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Posted: 10/20/2023 7:56:21 PM EDT
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There are multiple apps that will play YouTube videos on Desktops, Firesticks, and probably Roku devices without playing ads.
you can even google them... |
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Posted: 10/25/2023 8:52:18 PM EDT
[#2]
Got the hammer today. No more YouTube I guess.
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Posted: 10/25/2023 9:37:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got the hammer today. No more YouTube I guess. I've just been popping the videos into an incognito window. |
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Posted: 10/25/2023 10:34:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of effort going into stealing a service. Says a lot about GD's moral character and ethics. It is simple, follow the TOS or go elsewhere. Maybe start your own streaming service. Please explain how not watching ads is stealing. Serious question. Hw does the fact that they want you to watch them make you morally culpable if you don't? @MikeJGA No intent to be flaming and combative, but I don't see why you'd think that. |
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Posted: 10/25/2023 10:39:33 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please explain how not watching ads is stealing. Serious question. Hw does the fact that they want you to watch them make you morally culpable if you don't? @MikeJGA No intent to be flaming and combative, but I don't see why you'd think that. I still believe a man's word is his bond. When you agree to the TOS and willfully ignore the TOS you are no better than the BLM rioters or FSA. |
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Posted: 10/25/2023 10:42:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still believe a man's word is his bond. When you agree to the TOS and willfully ignore the TOS you are no better than the BLM rioters or FSA. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Please explain how not watching ads is stealing. Serious question. Hw does the fact that they want you to watch them make you morally culpable if you don't? @MikeJGA No intent to be flaming and combative, but I don't see why you'd think that. I still believe a man's word is his bond. When you agree to the TOS and willfully ignore the TOS you are no better than the BLM rioters or FSA.  Attached FileNo offense meant, it is a COC Friendly Meme according to ARF.  |
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Posted: 10/25/2023 10:48:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still believe a man's word is his bond. When you agree to the TOS and willfully ignore the TOS you are no better than the BLM rioters or FSA. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Please explain how not watching ads is stealing. Serious question. Hw does the fact that they want you to watch them make you morally culpable if you don't? @MikeJGA No intent to be flaming and combative, but I don't see why you'd think that. I still believe a man's word is his bond. When you agree to the TOS and willfully ignore the TOS you are no better than the BLM rioters or FSA. I mean, we're agreed on that, but that's not what I asked you. Also, I don't have an account and I never agreed to their TOS - which is entirely beside the point of the question. ... and I'm pretty sure based on your reply that you'd also say that if they put immoral crap in their TOS you wouldn't say people had to comply with it? So ... going back ... how not watching ads is stealing? How does the fact that they want you to watch them make you morally culpable if you don't? This gets to be more of a gordian knot when you add in that they intentionally make the TOS as abusive and one sided as they can and count on people to not read them and just click yes. ------------------------ Also, TOSDR is great for a quick thumbnail on the usually hilariously long obtusve TOS we see now: https://tosdr.org/en/service/274 Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 10/25/2023 11:02:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've just been popping the videos into an incognito window. |
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Posted: 10/25/2023 11:14:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please explain how not watching ads is stealing. Serious question. Hw does the fact that they want you to watch them make you morally culpable if you don't? @MikeJGA No intent to be flaming and combative, but I don't see why you'd think that. |
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Posted: 10/25/2023 11:40:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Youtube creators can make their money based on ad views. Youtube makes money based on how many ad views their creators generate. You can argue semantics forever, but that is the basic business model of "free" user created content. If you are bypassing the ad system, you are bypassing the revenue stream that pays everyone's bills. I'm not surprised, because I don't normally get an honest direct answer to the question I asked. When I ask it, everyone head-slips and eludes it and tries to re-direct. But Ok, I'll follow the moving goalposts, like an idiot. "This is how I make money off the system and that's how the system is designed." For the purposes of the discussion, agreed (and I knew that's how the platforms *say* they work). CPM payment rates that I have heard of are so tiny that almost noobody on the platforms can pay their costs to produce with them. That's why you see creator-added videos from sponsors and why platforms like patreon were built to make it were youtubers could cover their costs and make some profit OFF the yt platform. How does "that's how the system is designed and how I make money off it" mean "you are morally compelled to watch the ads if you watch the content" ...? I don't think I really have to ask why nobody can give a direct and honest answer to these questions. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 10:06:14 PM EDT
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I got the 3 video countdown this evening after not having any popups for several days.
