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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:08:08 AM EDT
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A dickfers age.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:09:09 AM EDT
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87,000 Years
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:09:45 AM EDT
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87 years
ETA dang beat |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:10:53 AM EDT
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Not in our lifetime......
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:11:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:12:22 AM EDT
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depends what area. they are building a large building to cover it 300m away. the closer you get the more certain ray will pass through your body.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:13:05 AM EDT
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My guess is 2000ish years
Don't quote me on that |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:13:59 AM EDT
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i really don't give two flying fucks
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:14:11 AM EDT
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depends what area. they are building a large building to cover it 300m away. the closer you get the more certain ray will pass through your body. Now, if the question is about what's left of the reactor, about 100,000 years or more, depending on what's in there. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:14:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:14:55 AM EDT
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50,000 people used to live there...now it's a ghost town.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:15:49 AM EDT
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depends what area. they are building a large building to cover it 300m away. the closer you get the more certain ray will pass through your body. .jpg)
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:16:29 AM EDT
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20,000 years. They're going to need to build a lot of containment buildings.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:16:37 AM EDT
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Inside the containment is bad, but right outside is fine:
 Attached FileEven safer now:  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:17:39 AM EDT
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well the half life of plutonium 239 is 760,333,008,896 seconds
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:17:44 AM EDT
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Depends.
Some areas are already livable, some will take 20 or so years, others will take 100+ years to be livable. Others still might take thousands, with the area within the cement covering needing about 20,000 years to be livable. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:19:15 AM EDT
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20,000 years. They're going to need to build a lot of containment buildings. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:20:14 AM EDT
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You are supposed to be answering the questions.... not asking them Mr. Reno.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:21:56 AM EDT
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You are supposed to be answering the questions.... not asking them Mr. Reno. If you save up the question, I'll answer it in the next IWATQ. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:22:22 AM EDT
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Uhhh, are you talking inside the melted core or outside?
After the meltdown the rest of the reactors still ran, crewed by real people. People are in the exclusion zone now... |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:22:28 AM EDT
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Depends. Some areas are already livable, some will take 20 or so years, others will take 100+ years to be livable. Others still might take thousands, with the area within the cement covering needing about 20,000 years to be livable. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:23:11 AM EDT
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Uhhh, are you talking inside the melted core or outside? After the meltdown the rest of the reactors still ran, crewed by real people. People are in the exclusion zone now... |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:24:38 AM EDT
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Right there - standing right in front of the elephant's foot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uhhh, are you talking inside the melted core or outside? After the meltdown the rest of the reactors still ran, crewed by real people. People are in the exclusion zone now... |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:26:37 AM EDT
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I seem to recall that was only one of several reactors on site and the others have never stopped generating so there are people there all the time.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:27:13 AM EDT
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Right there - standing right in front of the elephant's foot. edit:eh google says 20k years, they were planning for 250k years of deadly radiation at Yuma. I'm not a nuke, had family in nuke generation though, so I'll stay in my lane 
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:27:42 AM EDT
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20,000 years.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:28:07 AM EDT
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I was at a concrete convention and there was a speaker who was in Russia to see the sarcophagus being built. He had some great stories and history.
The Russians claim only 29 or so people have died as a result of the melt down. 
The sarcophagus was the largest thing moved by hydraulics. It also has large blast walls in case of a missile attack. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:28:46 AM EDT
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Just in time for the sun to supernova.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:30:03 AM EDT
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You can now stand next to the elephants foot for a minute or so without lasting effect Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uhhh, are you talking inside the melted core or outside? After the meltdown the rest of the reactors still ran, crewed by real people. People are in the exclusion zone now... |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:30:47 AM EDT
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I seem to recall that was only one of several reactors on site and the others have never stopped generating so there are people there all the time. There are 3 radiation checks on the way out of the zone. You have to be clear before you can leave. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:31:58 AM EDT
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I seem to recall that was only one of several reactors on site and the others have never stopped generating so there are people there all the time. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:32:08 AM EDT
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I was at a concrete convention and there was a speaker who was in Russia to see the sarcophagus being built. He had some great stories and history. The Russians claim only 29 or so people have died as a result of the melt down.
The sarcophagus was the largest thing moved by hydraulics. It also has large blast walls in case of a missile attack. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:33:26 AM EDT
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I was at a concrete convention and there was a speaker who was in Russia to see the sarcophagus being built. He had some great stories and history. The Russians claim only 29 or so people have died as a result of the melt down.
