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Posted: 1/6/2012 1:51:46 PM EST

[#1]

I'm surprised the officer reacted that way with the security camera right there.

Posted: 1/6/2012 2:08:55 PM EST

[#2]

Lucky it wasnt Chuck friggin Norris or she would have woke up in 1869

Posted: 1/6/2012 2:29:44 PM EST

[#3]

Probably shouldn't of kicked her in the head. That said, give him a one day unpaid vacation and a slip of paper in his file and move on.

Posted: 1/6/2012 2:35:48 PM EST

[#4]

Quoted:

Not guilty.

Prediction or outcome?

I predict a not guilty.

I agree. It says that he waived his right to a trial by jury. I think he made a good choice.

Posted: 1/6/2012 2:37:46 PM EST

[#5]

Quoted:

Guy judo kicked her and went back to writing the citation like it was nothing.

That was the part that made me LOL.

Posted: 1/6/2012 2:40:24 PM EST

[#6]

Quoted:
They should both face assault charges.

+1

She's restrained, is unable to put up any meaningful resistance. Cop is supposed to be professional. I'd expect him to back up and add assaulting an officer to the booking charges.

Posted: 1/6/2012 3:26:38 PM EST

[#7]

The woman, although certainly verbally abusive, drunk, and obnoxious was cuffed, shoeless, and seated. There's NO WAY she posed any threat to the cop. BTW, the cop just barely managed to keep his real, department job after punching out a jogger not long ago.

We pay––and train–– police officers to respond appropriately to circumstances. This guy was clearly out of line, and is VERY likely to be found guilty at his trial. After that, and for good measure, the civil lawsuit against him and his employer at the time, namely the casino, is certain to follow.

Not to mention that this guy was STUPID enough to do this while being taped. Either way you cut it, he shouldn't have either a gun or a badge.

This woman hit the jackpot, all right, just not in the usual way.

Posted: 1/6/2012 3:36:06 PM EST

[#8]

I laughed...

I like how he went right back to what he was doing.

I'm surprised that so many of you think it was excessive force. He made her stop and did not keep beating on her.

Just one nicely place pop to the cheek. If a suspect was in cuffs and standing there and decided to cause a problem

I'm sure they would get face-planted right into the sidewalk.

Posted: 1/6/2012 3:38:37 PM EST

[#9]

Quoted:

He should have taken a step back and then charged her with assault.

He done fucked up.

It was pretty funny, though.

Yep. Excessive force. I've had people kick at me, spit on me, and try to bite me while I had them in cuffs. Because THEY ARE IN CUFFS I wasn't justified in kicking them. Really...it's not rocket science. Force continuum and all that.

Posted: 1/6/2012 3:42:02 PM EST

[#10]

Quoted:
The woman, although certainly verbally abusive, drunk, and obnoxious was cuffed, shoeless, and seated. There's NO WAY she posed any threat to the cop. BTW, the cop just barely managed to keep his real, department job after punching out a jogger not long ago.

We pay––and train–– police officers to respond appropriately to circumstances. This guy was clearly out of line, and is VERY likely to be found guilty at his trial. After that, and for good measure, the civil lawsuit against him and his employer at the time, namely the casino, is certain to follow.

Not to mention that this guy was STUPID enough to do this while being taped. Either way you cut it, he shouldn't have either a gun or a badge.

This woman hit the jackpot, all right, just not in the usual way.

Great post. You said it better than I could have.

Posted: 1/6/2012 4:01:18 PM EST

[#11]

Bitch deserved it!

Posted: 1/6/2012 4:30:35 PM EST

[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I wish bad things to happen to that man. He is not better than anyone else who hits a woman. If the piece of shit wouldn't be wearing a badge all of you apologists would be thumping your chests saying how much of a pussy he is for hitting a woman. Fuck him. He doesn't deserve to be a police officer. Pussy.

Someone has never arrested a noncompliant female if they think gender has anything to do with use of force.

No, but I've had to subdue a pissed off girlfriend before because she walked in on me with another chick and I was able to do so without striking her.

He is a pussy and so is anyone else who hits an unarmed, let alone handcuffed woman.

Oh ye of moral consistency.

