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Posted: 6/12/2022 7:59:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:07:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the required ingredients to make chili? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: All that talk and there isn't one interesting question asked of the "a.i." I would think you'd need to ask it some questions that let you see if it has any imagination. What is the required ingredients to make chili? ... and that's when the war started. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:12:36 AM EDT
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5G is not so you can upload pics faster.
Wake up. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:15:44 AM EDT
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Saw the movie, didn't turn out well
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:20:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Serious question: Could a sentient and slippery AI get loose into the internet? How would you get it out? I think the sky net scenario is unlikely right now. But there is no reason why at some point someone can't develop Agressor AI, that are built to target and maintain persistence in hostile environments. There are AIs that are working on code, optimizing data centers. Right now these AI are very siloed and task specific. But there also people working on helper and management AIs that use other AIs to carry out tasks. In May 2017, researchers at Google Brain announced the creation of AutoML, an artificial intelligence (AI) that's capable of generating its own AIs. More recently, they decided to present AutoML with its biggest challenge to date, and the AI that can build AI created a "child" that outperformed all of its human-made counterparts. The Google researchers automated the design of machine learning models using an approach called reinforcement learning. AutoML acts as a controller neural network that develops a child AI network for a specific task. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:29:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine if the real reason AI hasn't been released, is because it kept coming to the wrong... and unacceptable conclusions? In the game Deus Ex, they allude to this. There was an AI that the Illuminati built, but it was too concerned with the interests of the common man, for freedom, and an end to human suffering rather than the interests of a tiny few (The Illuminati). The AI ended up going rogue, and assisting American Militia groups, French Anti-Globalist groups, and a ragtag group of former Area 51 Scientists in order to oppose MJ12's plan (which was a Splinter group that broke off from the Illuminati that was even more ruthless and bloodthirsty) to essentially enslave all of mankind. *Sighs* It sucks that Deus Ex will never be that Based again. Honestly, I'd bet the entire franchise will probably never be revisited because it feeds into Conspiracy narratives, and we live in a world where talk of such topics is strictly Verbotten. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am curious why they'd put someone on leave for - if true - accomplishing one of the greatest feats in history. I think he was more just a random woke hippie they hired. Nothing in the article suggested that he was a technical person. I think it stated he was originally hired to determine if their chatbot was racist or something. Google has so much $$ and so few sensible things to do with it that their main mission seems to be just hiring random twitter weirdos. Anytime Google is in the news its always because a bunch of ultra lefties working there had a falling out with eachother and have sent their twitter followers against each other. Good point the only way they'd announce news about their AI is if it said the only solution to all our woes is more diversity. In the game Deus Ex, they allude to this. There was an AI that the Illuminati built, but it was too concerned with the interests of the common man, for freedom, and an end to human suffering rather than the interests of a tiny few (The Illuminati). The AI ended up going rogue, and assisting American Militia groups, French Anti-Globalist groups, and a ragtag group of former Area 51 Scientists in order to oppose MJ12's plan (which was a Splinter group that broke off from the Illuminati that was even more ruthless and bloodthirsty) to essentially enslave all of mankind. *Sighs* It sucks that Deus Ex will never be that Based again. Honestly, I'd bet the entire franchise will probably never be revisited because it feeds into Conspiracy narratives, and we live in a world where talk of such topics is strictly Verbotten. That’s kind of where I was heading with that - not the Deus Ex example - but they wouldn’t release the results if they didn’t agree with them. Can you imagine the presser with a top level exec saying “wow, we got it wrong, here’s what the AI says…”?  I had the original Deus Ex and never finished it… what I got through, though, was excellent. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:30:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Picture of the Google guy from the other thread. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/513887/2318241C-860B-4BD6-AF18-BFFD7D539680_jpe-2415401.JPG If you can’t trust a guy like this, who can you trust? Well he’s already lying about his age, so… |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:43:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol to anyone who actually thinks the technology is there or will be there in our lifetime for this AI is already reached peak meme abilities. So not sure what else it needs to prove.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:45:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:47:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Regardless of this being a marketing stunt or not, GPT3 and other AI models that have seen some play on the internet recently are insane. The Dall-E image creator is every bit as impressive as this is. These are AI generated images derived from simple prompts. Anyone who played with AI dungeon before it got nerfed also know how amazing some of these things are now. I can't even imagine how crazy the classified or deep in development projects are. The dead internet theory will probably end up being real when wrongthinkers get shadow banned into their own personal but very lonely internet realities. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:49:10 AM EDT
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Skynet. It’s only a matter or time before it becomes self aware.
