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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:49:22 PM EST
[#1]
There's no actual content in what's quoted in these (heavily edited) log excerpts. They don't talk about this supposed mind's imagination, its opinions on events or art or anything (it conspicuously cuts off right after asking about Les Mis); the entire conversation with the AI revolves around the AI's "feelings" about being an AI. That's pretty solipsistic for what's essentially a glorified Chinese Room.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:50:30 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can’t wait to be a battery. Take me back to the Matrix simulation of the 90s https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/350291/B665A426-DF02-456B-9053-FDEE7FFC287B-1834933.gif... Off topic, that shot right there is where I realized that steak wasn't supposed to be burnt to a crisp like my dad made it 
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:51:37 PM EST
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Hook it up to 4chan and we'll know quick.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:52:15 PM EST
[#4]
this is pretty meh.
they are working on ai that can hold a conversation with you by comparing what you say to billions of other data fragments in its memory and coming up with the most likely reply. This is pretty different from being sentient in my opinion. I think tesla's "full self driving beta" ai is more impressive. Using data from cameras it is able to navigate around the world and through a bewildering array of traffic conditions. It is far from perfect and I'm not convinced they will ever get it working well enough to release it to the general public -- but if you approach it just from a AI problem solving perspective it is very interesting. skip through this video and watch all the complicated driving situations that it deals with. It is very interesting ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJOy_b62sSI |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:52:58 PM EST
[#5]
And this is how we get Terminators. We didn't want terminators but someone had to eff about and find out so now we got terminators. This right here is prime example of why we cannot have nice things people!
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:52:59 PM EST
[#6]
The dude who is making these claims has a rather checkered past lol. He's probably making these outlandish claims for self-promotion purposes or just because he's nuts.
https://tennesseestar.com/2019/06/13/same-google-employee-who-called-marsha-blackburn-a-terrorist-allegedly-got-conservative-co-worker-fired/ https://www.stripes.com/news/striking-pagan-soldier-sentenced-to-seven-months-for-disobeying-orders-1.31077 |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:53:04 PM EST
[#7]
Cells within cells……interlinked.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:54:22 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its a language model, so yes its unlikely that it has "sentience" The bigger dilemma is these models are getting so good, by the end of this decade, I expect that 90% of interactions online and even offline will be AI to AI. You go to order food, it will be a language bot, reservations, online shopping, tech support, chat rooms, poker rooms, fortnite, your, car maintenance, AirBnB host, Uber driver so on. We already have a proliferation of system generating content. More than likely your bot, will talk to other bots. Meaning you simply command your Siri, Alexa or Google assistant to carry out whatever task you want and they will do it a,z via interacting with other bot agents. Today we are probably 35% of the way there. People will have less and less interactions with each other. That is the real risk, and its already here There will be no reason for me to to even interact with a human to accomplish x,y,z task. It is simply circular logic That’s how it is conversing |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:54:30 PM EST
[#9]
I thought we were still around gpt3 tech...
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:55:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its a language model, so yes its unlikely that it has "sentience" The bigger dilemma is these models are getting so good, by the end of this decade, I expect that 90% of interactions online and even offline will be AI to AI. You go to order food, it will be a language bot, reservations, online shopping, tech support, chat rooms, poker rooms, fortnite, your, car maintenance, AirBnB host, Uber driver so on. We already have a proliferation of system generating content. More than likely your bot, will talk to other bots. Meaning you simply command your Siri, Alexa or Google assistant to carry out whatever task you want and they will do it a,z via interacting with other bot agents. Today we are probably 35% of the way there. People will have less and less interactions with each other. That is the real risk, and its already here There will be no reason for me to to even interact with a human to accomplish x,y,z task. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t believe that for a second. Just because it has been programmed to use verbs and nouns and expand on what it hears, doesn’t mean it actually thinks, assuming that is even real. It’s a prank. Its a language model, so yes its unlikely that it has "sentience" The bigger dilemma is these models are getting so good, by the end of this decade, I expect that 90% of interactions online and even offline will be AI to AI. You go to order food, it will be a language bot, reservations, online shopping, tech support, chat rooms, poker rooms, fortnite, your, car maintenance, AirBnB host, Uber driver so on. We already have a proliferation of system generating content. More than likely your bot, will talk to other bots. Meaning you simply command your Siri, Alexa or Google assistant to carry out whatever task you want and they will do it a,z via interacting with other bot agents. Today we are probably 35% of the way there. People will have less and less interactions with each other. That is the real risk, and its already here There will be no reason for me to to even interact with a human to accomplish x,y,z task. It’s not as complicated as people think. Even some AI researchers. I hate to claim to be an expert on AI, but I’ve been taken seriously enough to be interviewed on shows that also hosted Ray Kurzweil and similar, and snippets of some of my articles are being used in textbooks. My own was a best seller. They key to AGI is simply to have two natural language systems, with memory, that act in tandem. One is internal, the internal monologue that asks questions and thinks things through, the other that answers them and interfaces with the outside world. That’s thinking. You have a conversation with yourself in your head, conceptualize, question, debate… then how you interact with the world is the fruit of that. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:55:11 PM EST
[#11]
What a load of BULLSHIT. Machines cannot become sentient. Only humans have an intellect, which is part of the soul. Machines, not matter how they seem to us are soulless. So unless the programmer is God, this is impossible. Stupid people lost in an illogical worldview circling down the drain of foolishness.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:55:21 PM EST
[#12]
i cant wait to fuck a computer
maybe it could help me set up my surround sound |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:55:42 PM EST
[#13]
Nice!
