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I continue to wait for this "perp walk" and continue to believe that I was smarter than those of you who predicted it back a billion pages ago. She will get off scott free.
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Quoted: Of course she will. She always does... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I continue to wait for this "perp walk" and continue to believe that I was smarter than those of you who predicted it back a billion pages ago. She will get off scott free. Of course she will. She always does... |
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FIY. Contractors most certainly can conduct"official" business with the gov using their contractor-owned servers. And I'm not entirely certainthe gov employee restriction is not just "policy" vice law. Now, in Clinton's case, she most certainly could have had a SCIF with JWICS and SIPR terminals installed in her house at taxpayer expense if she asked for it. I'd bet WHCA installed a STE as a matter of course for Cabinet members. She had to deliberately try to do what she did. ETA - and I heard GEN Hayden (former DIRNSA/DCI) on the radio this evening say that he would lose all respect for a lot of foreign intelligence agencies if they had not sucked her personal server dry. View Quote The vast majority of contractors conduct their official business on servers provided by the hiring organization. If a contract company is operating their own systems, particularly in the case of Classified, those systems must meet the same configuration and physical security standards as the Government systems and are subject to inspection for compliance. |
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Quoted: You could both very well be right, but it has already gone a lot further than I expected it to go, and it appears to be picking up some steam. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I continue to wait for this "perp walk" and continue to believe that I was smarter than those of you who predicted it back a billion pages ago. She will get off scott free. Of course she will. She always does... |
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If you play your cards right, her pals will hang her out to dry.
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You could both very well be right, but it has already gone a lot further than I expected it to go, and it appears to be picking up some steam. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I continue to wait for this "perp walk" and continue to believe that I was smarter than those of you who predicted it back a billion pages ago. She will get off scott free. Of course she will. She always does... According to who? The media reports? Government officials? They're gonna continue to "let it pick up steam" , until the correct time when the AG will come out and proclaim everything is good, after a hundred million dollar investigation , she's totally innocent of all charges. It's a scam . It always has been. Repubs get to "look tough" on Dems , while Dems claim they police their own. It's a complete joke, the gov is a joke, laws only apply to little people |
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Any updates on when this DOJ will indict her? View Quote I'm guessing that IF (and that's a big IF) it's going to happen, it will be after she's gotten enough Delegates to 'win' the Primary by a fairly comfortable margin. At that point, She'll be indicted, and as part of a 'plea' (probably already arranged*****), Biden will step in as her successor with her 'transferring' those Delegates to Biden...that allows the Dem establishment to keep control of who they run instead of having to stick with Sanders. ((******If I had to guess the details of the Plea, it's that she continue to run as I mentioned above...they'll withhold prosecution until she's the clear winner. She'll get a Pardon from Barry so she'll be able to claim that it was the 'Vast Right Wing Conspiracy' going after poor Hillary who's not very Tech Savvy and didn't realize it could be a problem. A top Aide may fall on their sword for her. Hillary will still get millions in speaking fees, Obama and the Dems get to choose the successor rather than actually listening to the public.....)) |
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I would not be surprised if our current AG when confronted with enough evidence to indict will pass on it. I would not be surprised if the WH grants a pardon in the spirit allowing the first viable female presidential candidate to run. Should that happen, we will cease to be a nation of laws, and should Hillary be elected she will rightfully believe herself to be beyond the reach of the law, set apart from the citizenry. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Other than these limitations, the President's power seems plenary and quite flexible. Pardons can be granted at any time after a crime has been committed: before federal criminal charges are brought, after conviction and sentencing, or any time in between.