When I'm at "the office" (I work from a WeWork office once or twice a week), I watch a few videos on my iPad, and I don't run any ad blocking there. I figured a bit of use without blocking might clear up things for a while? eh. For now I've just disabled the adblock. I still have a PiHole running. We'll see what it does. I do not think YouTube is worth $15 per month to me. That's more than AppleTV costs me, and there's much better high-production-value stuff there. |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 8:45:16 AM EDT
[#12]
Now I am getting ads on the "ne incognito window"
So it looks like they figured out people were using that trick and are closing that loophole. |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 9:51:35 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I still believe a man's word is his bond. When you agree to the TOS and willfully ignore the TOS you are no better than the BLM rioters or FSA. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Please explain how not watching ads is stealing. Serious question. Hw does the fact that they want you to watch them make you morally culpable if you don't? @MikeJGA No intent to be flaming and combative, but I don't see why you'd think that. I still believe a man's word is his bond. When you agree to the TOS and willfully ignore the TOS you are no better than the BLM rioters or FSA.  Fast forwarding through commercials during the football game is a sin!!!! |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 9:59:13 AM EDT
[#14]
There are browser extensions you can use.
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Posted: 10/29/2023 10:48:36 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of effort going into stealing a service. Says a lot about GD's moral character and ethics. It is simple, follow the TOS or go elsewhere. Maybe start your own streaming service. |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 11:47:44 AM EDT
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Andriod: New pipe legacy
Desktop: Freetube Freetubeapp.io What ads? ETA: Blocking ads is stealing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA nope Mr. FBI. |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 11:48:41 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fast forwarding through commercials during the football game is a sin!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Please explain how not watching ads is stealing. Serious question. Hw does the fact that they want you to watch them make you morally culpable if you don't? @MikeJGA No intent to be flaming and combative, but I don't see why you'd think that. I still believe a man's word is his bond. When you agree to the TOS and willfully ignore the TOS you are no better than the BLM rioters or FSA. Fast forwarding through commercials during the football game is a sin!!!! Tivo was developed and marketed by the Devil to tempt us into theft. |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 7:55:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Firefox and adblocker Ultimate still work great for me. That's what I use and still get the ads. |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 8:07:31 PM EDT
[#19]
A LOT of people in these threads are mistaking their setup working to stop this for Youtube just not getting to them yet.
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Posted: 10/29/2023 8:12:00 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Youtube creators can make their money based on ad views. Youtube makes money based on how many ad views their creators generate. You can argue semantics forever, but that is the basic business model of "free" user created content. If you are bypassing the ad system, you are bypassing the revenue stream that pays everyone's bills. Creators make money based on bullshit leftist ideals that are arbitrary and capricious and run by a bunch of tranny blue hairs that hate themselves, men, and the USA that changes at a whim for reasons that are up to and including no reason at all. Youtube = leftist cunts. If they wanted to be treated fairly, they should treat others fairly. Jesus tells them this, they don't listen and continue to be cunts. |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 8:13:55 PM EDT
[#21]
Im still pissed that Youtube-dl doesn't work anymore. German government ordered youtube-dl's website be taken down... and now you can't download it anymore.
Youtube-dl was a great command line app I'd frequently use to download youtube videos. I didn't even do it for the purpose of avoiding ads, but just downloading children's content onto a tablet so my kid could watch them without having to worry about having a stable hotspot connection. Fuck Germany. |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 8:24:31 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: BZZZZZTTT WRONG. Creators make money based on bullshit leftist ideals that are arbitrary and capricious and run by a bunch of tranny blue hairs that hate themselves, men, and the USA that changes at a whim for reasons that are up to and including no reason at all. Youtube = leftist cunts. If they wanted to be treated fairly, they should treat others fairly. Jesus tells them this, they don't listen and continue to be cunts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Youtube creators can make their money based on ad views. Youtube makes money based on how many ad views their creators generate. You can argue semantics forever, but that is the basic business model of "free" user created content. If you are bypassing the ad system, you are bypassing the revenue stream that pays everyone's bills. Creators make money based on bullshit leftist ideals that are arbitrary and capricious and run by a bunch of tranny blue hairs that hate themselves, men, and the USA that changes at a whim for reasons that are up to and including no reason at all. Youtube = leftist cunts. If they wanted to be treated fairly, they should treat others fairly. Jesus tells them this, they don't listen and continue to be cunts. I like your style |
