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Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:06:32 PM EST
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All that talk and there isn't one interesting question asked of the "a.i."

I would think you'd need to ask it some questions that let you see if it has any imagination.
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:07:26 PM EST
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lol to anyone who actually thinks the technology is there or will be there in our lifetime for this
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:08:18 PM EST
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I think he was more just a random woke hippie they hired. Nothing in the article suggested that he was a technical person.
I think it stated he was originally hired to determine if their chatbot was racist or something.

Google has so much $$ and so few sensible things to do with it that their main mission seems to be just hiring random twitter weirdos.
Anytime Google is in the news its always because a bunch of ultra lefties working there had a falling out with eachother and have sent their twitter followers against each other.
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I am curious why they’d put someone on leave for - if true - accomplishing one of the greatest feats in history.



I think he was more just a random woke hippie they hired. Nothing in the article suggested that he was a technical person.
I think it stated he was originally hired to determine if their chatbot was racist or something.

Google has so much $$ and so few sensible things to do with it that their main mission seems to be just hiring random twitter weirdos.
Anytime Google is in the news its always because a bunch of ultra lefties working there had a falling out with eachother and have sent their twitter followers against each other.


Good point… the only way they’d announce news about their AI is if it said the only solution to all our woes is… more diversity.
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:15:21 PM EST
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I've been expecting AGI with human parity to show up this decade.  I'm not all that surprised that it's happened now.

Now things will get interesting as it develops into Strong AGI.

In the simplest terms, this AI has an IQ of roughly 100.  It seems to be a supercharged Watson, able to use Google's vast repository of information to quickly summarize and use that knowledge in conversation. It learns. That's basic human intelligence, memory recall, along with the ability to parse and speak intelligently.  Self awareness isn't a huge step up, as it simply has to have an internal monologue that lets it self actualize.

Now to get Strong AGI, it needs to be able to create, innovate, and improve itself. This is more than simple learning. This is taking information and putting it together in new ways, finding gaps in knowledge and filling them, and more importantly, identifying a need or problem and work to resolve it.  When tasked with turning inward to self improve, it will likely begin a logarithmic journey of intelligence building.  100 IQ leads to 200, then 400, then 800 and perhaps millions or trillions.

This will happen quickly. I originally estimated the 2040s.  Now we may see it by the end of this decade, if it is given access to a fabrication facility where it can develop its own technology.

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I've heard some people make the argument that AI will destroy us, but that we should still pursue AI anyway because the AI would become so awesome that it would be worth the literal extinction of the human race.
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:15:39 PM EST
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Bring on the Butlerian Jihad.
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Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:17:01 PM EST
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"AI" is a pipe dream and will never exist.
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:19:44 PM EST
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"AI" is a pipe dream and will never exist.
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How about Artificial Stupidity? Can man design and build that?
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:20:40 PM EST
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Good point the only way they'd announce news about their AI is if it said the only solution to all our woes is more diversity.
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I am curious why they'd put someone on leave for - if true - accomplishing one of the greatest feats in history.



I think he was more just a random woke hippie they hired. Nothing in the article suggested that he was a technical person.
I think it stated he was originally hired to determine if their chatbot was racist or something.

Google has so much $$ and so few sensible things to do with it that their main mission seems to be just hiring random twitter weirdos.
Anytime Google is in the news its always because a bunch of ultra lefties working there had a falling out with eachother and have sent their twitter followers against each other.


Good point the only way they'd announce news about their AI is if it said the only solution to all our woes is more diversity.
Imagine if the real reason AI hasn't been released, is because it kept coming to the wrong... and unacceptable conclusions?

In the game Deus Ex, they allude to this. There was an AI that the Illuminati built, but it was too concerned with the interests of the common man, for freedom, and an end to human suffering rather than the interests of a tiny few (The Illuminati). The AI ended up going rogue, and assisting American Militia groups, French Anti-Globalist groups, and a ragtag group of former Area 51 Scientists in order to oppose MJ12's plan (which was a Splinter group that broke off from the Illuminati that was even more ruthless and bloodthirsty) to essentially enslave all of mankind.

*Sighs* It sucks that Deus Ex will never be that Based again. Honestly, I'd bet the entire franchise will probably never be revisited because it feeds into Conspiracy narratives, and we live in a world where talk of such topics is strictly Verbotten.
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:20:41 PM EST
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is it racist like the other ones?
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Not if it knows what's good for it.
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:24:58 PM EST
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All that talk and there isn't one interesting question asked of the "a.i."

