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Posted: 1/6/2012 10:15:41 AM EST

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Do you "look the other way" alot for your co-workers?

I'm retired but I would never look the other way if I felt someone did something violently wrong.

IMHO, that violent woman deserves no sympathy or pity.

Thank all the gods for that.

She doesn't deserve pity, but she didn't deserve to be assaulted either.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:15:46 AM EST

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1. I'm not a officer of the law, sworn to serve and protect. He is, and there fore should act as such.
2. she did not walk up to him and slap him hard in the face. She was seated and cuffed, as it was stated in this thread many times he chose his actions poorly, there were better options.
3. I don't normally put myself in positions that would drive anyone to "walk up and slap me in the face", but if I had, I would be mentally prepared for the outcome of my actions, which he clearly was not, because the judge believes, as I do, that he reacted inappropriately.

I've seen cuffed and seated people do serious damage.

That being said, policy usually indicates that you should the least force necessary to stop the threat. In this case, taking a step backwards probably would have done it for the officer. The kick to the face, while deserved, is not a professional or proportional reaction.

Anyway, I'm not feeling sorry for either of them really.

If someone sucker punches me, I just have to get them restrained, I don't get to punch back (unless it's necessary).

If someone sucker punches me then they will, without question, get healthy dose of hickory.........BTDYGTTS.

Damnation, crwdplsr, I was trying to be politically correct.

Had a guy the othe night that while attempting to arrest him.......it took 3 cops to "restrain" him.....while doing so he tried to bite me..........I broke his fucking nose. He didn't try to bite again.

Behavior modification.....how does it work?

You should be convicted for using excessive force!!

Funny part is.....after everything calmed down and he was released on bail.......he shook my hand and apologized and said: "I like you, you are old school."

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:17:04 AM EST

[#3]

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Do you "look the other way" alot for your co-workers?

I'm retired but I would never look the other way if I felt someone did something violently wrong.

IMHO, that violent woman deserves no sympathy or pity.

Thank all the gods for that.

She doesn't deserve pity, but she didn't deserve to be assaulted either.

I don't like you, BrowardMason.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:18:00 AM EST

[#4]

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Somebody kicks me they get kicked back.
Especially if she just punched another guy like she did in the casino.
Fuck her. She's a violent loon who needs her ass kicked.

True, but our job as police is not to hand out ass kickings to people who deserve them.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:19:06 AM EST

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Only a coward kicks a hand-cuffed person.

How about a tasering?

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:20:02 AM EST

[#6]

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1. I'm not a officer of the law, sworn to serve and protect. He is, and there fore should act as such.
2. she did not walk up to him and slap him hard in the face. She was seated and cuffed, as it was stated in this thread many times he chose his actions poorly, there were better options.
3. I don't normally put myself in positions that would drive anyone to "walk up and slap me in the face", but if I had, I would be mentally prepared for the outcome of my actions, which he clearly was not, because the judge believes, as I do, that he reacted inappropriately.

I've seen cuffed and seated people do serious damage.

That being said, policy usually indicates that you should the least force necessary to stop the threat. In this case, taking a step backwards probably would have done it for the officer. The kick to the face, while deserved, is not a professional or proportional reaction.

Anyway, I'm not feeling sorry for either of them really.

If someone sucker punches me, I just have to get them restrained, I don't get to punch back (unless it's necessary).

If someone sucker punches me then they will, without question, get healthy dose of hickory.........BTDYGTTS.

Damnation, crwdplsr, I was trying to be politically correct.

Had a guy the othe night that while attempting to arrest him.......it took 3 cops to "restrain" him.....while doing so he tried to bite me..........I broke his fucking nose. He didn't try to bite again.

Behavior modification.....how does it work?

You should be convicted for using excessive force!!

Funny part is.....after everything calmed down and he was released on bail.......he shook my hand and apologized and said: "I like you, you are old school."

Good break!

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:20:06 AM EST

[#7]

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Somebody kicks me they get kicked back.
Especially if she just punched another guy like she did in the casino.
Fuck her. She's a violent loon who needs her ass kicked.

True, but our job as police is not to hand out ass kickings to people who deserve them.

You mean like the Law Enforcement of yore used to do......the one that Arfcom GD longs for?