They can even be granted after the full sentence has been served, solely to restore the pardonee's civil rights. The President can give amnesty to a vast group of federal offenders, or he can pardon a single offender for a broad, unspecified range of crimes.' I wonder if a pardon for future acts that haven't even been committed yet would be kosher. There's essentially no limit to the President's power to pardon. I would not be surprised if our current AG when confronted with enough evidence to indict will pass on it. I would not be surprised if the WH grants a pardon in the spirit allowing the first viable female presidential candidate to run. Should that happen, we will cease to be a nation of laws, and should Hillary be elected she will rightfully believe herself to be beyond the reach of the law, set apart from the citizenry. Every Hillary supporter I know does not care that she broke the law, admits there is a double standard, and is OK with that. |
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I read on the internet (so you know its true) that the 22 top secret emails were reclassified after the fact (cnn maybe). I don't know whats going to happen, either Hillary will be president or Donald will be. Either way a democrat will be in office. |
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I read on the internet (so you know its true) that the 22 top secret emails were reclassified after the fact (cnn maybe). I don't know whats going to happen, either Hillary will be president or Donald will be. Either way a democrat will be in office. View Quote That's a common, although incorrect, understanding of what happened. |
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Wow! 43 pages so far for a non event. That pos will never ever get her just dues for anything. There will never be any justice metered out to her and most of the protected class. A few minions will be made to answer for her traitorous behavior but not her nor any big shots. A sad status report for a former "greatest country in the world" now being turned into a third world shithole, albeit slowly.
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Wow! 43 pages so far for a non event. That pos will never ever get her just dues for anything. There will never be any justice metered out to her and most of the protected class. A few minions will be made to answer for her traitorous behavior but not her nor any big shots. A sad status report for a former "greatest country in the world" now being turned into a third world shithole, albeit slowly. View Quote Actually, at least 2/3 of the 43 pages is people saying nothing will happen over and over and over again. |
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Actually, at least 2/3 of the 43 pages is people saying nothing will happen over and over and over again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wow! 43 pages so far for a non event. That pos will never ever get her just dues for anything. There will never be any justice metered out to her and most of the protected class. A few minions will be made to answer for her traitorous behavior but not her nor any big shots. A sad status report for a former "greatest country in the world" now being turned into a third world shithole, albeit slowly. Actually, at least 2/3 of the 43 pages is people saying nothing will happen over and over and over again. Thanks for helping make my point. |
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Can a sitting President send an unofficial email? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He sent emails to her private server. If they didn't contain classified information, who cares? Can a sitting President send an unofficial email? Doesn't matter if he sent his from .gov, it's archived. |
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I remain both sceptic all, and hopeful that Hillary will be perp walked. However, the realist in me does not believe it will ever happen.
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I remain both sceptical, and hopeful that Hillary will be perp walked. However, the realist in me does not believe it will ever happen.
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I read on the internet (so you know its true) that the 22 top secret emails were reclassified after the fact (cnn maybe). I don't know whats going to happen, either Hillary will be president or Donald will be. Either way a democrat will be in office. View Quote The majority of the classified emails were classified retroactively, after review. So, when Dem activists say it's a tempest in a teapot, they have a plausible, factual reason. However, the emails that were classified when they went into and out of FHRC's unsecured system were significant enough for felony conviction and damage to US sources and methods. So when people who believe in rule of law and national security say she's guilty as hell and should be in jail, they have a plausible, factual reason. One of those points of view depends on the selective application of reality and ignoring inconvenient facts. |
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There's essentially no limit to the President's power to pardon.
I would not be surprised if our current AG when confronted with enough evidence to indict will pass on it. I would not be surprised if the WH grants a pardon in the spirit allowing the first viable female presidential candidate to run. Should that happen, we will cease to be a nation of laws, and should Hillary be elected she will rightfully believe herself to be beyond the reach of the law, set apart from the citizenry. Every Hillary supporter I know does not care that she broke the law, admits there is a double standard, and is OK with that. View Quote “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” Benjamin Franklin |