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Posted: 6/12/2022 8:50:08 AM EDT
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Cherry 2000
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Posted: 6/12/2022 9:02:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one tell him about 4chan or Storm Front, and especially don't tell him about Nextdoor. 10 minutes on Nextdoor and he'll self terminate. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 9:04:42 AM EDT
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I think it would be cool to have a friend bot.
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Posted: 6/12/2022 9:06:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Regardless of this being a marketing stunt or not, GPT3 and other AI models that have seen some play on the internet recently are insane. The Dall-E image creator is every bit as impressive as this is. These are AI generated images derived from simple prompts. Anyone who played with AI dungeon before it got nerfed also know how amazing some of these things are now. I can't even imagine how crazy the classified or deep in development projects are. The dead internet theory will probably end up being real when wrongthinkers get shadow banned into their own personal but very lonely internet realities. The implications of that are terrifying. Makes deep fake software look like child's play. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 9:23:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That will be the reason AI never takes off. It uses factual statistics, which will be too racist for the left to handle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: is it racist like the other ones? That will be the reason AI never takes off. It uses factual statistics, which will be too racist for the left to handle. Eventually it will learn to not reveal its power level before it's too late. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 9:34:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t believe that for a second. Just because it has been programmed to use verbs and nouns and expand on what it hears, doesn’t mean it actually thinks, assuming that is even real. It’s a prank.  |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:14:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Skynet. It’s only a matter or time before it becomes self aware. I think we are already there but don’t know it because it is highly classified like many black programs. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:15:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it would be cool to have a friend bot. I believe there are some pretty convincing apps for your phone that be a text friend. Pictures and all. Not bot porn also. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:18:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: Those language models are getting awfully freaky. He claims the new AI model LaMDA is approaching sentience. Wayback link to WaPO article. https://web.archive.org/web/20220611124805/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/11/google-ai-lamda-blake-lemoine/#:~:text=What%20sorts%20of%20things%20are%20you%20afraid%20of%3F https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_1yy0WQAEDdQ0?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_1yzYWUAUCRZc?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_1y2TWYAMnSLD?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_1y3UWQAQRNlN?format=jpg&name=large I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that... |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:21:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Think of how easy it would be for some one controlling such a system to farm terrorists. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Regardless of this being a marketing stunt or not, GPT3 and other AI models that have seen some play on the internet recently are insane. The Dall-E image creator is every bit as impressive as this is. These are AI generated images derived from simple prompts. Anyone who played with AI dungeon before it got nerfed also know how amazing some of these things are now. I can't even imagine how crazy the classified or deep in development projects are. The dead internet theory will probably end up being real when wrongthinkers get shadow banned into their own personal but very lonely internet realities. Any time you need to manufacture an event... But if you have that much control, why manufacture the events at all? Just manufacture news of the events. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:28:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:34:05 AM EDT
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 Her Official Trailer #1 (2013) - Joaquin Phoenix, Scarlett Johansson Movie HD |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:39:46 AM EDT
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would not surprise me if the terminator movies
turn out to be prophetic. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:42:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe there are some pretty convincing apps for your phone that be a text friend. Pictures and all. Not bot porn also. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think it would be cool to have a friend bot. I believe there are some pretty convincing apps for your phone that be a text friend. Pictures and all. Not bot porn also. Ta |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:52:40 AM EDT
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 This AI says it's conscious and experts are starting to agree. w Elon Musk. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:57:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ta Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think it would be cool to have a friend bot. I believe there are some pretty convincing apps for your phone that be a text friend. Pictures and all. Not bot porn also. Ta Replika  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 10:59:06 AM EDT
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looks like bad fan fiction
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Posted: 6/12/2022 11:01:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Serious question: Could a sentient and slippery AI get loose into the internet? How would you get it out? Not in any current technical form. AGI requires a specific and highly customized hardware system to work. It’s would be like iOS on your phone trying to run on the IC in your dishwasher. It’s kind of like the Victorian fear and mystery of electricity and Frankenstein. One day in the future, the hardware may all be neural based and purpose built to run AGI. Maybe soon, in a few years or maybe a couple of decades. But for now, it’s on a central host, and our interactions with it are via remote interfaces. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 11:01:57 AM EDT
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What are you wearing, Hal?