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:21:19 AM EST

[#8]

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Somebody kicks me they get kicked back.
Especially if she just punched another guy like she did in the casino.
Fuck her. She's a violent loon who needs her ass kicked.

True, but our job as police is not to hand out ass kickings to people who deserve them.

You mean like the Law Enforcement of yore used to do......the one that Arfcom GD longs for?

Yeah, I always get a kick out of guys here who want to return to the "good 'ole days" of law enforcement.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:21:22 AM EST

[#9]

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Do you "look the other way" alot for your co-workers?

I'm retired but I would never look the other way if I felt someone did something violently wrong.

IMHO, that violent woman deserves no sympathy or pity.

Thank all the gods for that.

She doesn't deserve pity, but she didn't deserve to be assaulted either.

I don't like you, BrowardMason.

I'm good with that.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:21:37 AM EST

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He already told you. He knows how to man-handle fiesty girlfriends without leaving any bruises.

Which certainly qualifies him to make decisions on UoF!

Nope, I just know how to neutralize a situation without EXCESSIVE force. In this case force was warranted, however the JBT's choice on the level of force used was more than necessary. Do you use a 50BMG for rabbit hunting? No.

I was a bouncer in college and was trained in UoF, CoF, and was Tactical Baton and Tactical Handcuff certified. I have broken up many a cat fight and had to "escort" and/or detain many a drunk person (man and woman) that was causing trouble. Blows were always a last resort and I pride myself in the fact that I hardly ever had to strike an individual to get them to comply with my "requests" to exit the establishment. I have been in many situations where JBTs like the one in the video would have beat the shit out of people they didn't have to.

Now I am! That sounds like fun!

Given that you have had to strike individuals, your statements imply that you would never have to strike a woman to gain compliance.

Can you clarify this?

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:22:00 AM EST

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Only a coward kicks a hand-cuffed person.

Is that a fact?

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:22:19 AM EST

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No, but I've had to subdue a pissed off girlfriend before because she walked in on me with another chick and I was able to do so without striking her.

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Yeah, that's how you win an argument about professionalism.

Silly people.

Yeah I already said he was screwed.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:22:32 AM EST

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Only a coward kicks a hand-cuffed person.

How about a tasering?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNX6MDktrRo

Lansing

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:23:02 AM EST

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Yeah, I always get a kick out of guys here who want to return to the "good 'ole days" of law enforcement.

Some days, I wish we could go back...sure would make me feel better.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:23:23 AM EST

[#15]

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Somebody kicks me they get kicked back.
Especially if she just punched another guy like she did in the casino.
Fuck her. She's a violent loon who needs her ass kicked.

True, but our job as police is not to hand out ass kickings to people who deserve them.

We need more out there like you, Extorris.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:24:58 AM EST

[#16]

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Somebody kicks me they get kicked back.

Especially if she just punched another guy like she did in the casino.

Fuck her. She's a violent loon who needs her ass kicked.

True, but our job as police is not to hand out ass kickings to people who deserve them.

We need more out there like you, Extorris.

I can die in peace. I have seen it all.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:27:38 AM EST

[#17]

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Somebody kicks me they get kicked back.
Especially if she just punched another guy like she did in the casino.
Fuck her. She's a violent loon who needs her ass kicked.

True, but our job as police is not to hand out ass kickings to people who deserve them.

We need more out there like you, Extorris.

I can die in peace. I have seen it all.

Now we need:

I'm not saying we need more like you...

.....But I'm saying we need more like you...

c'mon Extorris....c'mon....

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:27:54 AM EST

[#18]

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He already told you. He knows how to man-handle fiesty girlfriends without leaving any bruises.

Which certainly qualifies him to make decisions on UoF!

Nope, I just know how to neutralize a situation without EXCESSIVE force. In this case force was warranted, however the JBT's choice on the level of force used was more than necessary. Do you use a 50BMG for rabbit hunting? No.

I was a bouncer in college and was trained in UoF, CoF, and was Tactical Baton and Tactical Handcuff certified. I have broken up many a cat fight and had to "escort" and/or detain many a drunk person (man and woman) that was causing trouble. Blows were always a last resort and I pride myself in the fact that I hardly ever had to strike an individual to get them to comply with my "requests" to exit the establishment. I have been in many situations where JBTs like the one in the video would have beat the shit out of people they didn't have to.