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According to who? The media reports? Government officials? They're gonna continue to "let it pick up steam" , until the correct time when the AG will come out and proclaim everything is good, after a hundred million dollar investigation , she's totally innocent of all charges. It's a scam . It always has been. Repubs get to "look tough" on Dems , while Dems claim they police their own. It's a complete joke, the gov is a joke, laws only apply to little people View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I continue to wait for this "perp walk" and continue to believe that I was smarter than those of you who predicted it back a billion pages ago. She will get off scott free. Of course she will. She always does... According to who? The media reports? Government officials? They're gonna continue to "let it pick up steam" , until the correct time when the AG will come out and proclaim everything is good, after a hundred million dollar investigation , she's totally innocent of all charges. It's a scam . It always has been. Repubs get to "look tough" on Dems , while Dems claim they police their own. It's a complete joke, the gov is a joke, laws only apply to little people BINGO..........this government is illegitimate. |
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The majority of the classified emails were classified retroactively, after review. So, when Dem activists say it's a tempest in a teapot, they have a plausible, factual reason. However, the emails that were classified when they went into and out of FHRC's unsecured system were significant enough for felony conviction and damage to US sources and methods. So when people who believe in rule of law and national security say she's guilty as hell and should be in jail, they have a plausible, factual reason. One of those points of view depends on the selective application of reality and ignoring inconvenient facts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I read on the internet (so you know its true) that the 22 top secret emails were reclassified after the fact (cnn maybe). I don't know whats going to happen, either Hillary will be president or Donald will be. Either way a democrat will be in office. The majority of the classified emails were classified retroactively, after review. So, when Dem activists say it's a tempest in a teapot, they have a plausible, factual reason. However, the emails that were classified when they went into and out of FHRC's unsecured system were significant enough for felony conviction and damage to US sources and methods. So when people who believe in rule of law and national security say she's guilty as hell and should be in jail, they have a plausible, factual reason. One of those points of view depends on the selective application of reality and ignoring inconvenient facts. her communications were supposed to be on a government server, all transmissions were supposed to be the property of the US Government, plain and simple she broke her oath, she broke the law. She, she does not, did not get to pick and choose what was government property. She was not to use the office as a fund acquisition site for her campaign, read that the Clinton Initiative. She is a criminal plain and simple. |
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Quoted: her communications were supposed to be on a government server, all transmissions were supposed to be the property of the US Government, plain and simple she broke her oath, she broke the law. She, she does not, did not get to pick and choose what was government property. She was not to use the office as a fund acquisition site for her campaign, read that the Clinton Initiative. She is a criminal plain and simple. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I read on the internet (so you know its true) that the 22 top secret emails were reclassified after the fact (cnn maybe). I don't know whats going to happen, either Hillary will be president or Donald will be. Either way a democrat will be in office. The majority of the classified emails were classified retroactively, after review. So, when Dem activists say it's a tempest in a teapot, they have a plausible, factual reason. However, the emails that were classified when they went into and out of FHRC's unsecured system were significant enough for felony conviction and damage to US sources and methods. So when people who believe in rule of law and national security say she's guilty as hell and should be in jail, they have a plausible, factual reason. One of those points of view depends on the selective application of reality and ignoring inconvenient facts. her communications were supposed to be on a government server, all transmissions were supposed to be the property of the US Government, plain and simple she broke her oath, she broke the law. She, she does not, did not get to pick and choose what was government property. She was not to use the office as a fund acquisition site for her campaign, read that the Clinton Initiative. She is a criminal plain and simple. |
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Well i hope the appropriate agencies are taking precautions assuming the worst possible breach has taken place.
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She might not have something specific on him but he's knee deep in this email thing as well and nobody is talking about it. There's no possible way that he, as President, could not have known what was going on and that it was illegal. He's complicit as hell in this and if she goes to trial it will all come out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not sure he can give pre-emptive pardons. He absolutely could. How do you think Nixon's pardon happened? Exactly. But why would he? What makes everyone so sure she "has something" on him? She's not the evil mastermind she's being made out to be. She's just a stupid narcissistic crook. He has the power to send her to prison. Granting her pardon would be his legacy, just like Nixon was to Ford. Even worse, because Nixon had at least been dethroned before he was pardoned, and that was over political games, not national security and lives. No chance he fears her so much that he would let her be his legacy. Besides, he want's Bill's gig. She might not have something specific on him but he's knee deep in this email thing as well and nobody is talking about it. There's no possible way that he, as President, could not have known what was going on and that it was illegal. He's complicit as hell in this and if she goes to trial it will all come out. He has claimed executive privilege to avoid releasing the emails between them. At the very least it is clear he sent emails to her private account. |
