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Posted: 4/4/2016 9:55:24 PM EDT
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grew up there. Wasn't on coast for landfall but the aftermath was unbelievable and it's hard to imagine the water that high. Pisses me off that while the coast was leveled in places it got basically ignored due to the FSA trash in New Orleans.
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I can relate. I rode Hurricane Ike out in High Island , Texas. We were surrounded by water for days. I lived about 7 miles down the coast in Gilchrist and it erased the town. Sad memories for sure.
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I'm going to be that guy.
You were told to get the fuck out and yet you didn't. My uncle was in it thinking he'd ride it out like other hurricanes. Dumbass. |
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I'm going to be that guy. You were told to get the fuck out and yet you didn't. My uncle was in it thinking he'd ride it out like other hurricanes. Dumbass. View Quote while you are right, you need to understand that it is a bit of a culture thing. At least in south MS, the older generations always "tough" it out. Just how it is. people who lived right on the beach would go stay with family/friends further inland. These people are not FSA and started cleaning up/rebuilding the day after. |
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Impossible. New Orleans was the only area affected by Katrina.
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while you are right, you need to understand that it is a bit of a culture thing. At least in south MS, the older generations always "tough" it out. Just how it is. people who lived right on the beach would go stay with family/friends further inland. These people are not FSA and started cleaning up/rebuilding the day after. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm going to be that guy. You were told to get the fuck out and yet you didn't. My uncle was in it thinking he'd ride it out like other hurricanes. Dumbass. while you are right, you need to understand that it is a bit of a culture thing. At least in south MS, the older generations always "tough" it out. Just how it is. people who lived right on the beach would go stay with family/friends further inland. These people are not FSA and started cleaning up/rebuilding the day after. In a storm surge area, absolutely go inland. Anywhere else I'm not going to stay in some hotel in laurel or wherever for two weeks while all my shit gets stolen or the roof needs covering while some cops from up north refuse to let you back in the area. Fuck that. |
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Pisses me off that while the coast was leveled in places it got basically ignored due to the FSA trash in New Orleans. View Quote Yup. I was stationed at Keesler from 2011 to 2013. Some of the civilians who were retired military in my unit were senior NCOs when the storm went through. Biloxi, Gulfport, and all those other little towns were leveled but no one gave a crap about the locals except other locals. Hell, there were still tons of empty lots and bare foundations when I was stationed there. |
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while you are right, you need to understand that it is a bit of a culture thing. At least in south MS, the older generations always "tough" it out. Just how it is. people who lived right on the beach would go stay with family/friends further inland. These people are not FSA and started cleaning up/rebuilding the day after. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm going to be that guy. You were told to get the fuck out and yet you didn't. My uncle was in it thinking he'd ride it out like other hurricanes. Dumbass. while you are right, you need to understand that it is a bit of a culture thing. At least in south MS, the older generations always "tough" it out. Just how it is. people who lived right on the beach would go stay with family/friends further inland. These people are not FSA and started cleaning up/rebuilding the day after. I know. He was a tough old bird and refused my pleading to get the fuck out. Uncle speck this is no regular hurricane! Get out! Good folk yes, stubborn to a fault. Sorry for the sidetrack. I miss my uncle Spec |
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Our Search Dogs at the aftermath of Gulfport... http://www.fototime.com/E265D79442FC15F/medium800.jpg http://www.fototime.com/5A311B4BAE02676/medium800.jpg http://www.fototime.com/DD60EABC6B8E7F2/medium800.jpg View Quote Do the dogs wear any type of foot protection? I just did some training with the southern baptist convention disaster relief. I know on certain parts of the cleanup areas I would personally be wearing steel shank shoes. |
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There was a video somewhere on the interwebs of what I believe was a levy breaking and the resulting flood of a neighborhood.