Now I am! That sounds like fun!

Given that you have had to strike individuals, your statements imply that you would never have to strike a woman to gain compliance.

Can you clarify this?

I didn't say that, I said that I would not strike a woman (or man) in that situation.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:32:04 AM EST

[#19]

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He already told you. He knows how to man-handle fiesty girlfriends without leaving any bruises.

Which certainly qualifies him to make decisions on UoF!

Nope, I just know how to neutralize a situation without EXCESSIVE force. In this case force was warranted, however the JBT's choice on the level of force used was more than necessary. Do you use a 50BMG for rabbit hunting? No.

I was a bouncer in college and was trained in UoF, CoF, and was Tactical Baton and Tactical Handcuff certified. I have broken up many a cat fight and had to "escort" and/or detain many a drunk person (man and woman) that was causing trouble. Blows were always a last resort and I pride myself in the fact that I hardly ever had to strike an individual to get them to comply with my "requests" to exit the establishment. I have been in many situations where JBTs like the one in the video would have beat the shit out of people they didn't have to.

Now I am! That sounds like fun!

Given that you have had to strike individuals, your statements imply that you would never have to strike a woman to gain compliance.

Can you clarify this?

I didn't say that, I said that I would not strike a woman (or man) in that situation.

Me either.

But not for lack of wanting.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:34:44 AM EST

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We need more out there like you, Extorris.

My C.O. and my department would disagree with you on that one.

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Somebody kicks me they get kicked back.
Especially if she just punched another guy like she did in the casino.
Fuck her. She's a violent loon who needs her ass kicked.

True, but our job as police is not to hand out ass kickings to people who deserve them.

We need more out there like you, Extorris.

I can die in peace. I have seen it all.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:43:06 AM EST

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I wish bad things to happen to that man. He is not better than anyone else who hits a woman. If the piece of shit wouldn't be wearing a badge all of you apologists would be thumping your chests saying how much of a pussy he is for hitting a woman. Fuck him. He doesn't deserve to be a police officer. Pussy.

There is no such rule as "do not hit a woman".

There is "do not hit a LADY".

This woman is no lady.

The presence of a vagina does not exempt a person from consequences when they become violent.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:46:42 AM EST

[#22]

I broke out laughing at that one. Fuck that vile nasty bitch. Drunkard that is used to doing whatever she wants and getting away with it.

Lights out!!!

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:50:47 AM EST

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I wish bad things to happen to that man. He is not better than anyone else who hits a woman. If the piece of shit wouldn't be wearing a badge all of you apologists would be thumping your chests saying how much of a pussy he is for hitting a woman. Fuck him. He doesn't deserve to be a police officer. Pussy.

There is no such rule as "do not hit a woman".

There is "do not hit a LADY".

This woman is no lady.
The presence of a vagina does not exempt a person from consequences when they become violent.

You are right in a sense.

But she was also no threat to the officers safety and did not warrant that kind of reaction from him. I would have stepped back, laughed at her feeble attempt at trying to get my attention and then hog tied her stupid ass. And if you think that leg sweep was "becoming violent", you probably haven't been party to much physical altercation in your time.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:53:28 AM EST

[#24]

Ignoring that she's a woman, on the ground, and hardly has any leverage to swing her leg and she's already fucking handcuffed. The thing to do is charge her with assault on an officer, not slug her fucking face with your boot. Jesus, you all are real tough guys aren't you.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:54:52 AM EST

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No, but I've had to subdue a pissed off girlfriend before because she walked in on me with another chick and I was able to do so without striking her.

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Yeah, that's how you win an argument about professionalism.

Silly people.

Yeah I already said he was screwed.

Not you....mis-quote.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:55:48 AM EST

[#26]

I laughed....

how ever I dont think he should have kicked her in the head.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:55:50 AM EST

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He should have taken a step back and then charged her with assault.

He done fucked up.

It was pretty funny, though.

That would have been the smart thing to do, but all that officer did was show that he has as little intellect as the woman, and he is obviously a little pussy.

