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Posted: 12/24/2014 3:12:15 AM EDT
[#1]
That is one ugly ass gun. Cool to see the kits come in though.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 3:12:54 AM EDT
[#2]
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Century will probably start throwing together builds of questionable quality. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting/Interested. If PTR is smart they will do something about this. Century will probably start throwing together builds of questionable quality. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I was wondering how long before they start fucking them up. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 3:34:50 AM EDT
[#3]
Damn it.
Take my money.. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 3:37:41 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh I guess NDS is building ar180 lowers and are going to offer upper receiver kits (you build). Ill be taking one of those if i want an outdated 5.56 rifle.  |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 3:55:08 AM EDT
[#5]
If they make a receiver available that collapsible stock version would be a great trunk gun...
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Posted: 12/24/2014 4:07:16 AM EDT
[#6]
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Tag for ordering info |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 4:25:12 AM EDT
[#7]
What's the track record of these rifles?
I've heard of them but have never heard about reliability, accuracy, etc. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 5:01:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryI like that LC 
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Posted: 12/24/2014 5:19:32 AM EDT
[#9]
Damn!!
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Posted: 12/24/2014 5:20:44 AM EDT
[#10]
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LOL the AR-180 isn't outdated, it has damn near all of the features everyone wants.
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Meh I guess NDS is building ar180 lowers and are going to offer upper receiver kits (you build). Ill be taking one of those if i want an outdated 5.56 rifle.
Outdated.......................... 
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Posted: 12/24/2014 5:26:11 AM EDT
[#11]
I'll buy one, and pester PTR to make flats for them, who is in?
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Posted: 12/24/2014 5:34:42 AM EDT
[#12]
I'll take one
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Posted: 12/24/2014 5:37:20 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryNow that is cute. Do want. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 5:39:06 AM EDT
[#14]
I'll pass
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Posted: 12/24/2014 6:07:43 AM EDT
[#15]
Should be close to building a HK93/33/C93.
I'm gonna guess a barrel for the C93 will work, same goes for compliance parts, trigger pack and US mags are 3 parts too, so compliance parts should not be an issue. That leaves the receiver. Without having parts in hand, again I'm guessing a semi C93 receiver could be used with the Cetme L parts grafted to it, sights, tube, mag well. I'll get one, but I'll farm it out. This will go good in my collection with my Cetme C, HK91 and C93. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 6:22:37 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Will a HK sear fit in one of these? Nope. eta; No parts of the CETME L and HK 33 are interchangeable. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 6:26:30 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should be close to building a HK93/33/C93. I'm gonna guess a barrel for the C93 will work, same goes for compliance parts, trigger pack and US mags are 3 parts too, so compliance parts should not be an issue. That leaves the receiver. Without having parts in hand, again I'm guessing a semi C93 receiver could be used with the Cetme L parts grafted to it, sights, tube, mag well. I'll get one, but I'll farm it out. This will go good in my collection with my Cetme C, HK91 and C93. No parts of the CETME L and HK 33 are interchangeable. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 7:27:03 AM EDT
[#18]
It's interesting but I'll need more info on receivers, US parts availability, cost and builder before I get excited.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 7:33:11 AM EDT
[#19]
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Would be interested in one of these kits, but need to see about receivers & barrels. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 7:56:06 AM EDT
[#20]
I have a massive erection right now.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 8:07:12 AM EDT
[#21]
Historically, this is the next best thing to a STG44.
This was VonGrimlers design - the Engineer who worked for DWF/Mauser on the STG44. After the war, he ended up in Spain & designed the CETME rifle - the Germans bought the design & designated it the G3. Alas, 7.62 should never have been - this is the Intermediate cartridge Design, as originally intended. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 9:12:17 AM EDT
[#22]
tag
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Posted: 12/24/2014 9:22:37 AM EDT
[#23]
Sorta want...
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Posted: 12/24/2014 9:29:52 AM EDT
[#24]
pass
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Posted: 12/24/2014 9:32:11 AM EDT
[#25]
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I would be interested in one of those. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I would be interested in one of those. I would too, especially if the price is attractive. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 9:39:53 AM EDT
[#26]
Thats pretty awesome, i dig the collapsable stock model, but looks like one of those things id be jn way over my head with.
Gonna watch for more info though. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 9:59:41 AM EDT
[#27]
Pass. I'm not even slightly interested.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 10:30:00 AM EDT
[#28]
Want.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 10:35:44 AM EDT
[#29]
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Want. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 10:39:13 AM EDT
[#30]
Interesting. Depending on price, I may have to have one.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 10:39:14 AM EDT
[#31]
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Yup and takes M16 mags!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/CETMEL.despiecebasico.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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5.56 mm?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/CETMEL.despiecebasico.png That kit looks super-easy to put together!
