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Posted: 2/24/2020 8:50:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am anxiously awaiting the return of my K from Dead Air. I had to send it in after discovering a pretty severe alignment issue. Fucker was throwing my shots high and left about 4” at something like 10 yards. In the meantime, I ordered a jig to dimple my FN CHF 8.5” 300 barrel that came with my PSA upper so I can install a Geissele gas block and a DDC MK4 I just snagged on the EE for a good price. I have a Surefire scout mini that will reside on it. My plan is to have it in a Hornady wall safe in my closet. My 2 year old sleeps with my every night so it’s realistically the only way to store it nearby. It’s built on a PSA Approval-15 lower with an SBA3 brace. 
If it ever gets used, the media might have a field day over the rollmark what with its implication of the shameless disregard this individual has demonstrated toward the NFA process for possessing a short barrel rifle by making use of a loophole in the language! 
I’ll be excited when it is up and running. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 8:53:20 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips. Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 8:54:14 AM EDT
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AR 9, SBR, Suppressed, 32 rounds of Federal HST goodness, Light and red dot on a Display Tactical stand by my bed for easy access.
Why? Because I’m not missing 32 times.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 8:55:59 AM EDT
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12 gauge with custom hand loads that consist of #4 shot and dragons breath shot material this way when I shoot intruders not only does it neutralize them it cauterizes the wound making cleanup minimal. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 8:56:48 AM EDT
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10.3 DD MK18 upper with some improvements. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 8:59:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips. Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:01:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips. Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:02:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who convinced you of this nonsense? |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:03:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:04:09 AM EDT
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KSG shotgun and 25 mini-shells.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:06:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
KSG shotgun and 25 mini-shells. 
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:07:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:08:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
KSG shotgun and 25 mini-shells. 
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:14:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips. Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you want your hd gun to be a mini14?  Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. 
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:19:43 AM EDT
[#15]
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"traditional stocks are better for cqb". Said by noone that has actually done cqb. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:21:05 AM EDT
[#16]
My honest answer is :
AR Shotgun Pistol The pistol is mainly for answering the door at night. Answering the door with a rifle or shotgun in hand sees like a good way to get shot by an anxious police officer. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:23:55 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips. Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:27:33 AM EDT
[#18]
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My honest answer is : AR Shotgun Pistol The pistol is mainly for answering the door at night. Answering the door with a rifle or shotgun in hand sees like a good way to get shot by an anxious police officer. Getting shot through a window while standing in your home has been an issue in the last year, discussed here on arfcom and had some arfcops defending it as a legitimate use of force. So, YMMV. I’m bringing firepower. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:36:34 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You never go full retard. Except just then. and probably other times ETA: aaaaand you did it again.
https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-1-the-original-box-o-truth/ I'm not known to be real smart. HD gun is loaded with Hornady TAP 55gr, not FMJ. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:39:29 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
"traditional stocks are better for cqb". Said by noone that has actually done cqb. At least that's been my experience working with amateurs and being one myself. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:39:30 AM EDT
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If a jury is your primary concern for a HD gun, you should be looking at pump shotguns. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:41:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For non-tier-1 amateurs, they are easier to support one-handed and retain if grabbed. At least that's been my experience working with amateurs and being one myself.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:42:37 AM EDT
[#23]
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We've seen that you don't even have to answer the door or actually have a firearm to be shot by an anxious police officer. Getting shot through a window while standing in your home has been an issue in the last year, discussed here on arfcom and had some arfcops defending it as a legitimate use of force. So, YMMV. I'm bringing firepower. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My honest answer is : AR Shotgun Pistol The pistol is mainly for answering the door at night. Answering the door with a rifle or shotgun in hand sees like a good way to get shot by an anxious police officer. Getting shot through a window while standing in your home has been an issue in the last year, discussed here on arfcom and had some arfcops defending it as a legitimate use of force. So, YMMV. I'm bringing firepower. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:45:14 AM EDT
[#24]
pop smoke and exit out the back
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:46:18 AM EDT
[#25]
Choice: 5.56 SBR AR, Suppressor, MRO, Sling, MAWL, WP DTNVGs
Reality: 5.56 SBR AR, Suppressor, MRO, Sling, Modlite |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:46:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 9:48:15 AM EDT
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Two shotgun blasts off the porch covers ALL scenarios.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:05:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For non-tier-1 amateurs, they are easier to support one-handed and retain if grabbed. At least that's been my experience working with amateurs and being one myself. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:06:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have anything solid to back up this claim? I’m going with...false. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:08:00 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What color is the sun in your universe?
