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Posted: 7/20/2024 6:12:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be a hell of a feat, playing a triad on just two strings.  I remember my theory professor telling us about a woman who spent years trying to sing chords. Apparently she could not do two notes at once. I certainly applaud her efforts though.------5---8-- --6----------- |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 6:15:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those one or two notes played in the right context.... aka the other notes in the scale. I could make some midi songs or midi conversions of classical music that would be enjoyable to listen to. There isn't magic that happens once someone with a guitar plays them. I'm all for discussing attack, aggression, nuance, vibrato, phrasing, legatto vs staccato, etc... but don't discount music theory. Even people who aren't classically trained and figured it out on their own, music theory is behind all your great guitarists. That one note you love, you love because it completes or satisfies a larger phrase the guitarist is playing. So yea they need the whole scale to create that emotion. Again, I really think you’re missing my point on this and I doubt I can express it in a way that you can understand. I’m not bad mouthing theory, I use it all the time. What I am saying is that you don’t have to be a technical player to be great. Lots of guys are technically proficient but they sound like they’re just pushing their music through a meat grinder. And I do have more respect for a player that can take a handful of notes and make something great out of it vs a player who just runs up and down the major scale really fast but has no sense of when to let a certain note hang, or when to step out of that scale or simply to just take a breather and give the audience time to digest what he’s just played, or a player who doesn’t approach vibrato as if it was being rapidly hammered out by a sewing machine all the time. I don’t care if all his notes are played staccato or legato, as long as they’re being played in the right context, yes adjacent to other notes in the scale, I have not said this was not the case, in fact it’s really what I’m meaning and I apologize that you fail to see or understand this. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 6:22:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be a hell of a feat, playing a triad on just two strings. I remember my theory professor telling us about a woman who spent years trying to sing chords. Apparently she could not do two notes at once. I certainly applaud her efforts though.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: On the top 2 strings, can you play the following basic triads: major, minor, diminished, and augmented without looking it up online? I remember my theory professor telling us about a woman who spent years trying to sing chords. Apparently she could not do two notes at once. I certainly applaud her efforts though.Right, I figured he was talking about an arpeggio but I honestly don’t really do that. I can however play triads starting on the first or second string, which any intermediate player should be able to do even the ones with a #5 or a flat 3 and 5 as asked. 
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Posted: 7/20/2024 6:29:35 PM EST
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Steve Howe was one of the best compositional shredders of all, especially in the '70s with Wakeman in Yes.
Listen to Awaken and understand it, and you have perspective on how unlimited songwriting can be. There's no conventional guitar shredding in it (although Wakeman shreds a grand pipe organ in an old Swiss cathedral and has cables routed up the hill to the studio!), but as a whole it's utterly amazing. It's not something you compare to rock bands of the today, you can compare it to the great classical masters.....it's in line with something they might have done if they had been young men in the 1970s instead of centuries before. A lot of the '80s shredders were very conservative (read...dull) from a compositional angle, they just needed some kind of vehicle to allow them to play fast leads on top over and over. That said, I love '80s shred, but the more adventurous/pioneering and the more song-oriented ones stayed with me more over time than the one trick ponies. I haven't bothered trying to name the "best" since I was a teenager, but I've always been aware of my favorites, especially the Top 10 and Top 20. No particular order, but these are essential for me and influences to my playing: Pagey EVH Hendrix Eric Johnson Al Di Meola John McLaughlin Rhoads Vai Bettencourt Y. J. Malmsteen Gilbert Kee Marcello Prince (mostly mid '80s) Neal Schon Howe Jake E. Lee Akira Takasaki Hetfield Wylde (mostly younger days....) Lifeson Murray/Smith Tony Iommi Allan Holdsworth Petrucci Robert Fripp |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 6:32:54 PM EST
[#5]
Andres Segovia
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Posted: 7/20/2024 6:46:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arpegiate the notes. It's not a trick question. Below is a simple major triad on 2 strings. ------5---8-- --6----------- . I just think it is a bit over the top to give people a quiz before they can comment on the greats. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 6:53:20 PM EST
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Poll fail, no Tom Scholz.
