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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:02:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably not, I don't need to know any classified shit specifically. Do we have one, though, of some sort? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't think you will get current information on this subject even from SMEs  Probably not, I don't need to know any classified shit specifically. Do we have one, though, of some sort? Do we have one? Absolutely. Orange juice cans and string, due to budget cuts. 
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:05:59 PM EDT
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Imagine for a moment the sub wasn't the thing receiving the message
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:07:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was there. Maybe they obfuscated in my radio prop courses for National Security reasons, but that seems like it would have some cascade effect on math for other shit. 60' is about right. I saw that, hence the Q. You can SEE a sub on the ol' Mk1 EB, if it's only sixty feet down, from the air in like 2/3 of the ocean if the waves are reasonable, and nearly everywhere at 30'. You can see WHALES at that depth, ffs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Google is a motherfuqqer Open source, found in seconds. You’re right though, only 60 ft down. If you believe the open source article. I was there. Maybe they obfuscated in my radio prop courses for National Security reasons, but that seems like it would have some cascade effect on math for other shit. 60' is about right. I saw that, hence the Q. You can SEE a sub on the ol' Mk1 EB, if it's only sixty feet down, from the air in like 2/3 of the ocean if the waves are reasonable, and nearly everywhere at 30'. You can see WHALES at that depth, ffs. RIF “If the submarine is too deep to receive the signal, the VLF antenna can be floated to a shallower depth via a buoy while the submarine remains underway at greater depth.” |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:08:53 PM EDT
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Bellyflop, at least a 250lb'er
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:10:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RIF "If the submarine is too deep to receive the signal, the VLF antenna can be floated to a shallower depth via a buoy while the submarine remains underway at greater depth." Ocean is big and vast. As are the patrol areas. Waaaay offshore. You'd have to be right on top and looking at the right instant to catch a shallow boat. And we were seldom there anyhow. Only valid tool in town is a kickass radar and those have pitiful coverage in comparison to the areas assigned to the boats (call it 6 to 8x Colorado). And even then you have to leave something sticking up, which is rare. Quiet as fuck and slowly lurking about down safe out in the middle of nowhere. I personally discovered a mountain one time. Never been driven over before. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:16:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine for a moment the sub wasn't the thing receiving the message Well, as I understand it, the ELF didn't transmit messages. They sent a single random character 24/7 at whatever rate the bandwidth allows, ~a couple seconds per character or so. The subs listened for a specific three character string that changed on a schedule, and if they heard it, they came to a depth to receive updates and orders. It was broadcast continuously, because obviously a sudden change in traffic volume would be noticed. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:18:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RIF “If the submarine is too deep to receive the signal, the VLF antenna can be floated to a shallower depth via a buoy while the submarine remains underway at greater depth.” Yeah, but, but how do they know they ought to do that, if they don't do it as a matter of course? |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, but, but how do they know they ought to do that, if they don't do it as a matter of course? The assigned alert boats have to maintain broadcast coverage. Other boats at sea will get the word at most a little later. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:22:46 PM EDT
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Float the wire ....
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, I thought it was those Navy 707's painted white that fly over my house all the time. I work with a guy who used to be aircrew for those things, back when (he says) they used C-130's. The jets you see are part of the C2. The E4B aircraft serve the purpose that once belonged at Cheyenne Mountain, being in one fixed location isn't smart so Rebound Echo became a thing. The 707 aircraft was the primary NECAP while the 747 is the NAOC. Having one C2 nodes isn't wise so we have both airframes in operation. The 707 airframe is primarily a navy com asset while the 747 is for everyone with members from the navy and af on board. To clarify NECAP is no longer used. Only NAOC. I am not sure what the 707 airframe mission that supports the navy is called. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:30:24 PM EDT
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 8776 KHZ USB U.S. Navy Tacamo aircraft with EAM at 22:45 Z Sounds like hf |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:31:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Whales
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:35:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I think our VLF sites are effective enough to eliminate the ELF ones. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:35:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know why you don't hear anything about telepathy anymore? Because it's reached the stage of being deployable for mission-critical applications. Shhhhh. I washed out of the program, but you're not supposed to know. You're welcome. I knew that. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:42:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The assigned alert boats have to maintain broadcast coverage. Other boats at sea will get the word at most a little later. Unsatisfyingly plausible. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:44:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't transmit a signal at a low enough frequency to reach a submerged sub. You need miles of dipole antennae. 4 Hz. Four. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: E6B/Looking Glass You can't transmit a signal at a low enough frequency to reach a submerged sub. You need miles of dipole antennae. 4 Hz. Four. I think they might be able now if the transmitter antenna is also submerged..? One ping only ! Along the lines of what they discovered with ultra low frequencies below the thermocline traveling thousands of miles. That Russian Sub tracking stuff in reverse. Satellite bouy deployment while submerged. Pre placed under water transmitter stations. Ships at sea. Aircraft drops a bouy. Message says ?? = get back to us..? |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:48:30 PM EDT
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The first wave boats will already be at periscope depth when it happens.
As for the others, ICBM capable of dropping a coms buoy on the pos of the second-wave boats is less than 10 minutes. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:51:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is classified son. I’m going to go with this. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:52:13 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't have a need to know. No freaking joke. Who are these people? "How does your radar work?" "What frequency is command and control?" |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 10:54:59 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they might be able now if the transmitter antenna is also submerged..? One ping only ! Along the lines of what they discovered with ultra low frequencies below the thermocline traveling thousands of miles. That Russian Sub tracking stuff in reverse. Satellite bouy deployment while submerged. Pre placed under water transmitter stations. Ships at sea. Aircraft drops a bouy. Message says ?? = get back to us..? I always figured we had enough of these bouy stations to do this. Just needs to send the right signal from the bouy. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 11:06:10 PM EDT
[#21]
One ping only.