Nice.

Posted: 1/6/2012 6:44:05 PM EST

[#13]

Posted: 1/6/2012 7:42:55 PM EST

[#14]

Quoted:

Not guilty.

Prediction or outcome?

I predict a not guilty.

I agree. It says that he waived his right to a trial by jury. I think he made a good choice.

Or an all female jury.

Either way he's going to get fired.

Posted: 1/6/2012 8:02:05 PM EST

[#15]

Quoted:
Bitch deserved it!

After watching the video, I agree. She seemed to be looking for a fight.

I'm not so sure that it was smart of that officer to deliver it, though. I suspect the kick wasn't really much of a hit, but it looks severe, and that's what will matter.
If he did give her a full-on kick then IMHO he went overboard. I can't tell from the vid, though.

Posted: 1/7/2012 6:01:54 AM EST

[#16]

Quoted:

Not guilty.

Prediction or outcome?

I predict a not guilty.

I agree. It says that he waived his right to a trial by jury. I think he made a good choice.

Or an all female jury.

Either way he's going to get fired.

It'd be a good start. Hopefully a civil suit follows.

Posted: 1/7/2012 6:54:56 AM EST

[#17]

Really?

Fire that motherfucker...

Posted: 1/7/2012 8:20:29 AM EST

[#18]

Nothing to see here...move along.

.

Posted: 1/7/2012 9:19:17 AM EST

[#19]

Quoted:
The cuffs were on. She should have been controlled, not struck.

This. Prone her out, zip tie her legs, put her in a patrol car. No excuse for focused blows at that point, certainly not a boot to the head.

Posted: 1/7/2012 10:27:00 AM EST

[#20]

Quoted:
Exactly WHAT DO YOU EXPECT will happen if you kick a cop?

Sheezuz.

To have an additional charge to face in court... what do YOU expect to happen?

Posted: 1/7/2012 10:29:13 AM EST

[#21]

I laughed... she deserved it.

At the same time, the officer went too far and should face repercussions.

It really didn't look like that hard of a kick, but it's still not something to do to a handcuffed person sitting down. Write up an additional charge and let the judicial system handle it.

Posted: 1/7/2012 10:29:29 AM EST

[#22]

Quoted:

He should have taken a step back and then charged her with assault.

He done fucked up.

It was pretty funny, though.

Posted: 1/7/2012 10:36:33 AM EST

[#23]

Quoted:

Really?

Fire that motherfucker...

this. JBT's like this are what make people hate cops more and more. thankfully these thugs get caught more and more on camera.

Posted: 1/7/2012 1:59:19 PM EST

[#24]

Quoted:
It'd be a good start. Hopefully a civil suit follows.

Oh, she is going to sue. I bet a lawyer has papers already drawn up.

Posted: 1/7/2012 3:14:31 PM EST

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It'd be a good start. Hopefully a civil suit follows.

Oh, she is going to sue. I bet a lawyer has papers already drawn up.

One can only hope. It's unfortunate that the officer in question will (hopefully) be learning a lesson in restraint from the legal system, but he most definitely earned it by acting in anger.

Posted: 1/7/2012 3:27:11 PM EST

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It'd be a good start. Hopefully a civil suit follows.

Oh, she is going to sue. I bet a lawyer has papers already drawn up.

One can only hope. It's unfortunate that the officer in question will (hopefully) be learning a lesson in restraint from the legal system, but he most definitely earned it by acting in anger.

Ehhh, 10 maybe 15k, lawyer get's half.

ETA: IMO, that was not anger it was basically a reflex to being kicked.

Posted: 1/7/2012 3:36:38 PM EST

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It'd be a good start. Hopefully a civil suit follows.

Oh, she is going to sue. I bet a lawyer has papers already drawn up.

One can only hope. It's unfortunate that the officer in question will (hopefully) be learning a lesson in restraint from the legal system, but he most definitely earned it by acting in anger.

Ehhh, 10 maybe 15k, lawyer get's half.

ETA: IMO, that was not anger it was basically a reflex to being kicked.

I admit that it's very possible that it was a reflexive move. It was still very wrong to do, and perhaps better training and a better attitude on the officer's part would have prevented him from being in the predicament that he is now in.