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Posted: 12/24/2014 10:41:55 AM EDT
[#32]
sounds like a giant pain..it looks cool i guess but might as well get the 308 version
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:04:54 AM EDT
[#33]
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sounds like a giant pain..it looks cool i guess but might as well get the 308 version I have a 7.62 CETME and would infinitely prefer something like this, especially taking AR mags. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:08:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:21:18 AM EDT
[#35]
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It's interesting but I'll need more info on receivers, US parts availability, cost and builder before I get excited. Once compliance parts and receivers are available the price of kits will go up. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:29:43 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryI peed a little. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:33:51 AM EDT
[#37]
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I would be interested in one of those. Yep, it would be the first 5.56 I've bought in years if it's brought out as a completed rifle......Take My Money! |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:40:34 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote Historywould really want if someone tells me their are aftermarket rails for that where I can mount optics/lights etc... |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:44:38 AM EDT
[#39]
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Once compliance parts and receivers are available the price of kits will go up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's interesting but I'll need more info on receivers, US parts availability, cost and builder before I get excited. Once compliance parts and receivers are available the price of kits will go up. Without receivers, barrels and compliance parts, it is just a junk pile. Speculate and buy the junk pile or wait and pay more for something you know will be useful? |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:47:43 AM EDT
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Where'd you hear about the 180 upper kit? I'd like to learn more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh I guess NDS is building ar180 lowers and are going to offer upper receiver kits (you build). Ill be taking one of those if i want an outdated 5.56 rifle. Where'd you hear about the 180 upper kit? I'd like to learn more. There is a thread in the AR variant subforum. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:49:34 AM EDT
[#41]
Cool
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:51:02 AM EDT
[#42]
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I would be interested in one of those. Bingo |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:55:51 AM EDT
[#43]
Way too much involved with trying to build something like that. If they got a hundred thousand or so kits then it would be worth it to tool up a receiver flat. Looks cool, but not realistic.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:59:08 AM EDT
[#44]
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Meh I guess NDS is building ar180 lowers and are going to offer upper receiver kits (you build). Ill be taking one of those if i want an outdated 5.56 rifle.
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Its a 50 year old design that has seen very little development since its introduction and has almost no aftermarket for parts and accessories. Its a good rifle and im looking forward to the NDS upper kits. I hear they are building them with ar barrel extensions, ar handguard compatible, and a flat top picatinny rail upper receiver. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 12:02:31 PM EDT
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The thing is, Kit guns are usually built as cheap as possible. Button rifled, shitty steel, unlined barrels that wont handle heat like the original barrels, Shitty made recievers that arent made to spec in either material or measurement. shitty rifles.
I'd take one if it has a to-spec hammer forged Barrel with plenty of vandium and a thick chrome lining with a stiff to-spec reciever. but otherwise I give not 1 fucks. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 12:09:48 PM EDT
[#46]
I'll buy a few kits, somebody will make a receiver and barrels if enough kits come in the country! I held off on too many kits because no receivers were available, only to have receivers available long after the kits sold out
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Posted: 12/29/2014 5:36:32 PM EDT
[#47]
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Its a 50 year old design that has seen very little development since its introduction and has almost no aftermarket for parts and accessories. Its a good rifle and im looking forward to the NDS upper kits. I hear they are building them with ar barrel extensions, ar handguard compatible, and a flat top picatinny rail upper receiver. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh I guess NDS is building ar180 lowers and are going to offer upper receiver kits (you build). Ill be taking one of those if i want an outdated 5.56 rifle.
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Its a 50 year old design that has seen very little development since its introduction and has almost no aftermarket for parts and accessories. Its a good rifle and im looking forward to the NDS upper kits. I hear they are building them with ar barrel extensions, ar handguard compatible, and a flat top picatinny rail upper receiver. NO, no, no. I didn't say that. 
My goal is use off the shelf AR15 carbine barrels. But the height of the piston above the bore will preclude the use of AR handguards. We will have to make something to fit it. |
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Posted: 12/29/2014 7:17:41 PM EDT
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We've been discussing this build on another forum and so far here is what I gather...
The C93/HK barrels will most likely interchange (1 US 922r part). It's possible the barrel or trunion may need some slight adaptation, or then again it may be a direct replacement, we just won't know till the parts are in hand. Next we need someone to stamp some receivers which will allow the Cetme L mag well to be grafted on. (1 US 922r part). Then comes the fact that these use AR mags, (body, follower, floorplate) (3 easy US 922r parts). The biggest reliability problems stemmed for the SB made mags they were issued. A modern US AR mag with a magpul follower would be a great upgrade to the surplus mag these were issued with. The flash hider can be replaced with a US made FH (1 US 922r part). So we are at 6 US parts at this point. The cocking handle is something commonly replaced on HK clones with a US made item, that alone would bring us to 7 US parts. The hammer or trigger could be easily replicated with a US part which would put us way over if we decide to keep the surplus cocking handle. For builders with some welding skills that understand HK bolt gap these should be a straight forward build for anyone who has done an HK or Cetme in the past. The whole thing hinges IMO on the receiver and hopefully Apex can help source those as a 80% part. These Cetme L's are looking very doable IMO. |
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Posted: 12/29/2014 7:32:39 PM EDT
[#49]
Legal in Maryland.
I want one just for the hell of it. |
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Posted: 12/29/2014 7:37:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Im in for one.
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