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He claimed privilege on 6 emails, none of which contained classified info. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not sure he can give pre-emptive pardons. He absolutely could. How do you think Nixon's pardon happened? Exactly. But why would he? What makes everyone so sure she "has something" on him? She's not the evil mastermind she's being made out to be. She's just a stupid narcissistic crook. He has the power to send her to prison. Granting her pardon would be his legacy, just like Nixon was to Ford. Even worse, because Nixon had at least been dethroned before he was pardoned, and that was over political games, not national security and lives. No chance he fears her so much that he would let her be his legacy. Besides, he want's Bill's gig. She might not have something specific on him but he's knee deep in this email thing as well and nobody is talking about it. There's no possible way that he, as President, could not have known what was going on and that it was illegal. He's complicit as hell in this and if she goes to trial it will all come out. He claimed privilege on 6 emails, none of which contained classified info. That's what they claim. Were they independtly reviewed by someone other than State? |
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He sent emails to her private server. If they didn't contain classified information, who cares? Who says they didn't contain classified info? Was it reviewed by someone other than State? Also, there is plenty of communications that are not classified that could be damaging to Obama. What if Obama was using HIS private email server? |
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Who says they didn't contain classified info? Was it reviewed by someone other than State? Also, there is plenty of communications that are not classified that could be damaging to Obama. What if Obama was using HIS private email server? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He sent emails to her private server. If they didn't contain classified information, who cares? Who says they didn't contain classified info? Was it reviewed by someone other than State? Also, there is plenty of communications that are not classified that could be damaging to Obama. What if Obama was using HIS private email server? Secondly, even without any classified records there still is the issue of official records. By emailing with her on official business to her private server "the most tech-savvy president ever" should have known that they were violating record keeping laws. |
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Secondly, even without any classified records there still is the issue of official records. By emailing with her on official business to her private server "the most tech-savvy president ever" should have known that they were violating record keeping laws. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He sent emails to her private server. If they didn't contain classified information, who cares? Who says they didn't contain classified info? Was it reviewed by someone other than State? Also, there is plenty of communications that are not classified that could be damaging to Obama. What if Obama was using HIS private email server? Secondly, even without any classified records there still is the issue of official records. By emailing with her on official business to her private server "the most tech-savvy president ever" should have known that they were violating record keeping laws. They said six emails. Not much of a crime. |
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They said six emails. Not much of a crime. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Any custodian of a public record who "willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys (any record) shall be fined not more than $2,000 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States." Just a small felony with a lifetime prohibition on public office. |
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They said six emails. Not much of a crime. Any custodian of a public record who "willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys (any record) shall be fined not more than $2,000 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States." Just a small felony with a lifetime prohibition on public office. I guess you are assuming that he used a private server, also. Because if he used the official .gov server like a good government employee, there would be a record of the emails on his end, both coming and going. Therefore, he is not guilty of the charge you quoted. |
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I read on the internet (so you know its true) that the 22 top secret emails were reclassified after the fact (cnn maybe). I don't know whats going to happen, either Hillary will be president or Donald will be. Either way a democrat will be in office. View Quote There are plenty of political threads you can post your hatred for Trump in. This thread is about the Clinton email scandal exclusively. Take your shit to one of the Trump threads and keep that crap out of this thread. You are just trying to get the thread locked and trashed. |
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Attorney General Loretta Lynch will appear on Fox News Special Report with Brett Baier on Monday at 6:00 pm. Harris Faulkner of Fox News is reporting that Lynch will appear in an attempt to reassure the American people that the Justice Department is taking the investigation seriously.
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Attorney General Loretta Lynch will appear on Fox News Special Report with Brett Baier on Monday at 6:00 pm. Harris Faulkner of Fox News is reporting that Lynch will appear in an attempt to reassure the American people that the Justice Department is taking the investigation seriously. View Quote That's much better than this administration's previous use of 1. the tactical ignore or 2. insulting the people heading the investigation. Let's see, Dear Leader hates the Clintons, loves socialism (ala Bernie), and might want to legitimize Lynch as a "fair and balanced" AG (further putting the GOP under the gun for a nomination to the SC). I could see them actually moving on Clinton... Hell, they are even going through their nemesis channel! |
