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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:19:12 PM EST

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In a perfect world, an usher would have mopped up the shooter's brains and everyone could resume watching the movie.

If only

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:20:09 PM EST

[#2]

I'm at a loss for words.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:24:53 PM EST

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Because staying behind and getting shot and leaving that family without a dad is so manly.

I'm not saying he should have ran out but I think he should have at least helped him family and not ran by himself but I don't fault him for not wanting to die.

I see what you're saying, but I have to ask, do you have kids?

I would do everything in my power to save my kids.

eta Not that I would bring little kids to a midnight showing of anything, ever.

Having kids or not having kids doesn't change what I wrote. He shouldn't have ran out without his family but in the moment, some people freak out/panic and don't think about things like that. Not everyone is Billy Badass.

/shrug

You do not have to try to be "Billy Bad Ass" to try to get your family out of danger. No one is saying this guy should have jumped up, charged into the line of fire, and tried to wrestle the guy to the ground. However, jumping up and running as fast as you can for the exit while leaving your two kids and girlfriend behind to die is well... despicable.

Those were his survival instincts. If people want to call him a pussy and a coward for it, then so be it. But not everyone is going to feel that way.

You can make all the excuses for him you want. Leaving behind one's children in the face of danger is never acceptable.

I don't need to make any excuses for him.

And that's YOUR (and a lot of peoples' opinions on here but Arfcom isn't the fucking world) opinion......apparently his opinion was different. He had/has the wrong opinion. /shrug

You're right, kind of, but I don't think either you're explaining it well or many are not understanding what you're saying.

He IS a coward, big time. If something did happen to his children he would have been an even bigger shitstain of a man.

That's what he IS, no buts about it.

Remember that story about the family in conneticut, that doctor whose wife and daughter were followed home from shopping by those two dirt bags. They climbed in the basement window, UNARMED tied up the father, raped and girls, took the mom back out to the bank to withdraw money, killed the mom and tied the girls to their beds and set the house on fire.
The older sister managed to get loose, died trying to save her sister. Only after the house was on fire and the father was personally in mortal danger did he manage to get free and save his own worthless ass.

He has to live with himself but probably justifies it somehow.

I want to say that it is part of the "me,me,me" era, but I'm not sure. There just seems like there's far more worthless cowards around now than there ever were.

Unfortunately there weren't any Samuel Williamses in the theatre that night.

Good point about the other dad who didn't try to save his wife and daughters.

At first I wasn't sure that he wasn't just found by police but his own testimony at trial describes how he just left out the door, never even attempting to save his wife and daughters.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:27:52 PM EST

[#4]

Thanks for not referring to this pussy as a man.

Seriously... WTF is wrong with him?

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:28:24 PM EST

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Because staying behind and getting shot and leaving that family without a dad is so manly.

I'm not saying he should have ran out but I think he should have at least helped him family and not ran by himself but I don't fault him for not wanting to die.

There are things worse than death. The cowardice stain of leaving your children to save yourself is one of those things.

+1

I can't imagine leaving my kids in that situation. Risking my life to save them wouldn't even take thought. It would be purely instinctual. There would be no other option, and I can honestly say this has nothing to do with being "Billy Badass",

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:37:58 PM EST

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First off, most people can only speculate on what they would do when the bullets start flying, I would say most in society as well as most in here haven't been in the same dark room with someone who opened fire randomly on people. Pretty easy to say "I'm a man" while hiding behind a computer. I've never been under fire, I don't know what I'd do to be honest, I would hope I would watch out for my family but once bullets start flying the ol "fight or flight" kicks in and only then do you know what you would do.

But keep it up tough guys!!

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:40:25 PM EST

[#7]

I said a lot of people were sheepish and cowards in the whole ordeal in the main thread and people gave me shit, but I wasn't off base even if I was "insensitive". I know the situation sucked, but some people are just downright cowards especially with children to protect.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:41:49 PM EST

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First off, most people can only speculate on what they would do when the bullets start flying, I would say most in society as well as most in here haven't been in the same dark room with someone who opened fire randomly on people. Pretty easy to say "I'm a man" while hiding behind a computer. I've never been under fire, I don't know what I'd do to be honest, I would hope I would watch out for my family but once bullets start flying the ol "fight or flight" kicks in and only then do you know what you would do.

But keep it up tough guys!!

When you exist at the bottom of a barrel it feels better to ridicule anyone above you.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:42:37 PM EST

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Honestly, I think the fact he has admitted this for the whole world to see is the worst part. How can you admit to something like that?

Pussies apparently don't have a sense of shame?

