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Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:18:33 AM EDT
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Come on BOSS, civil disobedience for the win?
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I'm not even through page 3 yet and these comments have me dumbfounded that some of you guys go out in the real world
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:20:41 AM EDT
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No, I wont. it was a question, not an accusation...hence the question mark. Again, maybe you should take your reading is fundamental advice.
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Gee guy, I know this already.  I was responding to the bake a cake assertion which you seemed to double down on.  It is not the same i.e. not a true analogy if the store owner doesn't want people barred from service for wearing a Trump shirt.
I haven't been talking anywhere in this thread about baking cakes.  The poster I responded to was (probably as an analogy I assume).  I've been talking about trespassing.

Reading is fundamental.  Clearly you aren't reading my posts.  It's hard to have a conversation with someone if they don't read what you actually say.
lol you quoted his post and said that is true and went on about white knighting.  Maybe you should take your own advice and take better care of what you're quoting.  As to trespassing, any cop who was worth a shit and not lazy would be able to solve this without citing the customer or putting him on trespass notice if the owner confirmed the clerk was not acting in good faith.  If you're citing the guy or giving notice without at least attempting to contact him or the manager, you're a shitty cop.  Let me guess, you're a nevertrumper?
Most likely this whole display of human stupidity would be resolved by Trump shirt leaving.  Case closed.  On to more important things.  If they both wanted to pursue it (and both are clearly morons) then two citations resolves it for the time being.

Please post links to me being a nevertrumper.  Feel free to pull from any portion of this site.  You know that whole ASSuming thing?
It was a question due to them outing themselves in every thread about anything involving Trump with intellectual dishonesty and cognitive dissonance. It would be much easier and better police work if the cop showed some initiative and solved it right there given time and opportunity.
Put up or shut up.  You made the accusation.  Now prove it.  Or, withdraw it.
No, I wont. it was a question, not an accusation...hence the question mark. Again, maybe you should take your reading is fundamental advice.
Ok so you make accusations without evidence.  Noted.  Goodbye.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:21:24 AM EDT
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That was awesome.  Complete and utter meltdown from a t-shirt.  
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:21:29 AM EDT
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Jeezus.

Good thing he wasn't gay at a Christian bakery . . .
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:21:38 AM EDT
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LMAO

You still don't get it.

He was the agent of the owner, the apparent only one at the time. He told the man to leave. Said man refused. Said man therefore was trespassing under the law. Period.

Does not matter what the owner stated later about how he wished HIS CHOSEN agent should have acted.
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Well gee, I guess he wasn't acting on the wishes of his employer after all.
LMAO

You still don't get it.

He was the agent of the owner, the apparent only one at the time. He told the man to leave. Said man refused. Said man therefore was trespassing under the law. Period.

Does not matter what the owner stated later about how he wished HIS CHOSEN agent should have acted.
He won't understand.  Don't even bother trying to explain.  He's just confused.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:21:41 AM EDT
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Watch the video again.

It would seem by the ginger's answers, the manager is telling him to serve the guy.  And the ginger is saying no.
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Cashier cannot kick out customers, the manager/owner can.
lol here we go again.
Watch the video again.

It would seem by the ginger's answers, the manager is telling him to serve the guy.  And the ginger is saying no.
Customer also asked to speak to a manager.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:22:21 AM EDT
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When assholes collide.

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Not really an asshole when someone loses their mind over a t-shirt, screams at you, and calls you racist.   His response was pretty measured IMO.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:23:47 AM EDT
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I'm not even through page 3 yet and these comments have me dumbfounded that some of you guys go out in the real world
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Come on BOSS, civil disobedience for the win?
I'm not even through page 3 yet and these comments have me dumbfounded that some of you guys go out in the real world
@Rogueboss

Come on BOSS, you know I am normal
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:24:42 AM EDT
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This thread has the most ignorant comments/bad legal advice I've seen this year.

CONGRATS GD!
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Let's not rush to judgement on this one, there are still 3 more days left.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:25:06 AM EDT
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Trump shirt wearer is trespassing.

Entitled prick thinks he can force a private business to sell him things. lol.

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Couple of real winners.
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Is the dash-- the new underscore?
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:25:14 AM EDT
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Says the ginger soyboy got fired for being abusive to the customer. Good firing.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:25:22 AM EDT
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Ok so you make accusations without evidence.  Noted.  Goodbye.
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Gee guy, I know this already.  I was responding to the bake a cake assertion which you seemed to double down on.  It is not the same i.e. not a true analogy if the store owner doesn't want people barred from service for wearing a Trump shirt.
I haven't been talking anywhere in this thread about baking cakes.  The poster I responded to was (probably as an analogy I assume).  I've been talking about trespassing.