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Posted: 10/29/2023 8:38:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "why can't I get a service for free, those bastards are making me watch ads" "this country is swirling down the toilet because of low morals!" I can't keep up  Quote HistoryQuoted: "why can't I get a service for free, those bastards are making me watch ads" "this country is swirling down the toilet because of low morals!" I can't keep up Quoted: Strange, I pay for Premium so the content creators I enjoy get paid for their work and I don't see any ads. Even if you send them $3... thats *WAAAAAAAAAAY* more than they will *EVER* get from you watching *EVERY SINGLE FUCKING AD* and *NOT* hitting the Skip button. Louis Rossman did a video where he broke down exactly how much your ad viewing actually benefits the creator. If you really feel bad, and feel a moral obligation to a creator... setup the adblocker and buy some merch (if they offer it) or send them a small donation. They'd far far far more appreciate you over the mere ad watcher. ETA the video I mentioned:  Linus says adblock is piracy: is he right? |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 10:45:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The alphabetic peeps aren't going to be happy until they can put as much adware/ spyware on your device as they can legally do, and force you to watch an ever-increasing amount of irrelevant annoying ad content. Eventually they will have the adblock/ cookie block detection tied to full-page blockage, i.e. adblocker/ cookies blocked = zero page functionality until you disable adblocker and allow cookies. The alphabetic peeps aren't going to be happy until their profits have reached all the billions. For the profit uber alles crowd - you can be a capitalist and make big profits without being a complete dick to people. Something many seem to not realize, have forgotten, or simply don't give a shit as long as they can continually increase profit. The vast majority of people aren't aware of adblockers and even if they are, don't use them. Most people use whatever browser is on their device with the default settings allowing all the crap to be loaded on their device. Those of us with some knowledge of what's out there and a desire to keep crap off our devices are a small crowd compared to the total number of people who access web services. Some of us don't have an issue with ads, per se. We have an issue with annoying ads. We don't have an ADHD-addled brain, and don't want to see in-your-face ads (Sham-WOW!!!) or ads that flash or spin or autoplay audio/ video or popup ads or blind re-directs or words that turn to popups and links and ads that just keep droning on and on and on and... This is what I see when I come to ARF... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113647/arf_-_Copy-2991714.jpg Notice the removed stuff? Yeah, that's where they kept adding content that annoyed me and eventually it's been culled to this. Notice the ad buttons? They stayed. I don't have a problem with those ads because they do not annoy me. And I actually will click through to a website when I'm looking for stuff. I've used the Primary Arms button multiple times in the last 2 weeks alone. The chance of me ever voluntarily clicking an annoying ad, or even checking out a new product in an annoying ad, is zero. Zilch. Nada. I'll continue to try and block those. When it gets to the point it's no longer easily possible, my days of using the web for anything other than absolutely necessary stuff will be over. IMHO, YMMV, Holy Wall-O-Text Batman, flame suit on, yada yada yada... I'm with you. I'm reading books again instead watching UBoob. Too bad for the content creators. Most of the ones I watched say how they've been demonetized for what they say in each of their videos. Some have posted content on Rumble. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 10:56:58 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, when a random person clicks on a youtube link and gets taken immediately to the video with no other interaction, or they watch a video embedded in another website, they are somehow agreeing to an unseen TOS that you believe carries weight because Google says so? Would you be OK with a small print agreement on a highway billboard that says "by reading this, you agree to whatever we say"? OMG DON'T READ THE SIGNS!! I'm sorry that you feel like you are beholden to the Google overlords. I do sleep fine at night in the afterglow of Youtube videos that I watch without ads. When it becomes a real problem for Google, they will make it so you can't view videos without logging in and/or paying for the content directly. Until it does, I sleep well knowing that Google isn't suffering because I'm not interested in an ad for Viagra, and refuse to watch it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In the TOS you agree to when you use the service, listed in Permissions and Restrictions in paragraph two, it specifically states (you are not allowed to) "circumvent, disable, fraudulently engage with, or otherwise interfere with any part of the Service (or attempt to do any of these things), including security-related features or features that (a) prevent or restrict the copying or other use of Content or (b) limit the use of the Service or Content;" So, when a random person clicks on a youtube link and gets taken immediately to the video with no other interaction, or they watch a video embedded in another website, they are somehow agreeing to an unseen TOS that you believe carries weight because Google says so? Would you be OK with a small print agreement on a highway billboard that says "by reading this, you agree to whatever we say"? OMG DON'T READ THE SIGNS!! I'm sorry that you feel like you are beholden to the Google overlords. I do sleep fine at night in the afterglow of Youtube videos that I watch without ads. When it becomes a real problem for Google, they will make it so you can't view videos without logging in and/or paying for the content directly. Until it does, I sleep well knowing that Google isn't suffering because I'm not interested in an ad for Viagra, and refuse to watch it. Just send the VA shill a bill for consuming for free the content you are providing in this thread. In fact he needs to pay all of us. Alex_F you hearby do not have permission to repost, comment, distribute, or disseminate any content that I post. My content is hearby copyrighted. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 10:59:04 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pay the 20 bucks a month and never see another ad again? We all fell for this with the cable companies. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:24:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now I am getting ads on the "open in incognito window" So it looks like they figured out people were using that trick and are closing that loophole. Yeah, here too. After I started getting the warnings I switched from Adblock to uBlock Origin and happily sailed along watching ad-free YT videos for about a week. Today, the warnings started popping up. Went into "Options" and cleared cache and reloaded filters and for another couple of hours was able to watch vids with no ads. But the good times didn't last. Got yet another warning pop-up. Fuck it. Ads it is. I'm not paying these leftist fucks $14/month. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:31:08 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We all fell for this with the cable companies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pay the 20 bucks a month and never see another ad again? We all fell for this with the cable companies. No shit... no ads! Just kidding! |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 9:19:23 PM EDT
[#29]
Fadblock is working great over here. Went from locked out of youtube (Got my 3 strikes warning), to videos playing with no disruption.
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Posted: 11/2/2023 9:23:29 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: BZZZZZTTT WRONG. Creators make money based on bullshit leftist ideals that are arbitrary and capricious and run by a bunch of tranny blue hairs that hate themselves, men, and the USA that changes at a whim for reasons that are up to and including no reason at all. Youtube = leftist cunts. If they wanted to be treated fairly, they should treat others fairly. Jesus tells them this, they don't listen and continue to be cunts. LOL 
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Posted: 11/2/2023 10:00:24 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm gonna go use Brave to ask Youtube to show me a video.
I'm gonna use Brave to refuse Youtube permission to show me ads. If Youtube still provides the video, how am I responsible for their decision to do so? "Hey stranger, pay me a dollar for a magic trick." "Foole, show me a magic trick for free." -foole performs magic trick for free- Random bystander: "OmG! yOu sToLe a DoLlAr fRoM tHe FoOlE!!"  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 12:39:28 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fadblock is working great over here. Went from locked out of youtube (Got my 3 strikes warning), to videos playing with no disruption. How about now? It turned to shit on me demanding new permissions (so I can pay them), and stopped working. I removed it. |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 12:41:57 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How about now? It turned to shit on me demanding new permissions (so I can pay them), and stopped working. I removed it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fadblock is working great over here. Went from locked out of youtube (Got my 3 strikes warning), to videos playing with no disruption. How about now? It turned to shit on me demanding new permissions (so I can pay them), and stopped working. I removed it. Fadblock is still working, ads are being skipped instantly, it did ask me to upgrade permissions this morning, but not asking for payment. |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 1:21:37 PM EDT
[#34]
Fadblock has been working for me for almost two weeks.
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Posted: 11/7/2023 10:37:51 AM EDT
[#35]
 YouTube's adblock war is backfiring in the worst way possible ?? Links on page: https://www.androidauthority.com/youtube-ad-block-installs-3382289/ https://www.wired.com/story/youtubes-ad-blocker-crackdown-spurs-record-uninstalls/ |
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Posted: 11/7/2023 11:01:39 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fadblock has been working for me for almost two weeks. This. The only difference maybe, and it could be my imagination, is it seems like the ads go by slower the last day or two, like they zip by in one second instead of a half of a second.
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Posted: 11/7/2023 11:09:46 AM EDT
[#37]
I just switched back to Firefox with adblock. Apparently this is specific to Googles YouTube service accessed from Googles Chrome using Googles Playstore Adblocking Apps.
Dump Google's browser, and problem solved. |
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Posted: 11/7/2023 2:33:54 PM EDT
[#38]
I logged out and blocked all cookies for YouTube weeks ago and still working
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Posted: 11/7/2023 3:01:56 PM EDT
[#39]
I think YouTube is backing off the adblockers effort after seeing very negative results in the metrics.