Posted: 1/7/2012 3:49:39 PM EST

[#28]

I believe the additional charge of simple assault would not be an effective deterrence. The immediate kick to the head served as an effective deterrence. No more agressive behavior was observed. I don't give a shit about people's feelings in this regard. Oh noes! She's a woman, he should have mroe restraint. Bullshit.

Posted: 1/7/2012 3:57:52 PM EST

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It'd be a good start. Hopefully a civil suit follows.

Oh, she is going to sue. I bet a lawyer has papers already drawn up.

One can only hope. It's unfortunate that the officer in question will (hopefully) be learning a lesson in restraint from the legal system, but he most definitely earned it by acting in anger.

Ehhh, 10 maybe 15k, lawyer get's half. "go away" appeaser $$$

ETA: IMO, that was not anger it was basically a reflex to being kicked.

Agree 100%

FWIW......if he would have hesitated for a few seconds,......then hauled off and kicked her, I'd be the first to say: "Fuck him, fire and charge him." But, that isn't what happened there. he reacted to her kicking him. The only reason he got charged and is because it is easier for the DA and his Administration to "throw him under the bus" and appease the pussification of America crowd.

Stupid should hurt........kick someone....get kicked back. "Plant corn - get corn."

Posted: 1/7/2012 3:58:55 PM EST

[#30]

Quoted:
I believe the additional charge of simple assault would not be an effective deterrence. The immediate kick to the head served as an effective deterrence. No more agressive behavior was observed. I don't give a shit about people's feelings in this regard. Oh noes! She's a woman, he should have mroe restraint. Bullshit.

Have you been trained on the Force Continuum (as it relates to your job in LE), proper behavior when dealing with handcuffed suspects, and how to ensure continued compliance of a suspect (without physically assaulting them)? The issue is not that she's a woman; the issue is that the suspect was restrained in cuffs and was not an immediate threat. Therefore, his kick was an excessive use of force and an EXTREME lack of judgement.

Posted: 1/7/2012 3:59:12 PM EST

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:

It'd be a good start. Hopefully a civil suit follows.

Oh, she is going to sue. I bet a lawyer has papers already drawn up.

One can only hope. It's unfortunate that the officer in question will (hopefully) be learning a lesson in restraint from the legal system, but he most definitely earned it by acting in anger.

Ehhh, 10 maybe 15k, lawyer get's half. "go away" appeaser $$$

ETA: IMO, that was not anger it was basically a reflex to being kicked.

Agree 100%

FWIW......if he would have hesitated for a few seconds,......then hauled off and kicked her, I'd be the first to say: "Fuck him, fire and charge him." But, that isn't what happened there. he reacted to her kicking him. The only reason he got charged and is because it is easier for the DA and his Administration to "throw him under the bus" and appease the pussification of America crowd.

Stupid should hurt........kick someone....get kicked back. "Plant corn - get corn."

STUPID SHOULD HURT! Sweet! Should be a sigline.

Posted: 1/7/2012 4:00:52 PM EST

[#32]

I am not a LEO, but I am foremost a human being and I don't care what "training" you have had. The woman was an idiot and recieved adequate reward for her stupidity. SHe may have even learned something useful. Your training makes YOU the recipient of more bullshit, not less.

Posted: 1/7/2012 4:01:22 PM EST

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It'd be a good start. Hopefully a civil suit follows.

Oh, she is going to sue. I bet a lawyer has papers already drawn up.

One can only hope. It's unfortunate that the officer in question will (hopefully) be learning a lesson in restraint from the legal system, but he most definitely earned it by acting in anger.

Ehhh, 10 maybe 15k, lawyer get's half. "go away" appeaser $$$

ETA: IMO, that was not anger it was basically a reflex to being kicked.

Agree 100%

FWIW......if he would have hesitated for a few seconds,......then hauled off and kicked her, I'd be the first to say: "Fuck him, fire and charge him." But, that isn't what happened there. he reacted to her kicking him. The only reason he got charged and is because it is easier for the DA and his Administration to "throw him under the bus" and appease the pussification of America crowd.