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Posted: 7/20/2024 6:54:02 PM EST
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Stanley Jordan would up there but I can't pin down an opinion on who is best. It's too subjective honestly.
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:00:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This will be a thread of people listing all of their favorite musicians who play guitar, so eventually all of the greats get mentioned. As soon as Paul Stanley or Mick Mars get mentioned, it is time to shut it down. If Jack White, The Edge or Taylor Swift get mentioned, it is time to nuke it and try again.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:02:04 PM EST
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Danny Gatton was the best guitar player that I've seen play live.
My favorite and most influential to me guitarist is Eddie Van Halen. Yngwie Malmsteen is on my Mt. Rushmore of guitarists. I enjoy the music of Prince and I suspect he was a musical genius; I don't think, however, that he was in the same league as the other guitarists in the poll. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:13:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get it, thus the . I just think it is a bit over the top to give people a quiz before they can comment on the greats.Yes, you must post an interesting way play a Bd before you’re allowed an opinion I suppose. Assuming he isn’t tuned to you.
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:14:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prince. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:15:56 PM EST
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I get that we are talking about more or less rock guitarists. My vote is for EVH. Yes, he could shred like no one else, but he could also rhythm and groove with a touch and feel that was insane, and then solo over the the top of it seamlessly in/out. His timing and picking/string attack had no equal. Listen to Mean Street, or Unchained. People who actually play guitar know... Insanity.
Alex Lifeson of Rush belongs on this list as well. The whole body of their music has exceptional guitar from a compositional and virtuosity standpoint. George Lynch of Dokken is a consummate shredder and also talented compositionally. Roy Clark could play ANY stringed instrument to the highest levels. The man was an extreme talent. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:16:50 PM EST
[#14]
Slash
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:22:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prince? Lol Where’s Satriani, Vai, Beck?  2021 Remaster "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" with Prince, Tom Petty, Jeff Lynne and Steve Winwood |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:24:29 PM EST
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LOL... these threads kill me. There is no such thing, and many of the players on these lists LOL at the premise as well. Paco de Lucia, John Williams, EVH, SRV, Glimour, Gary Moore, Bonamassa, Eric Johnson, Yngwie, George Benson, Alan Holdsworth, Uli John Roth, Al DeMiola, etc, etc, etc. Where the hell does it all start? And where does it all end? It's dumb and pointless.
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:26:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Steve Howe was one of the best compositional shredders of all, especially in the '70s with Wakeman in Yes. Listen to Awaken and understand it, and you have perspective on how unlimited songwriting can be. There's no conventional guitar shredding in it (although Wakeman shreds a grand pipe organ in an old Swiss cathedral and has cables routed up the hill to the studio!), but as a whole it's utterly amazing. It's not something you compare to rock bands of the today, you can compare it to the great classical masters.....it's in line with something they might have done if they had been young men in the 1970s instead of centuries before. A lot of the '80s shredders were very conservative (read...dull) from a compositional angle, they just needed some kind of vehicle to allow them to play fast leads on top over and over. That said, I love '80s shred, but the more adventurous/pioneering and the more song-oriented ones stayed with me more over time than the one trick ponies. I haven't bothered trying to name the "best" since I was a teenager, but I've always been aware of my favorites, especially the Top 10 and Top 20. No particular order, but these are essential for me and influences to my playing: Pagey EVH Hendrix Eric Johnson Al Di Meola John McLaughlin Rhoads Vai Bettencourt Y. J. Malmsteen Gilbert Kee Marcello Prince (mostly mid '80s) Neal Schon Howe Jake E. Lee Akira Takasaki Hetfield Wylde (mostly younger days....) Lifeson Murray/Smith Tony Iommi Allan Holdsworth Petrucci Robert Fripp Your list is good. It's great to see Takasaki, Yngwie, and Holdsworth mentioned. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:36:09 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Les Paul started it all. Warren Haynes is good as well Les. The pioneer of multi track recording, and basically invented/improved the electric guitar. Andres Segovia, in the classical sense. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:37:36 PM EST
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If you've never seen/heard Greg Koch, then a proper discussiin of "greatest guitarist" isn't in the cards. The guy is insanely insane. One of the funniest people alive, and his playing is so mindblowing that it makes you bust out laughing from the over-the-top, unbelievability of it all. I've sat 20 feet from the guy all night, just laughing out loud from the amazing playing. His words are hilarious, as are his licks.