He probably has no clue it was wrong to do in the first place.

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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:44:16 PM EST

[#10]

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First off, most people can only speculate on what they would do when the bullets start flying, I would say most in society as well as most in here haven't been in the same dark room with someone who opened fire randomly on people. Pretty easy to say "I'm a man" while hiding behind a computer. I've never been under fire, I don't know what I'd do to be honest, I would hope I would watch out for my family but once bullets start flying the ol "fight or flight" kicks in and only then do you know what you would do.

But keep it up tough guys!!

You're wrong. Either you don't have kids, or you're mis-wired like the guy in the video. I pray it's the former.

I fully understand what you're saying, and it may apply in many situations, but not when one's own kids are involved.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:45:52 PM EST

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This guy is a textbook definition of a coward. It seems he has no concept of courage as he sees no shame in what he has done.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:46:39 PM EST

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Don't know if anyone caught this, but 19 year-old Jarell Brooks actually braved what the flat-bill wearing pussy couldn't do in the first place.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dark-knight-rises-shooting-victim-stopped-young-mom/story?id=16822336#.UApsQp8tiz0

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Jarell Brooks, 19, has been released from Denver General Hospital and is now recovering at home after he suffered a gunshot wound to the leg after James Holmes, once a Ph.D. candidate at the University of Colorado, allegedly set off smoke bombs and opened fire on the unsuspecting audience, killing 12 people and injuring at least 50 in the attack. He was quickly apprehended by authorities.

Brooks said that when Holmes started shooting everyone scrambled for the exits. While trying to get out of the theater, he saw a woman, later identified as Patricia Legarreta, struggling to get herself and her two children out. He said he crawled on top of Legarreta in an attempt to push her and the kids out the door but then couldn't get out himself.

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ETA: Can't quote for shit

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:49:13 PM EST

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oh so many tough guys that know exactly what they'd do when tear gas is popped off in a dark room and bullets start flying. I'm feeling rather inferior around so many high speed/low drag operators that have been there and done that...........

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:51:35 PM EST

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Even though I do not have children, my father made it a point of pounding it into my head that the instant you become a parent that child is to become THE single most important person in your life.

It's a father's duty to protect is wife/girlfriend and children at all costs. Period.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:51:50 PM EST

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Don't know if anyone caught this, but 19 year-old Jarell Brooks actually braved what the flat-bill wearing pussy couldn't do in the first place.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dark-knight-rises-shooting-victim-stopped-young-mom/story?id=16822336#.UApsQp8tiz0

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Jarell Brooks, 19, has been released from Denver General Hospital and is now recovering at home after he suffered a gunshot wound to the leg after James Holmes, once a Ph.D. candidate at the University of Colorado, allegedly set off smoke bombs and opened fire on the unsuspecting audience, killing 12 people and injuring at least 50 in the attack. He was quickly apprehended by authorities.

Brooks said that when Holmes started shooting everyone scrambled for the exits. While trying to get out of the theater, he saw a woman, later identified as Patricia Legarreta, struggling to get herself and her two children out. He said he crawled on top of Legarreta in an attempt to push her and the kids out the door but then couldn't get out himself.

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ETA: Can't quote for shit

Nice, good on him.

Can you imagine growing up with flatbilldouchecoward as your dad? Poor kids.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:52:16 PM EST

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oh so many tough guys that know exactly what they'd do when tear gas is popped off in a dark room and bullets start flying. I'm feeling rather inferior around so many high speed/low drag operators that have been there and done that...........

You should.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:53:11 PM EST

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oh so many tough guys that know exactly what they'd do when tear gas is popped off in a dark room and bullets start flying. I'm feeling rather inferior around so many high speed/low drag operators that have been there and done that...........

You should.

ok tough guy!

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:53:29 PM EST

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oh so many tough guys that know exactly what they'd do when tear gas is popped off in a dark room and bullets start flying. I'm feeling rather inferior around so many high speed/low drag operators that have been there and done that...........

Dude.

Its just natural instinct. The man is inhuman for leaving his kids to die.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:54:16 PM EST

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oh so many tough guys that know exactly what they'd do when tear gas is popped off in a dark room and bullets start flying. I'm feeling rather inferior around so many high speed/low drag operators that have been there and done that...........

So who's troll account is this?

Go away.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:56:12 PM EST

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oh so many tough guys that know exactly what they'd do when tear gas is popped off in a dark room and bullets start flying. I'm feeling rather inferior around so many high speed/low drag operators that have been there and done that...........

Seriously?

It's instinctual for men to protect the ones they love.

There's no fucking way I'm running and leaving them behind.