Not the lower 9th, it was a little subdivision of nice, newer two story tract houses. Started with a before shot of the neighborhood, then the water/wind started coming. Homeowner was shooting video from his house. Then all hell broke loose and the water level shot up to the top of the 1st floor of the houses, then started encroaching on the 2nd. It went from "wow, it is rainy and windy" to "crap, my truck is toast and my house is flooding", better get upstairs and ended at "I think we are going to die". AFAIK they survived but the video is even more frightening then this one. |
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View Quote No, it was Dick Cheney and his Haliburton Racist Weather Macine. Crazy video and pics. TC |
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View Quote All the libs still blame Mr. Bush. Idiots I say. |
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Did a little bit of work with some of the refugees in the days and weeks after. I think it's the closest thing I've ever personally seen to shell shock. People clutching what little they now own in torn up dirty bags, who would just sit and stare at nothing. Like they couldn't believe or comprehend what had happened to them, their homes, their loved ones.
It was the sort of thing that has quite an effect on you. |
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I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby.
Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. |
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Quoted: I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby. Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. View Quote It's FEMA that is ridiculous. Now any new structures have to be so many feet off the ground which runs the costs way up according to their rules. There is also a movement on the coast to find a way to self-insure to get things done. |
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I was there last week. Cool place to hang out. Beach is nice but the water's gross.
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I hope the hotel didn't sue them for leaving a door open and letting all that water in That was amazing |
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i was there for that..... the ONLY way i would live on the ocean, is in a rv, with a concrete slab.
theres a hurricane coming !?! oh noes ! load up my house, and drive it north.... come back a week later, hose off my concrete slab, and hook the house back up. |
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I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby. Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. View Quote Yup, They also have the high water mark on the wall in the lobby. That was a big storm surge. |
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I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby. Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. View Quote no. IIRC the us gov subsidizes hurricane / flood insurance and its actually pretty cheap. its pretty much the ONLY way most of the people who live in the coasts, can afford to have insurance. if it didnt exhist... most of those houses would have never been built in the first place, and they could not have been financed, as the owners could never afford insurance. |
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Do the dogs wear any type of foot protection? I just did some training with the southern baptist convention disaster relief. I know on certain parts of the cleanup areas I would personally be wearing steel shank shoes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Our Search Dogs at the aftermath of Gulfport... http://www.fototime.com/E265D79442FC15F/medium800.jpg http://www.fototime.com/5A311B4BAE02676/medium800.jpg http://www.fototime.com/DD60EABC6B8E7F2/medium800.jpg Do the dogs wear any type of foot protection? I just did some training with the southern baptist convention disaster relief. I know on certain parts of the cleanup areas I would personally be wearing steel shank shoes. We tried foot protection at the World Trade Center after 911. Thousands of dog boots were donated but the dogs lost all tactile sensation and had a hard time moving. We ended up wrapping their feet in coban elastic bandages and leaving only the toes exposed. They had wrist and pad protection and were still able to feel where they were walking. |
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It's FEMA that is ridiculous. Now any new structures have to be so many feet off the ground which runs the costs way up according to their rules. There is also a movement on the coast to find a way to self-insure to get things done. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby. Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. It's FEMA that is ridiculous. Now any new structures have to be so many feet off the ground which runs the costs way up according to their rules. There is also a movement on the coast to find a way to self-insure to get things done. so, you get reasonable insurance...when your living in a possible disaster area, that has been a disaster area historically who knows how many times, with a very high likely hood it could be another disaster area, at anytime....... .. but to get it, you have to build to a code? id say thats a reasonable building plan, when your chances of getting 10' of water at your location are pretty high. the only reason you can get insurance on a house in that area, is due to the gov subsidizing it.... otherwise you would be paying $3000.00 a month , for home owners insurance. |
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no. IIRC the us gov subsidizes hurricane / flood insurance and its actually pretty cheap. its pretty much the ONLY way most of the people who live in the coasts, can afford to have insurance. if it didnt exhist... most of those houses would have never been built in the first place, and they could not have been financed, as the owners could never afford insurance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby. Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. no. IIRC the us gov subsidizes hurricane / flood insurance and its actually pretty cheap. its pretty much the ONLY way most of the people who live in the coasts, can afford to have insurance. if it didnt exhist... most of those houses would have never been built in the first place, and they could not have been financed, as the owners could never afford insurance. Jesus Christ, so everyone else pays so a few can enjoy living on the coast. |
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http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/banking/starting-april-1-homeowners-to-see-subsidized-flood-insurance-phased-out/2223297
"My insurance is more than my mortgage," Loft-Powers said in a phone interview from her year-round home in Deerfield Beach, near Fort Lauderdale. "I live by the beach in an old neighborhood. I pay (too much) insurance for a … house that's not great."