Stupid should hurt........kick someone....get kicked back. "Plant corn - get corn."

STUPID SHOULD HURT! Sweet! Should be a sigline.

Have at it

Posted: 1/7/2012 4:04:32 PM EST

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It'd be a good start. Hopefully a civil suit follows.

Oh, she is going to sue. I bet a lawyer has papers already drawn up.

One can only hope. It's unfortunate that the officer in question will (hopefully) be learning a lesson in restraint from the legal system, but he most definitely earned it by acting in anger.

Ehhh, 10 maybe 15k, lawyer get's half.

ETA: IMO, that was not anger it was basically a reflex to being kicked.

I admit that it's very possible that it was a reflexive move. It was still very wrong to do, and perhaps better training and a better attitude on the officer's part would have prevented him from being in the predicament that he is now in.

Another, ehhhh, we are trained to react, he appeared to have a reactive action to a stimulus. He didn't beat her down, draw back and go for the 50 yard field goal.

Posted: 1/7/2012 4:05:47 PM EST

[#35]

Quoted:
I am not a LEO, but I am foremost a human being and I don't care what "training" you have had. The woman was an idiot and recieved adequate reward for her stupidity. SHe may have even learned something useful. Your training makes YOU the recipient of more bullshit, not less.

I see. Well, if you don't understand that LEOs SHOULD be trained to exercise restraint, then I don't know what to tell you. I am very glad that you are not an LEO as you do not understand what restraint is.

Posted: 1/7/2012 4:10:36 PM EST

[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am not a LEO, but I am foremost a human being and I don't care what "training" you have had. The woman was an idiot and recieved adequate reward for her stupidity. SHe may have even learned something useful. Your training makes YOU the recipient of more bullshit, not less.

I see. Well, if you don't understand that LEOs SHOULD be trained to exercise restraint, then I don't know what to tell you. I am very glad that you are not an LEO as you do not understand what restraint is.

Well I am an LEO and I understand restraint. I also understand that I an human and will react to being kicked or punched.....and that is what happened here. As Bama stated: If he had paused and then ran up for the game winning field goal......I'd say fuck him......but EVERY SINGLE PERSON who watched that video knows that isn't what happened there.

I also know that I'm nobodys practice dummy.

Posted: 1/7/2012 4:13:03 PM EST

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am not a LEO, but I am foremost a human being and I don't care what "training" you have had. The woman was an idiot and recieved adequate reward for her stupidity. SHe may have even learned something useful. Your training makes YOU the recipient of more bullshit, not less.

I see. Well, if you don't understand that LEOs SHOULD be trained to exercise restraint, then I don't know what to tell you. I am very glad that you are not an LEO as you do not understand what restraint is.

Well I am an LEO and I understand restraint. I also understand that I an human and will react to being kicked or punched.....and that is what happened here. As Bama stated: If he had paused and then ran up for the game winning field goal......I'd say fuck him......but EVERY SINGLE PERSON who watched that video knows that isn't what happened there.

I also know that I'm nobodys practice dummy.

Is it bad that I imagined him kicking her in the head for a field goal, and her head detaching and going through the goal post?

Posted: 1/7/2012 4:17:02 PM EST

[#38]

I love it when assholes collide!

Posted: 1/8/2012 12:06:24 AM EST

[#39]

Hah.

He should probably get charged with simple assault.... kicking someone in handcuffs is a big no no.

She should face aggravated assault charges on top of her assault charges that she has already.

Posted: 1/8/2012 12:11:16 AM EST

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It'd be a good start. Hopefully a civil suit follows.

Oh, she is going to sue. I bet a lawyer has papers already drawn up.

I would if I was her.

Posted: 1/8/2012 12:14:07 AM EST

[#41]

Quoted:
The cuffs were on. She should have been controlled, not struck.

She's a freakin idiot for trying to kick a cop. He's an even bigger idiot for kicking an unarmed, restrained person in the face while they are sitting on the ground. What a piece of shit.

Posted: 1/8/2012 3:22:03 AM EST

[#42]

Quoted:

He is a professional and should act like one. That kick wan't necessary.

I disagree, Iwould have kicked her also, probably harder.

