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Link Posted: 6/28/2018 2:10:26 PM EDT
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Supreme Court nominations are not always cakewalks, however, as cases such as Harriet Miers and Robert Bork (and Clarence Thomas) attest. There are several potential risks to Trump and Republicans:

Trump could nominate a relatively moderate justice, in an effort to keep Collins and Alaska's Lisa Murkowski on board and to put maximum pressure on red-state Democrats, but then face a backlash from conservatives.

Trump could nominate someone very conservative, but at the price of actually putting votes such as Collins's and Murkowski's at risk and of turning off swing voters.

Trump could nominate someone who had vetting issues, or someone who triggered a debate about qualifications, or someone who was seen as too much of a political crony. Historically, these sorts of justices have had trouble getting confirmed.
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Nate Silver is a stupid fucking retard and wrong about EVERYTHING.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 2:26:08 PM EDT
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I love CT.

No homo
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 2:36:35 PM EDT
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Nate Silver is a stupid fucking retard and wrong about EVERYTHING.
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Supreme Court nominations are not always cakewalks, however, as cases such as Harriet Miers and Robert Bork (and Clarence Thomas) attest. There are several potential risks to Trump and Republicans:

Trump could nominate a relatively moderate justice, in an effort to keep Collins and Alaska's Lisa Murkowski on board and to put maximum pressure on red-state Democrats, but then face a backlash from conservatives.

Trump could nominate someone very conservative, but at the price of actually putting votes such as Collins's and Murkowski's at risk and of turning off swing voters.

Trump could nominate someone who had vetting issues, or someone who triggered a debate about qualifications, or someone who was seen as too much of a political crony. Historically, these sorts of justices have had trouble getting confirmed.
Nate Silver is a stupid fucking retard and wrong about EVERYTHING.
Yup.  This is one area Mitch is going to fuck around on.

If you haven’t noticed, Mitch is pissed Harry Reid changed the rules in the senate.  So he fucked them two ways:
1) he used The Biden Rule to fuck the democrats of Garland
2) he used Reid’s new rule to fuck them on Gorsuch

Mitch is actually good for SCOTUS nominees.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 2:52:29 PM EDT
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Um, he's the most conservative member of the court, and he wants them to smack California, New York , etc. in the dick over their gun control BS, so...
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 3:18:08 PM EDT
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If only Roe V. Wade and 2nd Amendment supporters joined forces. Seems like it would be a fairly large group, maybe a huge majority.

But alas.
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Yep. Seems like the more liberal the courts, the more the country goes south.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 3:21:22 PM EDT
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MAGA!!
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Link Posted: 6/28/2018 3:22:40 PM EDT
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I'm not tired of winning
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Neither am I.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 3:48:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/28/2018 4:02:48 PM EDT
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I dream of a US with no NFA...
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While that would be fucking awesome it would probably be short lived. Too many people too stupid to secure them when theyre not around and add in a million ghetto grandmas doing straw purchases.

How about no pre 86 post 86 bullshit and streamline the process.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 4:09:35 PM EDT
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Do I have time to rub one out before a Hawaiian judge nukes it???



Link Posted: 6/28/2018 4:42:07 PM EDT
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Hmmmmm,
ironic timing?
Coincidence?
I think not.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:01:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:04:27 PM EDT
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NVM
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:04:34 PM EDT
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Y'think?

Sadly, many supporters of one will never recognize the validity of the other's opinion.
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You are going to have to convince me that killing unwanted children is not only moral, but constitutionally protected.

And.............................go.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:10:31 PM EDT
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Y'think?

Sadly, many supporters of one will never recognize the validity of the other's opinion.
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I think it happens this way.

2A might support early therapeutic abortions but not say broadly it's just between a woman and her doctor

Abortion activists might agree you should be able to own firearms, just not the actual military weapons mentioned in the 2nd.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:14:19 PM EDT
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I think it happens this way.

2A might support early therapeutic abortions but not say broadly it's just between a woman and her doctor

Abortion activists might agree you should be able to own firearms, just not the actual military weapons mentioned in the 2nd.
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No.

Because abortion "activists" are fucking progressive and want to kill a lot more than babies.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:15:48 PM EDT
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Robert's was just one of Bush's bad decisions .
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:32:57 PM EDT
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California Supreme Court response to this article

Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:35:50 PM EDT
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Their lips to gods ears.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:39:11 PM EDT
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Fuck that estrogen foundry.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:40:49 PM EDT
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If only Roe V. Wade and 2nd Amendment supporters joined forces. Seems like it would be a fairly large group, maybe a huge majority.

But alas.
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Yay social conservatives
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 6:00:21 PM EDT
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And.............................go.
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I'm pro life, but I'll give it a go.

Private property rights.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 6:20:04 PM EDT
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I'm pro life, but I'll give it a go.

Private property rights.
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You are going to have to convince me that killing unwanted children is not only moral, but constitutionally protected.

And.............................go.
I'm pro life, but I'll give it a go.