I'd rather die.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:56:22 PM EST

[#21]

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Don't know if anyone caught this, but 19 year-old Jarell Brooks actually braved what the flat-bill wearing pussy couldn't do in the first place.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dark-knight-rises-shooting-victim-stopped-young-mom/story?id=16822336#.UApsQp8tiz0

....

Jarell Brooks, 19, has been released from Denver General Hospital and is now recovering at home after he suffered a gunshot wound to the leg after James Holmes, once a Ph.D. candidate at the University of Colorado, allegedly set off smoke bombs and opened fire on the unsuspecting audience, killing 12 people and injuring at least 50 in the attack. He was quickly apprehended by authorities.

Brooks said that when Holmes started shooting everyone scrambled for the exits. While trying to get out of the theater, he saw a woman, later identified as Patricia Legarreta, struggling to get herself and her two children out. He said he crawled on top of Legarreta in an attempt to push her and the kids out the door but then couldn't get out himself.

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ETA: Can't quote for shit

Incredible.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:56:28 PM EST

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Can you imagine growing up with flatbilldouchecoward as your dad? Poor kids.

So much for those kids arguing in the school yard about how my dad could kick your dad's ass.

Lucky for those children he's the type of douche nozzle to abandon them any minute.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:56:40 PM EST

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oh so many tough guys that know exactly what they'd do when tear gas is popped off in a dark room and bullets start flying. I'm feeling rather inferior around so many high speed/low drag operators that have been there and done that...........

You should.

ok tough guy!

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:56:56 PM EST

[#24]

I"m no one's troll account, I'm just trying to point out the fact that unless you've served and seen combat up close and personal you have no idea what your instinct will tell you to do. It should tell you to protect them but until you've been there all you can do is hope.

Posted: 7/20/2012 11:59:49 PM EST

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I"m no one's troll account, I'm just trying to point out the fact that unless you've served and seen combat up close and personal you have no idea what your instinct will tell you to do. It should tell you to protect them but until you've been there all you can do is hope.

Shut up. You're embarrassing yourself, and us.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:00:10 AM EST

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I"m no one's troll account, I'm just trying to point out the fact that unless you've served and seen combat up close and personal you have no idea what your instinct will tell you to do. It should tell you to protect them but until you've been there all you can do is hope.

Parents die for their kids. It's the way it's supposed to be.

No real man would abandon his children in a time of need. (There are a lot of disgraceful 'men' in our current society though)

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:00:42 AM EST

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Thanks for not referring to this pussy as a man.

Seriously... WTF is wrong with him?

If I ever did that, my dad wuold disown me only after knocking the snot out of me!!!

I'm not saying he had to be a superhero, just grab your kids and haul out of there with your girlfriend...

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:04:59 AM EST

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science has proven the flight or fight response. for most its just a natural instinct, an automatic reflex.

a lot of us here have been trained to face danger, either in the military or law enforcement/corrections. but even then, it doesnt always work out the way we plan or think in our minds when SHTF.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:07:20 AM EST

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I"m no one's troll account, I'm just trying to point out the fact that unless you've served and seen combat up close and personal you have no idea what your instinct will tell you to do. It should tell you to protect them but until you've been there all you can do is hope.

Shut up. You're embarrassing yourself, and us.

I might add "grow up". I pray he's not a dad.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:07:20 AM EST

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science has proven the flight or fight response. for most its just a natural instinct, an automatic reflex.

a lot of us here have been trained to face danger, either in the military or law enforcement/corrections. but even then, it doesnt always work out the way we plan or think in our minds when SHTF.

Flight includes scooping up your kids and running.

No one is even saying he had to fight, just grab kids and run.

He is a failure as a human.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:08:05 AM EST

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science has proven the flight or fight response. for most its just a natural instinct, an automatic reflex.

a lot of us here have been trained to face danger, either in the military or law enforcement/corrections. but even then, it doesnt always work out the way we plan or think in our minds when SHTF.

Flight could include scooping up your kids and running.

No one is even saying he had to fight, just grab kids and run.

He is a failure as a human.

This.

That man is a coward.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:10:27 AM EST

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science has proven the flight or fight response. for most its just a natural instinct, an automatic reflex.

a lot of us here have been trained to face danger, either in the military or law enforcement/corrections. but even then, it doesnt always work out the way we plan or think in our minds when SHTF.

Flight includes scooping up your kids and running.

No one is even saying he had to fight, just grab kids and run.

He is a failure as a human.

Right again...

Protecting your offspring is another instinct. I can't imagine leaving a child behind.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:11:51 AM EST

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Can you imagine growing up with flatbilldouchecoward as your dad? Poor kids.