The sarcophagus was the largest thing moved by hydraulics. It also has large blast walls in case of a missile attack. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:33:32 AM EDT
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Okay. You first. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uhhh, are you talking inside the melted core or outside? After the meltdown the rest of the reactors still ran, crewed by real people. People are in the exclusion zone now... I would do it in the proper protective equipment. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:33:56 AM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:36:35 AM EDT
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looks safe to me
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:37:54 AM EDT
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So far, I have not been allowed inside of the building. Maybe this year. I would do it in the proper protective equipment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uhhh, are you talking inside the melted core or outside? After the meltdown the rest of the reactors still ran, crewed by real people. People are in the exclusion zone now... I would do it in the proper protective equipment. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:38:00 AM EDT
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Pretty good show on PBS about the new containment dome during its construction.
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:38:42 AM EDT
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amazing how dangerous that blob is Quote HistoryQuoted:
amazing how dangerous that blob is It actually kind of respirates the way it absorbs and releases moisture. The density and structural quality actually changes. It has become more porous since it actually formed, and has in some ways become more dangerous, but not necessarily in the sense of its radioactive quality. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:40:48 AM EDT
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See if you can't chip off a piece so that I can put it on my keychain. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uhhh, are you talking inside the melted core or outside? After the meltdown the rest of the reactors still ran, crewed by real people. People are in the exclusion zone now... I would do it in the proper protective equipment. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:42:29 AM EDT
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What is most interesting is what it has been doing over time. It actually kind of respirates the way it absorbs and releases moisture. The density and structural quality actually changes. It has become more porous since it actually formed, and has in some ways become more dangerous, but not necessarily in the sense of its radioactive quality. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:42:47 AM EDT
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There were three other reactors, but the last one was shut down in 2000. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I seem to recall that was only one of several reactors on site and the others have never stopped generating so there are people there all the time. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:43:23 AM EDT
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Radioactive dust? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is most interesting is what it has been doing over time. It actually kind of respirates the way it absorbs and releases moisture. The density and structural quality actually changes. It has become more porous since it actually formed, and has in some ways become more dangerous, but not necessarily in the sense of its radioactive quality. It produces dust from the process. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:44:47 AM EDT
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Maybe we should send a bunch of liberals over to find out?
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:45:56 AM EDT
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50,000 people used to live there...now it's a ghost town. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:46:52 AM EDT
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Exactly. It produces dust from the process. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is most interesting is what it has been doing over time. It actually kind of respirates the way it absorbs and releases moisture. The density and structural quality actually changes. It has become more porous since it actually formed, and has in some ways become more dangerous, but not necessarily in the sense of its radioactive quality. It produces dust from the process. 
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:47:21 AM EDT
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Define safe, and define Chernobyl.
Are you speaking about the reactor building, Pripyat, or the whole area? Do you mean safe for long term exposure, or normal background levels? As far as Pripyat is concerned, it's safe now, for the most part. It still has hot spots (mostly inside buildings), so bring a geiger counter and dosimeter, but for the most part the radiation levels are only about two times the normal background levels for Europe, or about the same as the levels you get on the fliht over, in other words, one day in Pripyat will give you the equivalent radiation dose to two days in London or Paris. Radiation is not really the obstacle to reinhabiting the area at this point (people still live there as well, not many, but some do) it's that is has been abandoned for so long, the buildings have deteriorated so much that they likely would all have to be torn down and the whole city is overgrown, it just wouldn't be worth it. If you ever feel the urge to explore it I hear they have tours, I suppose you could also sneak in on your own, but if your geiger counter starts going clickity clickity you'de best leave whatever area you just wandered into and try somewhere else. FYI from what I have seen most people rarely read more than one rad, even in the hottest areas, most are usually right around one milirad, it will take about 200-300 hours of exposire at 1 rad before it could possibly kill you or make you very sick, so even of you walked into a super hot spot as long as you didn't stick around you should be fine, the brief exposure won't be enough to hurt you, but please make note of your dosimeter readings at the end of each day so you can track your total exposure, that is important, especially if you work in certain fields. So again, define safe. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:47:53 AM EDT
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Nice... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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50,000 people used to live there...now it's a ghost town. Complete silence unless you are speaking.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:48:51 AM EDT
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50,000 people used to live there...now it's a ghost town. |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:51:40 AM EDT
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Hate that mission. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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