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Any updates on when this DOJ will indict her? If you are just shitting in the thread and have nothing substantial to add you are free to start your own thread on any subject you wish. Ok.....ok, I'll say something serious................ A couple of weeks ago I saw a taped speech of Lynch's where Holder was being given an award for his contributions to the Movement. In that speech what I saw of Lynch is she is a rabid liberal, who deep down inside does NOT like America and is racist to her core. She gave me the impression that in her heart of hearts she most likely considers white males who own semi auto rifles to be more of an enemy to America than radical Islam. NOW THAT IS WHY I AM VERY SKEPTICAL that she and/or Obama will EVER indict Hillary. |
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Ok.....ok, I'll say something serious................ A couple of weeks ago I saw a taped speech of Lynch's where Holder was being given an award for his contributions to the Movement. In that speech what I saw of Lynch is she is a rabid liberal, who deep down inside does NOT like America and is racist to her core. She gave me the impression that in her heart of hearts she most likely considers white males who own semi auto rifles to be more of an enemy to America than radical Islam. NOW THAT IS WHY I AM VERY SKEPTICAL that she and/or Obama will EVER indict Hillary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any updates on when this DOJ will indict her? If you are just shitting in the thread and have nothing substantial to add you are free to start your own thread on any subject you wish. Ok.....ok, I'll say something serious................ A couple of weeks ago I saw a taped speech of Lynch's where Holder was being given an award for his contributions to the Movement. In that speech what I saw of Lynch is she is a rabid liberal, who deep down inside does NOT like America and is racist to her core. She gave me the impression that in her heart of hearts she most likely considers white males who own semi auto rifles to be more of an enemy to America than radical Islam. NOW THAT IS WHY I AM VERY SKEPTICAL that she and/or Obama will EVER indict Hillary. your not allowed to be skeptical of her indictment in here. didnt you know? |
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Ok.....ok, I'll say something serious................ A couple of weeks ago I saw a taped speech of Lynch's where Holder was being given an award for his contributions to the Movement. In that speech what I saw of Lynch is she is a rabid liberal, who deep down inside does NOT like America and is racist to her core. She gave me the impression that in her heart of hearts she most likely considers white males who own semi auto rifles to be more of an enemy to America than radical Islam. NOW THAT IS WHY I AM VERY SKEPTICAL that she and/or Obama will EVER indict Hillary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Any updates on when this DOJ will indict her? If you are just shitting in the thread and have nothing substantial to add you are free to start your own thread on any subject you wish. Ok.....ok, I'll say something serious................ A couple of weeks ago I saw a taped speech of Lynch's where Holder was being given an award for his contributions to the Movement. In that speech what I saw of Lynch is she is a rabid liberal, who deep down inside does NOT like America and is racist to her core. She gave me the impression that in her heart of hearts she most likely considers white males who own semi auto rifles to be more of an enemy to America than radical Islam. NOW THAT IS WHY I AM VERY SKEPTICAL that she and/or Obama will EVER indict Hillary. black pres and 2 black attorney generals in a row, naw theres no movement . I get why people are skeptical, the clintons have got away with everything maybe people don't want to jinx a conviction by being optimistic, that or the fix is in. |
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Senior Clinton aide maintained top secret clearance amid email probe, letters show
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/29/senior-clinton-aide-maintained-top-secret-clearance-amid-email-probe-letters-show.html?intcmp=hpbt3 A senior Hillary Clinton aide has maintained her top secret security clearance despite sending information now deemed classified to the Clinton Foundation and to then-Secretary of State Clinton's private unsecured email account, according to congressional letters obtained by Fox News. Current and former intelligence officials say it is standard practice to suspend a clearance pending the outcome of an investigation. Yet in the case of Cheryl Mills, Clinton’s former chief of staff at the State Department, two letters indicate this practice is not being followed -- even as the Clinton email system remains the subject of an FBI investigation. |
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That's much better than this administration's previous use of 1. the tactical ignore or 2. insulting the people heading the investigation. Let's see, Dear Leader hates the Clintons, loves socialism (ala Bernie), and might want to legitimize Lynch as a "fair and balanced" AG (further putting the GOP under the gun for a nomination to the SC). I could see them actually moving on Clinton... Hell, they are even going through their nemesis channel! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lynch was just on FOX, did not answer one question, just a stonewall, only little heads roll. Hillary is walking
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They said six emails. Not much of a crime. View Quote I heard "fewer than 2 dozen" However, the quantity of emails isn't the crime. The content is key, and the administration wants to keep them under wraps. Edited to add: few emails between SoS and POTUS would suggest a rather dysfunctional administration, unless they typically communicated in other ways. But Clinton used lots of emails. |
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Attorney General Loretta Lynch will appear on Fox News Special Report with Brett Baier on Monday at 6:00 pm. Harris Faulkner of Fox News is reporting that Lynch will appear in an attempt to reassure the American people that the Justice Department is taking the investigation seriously. View Quote Ummmm yeah! We are living in a 1st world banana republic! I have no faith that justice will be served! |
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