So much for those kids arguing in the school yard about how my dad could kick your dad's ass.

Lucky for those children he's the type of douche nozzle to abandon them any minute.

Wonder if the g/f picked up on that...

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Posted: 7/21/2012 12:13:24 AM EST

[#34]

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I"m no one's troll account, I'm just trying to point out the fact that unless you've served and seen combat up close and personal you have no idea what your instinct will tell you to do. It should tell you to protect them but until you've been there all you can do is hope.

That's bullshit.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:16:52 AM EST

[#35]

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I"m no one's troll account, I'm just trying to point out the fact that unless you've served and seen combat up close and personal you have no idea what your instinct will tell you to do. It should tell you to protect them but until you've been there all you can do is hope.

Men and women have gone hand-to-hand with Mountain Lions and Bears to protect their children or spouse. Mothers and fathers have been burned alive trying to reach their trapped children. It is natural and instinctive to protect the people that you love, it is unnatural and cowardly to abandon your children in the face of any sort of danger.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:17:32 AM EST

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Can you imagine growing up with flatbilldouchecoward as your dad? Poor kids.

So much for those kids arguing in the school yard about how my dad could kick your dad's ass.

Lucky for those children he's the type of douche nozzle to abandon them any minute.

Wonder if the g/f picked up on that...

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Obviously not as she agreed to marry him.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:19:01 AM EST

[#37]

well, this cowardly father is taking his family on vacation in the morning so I'll let you all get back to your chest pounding

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:19:23 AM EST

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Can you imagine growing up with flatbilldouchecoward as your dad? Poor kids.

So much for those kids arguing in the school yard about how my dad could kick your dad's ass.

Lucky for those children he's the type of douche nozzle to abandon them any minute.

Wonder if the g/f picked up on that...

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Obviously not as she agreed to marry him.

So they got engaged after the theater incident?

I'm hoping she saw him flake and decided to get out of the relationship.

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Posted: 7/21/2012 12:20:09 AM EST

[#39]

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well, this cowardly father is taking his family on vacation in the morning so I'll let you all get back to your chest pounding

Don't forget to take them with you!

ROFL, I keeeed.

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Posted: 7/21/2012 12:20:41 AM EST

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Can you imagine growing up with flatbilldouchecoward as your dad? Poor kids.

So much for those kids arguing in the school yard about how my dad could kick your dad's ass.

Lucky for those children he's the type of douche nozzle to abandon them any minute.

Wonder if the g/f picked up on that...

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If she ain't thinking it now, she'll never get the hint. Either way the pillow talk just won't be the same.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:28:01 AM EST

[#41]

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well, this cowardly father is taking his family on vacation in the morning so I'll let you all get back to your chest pounding

Avoid bad neighborhoods and scary situations.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:38:51 AM EST

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well, this cowardly father is taking his family on vacation in the morning so I'll let you all get back to your chest pounding

Don't forget to take them with you!

ROFL, I keeeed.

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LMAO, that was pretty good

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:39:12 AM EST

[#43]

"The couple then reunited outside the cinema, after Ms Legratta phoned her fiance who had driven away from the scene."

After he got outside he got in his car and drove away.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:42:37 AM EST

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"The couple then reunited outside the cinema, after Ms Legratta phoned her fiance who had driven away from the scene."

After he got outside he got in his car and drove away.

I must admit, that is a whole other level of douchebag there

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:43:45 AM EST

[#45]

What a shameful display.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:44:20 AM EST

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"The couple then reunited outside the cinema, after Ms Legratta phoned her fiance who had driven away from the scene."

After he got outside he got in his car and drove away.

I must admit, that is a whole other level of douchebag there

WOW...

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:48:32 AM EST

[#47]

Imagine Thanksgiving with the inlaws.

"I came baaaack!!!"

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:49:31 AM EST

[#48]

After this all dies down, he won't marry her.

He only proposed in the hospital as a vain attempt to salvage his honor.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:52:17 AM EST

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After this all dies down, he won't marry her.

He only proposed in the hospital as a vain attempt to salvage his honor.

I've got to wonder why the hell she would say yes. This was the ultimate test and he failed, he cannot take care of her and their children.

Posted: 7/21/2012 12:52:52 AM EST

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"The couple then reunited outside the cinema, after Ms Legratta phoned her fiance who had driven away from the scene."

After he got outside he got in his car and drove away.

Okay now that's unforgivable. 'Flight' response and getting out of the theatre is one thing, but also driving off and leaving your partner and kids stranded at the scene of a mass-murder is pretty heinous.

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