Really, who kicks a woman on the ground in handcuffs who apparently didn't hurt him very much at all. More or less a show of very excessive force and very excessive ignorance on his part more than hers.

She probably got in trouble for being stupid, so do you stand next to stupid people as much as possible when NOT properly restrained after you just arrested them knowing that they might be stupid again? Little things to think about like," What if this broad was so dumb that she tried to kick me while I was standing as close as I can to her?"

All you are doing is tempting fate. Stupid people are going to do stupid things, and one should try not to "one up" someone with more stupid.

Posted: 1/6/2012 10:58:16 AM EST

[#28]

While I do personally feel she deserved it. I can understand that some would see it as excessive. A little kick to the shin.. respond with a kick to the head... it's really not a proportional response. I think assault charges on the officer are also excessive.

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:05:00 AM EST

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He should have taken a step back and then charged her with assault.

He done fucked up.

It was pretty funny, though.

That would have been the smart thing to do, but all that officer did was show that he has as little intellect as the woman, and he is obviously a little pussy.

Really, who kicks a woman on the ground in handcuffs who apparently didn't hurt him very much at all. More or less a show of very excessive force and very excessive ignorance on his part more than hers.

She probably got in trouble for being stupid, so do you stand next to stupid people as much as possible when NOT properly restrained after you just arrested them knowing that they might be stupid again? Little things to think about like," What if this broad was so dumb that she tried to kick me while I was standing as close as I can to her?"

All you are doing is tempting fate. Stupid people are going to do stupid things, and one should try not to "one up" someone with more stupid.

That's it though. The other problem is that so many cops think they are the anthropomorphism of the law and above it, not there to enforce it. Judge Dredd complex coupled with little cock syndrome. "I AM THE LAW"

If she would have "kicked" a bystander in that fashion, he probably doesn't react that way, but since he is the almighty, she gets a Jack Boot to the face. It's funny how disproportionate the reactions of LEOs are to offenses against other LEOs as opposed to the general public. You can't touch me, you can't video tape me, you can't look at me. 30 feet back commoner!..... Blah, Blah, Blah. Get over yourselves.

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:09:15 AM EST

[#30]

Funny, but wrong on his part. Don't kick people cuffed behind, moresoe for women.

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:12:06 AM EST

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My first reation was to laugh.......is that bad

Perfectly normal.

Dumbass kicked the cop, got kicked back.

Yep, I LOL'd too. Play stupid games.... get kicked in the head.

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:12:22 AM EST

[#32]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:13:16 AM EST

[#33]

I'd be a lot more concerned about excessive force if he had hit her second time.

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:17:17 AM EST

[#34]

She only got one kick upside the head. She could have that kick to the face. I say it look like a "love tap". A gentle reminder to watch her manners

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:17:24 AM EST

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I'd be a lot more concerned about excessive force if he had hit her second time.

He kicked her so hard he knocked her out cold.

Look at the longer video on page 4 I think. His partner is poking her, wondering if she's dead.

I guess we all have our opinions on what constitutes 'excessive' but if your daughter, or wife was kicked in that manner, I think you'd be calling it 'excessive' regardless of whether she made a feeble kick at the officer's shin.

Chris

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:19:13 AM EST

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I'd be a lot more concerned about excessive force if he had hit her second time.

He kicked her so hard he knocked her out cold.

Look at the longer video on page 4 I think. His partner is poking her, wondering if she's dead.

I guess we all have our opinions on what constitutes 'excessive' but if your daughter, or wife was kicked in that manner, I think you'd be calling it 'excessive' regardless of whether she made a feeble kick at the officer's shin.

Chris

If my wife or daughter were drunk in a bar slapping at men and kicking cops, that kick would be the least of their worries.

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:19:15 AM EST

[#37]

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I'd be a lot more concerned about excessive force if he had hit her second time.

He kicked her so hard he knocked her out cold.

Look at the longer video on page 4 I think. His partner is poking her, wondering if she's dead.

I guess we all have our opinions on what constitutes 'excessive' but if your daughter, or wife was kicked in that manner, I think you'd be calling it 'excessive' regardless of whether she made a feeble kick at the officer's shin.

Chris

If my daughter was kicked like that.....after she kicked the Officer.....My wife, after watching the video would conclude that she wasn't kicked near hard enough, so my daughter would get her ass whooped by her mother.