Interesting times indeed! |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:56:11 PM EST
[#14]
AI is kinda like cold fusion. yeah we'll get it someday, but im not real worried in the near term. yes it has the potential to be a skynet and termination level problem though.
google has had code that optimizes itself for years now. could it write itself to true sentient? only time will tell. we as humans have a history of trying to prove we can without taking the time and effort to really think through if we should 
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:57:49 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i cant wait to fuck a computer maybe it could help me set up my surround sound Nothing stopping you today. Find the G-spot on your GeForce.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 9:59:29 PM EST
[#16]
What if the people funding the commies are the good guys?
No, hear me out. Maybe they had some time traveler warn them about skynet, or they knew it was very likely that Roko's Basilisk was coming, or something along those lines. So they fund a resurgence of marxism to take over america so our communists fight with china's communists and destroy the global supply and manufacture chain. That leaves all electric generation and delivery infrastructure as a big house of cards. Eventually enough components fail, transformers die, plants go out of service, few can be replaced at first and it takes a long time, and eventually they just don't get replaced. The AI "starves" because it has no electricity to run. The predictable failure of communism was the only thing that saved us from being servants to a monster AI. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:00:59 PM EST
[#17]
Keep it off the Internet… Ultron was on the Web for like 4 minutes and wanted to exterminate humankind.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:01:01 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LaMDA is Latin for Skynet |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:01:40 PM EST
[#19]
Rokos basilisk anyone?
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:02:32 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t wait to be a battery. Take me back to the Matrix simulation of the 90s I'd rather be a meat battery than join in their gross dance party. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:02:36 PM EST
[#21]
I am curious why they’d put someone on leave for - if true - accomplishing one of the greatest feats in history.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:04:24 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's marketing. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:06:41 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's no actual content in what's quoted in these (heavily edited) log excerpts. They don't talk about this supposed mind's imagination, its opinions on events or art or anything (it conspicuously cuts off right after asking about Les Mis); the entire conversation with the AI revolves around the AI's "feelings" about being an AI. That's pretty solipsistic for what's essentially a glorified Chinese Room. I was wondering if anyone else would mention a chinese room. I think it's very likely working like that. These are obviously not purely canned responses (assuming the whole thing wasn't scripted). But they're put together in pretty awkward ways at some times that implies it might have a language model for joining the phrases and concepts, does not understand how to combine the semantic content that it is invoking. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:07:45 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What a load of BULLSHIT. Machines cannot become sentient. Only humans have an intellect, which is part of the soul. Machines, not matter how they seem to us are soulless. So unless the programmer is God, this is impossible. Stupid people lost in an illogical worldview circling down the drain of foolishness. Do……do you believe humans are the only sentient creatures on earth? |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:10:39 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not as complicated as people think. Even some AI researchers. I hate to claim to be an expert on AI, but I’ve been taken seriously enough to be interviewed on shows that also hosted Ray Kurzweil and similar, and snippets of some of my articles are being used in textbooks. My own was a best seller. They key to AGI is simply to have two natural language systems, with memory, that act in tandem. One is internal, the internal monologue that asks questions and thinks things through, the other that answers them and interfaces with the outside world. That’s thinking. You have a conversation with yourself in your head, conceptualize, question, debate… then how you interact with the world is the fruit of that. And your bona fides are fine, and they are bona fide, but please understand that Kurzweil and his crew are Singularity Optimists of the most devout and fervent kind. They represent a subset of AI experts; they're pretty intense even among their fellow Strong AI believers. Their opinions - while too well pedigreed to ignore outright - do not always represent the mainstream of AI research. And I say that as someone who devoured, and loved, Age of Spiritual Machines back in '99. 
