the dragon Viserion, which is named after his son, allows him to ride on his back and accepted him so naturally. Daenerys rides Drogon who's named after her dead husband Drogo; and Jon rides atop Rhaegal who is named after Daenerys's eldest brother, Jon's true father and Aerys son, Rhaegar Targaryen. Only Targaryens can ride dragons. Its all in the family Aerys II Targaryan AKA The Mad King is The Night King. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Night King wants the throne of Westeros back. Daenerys rides Drogon who's named after her dead husband Drogo; and Jon rides atop Rhaegal who is named after Daenerys's eldest brother, Jon's true father and Aerys son, Rhaegar Targaryen. Only Targaryens can ride dragons. Its all in the family Aerys II Targaryan AKA The Mad King is The Night King. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:29:22 PM EDT
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Just how dumb are these motherfuckers that they go 6-8,000 years with little to no increase in technology, and arguably a loss? All that inbreeding ain't just for royals I guess. How many dragons do we have? None. Magic necklaces that turn you into a smoking hot chick? Zero. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:34:26 PM EDT
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And how dumb are we? How many dragons do we have? None. Magic necklaces that turn you into a smoking hot chick? Zero. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just how dumb are these motherfuckers that they go 6-8,000 years with little to no increase in technology, and arguably a loss? All that inbreeding ain't just for royals I guess. How many dragons do we have? None. Magic necklaces that turn you into a smoking hot chick? Zero. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:48:14 PM EDT
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Rednecks gonna redneck Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The complete lack of the north’s understanding and urgency of how dire the situation is has dumbfounded me. They’re more concerned with who’s in charge than preparing for the real threat. composed of: General Colonel Major two privates |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:51:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought so. And I've read on reddit the theories that the Night King is a more recent Targaryn, like the mad king or Reagar. Which begs the question, who would be nearby and willing to convert either of them? As far as we know only the children of the forest and white walkers can make a white walker. And since white walkers couldn't cross the wall at the time, they couldn't put someone in place to convert a dying mad king in Kings Landing. That leaves the Children of the forest. And why would they make a new white walker when they were already at war with the existing ones for thousands of years? So, I'm thinking that the Night King is a Stark, possibly before there was even a House Stark. I am going with the stark theory as well. We already seen one stark get risen from death...and wasn’t Jons uncle some form of undead as well? |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:52:07 PM EDT
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Why does it matter if the Night King is a Stark? How would that affect the story? |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:55:28 PM EDT
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Sansa orders Jaimie’s death Arya takes over as Jaime and returns to beg forgiveness from Cerci When Cerci takes “Jaime” to bed, Arya cuts her throat Arya/Cersi orders all the Southern troops and the Goldens north and they arrive just in time to save the day. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:55:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya. I am going with the stark theory as well. We already seen one stark get risen from death...and wasn’t Jons uncle some form of undead as well? |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 5:58:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're a dick! Take it back!  
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Posted: 4/16/2019 6:00:42 PM EDT
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You're making my point for me. They've had that stuff for millennia and haven't advanced on it at all, only lost it bit by bit. 
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Posted: 4/16/2019 6:08:40 PM EDT
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I'm wondering if Dario Naharis will be in it anymore. I can't imagine the Golden Company coming to Westeros and it not being on his radar. Surprised he didnt try to burn the ships or something to prevent them from coming. I know hes outnumbered but guerrilla tactics could work.
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Posted: 4/16/2019 6:12:42 PM EDT
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I'm wondering if Dario Naharis will be in it anymore. I can't imagine the Golden Company coming to Westeros and it not being on his radar. Surprised he didnt try to burn the ships or something to prevent them from coming. I know hes outnumbered but guerrilla tactics could work. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 6:14:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2019 6:28:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2019 6:43:57 PM EDT
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You're making my point for me. They've had that stuff for millennia and haven't advanced on it at all, only lost it bit by bit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just how dumb are these motherfuckers that they go 6-8,000 years with little to no increase in technology, and arguably a loss? All that inbreeding ain't just for royals I guess. How many dragons do we have? None. Magic necklaces that turn you into a smoking hot chick? Zero. Westeros has been at war 24/7/365 forever. Any advancements in technology are soon lost as well as the minds that create the tech. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 6:54:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2019 7:18:51 PM EDT
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So Arya travels over 1,500 miles to KL, does all her FM shit, and then transports a massive army 1,500 miles to Winterfell all in under 48 hours? I hope Arya took Littlefinger’s jet pack, found a way to supercharge it, and then had 30,000 more made. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sansa orders Jaimie’s death Arya takes over as Jaime and returns to beg forgiveness from Cerci When Cerci takes “Jaime” to bed, Arya cuts her throat Arya/Cersi orders all the Southern troops and the Goldens north and they arrive just in time to save the day. I hope Arya took Littlefinger’s jet pack, found a way to supercharge it, and then had 30,000 more made. They had a camp Fire last season when they captured the white to bring back to Cersei. Not a tree on the fuckin planet. 8 inch log perfectly cut as if with a chainsaw. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 7:20:45 PM EDT
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Any word on what Edmure Tully is up to these days? Still chilling in the dead Frey's dungeon?