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:10:32 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So you want your hd gun to be a mini14? 
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:12:22 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So you want your hd gun to be a mini14? |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:14:24 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips. Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:15:34 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just my experience as an amateur and working with other amateurs. Conventional stock was easier to support gun one-handed and retain if grabbed. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:16:29 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips. Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you want your hd gun to be a mini14? Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:23:17 AM EDT
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Sir, with all due respect, I would remove all firearms from your posession.
It would be best to call 911, then hide behind the door with a baseball bat while waiting for police. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:27:57 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Two shotgun blasts off the porch covers ALL scenarios. Even if you don’t happen to have a porch... Run around the neighborhood and find a porch to shoot off of. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:29:25 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips. Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you want your hd gun to be a mini14? Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:30:27 AM EDT
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Choice and reality: Ratmil Draco 7.62x39mm 'pistol' with 75-rd drum. No stock, brace, or sling. Shoot from the hip and 'walk' the rounds towards the intruder.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:32:50 AM EDT
[#40]
Ok, so the majority opinion is that I'm tarded.
Educate me in the wise ways. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:35:36 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Choice and reality: Ratmil Draco 7.62x39mm 'pistol' with 75-rd drum. No stock, brace, or sling. Shoot from the hip and 'walk' the rounds towards the intruder. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:37:02 AM EDT
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Not defending the shootings, but every one I know of the person was armed. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:37:47 AM EDT
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Seems to me that pistols in pistol calibers, even braced ones, reign supreme for most people. Easy to open doors, and similar. Wont make you deaf.
For folks in the country with property and animal issues, the rifle and shotgun are the hand on favorites. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:37:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:38:53 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ok, so the majority opinion is that I'm tarded. Educate me in the wise ways. Stupid is forever. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:39:50 AM EDT
[#46]
Reality for me is I have little kids and probably need a hand/arm free to help carry and usher them to safety. Although a rifle makes a lot of sense, I think honestly a pistol w/light serves my purposes better.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:44:47 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just my experience as an amateur and working with other amateurs. Conventional stock was easier to support gun one-handed and retain if grabbed.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:46:07 AM EDT
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Going to see about a bump in the night...Glock 19 with an X300U
Surefire 6p with a lanyard and Malkoff upgrade next to it. Door kicked in and full on home invasion? Colt 6921 with an Aimpoint T-1 and another Malkoff upgraded 6P. Loaded up with 75 grain TAP |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:46:58 AM EDT
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The reality is I've investigated a whole lot of defensive shootings, many inside homes or apartments. None were with an AR that were not police action shootings. Only one of those was with an AR, or any centerfire rifle. The vast majority were with a shotgun or pistol. 2 were with .22 rifles, both Marlin model 60s. ALL resulted in the attacker being shot or driven off. Only one involved more than 3 rounds being fired. That one was one of the .22lr marlins. The attacker was actually DRT by shot #3, however just to be sure, she emptied the tube into him.
My take is that everyone's circumstance is different and people use whatever they have and they are comfortable with. I know we are AR enthusiasts here and many justify their expenditure on equipment and express their political opinions based upon the self defense scenario. That desire however does not coincide with reality. The mongol hoard is not bursting into your dining room, and if it is, you got bigger issues. Use whatever you want and can shoot well. Bear in mind that what I might choose for patrol, which can and has resulted in standoff engagements at greater than 50 yards, is not the same reality in typical home defense distances. I'm sure we have someone here who owns 50yrds of indoor living room space in their palace, but that is not the case for the vast majority. Most will be engaging at less than 40 or 50 feet in any straight interior line and most of those at less than that. In addition, rifles that are not suppressed are extremely loud indoors, loud enough to be disorienting to the operator of said rifle. Pistols or shotguns, less so. You pays your money, you takes your chances. If you happen to live in a third world war zone, YMMV. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:48:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your icon shows instructor, I just hope it’s bullseye pistol or skeet
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