One thing to note about the internet advertising ecosystem; ad fraud is a feature, not a bug. In this instance, I think YouTube discovered that it was actually getting paid for some of the ads that weren't rendered. (It's happened before at scale on YT and other major ad platforms). I'll have to check with some friends still in the industry to see what happened to their campaign metrics over the time period. |
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Posted: 11/7/2023 3:08:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I have to use a different browser to watch youtube I will. Any issue logging into your youtube account on other browsers? So far, I can still close the popup. But once I can not close it, then other measures will be taken. |
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Posted: 11/7/2023 3:34:56 PM EDT
[#41]
 YouTube Ads Are Getting Insane and I Hate It. Use a browser that doesn't build on the Chrome engine + ad blocker |
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Posted: 11/11/2023 5:27:03 PM EDT
[#42]
Well, Fadblock is no longer working.
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Posted: 11/14/2023 8:39:55 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, Fadblock is no longer working. FadBlock just stopped working on two different computers with Firefox this morning. It was working fine last night.
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Posted: 11/14/2023 8:45:56 AM EDT
[#44]
Sounds like it is a war of attrition.
Youtube does something then the adblockers counter it. Youtube does something else, then the adblockers counter it. I do agree with the above video where the guy says it is backfiring on them and they are simply helping make adblockers better and also opening may peoples eyes to that there is such a thing as adblockers. I have actually been surprised at how many people do not know they even exist. |
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Posted: 11/14/2023 8:46:48 AM EDT
[#45]
I uninstalled FadBlock, updated UBlock Origin and turned Youtube blocking back on in it. No ads now.
 I'll probably try FadBlock again in a few days with a fresh install to see if it starts working. I liked the idea of content creators getting paid because you "watched" the ads. Without an ad blocker I wouldn't be watching the video anyway so no one is losing anything by me using a regular ad blocker.. |
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Posted: 11/14/2023 8:50:50 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like it is a war of attrition. Youtube does something then the adblockers counter it. Youtube does something else, then the adblockers counter it. I do agree with the above video where the guy says it is backfiring on them and they are simply helping make adblockers better and also opening may peoples eyes to that there is such a thing as adblockers. I have actually been surprised at how many people do not know they even exist. This. I have been amazed at the number comments here on this or that link being full of ads, or for that matter, the non members here complaining about the ads here. I would have thought by now most would have been forced to use an ad blocker. I've been using one for MANY years. |
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Posted: 11/14/2023 3:12:05 PM EDT
[#47]
Fadblock 2.5 is working now.
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Posted: 11/14/2023 5:21:33 PM EDT
[#48]
All of a sudden YT is not giving me the black screen telling me to allow ads. I have not changed anything on my end.
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Posted: 11/14/2023 5:42:37 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would sympathize with Google/Youtube if their content to ad ratio wasn't so out of wack. When you have to watch a 2 minute commercial for a 5 minute video then have to watch another set of commercials if you stop 30 seconds in is over the top annoying. I get they need to make money and that Google is an advertisement company, not a tech company but it's gotten out of control. I started blocking ads and other objectionable material when they became a threat to my computer &/or just way too many of them. It's easier and safer to block them at some point. The more they add and the more they force it the more they get people to run adblockers or turn to the competition. The internet is littered with companies that were too huge to go away until they were gone. |
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Posted: 11/14/2023 5:53:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not a free service. All the rest of your little diatribe here tries to dance around that fact, but you're wrong. It's a paid for service where you're circumventing the paid part, hence it's theft of service at best. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How is watching a free service stealing? That is the same old anti-piracy BS from the 80's. Artists would strangle their own mother get their songs played on the radio that anyone could listen to 100% free, but if you wanted to RECORD it and play it again for yourself, suddenly you were the worst, most villanous pirate. If someone hacks a netflix account, yeah, thats stealing, but youtube is free, and the vast bulk of its content is NOT monetized so nobody is missing out on any revenue. But, but, advertisers PAY for ads injected into video - yeah well they pay for bilboards too and I don't look at them either. The worst part is its always the same dozen ads for people with Bad skin, Diabetes and HIV positive folks. None of these apply to me. If I want to watch obese or alternative lifestyle people dancing, I know plenty of websites. Besides I couldn't buy their products if I wanted to, so it literally is a waste of my time and data (site resources anyone?). Technically by reducing the amount of data that youtube, etc. delivers, Adblocking saves $$. It's not a free service. All the rest of your little diatribe here tries to dance around that fact, but you're wrong. It's a paid for service where you're circumventing the paid part, hence it's theft of service at best. People have been finding ways to skip ads for many years. (I started to type adds and people find ways to skip those too!) If they're going to offer ads it's fair game to skip the ads if you can. It's also valid to go to another service that doesn't have an annoying level of ads. |
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