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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:23:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR4U: OP, don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like an asshole. Yup. I’m not reading 4 pages of this thread, but they fired you as a customer because you’re a pain in the ass. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:23:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:23:25 PM EDT
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Quoted: I placed an order for a SD Rifle and few other items to use up my 35%coupon was going to sell them for a profit. I had already sent them a list of processing problems during my FFL shipping confirmation communication which pissed them off. Nick asked if I wanted to cancel my order replied with a no and that I would tell him if I wanted it cancelled. His next action was to cancel it and said he was issuing a refund. Geissele would and still does not reply to my phone calls or emails so I filed a complaint with the BBB which is waiting for Geissele's response. I sent the BBB the entire email thread as evidence. Geissele deleted the thread in the Industry Forum that listed several posts how Geissele deletes bad reviews....guess they didn't like the criticism so they deleted the entire thread listing the examples. They don't respond and don't want to honor the 35% off coupons from their BFS clown Below is a VERY short email thread. (The entire thread of documents was submitted to the BBB as evidence to support my compaint against Geissele. Nick, I did not request my order to be canceled so why did you do it? Keep the order active, ship my items, and have Bill call me. You do not have the right to cancel orders because I reply with some of the negative experiences I have with GA. Will you remove my comments on social media too? Will you have me banned from forums when I post negative feedback? What is going to be your reply when I file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau? Is this the way you treat a 100% disabled veteran of the US Marine Corps that served 22 years active duty and a former Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor? Jeff Jeff, I was being honest and only trying to help. I'm going to save you any further concerns for trouble with this order. I've had it cancelled and the refund issued to you. Feel free to spend your money elsewhere. Thank you, Nick Nick, Great company man speech....... I did not request my order to be canceled did I? If I wanted it canceled I would have stated it. Maybe you should do less assumptions. Jeff Quoted so joglee can read the second sentence |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:23:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Were you a firearms instructor before or after your 100% disability? You don't have to disabled to be rated 100% Disabled from the VA. It's not that kind of thing. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:23:37 PM EDT
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OP is a diseased twat.
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:23:37 PM EDT
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Bet OP used a rotary telephone when calling Geissele HQ
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:24:52 PM EDT
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OP, where are you hiding you coward?
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:24:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spacejunk: Bet OP used a rotary telephone when calling Geissele HQ Probably tried to pay with a Montgomery Ward credit card. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:25:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MHowski: Yup. I’m not reading 4 pages of this thread, but they fired you as a customer because you’re a pain in the ass. But you should! It's been great! @MHowski |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:25:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:25:23 PM EDT
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In this thread the douche canoe of an OP starts out with admitting to a felony... gold.
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:26:06 PM EDT
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Where are OP’s dog tags, EGA, and instructor flair?
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:26:27 PM EDT
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“Is this the way you treat a 100% disabled veteran of the US Marine Corps that served 22 years active duty and a former Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor?”
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:26:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Yet how many threads do we see about how you must buy a Colt so you can sell it later for a good price cause it will retain its value? 6920s are the $20,000 Gen 1 Tacoma of the AR world. 
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:26:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlyNavy75: Savage. This thread gonna cause OP to file a #metoo before long. He gettin raped. 
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:26:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:26:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whiskerz: Buying a gun for resale requires an ffl. Personal property and all but guns happen to have a national police force . In Georgia if I sell 5 cars a year I am a dealer. But his admission of buying the gun for resale puts him squarely in FFL territory. Profit does not even matter. He could by the gun and lose money. He will also be lying on his 4473. What if he lists it on gunbroker and sends it to an ffl via a sale in which he profits? That seems ok, no? |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:27:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spartacus2002: Where are OP’s dog tags, EGA, and instructor flair? You know what, Stan, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair, like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair? |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:27:37 PM EDT
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After re-reading the OP for a 3rd time, this just has to be a troll thread.
There are simply too many true gems in one post to be authentic fuckery. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:28:12 PM EDT
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Who here would love to watch Billy G call him on Livestream?