Posted: 1/8/2012 3:25:55 AM EST

[#43]

Quoted:

Guy judo kicked her and went back to writing the citation like it was nothing.

THIS FTW! I LOL

Posted: 1/8/2012 3:36:25 AM EST

[#44]

I laughed too.

NOT A COP BASHING STATEMENT:

yes she kicked first, but it really didn't warrant the elementary action of kicking back.
It is not as if she could apply any force or pain in a kick from that position unless that large cop is really just a pussy with a badge.

Posted: 1/8/2012 3:36:46 AM EST

[#45]

First Rule Of Kick Club.

Kick Me, get kicked back.

Posted: 1/8/2012 3:51:31 AM EST

[#46]

WOW look another PEACE OF SHIT COP.

http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/providence-lincoln-officer-had-assault-conviction

He was convicted of misdemeanor assault back in 2001 after he punched a man who was jogging with friends in Cumberland.

Chris McGill said Krawetz, who was off-duty and driving his own vehicle at the time, veered towards them and almost hit them.

Krawetz said one of those joggers flipped him off and 'got in his face' when Krawetz stopped, but McGill and other witnesses said Krawetz waved his badge and punched McGill. Krawetz's family was in the car with him when the confrontation occurred.

Looks like the the BLUE LINE PROTECTED ANOTHER ONE.

___________________________________________________________________________

If he had been fire and imprisoned in 2001 we would not be paying for his fuck up in 2011.

I want to know home many people this THUG (COP) has beaten while on duty and got away with it.

ETA: Better Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoQRdSFiDw&feature=related

To bad one of the joggers didn't have a CCW this would have been a self righting problem back in 2001.

Posted: 1/8/2012 4:13:03 AM EST

[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I am not a LEO, but I am foremost a human being and I don't care what "training" you have had. The woman was an idiot and recieved adequate reward for her stupidity. SHe may have even learned something useful. Your training makes YOU the recipient of more bullshit, not less.

I see. Well, if you don't understand that LEOs SHOULD be trained to exercise restraint, then I don't know what to tell you. I am very glad that you are not an LEO as you do not understand what restraint is.

Well I am an LEO and I understand restraint. I also understand that I an human and will react to being kicked or punched.....and that is what happened here. As Bama stated: If he had paused and then ran up for the game winning field goal......I'd say fuck him......but EVERY SINGLE PERSON who watched that video knows that isn't what happened there.

I also know that I'm nobodys practice dummy.

TOTAL BS check out the video I posted fucking cop tried to kick a field goal with her head.

Could have killed her.

Posted: 1/8/2012 4:29:50 AM EST

[#48]

I laughed. Play stupid games and all that.

However, a kick to the shin, barefoot, does not require a solid kick in the back of the head hard enough to put the lights out. Seems excessive to me. I have seen what solid blows to the noggin' can do, and it can be pretty damn bad. The risk of injury to the officer was far less than that of the woman, blow versus blow.

ETA:

According to the partner, from the video, the officer didn't even express concern for any injury to himself, or that his safety was ever in question. Didn't even further restrain her upon the incident. Sure doesn't sound like it was self defense.

It would be like me catching a slap from my SO, and me throwing a roundhouse kick to her head. I sure as hell couldn't claim self defense.

Posted: 1/8/2012 4:30:23 AM EST

[#49]

I believe he was not acting instinctually or reactively - if he was then he would have backed away / jumped away to evade while possibly delivering a kick - not nonchalantly continuing to write while punting her head. If he really felt threatened he would have moved to evade as well - that's a normal human reaction.

He was intentionally punishing her, and he went too far. That was a disproportionately hard blow and genuinely risked severely injuring her. Both parties were in the wrong entirely and both should be charged, and he and his employer should be sued. He should not be entrusted to enforce law / protect people. A person like that will abuse any position of authority.

-JC

Posted: 1/8/2012 4:41:18 AM EST

[#50]

Quoted:

Actually it is very specific.

Please enlighten us with your experience with use of force.

If I get slapped by a women in public, does UoF dictate I can use a roundhouse kick to the head in "self defense"? How about an uppercut right under the chin? Hell, even a solid jab right to the nose?

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