On Wednesday — April Fool's Day — a congressional act that revised federal insurance premiums goes into effect, and coastal homeowners such as Loft-Powers say the joke will be on them. The government is slowly phasing out subsidized flood insurance for more than a million Americans with houses in flood zones who, in some cases, pay half the true commercial rate. Some owners say they are angry because their houses near lakes, rivers, bays and oceans were much more affordable with cheap rates that will now increase by as much as 25 percent each year until the premiums equal the full risk of settling down on property mapped as a flood zone. . View Quote |
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Quoted: so, you get reasonable insurance...when your living in a possible disaster area, that has been a disaster area historically who knows how many times, with a very high likely hood it could be another disaster area, at anytime....... .. but to get it, you have to build to a code? id say thats a reasonable building plan, when your chances of getting 10' of water at your location are pretty high. the only reason you can get insurance on a house in that area, is due to the gov subsidizing it.... otherwise you would be paying $3000.00 a month , for home owners insurance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby. Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. It's FEMA that is ridiculous. Now any new structures have to be so many feet off the ground which runs the costs way up according to their rules. There is also a movement on the coast to find a way to self-insure to get things done. so, you get reasonable insurance...when your living in a possible disaster area, that has been a disaster area historically who knows how many times, with a very high likely hood it could be another disaster area, at anytime....... .. but to get it, you have to build to a code? id say thats a reasonable building plan, when your chances of getting 10' of water at your location are pretty high. the only reason you can get insurance on a house in that area, is due to the gov subsidizing it.... otherwise you would be paying $3000.00 a month , for home owners insurance. Ok. I'm glad you told everyone on the coast it was affordable along with the added costs of building so many extra feet off the ground. You know better than the ones trying to build. Anyway, there's plenty of structures on the coast that look like this place in Long Beach: |
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Ok. I'm glad you told everyone on the coast it was affordable along with the added costs of building so many extra feet off the ground. You know better than the ones trying to build. Anyway, there's plenty of structures on the coast that look like this place in Long Beach: http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/08/64/05/b8/oyster-reef-club.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby. Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. It's FEMA that is ridiculous. Now any new structures have to be so many feet off the ground which runs the costs way up according to their rules. There is also a movement on the coast to find a way to self-insure to get things done. so, you get reasonable insurance...when your living in a possible disaster area, that has been a disaster area historically who knows how many times, with a very high likely hood it could be another disaster area, at anytime....... .. but to get it, you have to build to a code? id say thats a reasonable building plan, when your chances of getting 10' of water at your location are pretty high. the only reason you can get insurance on a house in that area, is due to the gov subsidizing it.... otherwise you would be paying $3000.00 a month , for home owners insurance. Ok. I'm glad you told everyone on the coast it was affordable along with the added costs of building so many extra feet off the ground. You know better than the ones trying to build. Anyway, there's plenty of structures on the coast that look like this place in Long Beach: http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/08/64/05/b8/oyster-reef-club.jpg i never said it was cheap to build. florida and the coasts have some of the strictest building codes in the country, BECAUSE the chances of your house / business on the coast getting destroyed / hit by a hurricane is EXTREMELY high.... i was born in homestead florida, and my entire family is from florida, i am no stranger to hurricanes, and storm damage.. if it was not for the gov offering you cheaper / subsidized insurance ( compared to what a private party would have you pay, without the gov involvement), you would not be living there anyway..... you might be able to afford to live in a camper / RV, but not in a house, because no one would finance it, as you could never afford the insurance payments. it looks like the gov is starting to finally increase their insurance rates, but IIRC they held it REALLY low for a long time. katrina almost bankrupted the entire insurance industry... so rates are going up. it sucks to have to pay high insurance and build according to expensive building codes, but its because of your location, and the very high chance you will be filing insurance claims in the future, stricter building codes are there to reduce damage, and save lives, and reduce costs to insurance, as your house probably received less damage due to the better construction. |
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You don't about that shit because our Governor and our state got off its collective ass and went to work. Were's the human interest in that kind of old school crap?