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:28:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: What if he lists it on gunbroker and sends it to an ffl via a sale in which he profits? That seems ok, no? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: Originally Posted By whiskerz: Buying a gun for resale requires an ffl. Personal property and all but guns happen to have a national police force . In Georgia if I sell 5 cars a year I am a dealer. But his admission of buying the gun for resale puts him squarely in FFL territory. Profit does not even matter. He could by the gun and lose money. He will also be lying on his 4473. What if he lists it on gunbroker and sends it to an ffl via a sale in which he profits? That seems ok, no? What's the first rule of fight club? |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: What if he lists it on gunbroker and sends it to an ffl via a sale in which he profits? That seems ok, no? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Voland: Originally Posted By whiskerz: Buying a gun for resale requires an ffl. Personal property and all but guns happen to have a national police force . In Georgia if I sell 5 cars a year I am a dealer. But his admission of buying the gun for resale puts him squarely in FFL territory. Profit does not even matter. He could by the gun and lose money. He will also be lying on his 4473. What if he lists it on gunbroker and sends it to an ffl via a sale in which he profits? That seems ok, no? Doesn’t matter. His intentions spells it out squarely and put him in the “business” of selling firearms. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:28:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: So how does that work? It is his personal property. You telling me the ATF says you can't buy a collectible gun and sell it later to make a profit? If Colt releases a collectible firearm, you are not allowed to buy it and sell it later when it's worth more? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Originally Posted By whiskerz: Buying a gun for resale requires an ffl. Personal property and all but guns happen to have a national police force . In Georgia if I sell 5 cars a year I am a dealer. But his admission of buying the gun for resale puts him squarely in FFL territory. Profit does not even matter. He could by the gun and lose money. He will also be lying on his 4473. So how does that work? It is his personal property. You telling me the ATF says you can't buy a collectible gun and sell it later to make a profit? If Colt releases a collectible firearm, you are not allowed to buy it and sell it later when it's worth more? It’s all about intent. If you buy a firearm with the outright intent of reselling it, then you need to have a FFL. If you’re buying a gun you want but sell it down the road (for profit or not) then no reasonable prosecutor would press charges. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:29:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So how does that work? It is his personal property. You telling me the ATF says you can't buy a collectible gun and sell it later to make a profit? If Colt releases a collectible firearm, you are not allowed to buy it and sell it later when it's worth more? He did say "flip it". Usually that means put it up for sale right away. Buying a collector gun and a couple years later and it happens to be worth more isn't an issue. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:30:00 PM EDT
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Lol
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:30:19 PM EDT
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Obviously, the OP's favorite book...
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:30:21 PM EDT
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Geissele topic sure brings in plenty of personal attacks not much left before the lock!
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:30:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shelbysguns: Who here would love to watch Billy G call him on Livestream? Ring ring ring "hello?" "Hi, its Bill Geissele. Fuck you. " *click* |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:31:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HillaryClinton: It’s all about intent. If you buy a firearm with the outright intent of reselling it, then you need to have a FFL. If you’re buying a gun you want but sell it down the road (for profit or not) then no reasonable prosecutor would press charges. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HillaryClinton: Originally Posted By joglee: Originally Posted By whiskerz: Buying a gun for resale requires an ffl. Personal property and all but guns happen to have a national police force . In Georgia if I sell 5 cars a year I am a dealer. But his admission of buying the gun for resale puts him squarely in FFL territory. Profit does not even matter. He could by the gun and lose money. He will also be lying on his 4473. So how does that work? It is his personal property. You telling me the ATF says you can't buy a collectible gun and sell it later to make a profit? If Colt releases a collectible firearm, you are not allowed to buy it and sell it later when it's worth more? It’s all about intent. If you buy a firearm with the outright intent of reselling it, then you need to have a FFL. If you’re buying a gun you want but sell it down the road (for profit or not) then no reasonable prosecutor would press charges. I say f the batf and the stupid rule... |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:31:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who here would love to watch Billy G call him on Livestream? |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:31:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR4U: OP, don't take this the wrong way, but you sound like an asshole. Yeah how could he possibly take that the wrong way...LOL Call it a Knight's. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:31:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: But you should! It's been great! @MHowski Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Originally Posted By MHowski: Yup. I’m not reading 4 pages of this thread, but they fired you as a customer because you’re a pain in the ass. But you should! It's been great! @MHowski I actually went back and read it, it’s a good one! |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:31:48 PM EDT
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Made this one before the lock!
ETA: A Safe thread and a Geissele thread in one day! |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:32:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You lost every ounce of credibility as soon as you played the disabled veteran card. That has fuck all to do with you trying to flip products. You are welcome for your service I guess. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:32:09 PM EDT
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#OPSTILLWANTSSUPERPRECISION
#OPCANNOTGEISSELEALLTHETHINGS |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:32:12 PM EDT
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Sounds to me like Geisselle kept themselves from knowingly participating in a straw purchase
Good firing |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:32:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tengo1: “Is this the way you treat a 100% disabled veteran of the US Marine Corps that served 22 years active duty and a former Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor?” I'm not a vet, but I kinda want to save this as a sort of "copy pasta". |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:33:40 PM EDT
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“Is this the way you treat a 100% disabled veteran of the US Marine Corps that served 22 years active duty and a former Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor?”
 Attached FileAnd just like that, a new copypasta began. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:33:57 PM EDT
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Lol.
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:35:01 PM EDT
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I’m not special, but I’m in!!