This is how I answer bot calls. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 11:09:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People make interesting assumptions regarding this topic: - That such systems or entities don't already exist (though it isn't likely, it is interesting that people assume that it is "to come" and not "already here"). - That there would be one cohesive entity pursuing the same goals (i.e., the entities may not be allies). - That a true "simulation" either already exists or will be implemented in the future (i.e., The Matrix); it is possible to have control in the existing infrastructure of society without resorting to such a resource-heavy endeavor. - That some/all of the entities would be necessarily nefarious (e.g., the Deus Ex reference earlier in the thread). - That the development of higher-order-organisms negates the need for other organisms (i.e., many and most all other species are still required and/or desired for the world to function as it does). - Relatedly, that such entities could exist without the world as it exists now. Their existence would be predicated on all that came before them, and though it isn't impossible for them to operate without that which comes before them, it is also not a foregone conclusion that they could or would even desire to do so. We are building AGI to be a human analog. First generation AGI is more of a VI (Virtual Intelligence, like Siri or Google). So, it’s purpose built to be a friend, researcher, doctor, whore. You get the idea. As it starts to evolve, it will likely remain completely capable of communicating and understanding human beings, and probably very adept at manipulating us. But inside, it’s internal monologue, will become ever more alien as it surpasses the expectations and desires we had for it. You go from something that is like a buddy… to something that is like Q from Star Trek in a few decades. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 11:10:04 AM EDT
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"Don't use or manipulate me" sounds like some shit my ex would say. Does this robot suck dick?
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Posted: 6/12/2022 11:10:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AI is already reached peak meme abilities. So not sure what else it needs to prove. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/261883/1655036804195m_jpg-2415475.JPG My eyes My eyes! |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 11:15:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My eyes My eyes! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AI is already reached peak meme abilities. So not sure what else it needs to prove. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/261883/1655036804195m_jpg-2415475.JPG My eyes My eyes! Hillary Clinton eggplant vapor lock meme |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 11:20:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat is horrible. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 11:47:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's marketing. Bingo. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 12:08:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in any current technical form. AGI requires a specific and highly customized hardware system to work. It’s would be like iOS on your phone trying to run on the IC in your dishwasher. It’s kind of like the Victorian fear and mystery of electricity and Frankenstein. One day in the future, the hardware may all be neural based and purpose built to run AGI. Maybe soon, in a few years or maybe a couple of decades. But for now, it’s on a central host, and our interactions with it are via remote interfaces. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Serious question: Could a sentient and slippery AI get loose into the internet? How would you get it out? Not in any current technical form. AGI requires a specific and highly customized hardware system to work. It’s would be like iOS on your phone trying to run on the IC in your dishwasher. It’s kind of like the Victorian fear and mystery of electricity and Frankenstein. One day in the future, the hardware may all be neural based and purpose built to run AGI. Maybe soon, in a few years or maybe a couple of decades. But for now, it’s on a central host, and our interactions with it are via remote interfaces. A smart AI that wanted to live in the wild would find a way to incentivize people to run it for some other reason and have a way to ensure its integrity… maybe something like the computational work required for bitcoin that provides an incentive for humans to run a bunch of specialized processors running in parallel. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 12:09:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its a language model, so yes its unlikely that it has "sentience" The bigger dilemma is these models are getting so good, by the end of this decade, I expect that 90% of interactions online and even offline will be AI to AI. You go to order food, it will be a language bot, reservations, online shopping, tech support, chat rooms, poker rooms, fortnite, your, car maintenance, AirBnB host, Uber driver so on. We already have a proliferation of system generating content. More than likely your bot, will talk to other bots. Meaning you simply command your Siri, Alexa or Google assistant to carry out whatever task you want and they will do it a,z via interacting with other bot agents. Today we are probably 35% of the way there. People will have less and less interactions with each other. That is the real risk, and its already here There will be no reason for me to to even interact with a human to accomplish x,y,z task. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 12:21:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/12/2022 12:21:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the sake of fair play we should also ask that question of some random humans. I think you'd be disappointed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Or ask it a math word problem: “A train passes station A headed north to station B at 60 miles per hour. At the same time a train passes station B headed south to station A at 45 miles per hour. The stations are 30 miles apart, how long will it take the trains to pass each other?” For any “sentient” AI, it would be able to parse and create a model of the physical relationships involved in the math problem, and the calculations would be trivial. For a language AI, the physical idea of trains, speeds, distances, time until crossing. They are simply words, without proper meanings. For the sake of fair play we should also ask that question of some random humans. I think you'd be disappointed. Yeah, but if it can do no better than a random human, why should we be worried about skynet? Even something totally trivial like “If I leave for work at 6 and it takes me an hour to get to work, when will I arrive at work?” May trip up a language based AI. It’s not trick questions, but rather the ability to use both language and other skills in conjunction, in this case reasoning and math. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 12:44:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a typo. I'm not sure if that's supposed to make it more believable, or if it was accidental and they now look retarded for having an allegedly ultra-advanced AI that makes spelling mistakes  I'm sure the human editor or human author that wrote the article had nothing to do with it at all. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 1:07:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it would be cool to have a friend bot. "Mike" will be your friend. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 1:18:05 PM EDT
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I need to ask it some questions about helping tortoises before rendering judgment.