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:51:35 PM EST
[#20]
"Greatest"
Of that list Eddie VanHalen was probably the greatest influence, greatest popularity, greatest impact as a guitarist specifically. I don't think any other guitarist, no matter how awesome has had the level of greatness in recognition or influence as EVH. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:54:10 PM EST
[#21]
Roy Clark
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Posted: 7/20/2024 7:57:35 PM EST
[#22]
Watch the last few minutes for the spoiler.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0GJO2SovRgU Got to watch him twice in 84 and it has always impressed me ever since. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 8:03:00 PM EST
[#23]
This guy
 tea spoon guitar ! or this guy  Ewan Dobson - Disk Read Error - Solo Guitar |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 8:04:11 PM EST
[#24]
Satrioni (sp?) and Vai even though I don't care for there style.
Jeff Beck Carlos Santana Alex Lifeson |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 8:08:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Roy Clark Probably one of my earliest influences. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 8:38:10 PM EST
[#26]
Stevie Ray Vaughn, Hendrix, Roy Buchanan, Billy Gibbons and Lonnie Mack.
In that order for me. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 8:51:56 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Prince. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 9:00:04 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Poll fail, no Tom Scholz. Damn great call! He was super melodic in addition to being technically excellent. To this day people can sing his solos, but all his guitar parts are perfect for the song and so sweet to listen too. He never gets enough credit. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 9:00:43 PM EST
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Quoted: Who do you guys consider the top 5 greatest guitarist’s of all time!?? Rock , Blues anything. The best guitarist that actually makes the guitar talk and the listener transported to another dimension. My choices Jimmy Page David Gilmour Eddie Van Halen Keith Richards Stevie Ray Vaughan Honorable mentions BB King Albert King Buddy Guy Satriani, Vai and Johnson ??? Poll fail!!! Joe Perry , slash, the edge??? ETA: I’m embarrassed to have not included Slowhand from the beginning. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 9:08:21 PM EST
[#30]
everyone forgets Richie Blackmore, in his own right, one of the masters.
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Posted: 7/20/2024 9:53:08 PM EST
[#31]
None of the above. Andrés Segovia |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:10:49 PM EST
[#32]
Paul Gilbert
 The Captain Meets Paul Gilbert (2017)  The Paul Gilbert Interview: Racer X to Mr. Big |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:14:38 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No Steve Vai? Yeah no kiddin! |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:19:58 PM EST
[#34]
Eddie
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:20:56 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tosin Abasi |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:22:55 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryI got to know him a little in the 90s when I moved him and his wife(now ex) from Northridge, CO to Vegas after the earthquake. Totally cool dude. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:25:44 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jimi Hendrix tops all on your list. You got the Jimmy Part but it's ***************** Jimmy Page ***************** |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:27:38 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I got to know him a little in the 90s when I moved him and his wife(now ex) from Northridge, CO to Vegas after the earthquake. Totally cool dude. That's cool, I just saw Mr Big in Clearwater and wished I would have paid for the VIP tickets to meet them. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:28:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This one will fly under most people's radar. But he is so freaking talented. Solid choice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tosin Abasi He's like Stanley Jordan. Crazy talented, but all the feel and emotion of a dead fish. True greats combine chops with fire/feel. Abasi might as well be an AI construct. I am utterly unmoved by his "music". But music is subjective of course. If listening to a typewriter moves you, more power to you.  |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:29:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's like Stanley Jordan. Crazy talented, but all the feel and emotion of a dead fish. True greats combine chops with fire/feel. Abasi might as well be an AI construct. I am utterly unmoved by his "music". But music is subjective of course. If listening to a typewriter moves you, more power to you. Yeah, it doesn't click with me either. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:30:42 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You got the Jimmy Part but it's ***************** Jimmy Page ***************** Great songwriter. Very sloppy guitarist. I'm no Hendrix devotee... but he changed the guitar universe paradigm. Page did not. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:32:24 PM EST
[#42]
So many are amazing and legendary. For me? Its easily Stevie Ray Vaughn, with Dimebag Darrel a close second.