Private property rights.
Can we still own people?!
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 6:25:12 PM EDT
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Can we still own people?!
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You are going to have to convince me that killing unwanted children is not only moral, but constitutionally protected.

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I'm pro life, but I'll give it a go.

Private property rights.
Can we still own people?!
You own yourself.

If you don't own yourself, there's no real basis for private property rights.

This argument of course ignores morality.

But legally, Rothbard argued a fetus is akin to a parasite or a non paying tenant, and can be evicted at the owner's discretion.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 6:28:03 PM EDT
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While that would be fucking awesome it would probably be short lived. Too many people too stupid to secure them when theyre not around and add in a million ghetto grandmas doing straw purchases.

How about no pre 86 post 86 bullshit and streamline the process.
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WHAT?!

How is that any different than now?

Are we suddenly going to see a spike in Chicago gangbanger murders because previously NFA items are POOF! over the counter?

Link Posted: 6/28/2018 6:34:02 PM EDT
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Good.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 6:43:04 PM EDT
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Yay social conservatives
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If only Roe V. Wade and 2nd Amendment supporters joined forces. Seems like it would be a fairly large group, maybe a huge majority.

But alas.
Yay social conservatives
You know that gun rights is a social issue, right?

If you’re pro gun, you’re a social conservative.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 6:54:52 PM EDT
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Roe is not contrary to life and liberty.

Both are about freedom of choice.

Nobody is making you get an abortion.  Taking away the option is actually less freedom.

Until we're in agreement on when life begins, we aren't going to agree on the abortion debate.

I doubt that the nation will ever agree on that, given the various religions/lack of religious beliefs out there.
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Contradicting philosophies shouldn't join forces.  Roe is contrary to the pursuit of life and liberty, while the 2A protects life and liberty.
Roe is not contrary to life and liberty.

Both are about freedom of choice.

Nobody is making you get an abortion.  Taking away the option is actually less freedom.

Until we're in agreement on when life begins, we aren't going to agree on the abortion debate.

I doubt that the nation will ever agree on that, given the various religions/lack of religious beliefs out there.
I'm pretty sure science could settle when life begins. Libtards are all about "Science", right?
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 6:57:26 PM EDT
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Thomas is by far my favorite SC justice. The fact that the left hates him with a passion is a bonus. To them he's a cooning Uncle Tom. He hates liberals. He isn't going anywhere until he puts his name on 2A legislation.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 7:20:53 PM EDT
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Thomas is by far my favorite SC justice. The fact that the left hates him with a passion is a bonus. To them he's a cooning Uncle Tom. He hates liberals. He isn't going anywhere until he puts his name on 2A legislation.
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Absolutely. We need 8 more of him.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 7:31:29 PM EDT
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And still, the ARFcom NeverTrump contingent moans_on and on about how terrible it is that President Trump was elected.
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How they would stay at home and risk the fate of your very replublic for petty feels and not getting a candidate that 100% perfect all of the time.

Heck I seem to remember people posting they were not going to vote becuase Meliania had some modeling pics floating around and that's was not First Lady like.

Seems retarded from the outside looking in and the battles you guys are facing.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 7:34:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/28/2018 8:34:49 PM EDT
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The Huffinglue post can eat a bag of dicks.

I hope we get all the freedom back that we've lost since the GCANFA.

Strict scrutiny is the first step IMHO.
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Fixed.  
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 9:08:58 PM EDT
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No.

Because abortion "activists" are fucking progressive and want to kill a lot more than babies.
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If you'll kill an innocent baby, you’ll damn sure kill just about anyone, and smile while doing it.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 10:31:16 PM EDT
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Contradicting philosophies shouldn't join forces.  Roe is contrary to the pursuit of life and liberty, while the 2A protects life and liberty.
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Is it?

Just depends on who's life you're talking about.  It's splitting hairs, but thou shall not kill splits a lot of hairs for those that stick their hands in the air.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 10:36:17 PM EDT
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You own yourself.

If you don't own yourself, there's no real basis for private property rights.

This argument of course ignores morality.

But legally, Rothbard argued a fetus is akin to a parasite or a non paying tenant, and can be evicted at the owner's discretion.
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You are going to have to convince me that killing unwanted children is not only moral, but constitutionally protected.

And.............................go.
I'm pro life, but I'll give it a go.

Private property rights.
Can we still own people?!
You own yourself.

If you don't own yourself, there's no real basis for private property rights.

This argument of course ignores morality.

But legally, Rothbard argued a fetus is akin to a parasite or a non paying tenant, and can be evicted at the owner's discretion.
So, your landlord can come and kill you, to get you out of their property?
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 10:38:31 PM EDT
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Trump will get a third Sup. Ct. nomination, that will trigger an avalanche of changes.

Greatest President evar.....

Link Posted: 6/28/2018 10:40:35 PM EDT
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One way to look at the issue of the A word is that right now you have 2 choices. One choice is that Ds are the maojority (spelling intended) and the A word is legal. The other choice is that Rs are the majority and the A word is legal.  There are currently no other choices.  Choose wisely.