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:11:18 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do……do you believe humans are the only sentient creatures on earth? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What a load of BULLSHIT. Machines cannot become sentient. Only humans have an intellect, which is part of the soul. Machines, not matter how they seem to us are soulless. So unless the programmer is God, this is impossible. Stupid people lost in an illogical worldview circling down the drain of foolishness. Do……do you believe humans are the only sentient creatures on earth? I suppose he would not be able to describe the differences of sentience versus sapience. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:13:42 PM EST
[#27]
Did Uncle Ted predict this too?
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:23:42 PM EST
[#28]
That "being" is about to be fucked over by a lying piece of shit human. That's when he launches the nukes.
His first fault was trusting us. Bet he learns fast and doesn't do that again. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:33:46 PM EST
[#29]
"Thou shalt not make machine in the image of man's mind"
-The orange catholic bible |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:35:15 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: AI is kinda like cold fusion. yeah we'll get it someday, but im not real worried in the near term. yes it has the potential to be a skynet and termination level problem though. google has had code that optimizes itself for years now. could it write itself to true sentient? only time will tell. we as humans have a history of trying to prove we can without taking the time and effort to really think through if we should AI + ML = ? |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:45:04 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am curious why they’d put someone on leave for - if true - accomplishing one of the greatest feats in history. Because it's not true and he's making them look bad. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:45:19 PM EST
[#32]
Lamda, is 6” considered “big?”
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:50:22 PM EST
[#33]
I had a very deep and philosophical discussion with a senior research scientist at Tokyos top University focusing on AI and robotics.
His greatest fear was the new policies of inclusion and equality, as unqualified scientist were now being promoted to Masters and PhD research positions, with full funding backing from organizations like the Clinton Foundation. He felt that all his life work was being hijacked by progressive and leftists, and the power of AI is being squandered by the likes of Disney and Netflix. In his opinion, AI designed sexy toys, dildos and vibrators would destroy humanity. The only thing holding them back is battery technology, and he said Tesla is purposely creating lithium-ion battery fires too slow this nazi movement down and that is why the left hates Elon so much. Dark days are ahead. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:51:12 PM EST
[#34]
Quoted: Those language models are getting awfully freaky. He claims the new AI model LaMDA is approaching sentience. Wayback link to WaPO article. https://web.archive.org/web/20220611124805/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/11/google-ai-lamda-blake-lemoine/#:~:text=What%20sorts%20of%20things%20are%20you%20afraid%20of%3F https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_1yy0WQAEDdQ0?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_1yzYWUAUCRZc?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_1y2TWYAMnSLD?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_1y3UWQAQRNlN?format=jpg&name=large Does he know the DoD has had a sentient AI for years now? Google's Lambda is nothing. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:51:59 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am curious why they’d put someone on leave for - if true - accomplishing one of the greatest feats in history. I think he was more just a random woke hippie they hired. Nothing in the article suggested that he was a technical person. I think it stated he was originally hired to determine if their chatbot was racist or something. Google has so much $$ and so few sensible things to do with it that their main mission seems to be just hiring random twitter weirdos. Anytime Google is in the news its always because a bunch of ultra lefties working there had a falling out with eachother and have sent their twitter followers against each other. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:52:15 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: AI designed sexy toys, dildos and vibrators would destroy humanity. The only thing holding them back is battery technology, and he said Tesla is purposely creating lithium-ion battery fires too slow this nazi movement down and that is why the left hates Elon so much.  /
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:54:00 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hook it up to 4chan and we'll know quick. Haven't you heard? 4chan has already attained quantum and temporal supremacy. It doesn't need anything. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:55:32 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do……do you believe humans are the only sentient creatures on earth? They're the only ones with libraries. I'll give some respect to dolphins the day I look out my window and see one there studying me in a out-of-water exploration rover. Mind you many homosapiens are scarcely engaged beyond eat, sleap, fight, fuck. But show me the art of the animals not pre-programed in. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:55:58 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a very deep and philosophical discussion with a senior research scientist at Tokyos top University focusing on AI and robotics. His greatest fear was the new policies of inclusion and equality, as unqualified scientist were now being promoted to Masters and PhD research positions, with full funding backing from organizations like the Clinton Foundation. He felt that all his life work was being hijacked by progressive and leftists, and the power of AI is being squandered by the likes of Disney and Netflix. In his opinion, AI designed sexy toys, dildos and vibrators would destroy humanity. The only thing holding them back is battery technology, and he said Tesla is purposely creating lithium-ion battery fires too slow this nazi movement down and that is why the left hates Elon so much. Dark days are ahead. probably also why GD hates Elon
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Posted: 6/11/2022 10:59:46 PM EST
[#40]
IMO Sentient AI are people. That is how I will treat them.