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:35:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abominable: “Is this the way you treat a 100% disabled veteran of the US Marine Corps that served 22 years active duty and a former Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor?” https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/348465/B88F1DCD-0ED6-45EC-9CA8-B4C9F50727FD_jpe-1414895.JPG And just like that, a new copypasta began. YESSSSSS! |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:35:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: I placed an order for a SD Rifle and few other items to use up my 35%coupon was going to sell them for a profit. I had already sent them a list of processing problems during my FFL shipping confirmation communication which pissed them off. Nick asked if I wanted to cancel my order replied with a no and that I would tell him if I wanted it cancelled. His next action was to cancel it and said he was issuing a refund. Geissele would and still does not reply to my phone calls or emails so I filed a complaint with the BBB which is waiting for Geissele's response. I sent the BBB the entire email thread as evidence. Geissele deleted the thread in the Industry Forum that listed several posts how Geissele deletes bad reviews....guess they didn't like the criticism so they deleted the entire thread listing the examples. They don't respond and don't want to honor the 35% off coupons from their BFS clown show. Below is a VERY short email thread. (The entire thread of documents was submitted to the BBB as evidence to support my compaint against Geissele. Nick, I did not request my order to be canceled so why did you do it? Keep the order active, ship my items, and have Bill call me. You do not have the right to cancel orders because I reply with some of the negative experiences I have with GA. Will you remove my comments on social media too? Will you have me banned from forums when I post negative feedback? What is going to be your reply when I file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau? Is this the way you treat a 100% disabled veteran of the US Marine Corps that served 22 years active duty and a former Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor? Jeff Jeff, I was being honest and only trying to help. I'm going to save you any further concerns for trouble with this order. I've had it cancelled and the refund issued to you. Feel free to spend your money elsewhere. Thank you, Nick Nick, Great company man speech....... I did not request my order to be canceled did I? If I wanted it canceled I would have stated it. Maybe you should do less assumptions. Jeff Not really sure why you used your veteran card... but okay. If you've had so many bad experiences before, why would you continue to give the company money? I don't understand that. I don't personally own anything Geissele. Not through any fault of their own... or due to any bad experiences. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:35:36 PM EDT
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You got fired OP. FYI I don't work for Geissele. I work for a large firearms accessory manufacturer as a "product specialist", meaning I'm the guy that answers the phone/emails to answer questions and provide my knowledge so our customers "buy once, cry once." Don't you realize the ENTIRE industry is overwhelmed with orders, not just from individuals, but from our long list of well established dealers and distributors that account for 80% of our business. The "Amazon" mentality that people have become accustomed to, that they will have their order YESTERDAY is BS. Grow the F up. Our inventory was wiped out 6 weeks ago and we have machines running nonstop, even on weekends now. A 3-4 week backorder time is what it is right now, no different than after Obama got elected or after Sandy Hook. Machining, deburring, sand- blasing, anodizing, laser engraving, assembly, QC testing, packaging, invoicing and shipping takes time. And repeat that for over 300 individual products we manufacture in house?!?!? Stop calling. Stop emailing every other day. You'll get your order out as soon as we can. We understand your bored at home but come on, the zombies aren't coming over the wall!!! Every call/email takes someone away from some aspect of their job that would help your order ship sooner. We don't fire customers btw. We also don't charge CC's until we ship your order so that helps, but please people RELAX. I wouldn't have done to a customer what G did, but I WILL bet my ass there is more to the story OP. SHORT ANSWER: OP, you pissed of a busy company at a busy time. Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and sometimes it gets the boot. Stay safe and god bless. Shane. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:35:45 PM EDT
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I wonder how many bumper stickers the OP has on his vehicle. People who brag about everything he did always have lots of bumper stickers.
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spacejunk: Bet OP used a rotary telephone when calling Geissele HQ So you got a problem with that? 
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:36:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kells81: After that last Black Friday Clusterfuck- you never know. Am I allowed to say “when assholes collide?” |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:36:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob940: He did say "flip it". Usually that means put it up for sale right away. Buying a collector gun and a couple years later and it happens to be worth more isn't an issue. Time has nothing to do with it. You can buy a gun, find a better gun the same day, and sell the first gun to pay for the second. Totally fine. Its the intent to resell at the time of purchase that is the ATF issue. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:37:42 PM EDT
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"Are you aware that there are 22-year Marine vets with 100% disability who depend on 35% coupons to buy their nut coal?"
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:38:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PhilChordoma: Sounds to me like Geisselle kept themselves from knowingly participating in a straw purchase Good firing Didn't we just do this a few months ago or a year ago? |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 10:38:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Am I allowed to say “when assholes collide?” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By kells81: After that last Black Friday Clusterfuck- you never know. Am I allowed to say “when assholes collide?” possibly |
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