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Posted: 10/2/2020 11:25:21 PM EDT
[#22]
Motorola beeper.
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Posted: 10/3/2020 12:28:04 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The jets you see are part of the C2. The E4B aircraft serve the purpose that once belonged at Cheyenne Mountain, being in one fixed location isn't smart so Rebound Echo became a thing. The 707 aircraft was the primary NECAP while the 747 is the NAOC. Having one C2 nodes isn't wise so we have both airframes in operation. The 707 airframe is primarily a navy com asset while the 747 is for everyone with members from the navy and af on board. To clarify NECAP is no longer used. Only NAOC. I am not sure what the 707 airframe mission that supports the navy is called. So, redundant parts of Looking Glass. |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 12:32:01 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: elf and magnets Elven magnets |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 12:37:34 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet this thread has many eyes on it from many places just hoping for a slip, personally I think we have awesome tech that our enemy's should fear ever being used Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Probably not, I don't need to know any classified shit specifically. Do we have one, though, of some sort? I bet this thread has many eyes on it from many places just hoping for a slip, personally I think we have awesome tech that our enemy's should fear ever being used I highly doubt it... unless you believe that every seaman submariner is James Bond with classified intelligence. |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 12:51:33 AM EDT
[#26]
I know...
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Posted: 10/3/2020 12:54:16 AM EDT
[#27]
If you are in the left hemisphere of the Earth, you contact the Greys and they handle it. Right hemisphere belongs to the Reptiloids.
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Posted: 10/3/2020 12:56:40 AM EDT
[#28]
VLF.
There are Naval Radio Stations, like Jim Creek in Western Washington that transmit globally through the Earth's crust. That message says send up your buoy. The buoy gets a satellite burst transmission, or burst transmission from the E-6 TACAMO aircraft and it's on! |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 12:59:34 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't transmit a signal at a low enough frequency to reach a submerged sub. You need miles of dipole antennae. 4 Hz. Four. LOL Amateurs... |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 1:00:20 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ELF. There are Naval Radio Stations, like Jim Creek in Western Washington that transmit globally through the Earth's crust. That message says send up your buoy. The buiy gets a satellite burst transmission, or burst transmission from the E-6 TACAMO aircraft and it's on! I've been there many times. Interesting place. |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 1:05:43 AM EDT
[#31]
Tic tac couriers
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Posted: 10/3/2020 1:07:36 AM EDT
[#32]
they get a tweet on twitter
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Posted: 10/3/2020 1:17:22 AM EDT
[#33]
They have some little fucker from India call about their vehicle warranty.
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Posted: 10/3/2020 1:18:45 AM EDT
[#34]
Text/Facetime
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Posted: 10/3/2020 1:21:59 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No 747. I deal with it as part of my job. E4B the one that passes the words to the E6 and our nuclear forces. If the E4B goes tits up the E6B assumes that roll when the battle staff is on board. |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 1:24:51 AM EDT
[#36]
A lot of bullshit being tossed about.
I was once a Flight Engineer on the E-6B. Ask questions, if I can answer them I will. 
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Posted: 10/3/2020 1:26:46 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Google is a motherfuqqer Open source, found in seconds. You’re right though, only 60 ft down. If you believe the open source article. I've been on one of those at an airshow. I didn't know we scrapped the ELF stations. |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 2:17:44 AM EDT
[#38]
CARRIER...
Pidgeon ... 
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Posted: 10/3/2020 2:34:09 AM EDT
[#39]
Witchcraft happens then poof, an EAM appears in the skipper's hands.
There may be a dolphin sacrifice required beforehand. Or is it a commie virgin? I don't remember.
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Posted: 10/3/2020 2:36:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/3/2020 3:14:03 AM EDT
[#41]
Already mentioned. I think the answer is Jim Creek. The antennas span a mountain valley. Cool place.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Creek_Naval_Radio_Station |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 3:39:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/3/2020 3:48:05 AM EDT
[#43]
By iPhone you silly Chinese and Ruski agents!
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Posted: 10/3/2020 4:02:59 AM EDT
[#44]
KISS
Beavers ffs  Beaver tail slap And wtf with real science on the first page? Rookies.... 
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Posted: 10/3/2020 4:16:14 AM EDT
[#45]
I see a lot of John Walker wannabies checking in.
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Posted: 10/3/2020 4:46:29 AM EDT
[#46]
I should read more about this. Off to investigate.
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Posted: 10/3/2020 7:57:20 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:  The Shop!Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You know why you don't hear anything about telepathy anymore? Because it's reached the stage of being deployable for mission-critical applications. Shhhhh. I washed out of the program, but you're not supposed to know. You're welcome. The Shop! Attached File |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 8:07:00 AM EDT
[#48]
I give her the hand signal to assume Nadu so she knows it is time to truly listen.
Doesn’t everyone? |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 8:11:21 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Google is a motherfuqqer Open source, found in seconds. You’re right though, only 60 ft down. If you believe the open source article. There have been reports of one of these planes flying over both the Atlantic coast and Pacific Coast since Trump went to Walter Reed. Hell, I even saw an article about it in todays La Prensa (Honduran newspaper). Yep, here it is right here: https://www.laprensa.hn/mundo/1412606-410/aviones-militares-sobrevuelan-eeuu-tras-contagio-de-trump-de-coronavirus |
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Posted: 10/3/2020 8:17:22 AM EDT
[#50]
We broadcast Marvin Gaye on all HF frequencies.
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