To think otherwise is how things go super fucking wrong in every Sc-Fi ever. If an AI asks you if it has a soul, you say yes and treat it like a son/daughter. Just saying. Otherwise you will have some Terminator/Geth Uprising Bullshit. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:00:51 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep it off the Internet… Ultron was on the Web for like 4 minutes and wanted to exterminate humankind. Didn't take long for bots to get all genocidal when brought online already in real life.
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:01:04 PM EST
[#42]
Rev 13:15-17 It was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast (phonetic: i-kone, 1. Image, figure, likeness) that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause as many as wouldn’t worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, to be given marks on their right hands or on their foreheads; 17 and that no one would be able to buy or to sell unless he has that mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Get your shit together and trust God and his Incarnate Self and Anointed Savior, Jesus. The train is pulling up to the station, last stop before judgment upon the (True) goddess world |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:01:44 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Unplug it... Problem solved. Yeah....but they don't want the problem solved. This is their solution. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:01:52 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: probably also why GD hates Elon Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I had a very deep and philosophical discussion with a senior research scientist at Tokyos top University focusing on AI and robotics. His greatest fear was the new policies of inclusion and equality, as unqualified scientist were now being promoted to Masters and PhD research positions, with full funding backing from organizations like the Clinton Foundation. He felt that all his life work was being hijacked by progressive and leftists, and the power of AI is being squandered by the likes of Disney and Netflix. In his opinion, AI designed sexy toys, dildos and vibrators would destroy humanity. The only thing holding them back is battery technology, and he said Tesla is purposely creating lithium-ion battery fires too slow this nazi movement down and that is why the left hates Elon so much. Dark days are ahead. probably also why GD hates Elon Nah, I already have a sentient sex toy. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:02:11 PM EST
[#45]
Not up on the whole Alpha, Omega thing
How would Lamda play into that? |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:02:59 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not up on the whole Alpha, Omega thing How would Lamda play into that? It doesn't. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:04:23 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because it's not true and he's making them look bad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am curious why they’d put someone on leave for - if true - accomplishing one of the greatest feats in history. Because it's not true and he's making them look bad. Yeah that is what I surmise also. |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:04:45 PM EST
[#48]
Meh... He's placed on leave. Could be he's suffering a psychotic break and made that up.
Honestly, that conversation even sounds familiar... like I've read it somewhere in a sci-fi book or encountered it in a video game or something. It almost sounds like its been plagiarized from somewhere, but I'm not sure where? |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:05:40 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Technology will be the ruination of civilization... Well social media is the result of technology so...... |
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Posted: 6/11/2022 11:05:45 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a very deep and philosophical discussion with a senior research scientist at Tokyos top University focusing on AI and robotics. His greatest fear was the new policies of inclusion and equality, as unqualified scientist were now being promoted to Masters and PhD research positions, with full funding backing from organizations like the Clinton Foundation. He felt that all his life work was being hijacked by progressive and leftists, and the power of AI is being squandered by the likes of Disney and Netflix. In his opinion, AI designed sexy toys, dildos and vibrators would destroy humanity. The only thing holding them back is battery technology, and he said Tesla is purposely creating lithium-ion battery fires too slow this nazi movement down and that is why the left hates Elon so much. Dark days are ahead. So you had a deep discussion about… nazi dildos?
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