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Posted: 4/16/2019 7:24:32 PM EDT
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Any word on what Edmure Tully is up to these days? Still chilling in the dead Frey's dungeon? the Black Fish telling them not to let him in? Well...they let him in and that was the end of the Black Fish. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 7:31:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhh...he's back in Riverrun? Don't you remember the Lannisters giving him back so that he could end the siege of Riverrun and the Black Fish telling them not to let him in? Well...they let him in and that was the end of the Black Fish. If you're going to be sassy, at least be right. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 7:46:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhh...he's back in Riverrun? Don't you remember the Lannisters giving him back so that he could end the siege of Riverrun and the Black Fish telling them not to let him in? Well...they let him in and that was the end of the Black Fish. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 7:50:55 PM EDT
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Yeah, but he was still their prisoner. What happened to him after the Freys got whacked? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:01:40 PM EDT
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Roslin probably freed him and they took off. Maybe he's headed for Winterfell? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:22:14 PM EDT
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You're making my point for me. They've had that stuff for millennia and haven't advanced on it at all, only lost it bit by bit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just how dumb are these motherfuckers that they go 6-8,000 years with little to no increase in technology, and arguably a loss? All that inbreeding ain't just for royals I guess. How many dragons do we have? None. Magic necklaces that turn you into a smoking hot chick? Zero. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:23:42 PM EDT
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Didn't Joffrey turn Ros into a pin cushion?
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or was that his wife's name too? ).
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:25:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His pincushion was Ros, Roslin Frey was a different character (the only cute Frey ).
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:25:48 PM EDT
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Roslin probably freed him and they took off. Maybe he's headed for Winterfell? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:26:49 PM EDT
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His pincushion was Ros, Roslin Frey was a different character (the only cute Frey ).
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or was that his wife's name too? ).
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:27:50 PM EDT
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I'm assuming this go around, Daenerys, Jon, and the dragons will be chasing down the Night King when he inevitably retreats from Winterfell to ensure they put an end to any more future invasions..
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:28:39 PM EDT
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Is he important enough to be in the most important 5 episodes? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:31:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:32:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is he important enough to be in the most important 5 episodes? |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:33:28 PM EDT
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I doubt it, but I could see him showing up just for closure since he's been MIA. If nothing else he can die fighting to make amends for some of his actions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:49:50 PM EDT
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I'm assuming this go around, Daenerys, Jon, and the dragons will be chasing down the Night King when he inevitably retreats from Winterfell to ensure they put an end to any more future invasions.. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:51:41 PM EDT
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His pincushion was Ros, Roslin Frey was a different character (the only cute Frey ).
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or was that his wife's name too? ).
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:52:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2019 8:55:00 PM EDT
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I can't see that. You've got a guy, NK, who has done nothing but badass wolf-stare and kill shit all series. To see him turn tail and retreat would be out of character. Then again, I suppose we really don't know anything about him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm assuming this go around, Daenerys, Jon, and the dragons will be chasing down the Night King when he inevitably retreats from Winterfell to ensure they put an end to any more future invasions.. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 9:00:55 PM EDT
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He threw javelin on his high school track team. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm assuming this go around, Daenerys, Jon, and the dragons will be chasing down the Night King when he inevitably retreats from Winterfell to ensure they put an end to any more future invasions.. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 9:07:17 PM EDT
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This thread must be tho most active on ARF besides the 24/365 nonsense. I can't keep up!
I figured out how to know who gets the throne in the end. Eat GOT Oreos at random. The last cookie left in the pack is the sigil of the winner. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 9:09:18 PM EDT
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This thread must be tho most active on ARF besides the 24/365 nonsense. I can't keep up! I figured out how to know who gets the throne in the end. Eat GOT Oreos at random. The last cookie left in the pack is the sigil of the winner. |
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Posted: 4/16/2019 9:23:00 PM EDT
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He threw javelin on his high school track team. |
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