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:33:07 PM EST
[#43]
Joe Pass
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:34:52 PM EST
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Hendrix was experimental.
Sheer talent, I vote Page or Prince. It’s amazing how Prince could shred and I never even knew the extent of it. Overall I vote Jerry Garcia. Yeah, hippie shit but that guy did things with a guitar others still can’t replicate to this day. He made a guitar sound like vocals. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:37:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, it doesn't click with me either. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He's like Stanley Jordan. Crazy talented, but all the feel and emotion of a dead fish. True greats combine chops with fire/feel. Abasi might as well be an AI construct. I am utterly unmoved by his "music". But music is subjective of course. If listening to a typewriter moves you, more power to you. Yeah, it doesn't click with me either. I think things have gotten so insanely over-the-top that we reached peak guitar hero a while back. I grew-up emulating my guitar idols (especially Yngwie), and am still gigging after 40 years. But in terms of listening to guitar music, I'd rather listen to a guy like Bonamassa these days than most technical monsters. Joe can shred a bit, but feel is his bag. Another guy who was like that was Gary Moore. He could burn, but the firey passion was always there too. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:39:34 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jimi Hendrix tops all on your list. Yeah, in a way at least, but the list is missing several million players to choose from. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:45:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think things have gotten so insanely over-the-top that we reached peak guitar hero a while back. I grew-up emulating my guitar idols (especially Yngwie), and am still gigging after 40 years. But in terms of listening to guitar music, I'd rather listen to a guy like Bonamassa these days than most technical monsters. Joe can shred a bit, but feel is his bag. Another guy who was like that was Gary Moore. He could burn, but the firey passion was always there too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He's like Stanley Jordan. Crazy talented, but all the feel and emotion of a dead fish. True greats combine chops with fire/feel. Abasi might as well be an AI construct. I am utterly unmoved by his "music". But music is subjective of course. If listening to a typewriter moves you, more power to you. Yeah, it doesn't click with me either. I think things have gotten so insanely over-the-top that we reached peak guitar hero a while back. I grew-up emulating my guitar idols (especially Yngwie), and am still gigging after 40 years. But in terms of listening to guitar music, I'd rather listen to a guy like Bonamassa these days than most technical monsters. Joe can shred a bit, but feel is his bag. Another guy who was like that was Gary Moore. He could burn, but the firey passion was always there too. I agree with all of that. Technical chops are great and dazzling but something like being able to bend between two notes and make someone cry or reflect, make something memorable, that to me is what makes someone truly great. Not that it can’t be done in other ways of course, I just use that as an example. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:50:17 PM EST
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The best is not on your list, Terry Kath with Chicago, the man the Hendrix said was the best guitarist in the world
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:53:30 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with all of that. Technical chops are great and dazzling but something like being able to bend between two notes and make someone cry or reflect, make something memorable, that to me is what makes someone truly great. Not that it can’t be done in other ways of course, I just use that as an example. Agreed. Memorable phrasing is far more important than endless shred. Neal Schon certainly spends a lot of time playing pentatonic shred solos that no one cares about, but it's his stuff like "Who's Cryin Now", "Don't Stop Believin", "Any Way You Want It" and others that even people who care nothing about guitar playing can sing note-for-note. THAT is true greatness. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 10:54:10 PM EST
[#50]
Jerry Garcia needs an honorable mention.
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