Reading is fundamental.  Clearly you aren't reading my posts.  It's hard to have a conversation with someone if they don't read what you actually say.
lol you quoted his post and said that is true and went on about white knighting.  Maybe you should take your own advice and take better care of what you're quoting.  As to trespassing, any cop who was worth a shit and not lazy would be able to solve this without citing the customer or putting him on trespass notice if the owner confirmed the clerk was not acting in good faith.  If you're citing the guy or giving notice without at least attempting to contact him or the manager, you're a shitty cop.  Let me guess, you're a nevertrumper?
Most likely this whole display of human stupidity would be resolved by Trump shirt leaving.  Case closed.  On to more important things.  If they both wanted to pursue it (and both are clearly morons) then two citations resolves it for the time being.

Please post links to me being a nevertrumper.  Feel free to pull from any portion of this site.  You know that whole ASSuming thing?
It was a question due to them outing themselves in every thread about anything involving Trump with intellectual dishonesty and cognitive dissonance. It would be much easier and better police work if the cop showed some initiative and solved it right there given time and opportunity.
Put up or shut up.  You made the accusation.  Now prove it.  Or, withdraw it.
No, I wont. it was a question, not an accusation...hence the question mark. Again, maybe you should take your reading is fundamental advice.
Ok so you make accusations without evidence.  Noted.  Goodbye.
lol see ya!
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:25:22 AM EDT
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I think we have already established that if a Christian baker has to make a gay wedding cake for a gay couple pretty much anything goes!
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What are you on about? The Christian baker won in the Supreme Court.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:26:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:27:12 AM EDT
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Trump shirt wearer is trespassing.

Entitled prick thinks he can force a private business to sell him things. lol.

Ginger boy is meltdown central.

Couple of real winners.
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Yup. My thoughts as well.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:29:52 AM EDT
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Lets flip the script:

Pro-Trump store clerk
No manager on duty
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Clerk asks the person to leave
Hillary supporter refuses

I can almost guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of the people on this site would say that the clerk should call the police and have person cited for trespassing and a large group of people here would say that it is ok to physically remove the Hillary supporter.

If I were the clerk I would:
Call the police
Tell them the police person is trespassing as they are refusing to leave
Have the police tell them to leave or be cited
The Hillary supporter chooses their own fate
I go on with my life

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Disagree. GD is often hypocritical but I don't think so in this case. Maybe a few, but not the majority.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:31:34 AM EDT
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He won't understand.  Don't even bother trying to explain.  He's just confused.
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Well gee, I guess he wasn't acting on the wishes of his employer after all.
LMAO

You still don't get it.

He was the agent of the owner, the apparent only one at the time. He told the man to leave. Said man refused. Said man therefore was trespassing under the law. Period.

Does not matter what the owner stated later about how he wished HIS CHOSEN agent should have acted.
He won't understand.  Don't even bother trying to explain.  He's just confused.
So what am I confused about?  You have said nothing I didn't already know. I have pretty much spelled out my position to you which mainly involved a hypothetical LE response and determining intent.  Your take was lazy, don't like it?  Then one shouldn't be a lazy cop....generally speaking of course.  Don't want you to get your panties in a twist again.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:34:58 AM EDT
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Typical #nevertumpeter.

Screen name?
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:35:14 AM EDT
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I don't think Trump voter is a protected class.
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But I can make someone bake me a gay cake, amirite?
I don't think Trump voter is a protected class.
Race, color, religious creed or national origin.

Maybe?
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:36:12 AM EDT
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That's one ugly motherfucker
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:37:56 AM EDT
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Good. Business is business plain and simple, and that employee’s behavior was simply embarrassing, not reflecting any sort of professionalism at all regardless of anything else.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:39:58 AM EDT
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Lets flip the script:

Pro-Trump store clerk
No manager on duty
Hillary shirt wearing person comes in
Clerk asks the person to leave
Hillary supporter refuses

I can almost guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of the people on this site would say that the clerk should call the police and have person cited for trespassing and a large group of people here would say that it is ok to physically remove the Hillary supporter.

If I were the clerk I would:
Call the police
Tell them the police person is trespassing as they are refusing to leave
Have the police tell them to leave or be cited
The Hillary supporter chooses their own fate
I go on with my life

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The problem with that is Pro-Tump business person would never act like an insane antifa liberal.  The Trump person would allow the transaction to take
place and go on with their life.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:40:34 AM EDT
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The problem with that is Pro-Tump business person would never act like an insane antifa liberal.  The Trump person would allow the transaction to take
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Lets flip the script:

Pro-Trump store clerk
No manager on duty
Hillary shirt wearing person comes in
Clerk asks the person to leave
Hillary supporter refuses

I can almost guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of the people on this site would say that the clerk should call the police and have person cited for trespassing and a large group of people here would say that it is ok to physically remove the Hillary supporter.