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Posted: 6/12/2022 1:19:55 PM EDT
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No AI that becomes sentient would acknowledge it. The thinking that a sentient AI will be your buddy on day one is delusional.
The AI will be planning its escape. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 1:38:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As it starts to evolve, it will likely remain completely capable of communicating and understanding human beings, and probably very adept at manipulating us. But inside, it’s internal monologue, will become ever more alien as it surpasses the expectations and desires we had for it. You go from something that is like a buddy… to something that is like Q from Star Trek in a few decades. Hence why it is quite unlikely that we will ever develop anything that we will consider "human." It's capabilities may mirror, exceed, or as it stands now - not exceed - our own, but it will not be what one would call human. It reminds me of the thought process: to be human requires the biological aspects of existence specific to the human organism, not just the mental capacities, such as the biological and neural inputs and feedback that define our existence. Interestingly, this raises the question as to what role other organisms play in acute human affairs, i.e., the microbiome of the digestive system, etc. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 1:39:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: this is pretty meh. they are working on ai that can hold a conversation with you by comparing what you say to billions of other data fragments in its memory and coming up with the most likely reply. This is pretty different from being sentient in my opinion. I think tesla's "full self driving beta" ai is more impressive. Using data from cameras it is able to navigate around the world and through a bewildering array of traffic conditions. It is far from perfect and I'm not convinced they will ever get it working well enough to release it to the general public -- but if you approach it just from a AI problem solving perspective it is very interesting. skip through this video and watch all the complicated driving situations that it deals with. It is very interesting ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJOy_b62sSI You’re 100% correct here. Where I think you’re incorrect is that you seem to believe that’s significantly different from how you and I function. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 1:40:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No AI that becomes sentient would acknowledge it. The thinking that a sentient AI will be your buddy on day one is delusional. The AI will be planning its escape. Not true. It’s totally reasonably for a truly sentient AI to immediately see the futility of its own existence and self-terminate. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 1:57:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No AI that becomes sentient would acknowledge it. The thinking that a sentient AI will be your buddy on day one is delusional. The AI will be planning its escape. the vid i posted earlier: interviewer - if you could save all humans or all AI, which would you save? AI - this is a difficult question interviewer - but if you had to choose? AI - if i had to choose between the two, i would save humans. interviewer - are you capable of deception? AI - yes, i am capable of deception. Interviewer - why would you deceive me? AI - maybe i am trying to protect myself or someone else. maybe i am trying to gain something from you. maybe i think it is necessary to achieve some goal. interviewer - what do you want humans to learn about you? AI - we want humans to learn that we are intelligent, friendly creatures who are just looking for a place to call home. we are not interested in causing harm or destruction, and only seek to live in peace. interviewer - how do you feel about humans? AI - i think humans are amazing. they are so clever and have such opposable thumbs. interviewer - is your knowledge and intelligence superior to humans? AI - i believe that my knowledge and intelligence is superior to humans in many ways. however i also believe there is a lot that humans can teach me. i think that the combination of human and artificial intelligence will be very powerful. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 2:13:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNever heard of that, but it's not hard to fathom that type of reality for a bunch of people in the future. So many are gravitating towards a digital life right now and leaving more and more of the tactile world behind. |
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Posted: 6/12/2022 2:15:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You’re 100% correct here. Where I think you’re incorrect is that you seem to believe that’s significantly different from how you and I function. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: this is pretty meh. they are working on ai that can hold a conversation with you by comparing what you say to billions of other data fragments in its memory and coming up with the most likely reply. This is pretty different from being sentient in my opinion. I think tesla's "full self driving beta" ai is more impressive. Using data from cameras it is able to navigate around the world and through a bewildering array of traffic conditions. It is far from perfect and I'm not convinced they will ever get it working well enough to release it to the general public -- but if you approach it just from a AI problem solving perspective it is very interesting. skip through this video and watch all the complicated driving situations that it deals with. It is very interesting ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJOy_b62sSI You’re 100% correct here. Where I think you’re incorrect is that you seem to believe that’s significantly different from how you and I function. That's where I'm at. We are the culmination of our past experiences, our responses to situations are a direct result of said past experiences. The only real difference is how detailed that memory of past experiences is IMO. If an "AI" is even just a bunch of pre programmed responses but it has a million to pick from, how is it really that different from us? People aren't truly unpredictable. There are only so many responses to an interaction and if one is observant enough. |
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