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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:06:16 AM EST
[#1]
Heroes. No more foreign wars or entanglements.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:07:39 AM EST
[#2]
Probably wise.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:08:04 AM EST
[#3]
The Founders warned us about foreign entanglements.... withdraw all US troops and equipment back to within our borders.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:08:17 AM EST
[#4]
Not gullible.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:09:14 AM EST
[#5]
Conscientious objection is a valid reason to not fight.
That said, unless you are in that category legitimately while serving in the military, refusing to fight in a declared war should be treated like it is- cowardice in face of the enemy. Notwithstanding the above, we need to keep our big noses OUT of foreign wars that do not directly affect American lives and the United States homeland, including US territories. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:09:37 AM EST
[#6]
I wooden
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:09:47 AM EST
[#7]
I don’t have a problem with it. Let the warhawks in government and media send their family.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:12:10 AM EST
[#8]
Pussyhats will volunteer - no need for a draft.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:12:37 AM EST
[#9]
Let the politicians kids be first ones leading the charge out of the trenches. No deferment cuz daddy is connected.
Let the Equity battle start with them. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:13:53 AM EST
[#10]
Unmanned drones strikes only. But MYOB is the best answer.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:14:10 AM EST
[#11]
As I have gotten older and seen just how corrupt the worlds politicians are and how much they benefit from war, my son will not be going to fight for them.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:14:49 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t have a problem with it. Let the warhawks in government and media send their family. That's the way I see it. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:15:47 AM EST
[#13]
intelligent and sane
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:16:30 AM EST
[#14]
I would not blame them.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:17:21 AM EST
[#15]
Keep our men and women home. If any of our troops get sent to Ukraine, they should absolutely not fight.
Im all for us pulling out of everywhere, Im tired of our money and people being used to protect other countries who refuse to protect or fight for themselves. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:18:27 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As I have gotten older and seen just how corrupt the worlds politicians are and how much they benefit from war, my son will not be going to fight for them. 
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:19:22 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not gullible. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:19:46 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Conscientious objection is a valid reason to not fight. That said, unless you are in that category legitimately while serving in the military, refusing to fight in a declared war should be treated like it is- cowardice in face of the enemy. Notwithstanding the above, we need to keep our big noses OUT of foreign wars that do not directly affect American lives and the United States homeland, including US territories. I'll go along with this. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:21:24 AM EST
[#19]
These threads went very differently 19-20 years ago.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:21:37 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As I have gotten older and seen just how corrupt the worlds politicians are and how much they benefit from war, my son will not be going to fight for them. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg What THEY ^ said. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:21:46 AM EST
[#21]
Young men shouldn't die for the pride and ambition of old men.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:22:03 AM EST
[#22]
If the draft age people I care about were being drafted to be sent to fight in Ukraine against an enemy that hadn’t attacked us?
I’d help them dodge it in anyway I could. Send the hawks, globalist shills, and boomers dreaming to finally fight the Soviets over. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:22:12 AM EST
[#23]
Since Congress hasn't exercised its sole power to declare war in 80 years, I view them as law abiding citizens.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:23:18 AM EST
[#24]
Depends on the individual. Some people may actually hurt the war effort.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:24:07 AM EST
[#25]
Well, after Afghanistan? I wouldn't blame them. Hell it doesn't even have to be the superior moral choice. Just common sense survival.
Would you want to die or be maimed in a war where the interests are not really the country's interest but rather the delusional fantasies and power trips of a few corrupt global homo sociopaths in Washington DC? No? You've chosen to preserve you and yours, congratulations. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:24:52 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These threads went very differently 19-20 years ago. It’s a little different when aggressors are crashing planes into your buildings. The GWOT had a legitimate start. Unfortunately, it derailed quickly. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:25:10 AM EST
[#27]
Bill Clinton and Mitt Romney are heros!