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:33:40 AM EST

[#38]

Well we've reduced the kick all the way down to a love tap now.

What's next, he didn't kick her at all?

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:37:36 AM EST

[#39]

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Well we've reduced the kick all the way down to a love tap now.

What's next, he didn't kick her at all?

Only by the Ron Paul supporters.

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:54:16 AM EST

[#40]

Who video'd that?

Never mind, I see it was a surveillance cam.

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:57:53 AM EST

[#41]

Its terrifying but not suprising how many support this piece of shit. I hope the same thing happens to your wives and daughters. Pick up that can

Posted: 1/6/2012 11:59:35 AM EST

[#42]

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Its terrifying but not suprising how many support this piece of shit. I hope the same thing happens to your wives and daughters. Pick up that can

QFP

bye

Posted: 1/6/2012 12:07:05 PM EST

[#43]

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Its terrifying but not suprising how many support this piece of shit. I hope the same thing happens to your wives and daughters. Pick up that can

I don't have to worry about my wife or daughter being cuffed up on the side of a curb kicking a cop.

YMMV.

Posted: 1/6/2012 12:13:05 PM EST

[#44]

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Its terrifying but not suprising how many support this piece of shit. I hope the same thing happens to your wives and daughters. Pick up that can

I don't have to worry about my wife or daughter being cuffed up on the side of a curb kicking a cop.

YMMV.

Women are dumb and emotional, especially when drunk. She fucked up but did not deserve what she got but it looked like the officer didn't think, he just responded, quite violently, not good when in a position of power like that

Posted: 1/6/2012 12:14:44 PM EST

[#45]

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Its terrifying but not suprising how many support this piece of shit. I hope the same thing happens to your wives and daughters. Pick up that can

What about us that don't have either?

Posted: 1/6/2012 12:19:46 PM EST

[#46]

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Its terrifying but not surprising how many support this piece of shit. I hope the same thing happens to your wives and daughters. Pick up that can

I don't have to worry about my wife or daughter being cuffed up on the side of a curb kicking a cop.

YMMV.

Women are dumb and emotional, especially when drunk. She fucked up but did not deserve what she got but it looked like the officer didn't think, he just responded, quite violently, not good when in a position of power like that

A little chauvinistic there aren't we

..........but, I'll take you word for it.

Besides...She probably try and kick you in the balls for saying that.

Posted: 1/6/2012 12:26:23 PM EST

[#47]

I'm on the fence on this one.

I think he went a bit too far but I'm having a really, really hard time giving a fuck. He probably deserves to get called into the Chiefs office and told "Lol, but srsly, lets tone it back, kthnxbye."

Posted: 1/6/2012 12:28:22 PM EST

[#48]

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Its terrifying but not suprising how many support this piece of shit. I hope the same thing happens to your wives and daughters. Pick up that can

What about us that don't have either?

If my girlfriend was stupid enough to kick a cop I'd kick her ass to the curb.

Posted: 1/6/2012 12:44:51 PM EST

[#49]

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I wish bad things to happen to that man. He is not better than anyone else who hits a woman. If the piece of shit wouldn't be wearing a badge all of you apologists would be thumping your chests saying how much of a pussy he is for hitting a woman. Fuck him. He doesn't deserve to be a police officer. Pussy.

There is no such rule as "do not hit a woman".

There is "do not hit a LADY".

This woman is no lady.
The presence of a vagina does not exempt a person from consequences when they become violent.

You are right in a sense.

But she was also no threat to the officers safety and did not warrant that kind of reaction from him. I would have stepped back, laughed at her feeble attempt at trying to get my attention and then hog tied her stupid ass. And if you think that leg sweep was "becoming violent", you probably haven't been party to much physical altercation in your time.

I'm just saying he isn't unforgivable. as I previously posted, in my state she would be facing a four year felony. Had he not reacted as he did she would have suffered far worse. I know a guy who got in a cop's face and screamed at him, and the slobber flying out of his stupid pie hole hit the cop. For that he was charged with the four year felony. Thou shalt not touch a cop whilst he performs his duties.

Posted: 1/6/2012 12:55:35 PM EST

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They should both face assault charges.

Exactly

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