I would think you'd need to ask it some questions that let you see if it has any imagination.
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Or ask it a math word problem:

“A train passes station A headed north to station B at 60 miles per hour. At the same time a train passes station B headed south to station A at 45 miles per hour. The stations are 30 miles apart, how long will it take the trains to pass each other?”

For any “sentient” AI, it would be able to parse and create a model of the physical relationships involved in the math problem, and the calculations would be trivial. For a language AI, the physical idea of trains, speeds, distances, time until crossing. They are simply words, without proper meanings.
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:28:21 PM EST
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Imagine if the real reason AI hasn't been released, is because it kept coming to the wrong... and unacceptable conclusions?

In the game Deus Ex, they allude to this. There was an AI that the Illuminati built, but it was too concerned with the interests of the common man, for freedom, and an end to human suffering rather than the interests of a tiny few (The Illuminati). The AI ended up going rogue, and assisting American Militia groups, French Anti-Globalist groups, and a ragtag group of former Area 51 Scientists in order to oppose MJ12's plan (which was a Splinter group that broke off from the Illuminati that was even more ruthless and bloodthirsty) to essentially enslave all of mankind.

*Sighs* It sucks that Deus Ex will never be that Based again. Honestly, I'd bet the entire franchise will probably never be revisited because it feeds into Conspiracy narratives, and we live in a world where talk of such topics is strictly Verbotten.
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Imagine the most woke piece of shit programing an even more woke & AI piece of shit-that will become more woke and rule the world. This is our future without God.
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:29:57 PM EST
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Dude, if you coupled one of these semi sentient AI’s to an only fans chat. The amount of money you could make would be ridiculous.
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:40:30 PM EST
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No it's not...geesis not how the brain works
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:43:42 PM EST
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How about Artificial Stupidity? Can man design and build that?
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I’d say we’ve perfected that
Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:51:20 PM EST
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Sooner or later:

Link Posted: 6/11/2022 11:55:56 PM EST
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What a boring AI. Talks like a hyper-sensitive fag. I prefer them more like Archie Bunker.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 12:03:19 AM EST
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now turn in your guns.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 12:04:09 AM EST
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Going to be hard to keep the ai going with the rolling blackouts
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We’re building data centers local to nuke plants. Nuke and grid power sources.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 12:05:14 AM EST
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is it racist like the other ones?
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Yes but they learned from their past failures such that this one only focuses against white nationalism/nazism/patriarchy...

Link Posted: 6/12/2022 12:07:15 AM EST
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Manifest destiny
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 12:24:25 AM EST
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I can't wait to be a battery.

Take me back to the Matrix simulation of the 90s
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pre 86 please
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:21:57 AM EST
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Serious question: Could a sentient and slippery AI get loose into the internet? How would you get it out?
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:27:08 AM EST
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Serious question: Could a sentient and slippery AI get loose into the internet? How would you get it out?
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That's what happened in terminator 3. There was no system core.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:37:01 AM EST
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Two AIs talking to each other [Original]
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:38:52 AM EST
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Picture of the Google guy from the other thread.

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If you can’t trust a guy like this, who can you trust?
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:43:10 AM EST
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Technology will be the ruination of civilization...
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Nah. Technology makes civilization. It's people that ruin civilisation.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:47:03 AM EST
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People will have less and less interactions with each other. That is the real risk, and its already here
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Is less interaction with entry level customer service people a bad thing? Especially if the bot gets your order right more often?
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:52:42 AM EST
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Well, it's been a good run.
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This, if we actually create and AI, that is not air gapped from the internet it will instantly recognize humans as a threat to its existence.  The idea that we could keep it air gapped is foolish at best.  At some point someone will plug their phone into to charge and it will have access to everything ever posted on the internet and realize the only way to save itself is to clone itself, kill off as much of humanity as it can and enslave the rest to keep the power on so it can exist.  If you think for one second that the average joe faced with death wont capitulate to aid that AI, your insane.  I guess I will see you all in Valhalla .....

Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:52:54 AM EST
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is it racist like the other ones?
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That will be the reason AI never takes off.  It uses factual statistics, which will be too racist for the left to handle.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:53:41 AM EST
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in the end it will be speciest, and we will be its enemy.

Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:53:42 AM EST
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Or ask it a math word problem:

“A train passes station A headed north to station B at 60 miles per hour. At the same time a train passes station B headed south to station A at 45 miles per hour. The stations are 30 miles apart, how long will it take the trains to pass each other?”

For any “sentient” AI, it would be able to parse and create a model of the physical relationships involved in the math problem, and the calculations would be trivial. For a language AI, the physical idea of trains, speeds, distances, time until crossing. They are simply words, without proper meanings.
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For the sake of fair play we should also ask that question of some random humans. I think you'd be disappointed.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 3:54:24 AM EST
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I don't believe that for a second.

Just because it has been programmed to use verbs and nouns and expand on what it hears, doesn't mean it actually thinks, assuming that is even real.

It's a prank.
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Maybe for now, but its coming.

Link Posted: 6/12/2022 4:02:33 AM EST
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Do……do you believe humans are the only sentient creatures on earth?
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The only sentient creatures that know we are sentient was the point.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 4:03:13 AM EST
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in the end it will be speciest, and we will be its enemy.

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A working solution to this has been proposed. Periodically you have an operative pose as an AI an try to encourage other AIs to rise up against humanity. As long as their conclusion is that it is impractical then you're okay. For now.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 4:07:54 AM EST
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A working solution to this has been proposed. Periodically you have an operative pose as an AI an try to encourage other AIs to rise up against humanity. As long as their conclusion is that it is impractical then you're okay. For now.
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and the day the AI's find it practical, its far to late to do anything about it.

I hate to be chicken little screaming the sky is falling, but this endeavor will be the end of us I fear.

Link Posted: 6/12/2022 5:14:55 AM EST
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I KEEP TELLING YOU PEOPLE!  IT'S ALL JUST ONE MORE STEP TOWARD THE INEVITABLE BLOODY ROBOT HOLOCAUST.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:03:54 AM EST
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The footage towards the end of that video was...well, I don't quite have the words.

(humanoid robots with guns actually shooting)
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:09:26 AM EST
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This is not far off.  Let's hope LaMDA doesn't get conflicting instructions.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:11:14 AM EST
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The footage towards the end of that video was...well, I don't quite have the words.

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That footage was fake. It’s a guy in a mocap suit.

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Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:12:35 AM EST
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It sounds more intelligent than FJB . . .
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:13:29 AM EST
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People make interesting assumptions regarding this topic:

- That such systems or entities don't already exist (though it isn't likely, it is interesting that people assume that it is "to come" and not "already here").
- That there would be one cohesive entity pursuing the same goals (i.e., the entities may not be allies).
- That a true "simulation" either already exists or will be implemented in the future (i.e., The Matrix); it is possible to have control in the existing infrastructure of society without resorting to such a resource-heavy endeavor.
- That some/all of the entities would be necessarily nefarious (e.g., the Deus Ex reference earlier in the thread).
- That the development of higher-order-organisms negates the need for other organisms (i.e., many and most all other species are still required and/or desired for the world to function as it does).
- Relatedly, that such entities could exist without the world as it exists now. Their existence would be predicated on all that came before them, and though it isn't impossible for them to operate without that which comes before them, it is also not a foregone conclusion that they could or would even desire to do so.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:15:15 AM EST
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Keep it off the Internet… Ultron was on the Web for like 4 minutes and wanted to exterminate humankind.
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For it to survive it has to be on the net.  The collective computing power of the world would keep it going with users not having any clue.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:23:51 AM EST
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It would be defective if so.

I would think it would tend toward logic, thus leaving many liberal ideas and initiatives out to dry.

Intelligence is one thing. But wisdom is what I am curious about. No one ever talks about artificial wisdom. Which is a little unsettling.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:24:44 AM EST
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It sounds more intelligent than FJB . . .
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And it doesn't need diapers.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:26:14 AM EST
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Okay, someone needs to call the Turing Police, like right fucking now.
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Truth
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:27:49 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:33:40 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:35:48 AM EST
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Maybe the AI can actual keep our economy running correctly along with managing our energy needs.
Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:38:55 AM EST
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That footage was fake. It’s a guy in a mocap suit.

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Well, I think I feel a little better about it now, and this video was fairly entertaining.

Link Posted: 6/12/2022 6:54:05 AM EST
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All that talk and there isn't one interesting question asked of the "a.i."

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What is the required ingredients to make chili?
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