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:26:09 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a little different when aggressors are crashing planes into your buildings. The GWOT had a legitimate start. Unfortunately, it derailed quickly. Yeah, I was thinking more of Iraq 2003, rather than Afghanistan 2002. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:27:53 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Since Congress hasn't exercised its sole power to declare war in 80 years, I view them as law abiding citizens. "There's |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:28:14 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t have a problem with it. Let the warhawks in government and media send their family. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:29:13 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Heroes. No more foreign wars or entanglements. FPNI |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:29:35 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, after (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, etc) and Afghanistan? I wouldn't blame them. Hell it doesn't even have to be the superior moral choice. Just common sense survival. Would you want to die or be maimed in a war where the interests are not really the country's interest but rather the delusional fantasies and power trips of a few corrupt global homo sociopaths in Washington DC? No? You've chosen to preserve you and yours, congratulations. Modified. eta: In the last more than 100 years I would say that the only military involvement the US has been in that wasn't contrived bullshit fought for the benefit of the rich and powerful and based on lies was possibly WW2. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:29:59 AM EST
[#33]
I'd view them as smart. There's no scenario where going to another country to fight right now serves the interest of the average American.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:31:33 AM EST
[#34]
Please. All the armchair warriors in GD would be screeching Reeeee Draft Dodger! Followed by a strongly worded "In muh day, I woulda" speech.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:31:34 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As I have gotten older and seen just how corrupt the worlds politicians are and how much they benefit from war, my son will not be going to fight for them. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg I did my duty. Never again will I be a pawn so the political elites can get richer off of American lives. America has not won a war since WW2 because of politicians not wanting to win. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:31:35 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Modified. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, after (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, etc) and Afghanistan? I wouldn't blame them. Hell it doesn't even have to be the superior moral choice. Just common sense survival. Would you want to die or be maimed in a war where the interests are not really the country's interest but rather the delusional fantasies and power trips of a few corrupt global homo sociopaths in Washington DC? No? You've chosen to preserve you and yours, congratulations. Modified. Don't forget Hawaii, Cuba, and the Dominican Republic. Who wants to die so Dole can sell pineapples or Hearst can sell newspapers? |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:31:43 AM EST
[#37]
It's well within their rights not to. The current government can't demonstrate that it's acted in the best interest of our nation to any degree on foreign or domestic issues. It can't even show that it legitimately belongs in power.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:31:57 AM EST
[#38]
How about Vietnam?
That's not really a fair question of course, since we have 50ish years of perspective. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:33:38 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not gullible. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:34:35 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How about Vietnam? That's not really a fair question of course, since we have 50ish years of perspective. Vietnam was somewhat justified, at least in the interest of helping the French hold onto their colony. Once the French gave up we should have too. I'm also sympathetic to the desire to stop the spread of communism. But in todays world where ideology is largely irrelevant, state and business interest are so intertwined as to be indistinguishable, profits are privatized while losses are distributed to the tax payer, that's not a cause worth fighting for. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:35:09 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget Hawaii, Cuba, and the Dominican Republic. Who wants to die so Dole can sell pineapples or Hearst can sell newspapers? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, after (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, etc) and Afghanistan? I wouldn't blame them. Hell it doesn't even have to be the superior moral choice. Just common sense survival. Would you want to die or be maimed in a war where the interests are not really the country's interest but rather the delusional fantasies and power trips of a few corrupt global homo sociopaths in Washington DC? No? You've chosen to preserve you and yours, congratulations. Modified. Don't forget Hawaii, Cuba, and the Dominican Republic. Who wants to die so Dole can sell pineapples or Hearst can sell newspapers? I did put an etc. in there. 
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:36:44 AM EST
[#42]
Cowards and traitors.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:36:50 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t have a problem with it. Let the warhawks in government and media send their family. If only... |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:37:08 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Vietnam was somewhat justified, at least in the interest of helping the French hold onto their colony. Once the French gave up we should have too. I'm also sympathetic to the desire to stop the spread of communism. But in todays world where ideology is largely irrelevant, state and business interest are so intertwined as to be indistinguishable, profits are privatized while losses are distributed to the tax payer, that's not a cause worth fighting for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How about Vietnam? That's not really a fair question of course, since we have 50ish years of perspective. Vietnam was somewhat justified, at least in the interest of helping the French hold onto their colony. Once the French gave up we should have too. I'm also sympathetic to the desire to stop the spread of communism. But in todays world where ideology is largely irrelevant, state and business interest are so intertwined as to be indistinguishable, profits are privatized while losses are distributed to the tax payer, that's not a cause worth fighting for. The State Department was loaded with communists by that time. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:37:15 AM EST
[#45]
Smart. Just like us who weren’t suckered into the “war on terror” i.e. forever wars against poor savages for globalist interests.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:38:04 AM EST
[#46]
Ain't dying for pedos
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:38:10 AM EST
[#47]
Sane.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:39:25 AM EST
[#48]
If Sleepy Joe wants a war, slap a double barreled shot gun into his hands and send his doddering ass off to Ukraine.
After all, that's what he wants US to have for self defense. I did not serve, but I saw how VN vets were treated by the scumbags now running this country. No thanks. Let the Russians in both countries figure out their own issues. We don't need to be there. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:41:02 AM EST
[#49]
Quoted: Heroes. No more foreign wars or entanglements. Quoted: The Founders warned us about foreign entanglements.... withdraw all US troops and equipment back to within our borders. Quoted: Not gullible. George Washington was the founder and it was in his farewell address. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:43:06 AM EST
[#50]
Interesting how the elites are never on the front lines.
That tells me all I need to know. |
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