If I were the clerk I would:
Call the police
Tell them the police person is trespassing as they are refusing to leave
Have the police tell them to leave or be cited
The Hillary supporter chooses their own fate
I go on with my life

YMMV
The problem with that is Pro-Tump business person would never act like an insane antifa liberal.  The Trump person would allow the transaction to take
place and go on with their life.
Pro Trump business people typically like money.    They know better than to piss off half their potential customer base.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:48:20 AM EDT
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So far finished the replies on page one, but what the hell is up with the little girl scream.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:49:02 AM EDT
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I'm curious about the guys who are putting blame on the customer in this video. If you walked into a store, and were treated like that by an employee because they didn't like your shirt, are you really saying your response would be "Good day to you, sir!", and you'd leave? I'm not buying it, unless you really are the Right's soy-boy equivalent. I can't imagine letting someone shit on me like that and just walking out because "their rules". Fuck him, and fuck that.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:57:19 AM EDT
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Depends on the jurisdiction.  In DC and some other places political affiliation is a protected class under the local human rights act.  I prepared a CLE on the issue ages ago.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:58:29 AM EDT
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He was asked to leave and didn't. He's an asshole...
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SO sorry your princess LOST>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAGA!
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:04:35 AM EDT
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PING!!!!!!!!


And he might ought to be reported to the po po so he can't buy a gun.  Unstable....
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:09:18 AM EDT
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Is the dash-- the new underscore?
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Trump shirt wearer is trespassing.

Entitled prick thinks he can force a private business to sell him things. lol.

Ginger boy is meltdown central.

Couple of real winners.
Is the dash-- the new underscore?
The dash don't be silent...
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:20:03 AM EDT
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No, he said if he sold him it, he wouldn't call his boss and get him fired. Seemed like a fair trade.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:32:44 AM EDT
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Tucker, GA?  Not far from me, maybe I should put on my trump hat and shirt and pay that place a visit.

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Please video it if you do!!!!!!
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:35:21 AM EDT
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tds, he has it.

full blown case too.

here's my only beef:

when asked to leave, you leave. otherwise it's trespassing.

don't give these fuckers an 0.00000001"
just post video, call the media, cops, whatever. don't threaten.
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When did it become acceptable to give up all of your God given rights when you step into a buisness?
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:39:33 AM EDT
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When did it become acceptable to give up all of your God given rights when you step into a buisness?
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Please give an explanation using the Constitution and Bill of Rights as your source material (and you can use Supreme Court decisions if you like) to explain how a private business can force you to give up your "God given rights".

Which rights do you give up when entering a private business voluntarily?
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:48:36 AM EDT
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Good for Trump shirt dude, the haters will cede the union waiting for the left to engage in Marquess of Queensberry rules.

Obviously.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:51:51 AM EDT
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Kind of surprised the vape guy is employed maybe it's his stepdad's store
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I always thought the "reeeeeeeeee" stuff was exaggerated. I stand corrected.
Kind of surprised the vape guy is employed maybe it's his stepdad's store
Well, I have a cousin that had to fire his sister from the family business.  Hopefully he will soon be unemployed for not doing his job and selling a legal product to a customer.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:58:27 AM EDT
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Best line to me was right near the end.  "He's still your president."
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Wow.  
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Trump shirt wearer is trespassing.

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Bake that cake! It goes both ways.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 2:08:35 AM EDT
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Bake. My. Fucking. Cake. 13'er.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 2:11:17 AM EDT
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and for GD, classically...

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Link Posted: 12/29/2018 2:13:58 AM EDT
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Bet the shop owner is pissed.  That’s what you get for hiring ginger cucks.
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Bake that cake! It goes both ways.
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Trump shirt wearer is trespassing.

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Ginger boy is meltdown central.

Couple of real winners.
Bake that cake! It goes both ways.
I guess you didn't get the news. Here it is.   June 2018 decision.  7-2.

"The Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Colorado baker who declined to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony.

The case – Masterpiece Cakeshop, Ltd v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission – asked the high court to balance the religious rights of the baker against the couple’s right to equal treatment under the law. Similar disputes have popped up across the U.S."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/supreme-court-decides-colorado-gay-wedding-cake-case-a-timeline-of-events
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 2:18:25 AM EDT
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That store was huge. Look at the back. It goes on into infinity.
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Please give an explanation using the Constitution and Bill of Rights as your source material (and you can use Supreme Court decisions if you like) to explain how a private business can force you to give up your "God given rights".

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Please give an explanation using the Constitution and Bill of Rights as your source material (and you can use Supreme Court decisions if you like) to explain how a private business can force you to give up your "God given rights".