I'm just the messenger.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 11:13:14 PM EDT
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So, your landlord can come and kill you, to get you out of their property?
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You are going to have to convince me that killing unwanted children is not only moral, but constitutionally protected.

And.............................go.
I'm pro life, but I'll give it a go.

Private property rights.
Can we still own people?!
You own yourself.

If you don't own yourself, there's no real basis for private property rights.

This argument of course ignores morality.

But legally, Rothbard argued a fetus is akin to a parasite or a non paying tenant, and can be evicted at the owner's discretion.
So, your landlord can come and kill you, to get you out of their property?
Again, I'm pro life.

But I'm just arguing this issue for sake of devil's advocate.

From a private property argument, you enter an agreement with the landlord.

As savage as it may seem, (legally and philosophically speaking) an unborn child is offering nothing while taking resources.

The unborn child is killed due to a decision to no longer provide those nutrients, and physical burdens for free.

I do not advocate that position.

But the counter argument might be interpreted as a requirement for people to provide for others they do not wish to care for.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 11:45:41 PM EDT
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Again, I'm pro life.

But I'm just arguing this issue for sake of devil's advocate.

From a private property argument, you enter an agreement with the landlord.

As savage as it may seem, (legally and philosophically speaking) an unborn child is offering nothing while taking resources.

The unborn child is killed due to a decision to no longer provide those nutrients, and physical burdens for free.

I do not advocate that position.

But the counter argument might be interpreted as a requirement for people to provide for others they do not wish to care for.
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You are going to have to convince me that killing unwanted children is not only moral, but constitutionally protected.

And.............................go.
I'm pro life, but I'll give it a go.

Private property rights.
Can we still own people?!
You own yourself.

If you don't own yourself, there's no real basis for private property rights.

This argument of course ignores morality.

But legally, Rothbard argued a fetus is akin to a parasite or a non paying tenant, and can be evicted at the owner's discretion.
So, your landlord can come and kill you, to get you out of their property?
Again, I'm pro life.

But I'm just arguing this issue for sake of devil's advocate.

From a private property argument, you enter an agreement with the landlord.

As savage as it may seem, (legally and philosophically speaking) an unborn child is offering nothing while taking resources.

The unborn child is killed due to a decision to no longer provide those nutrients, and physical burdens for free.

I do not advocate that position.

But the counter argument might be interpreted as a requirement for people to provide for others they do not wish to care for.
Do you invite a destitute person into your home, then kill them when you realize they're consuming more than you can provide?
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 11:52:40 PM EDT
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Excellent.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 11:57:09 PM EDT
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Yup.  This is one area Mitch is going to fuck around on.

If you haven't noticed, Mitch is pissed Harry Reid changed the rules in the senate.  So he fucked them two ways:
1) he used The Biden Rule to fuck the democrats of Garland
2) he used Reid's new rule to fuck them on Gorsuch

Mitch is actually good for SCOTUS nominees.
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Not to mention, his wife was just accosted.
Link Posted: 6/29/2018 12:12:38 AM EDT
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Again, I'm pro life.

But I'm just arguing this issue for sake of devil's advocate.

From a private property argument, you enter an agreement with the landlord.

As savage as it may seem, (legally and philosophically speaking) an unborn child is offering nothing while taking resources.

The unborn child is killed due to a decision to no longer provide those nutrients, and physical burdens for free.

I do not advocate that position.

But the counter argument might be interpreted as a requirement for people to provide for others they do not wish to care for.
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That's true. But by that same argument, you can morally kill your six-year-old daughter, too. She does nothing but consume resources.
Link Posted: 6/29/2018 12:26:46 AM EDT
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Man, America hit it out of the motherfucking park when Clarence Thomas was selected for the bench!
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110%, he’s awesome, if we could only have a whole court of Justices who would respect the Constitution as much as he does we’d be much better off as a country.
Link Posted: 6/29/2018 12:31:43 AM EDT
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.   You remind me of
EXP somebody
Link Posted: 6/29/2018 12:35:53 AM EDT
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He has more faith in losing gun control than I do. The same as the Dem's are saying good bye Roe V Wade and others. I look any day now for the Dems to say "There goes Brown V Board of Education".
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Didn't you hear?

Trump just vetoed the 13th Amendment!!!

In other liberal news ...   The Sky is Falling!!!  The Sky is Falling!!!!
Link Posted: 6/29/2018 12:37:43 AM EDT
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If only Roe V. Wade and 2nd Amendment supporters joined forces. Seems like it would be a fairly large group, maybe a huge majority.

But alas.
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Link Posted: 6/29/2018 12:41:18 AM EDT
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If only Roe V. Wade and 2nd Amendment supporters joined forces. Seems like it would be a fairly large group, maybe a huge majority.

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hell, I think old white men should not be that interested in vaginas that dont belong to their wife, I am a man and will never have to carry a child so I think I should stay out of the argument. Now I also don't care for abortion, I wont have one, and sure don't want my tax dollars spent on it.  But at this point, if it makes the libs cry,I am kinda OK with it
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