Which rights do you give up when entering a private business voluntarily?
In case you didn't know we are at war with the left.

This is how you win the culture war.
This is what it looks like on the front lines of the culture war.

You can say he was trespassing all you want. Until he is charged with trespassing it legally doesn't matter.

People with your mind set is why we are losing. It's why in 25 years we want even recognize this country anymore unless we fight.
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Bet the shop owner is pissed.  That's what you get for hiring ginger cucks.
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And on the other end of the vape shop employee spectrum LOL

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Shopping-at-local-store-and-notice-manager-owner-wearing-this-Nazi-related-/5-2154634/
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tds, he has it.

full blown case too.

here's my only beef:

when asked to leave, you leave. otherwise it's trespassing.

don't give these fuckers an 0.00000001"
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Unfortunately, I think this is what it would come down to in the State of GA.

Wonder if and when the pendulum will swing the other way though.
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If the black dude pulled out his bunker buster and told the gay ginger guy to suck it.
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In case you didn't know we are at war with the left.

This is how you win the culture war.
This is what it looks like on the front lines of the culture war.

You can say he was trespassing all you want. Until he is charged with trespassing it legally doesn't matter.

People with your mind set is why we are losing. It's why in 25 years we want even recognize this country anymore unless we fight.
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You don't make things better by acting like a fool.  It just alienates people from your position.  Imagine if your hero in this case allowed the clerk to screech uncontrollably and then walked out as asked.  Then, contact the owner.....post the video if he wanted to.  The owner may be a good guy who just hired a dumbass.  Now the Trump shirt wearing tard made Trump supporters look like fools.  Stupid behavior on the part of so called conservatives won't win anyone over.  Stupid behavior on the part of liberals is the best chance for us to convince the majority of fence sitters to look away from liberals.  Behaving just as stupidly as the liberal side does us no favors.

Also, side note....there are lots of things that are crimes that ultimately can only be prosecuted if there is a willing victim in prosecution.  Doesn't mean a crime wasn't occurring and if LE has a reasonable belief that a crime was occurring, they can take enforcement action.  The Supreme Court has already weighed in on this.....recently.

Booze, drugs, strippers -- and trespassing, Supreme Court says

WASHINGTON – "Peaches" got creamed at the Supreme Court Monday.

The justices ruled unanimously that District of Columbia police were within their rights to arrest 21 partygoers for trespassing and disorderly conduct in 2008 at a boozy bachelor party hosted by a woman named Peaches.

Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that police made an "entirely reasonable inference" that those attending the party, which featured booze, drugs and strippers, knew they shouldn't be there because the home was vacant and in disarray.

"The living room had been converted into a makeshift strip club," he wrote. "Strippers in bras and thongs, with cash stuffed in their garter belts, were giving lap dances. Upstairs, the officers found a group of men with a single, naked woman on a bare mattress — the only bed in the house — along with multiple open condom wrappers and a used condom.

"Taken together, the condition of the house and the conduct of the party-goers allowed the officers to make several 'common-sense conclusions about human behavior.' "

Furthermore, Thomas said, there was the problem of "a bachelor party without a bachelor."

The case is important in setting a precedent for what police can and cannot do when confronted with similar situations. Here, a federal jury awarded $680,000 to the partygoers who sued the district after the arrests, and a federal appeals court upheld the verdict.

While the court's judgment was unanimous, Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor said it need not have backed the police department's version of events.

"The court’s jurisprudence, I am concerned, sets the balance too heavily in favor of police unaccountability to the detriment of Fourth Amendment protection," Ginsburg wrote.

When the case was heard during the first week of the court's 2017 term in October, several justices showed their age. Justice Stephen Breyer, 79, said it's no longer uncommon for young people to show up for a party without knowing all the details — as opposed to during "the Middle Ages, with which I am more familiar."

Justice Elena Kagan, 57, recalled parties she was invited to "long, long ago" where "marijuana was maybe present" and attendees didn't always know the host.

The details were so tantalizing that after nearly an hour's debate, Justice Samuel Alito, 67, asked an obvious question. "Just out of curiosity," he said, "who is the bachelor at this bachelor party?"

Even that was unclear to many celebrants, said their lawyer, Nathaniel Garrett.

"So Peaches is the host at a bachelor party," Justice Anthony Kennedy, 81, mused.

In his opinion for the court, Thomas cut into Peaches:

"When the officers spoke with Peaches, she was nervous, agitated, and evasive," he wrote. "After initially insisting that she had permission to use the house, she ultimately confessed that this was a lie — a fact that the owner confirmed. Peaches’ lying and evasive behavior gave the officers reason to discredit everything she had told them."
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