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Quoted: i never said it was cheap to build. florida and the coasts have some of the strictest building codes in the country, BECAUSE the chances of your house / business on the coast getting destroyed / hit by a hurricane is EXTREMELY high.... i was born in homestead florida, and my entire family is from florida, i am no stranger to hurricanes, and storm damage.. if it was not for the gov offering you cheap insurance ( compared to what a private party would have you pay, without the gov involvement), you would not be living there anyway..... you might be able to afford to live in a camper / RV, but not in a house, because no one would finance it, as you could never afford the insurance payments. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby. Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. It's FEMA that is ridiculous. Now any new structures have to be so many feet off the ground which runs the costs way up according to their rules. There is also a movement on the coast to find a way to self-insure to get things done. so, you get reasonable insurance...when your living in a possible disaster area, that has been a disaster area historically who knows how many times, with a very high likely hood it could be another disaster area, at anytime....... .. but to get it, you have to build to a code? id say thats a reasonable building plan, when your chances of getting 10' of water at your location are pretty high. the only reason you can get insurance on a house in that area, is due to the gov subsidizing it.... otherwise you would be paying $3000.00 a month , for home owners insurance. Ok. I'm glad you told everyone on the coast it was affordable along with the added costs of building so many extra feet off the ground. You know better than the ones trying to build. Anyway, there's plenty of structures on the coast that look like this place in Long Beach: http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/08/64/05/b8/oyster-reef-club.jpg i never said it was cheap to build. florida and the coasts have some of the strictest building codes in the country, BECAUSE the chances of your house / business on the coast getting destroyed / hit by a hurricane is EXTREMELY high.... i was born in homestead florida, and my entire family is from florida, i am no stranger to hurricanes, and storm damage.. if it was not for the gov offering you cheap insurance ( compared to what a private party would have you pay, without the gov involvement), you would not be living there anyway..... you might be able to afford to live in a camper / RV, but not in a house, because no one would finance it, as you could never afford the insurance payments. Ok, you made your fucking point...more than once. We are so much better off now that you have educated us and now we know how good we have it because of the government. Bless your heart. |
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You don't about that shit because our Governor and our state got off its collective ass and went to work. Were's the human interest in that kind of old school crap? View Quote Yep. Town I spent some time in as a youth had a big tornado tear through back in the 50s that wiped out a lot and killed quite a few. As soon as the storm broke, all you could see for miles was the headlights of people who lived out in the country/surrounding little towns heading in to see how they could help. This was before the days of big news, so people just understood that something bad had happened and people over there might need some help. My granddad spent days running tires back and forth from town to the nearest intact tire shop to get vehicles moving again. Same thing happens if someone is sick or injured during harvest...everyone else will come over and help harvest his crops for him....no questions asked, no compensation demanded. That's what happens when you have a community of doers who are used to providing for themselves and their families. Folks used to being on the dole can't seem to grasp the concept that a local community with a sense of self worth and pride is always going to be 100 times more effective than a federal government effort. It's damn near criminal how the rest of the gulf coast was ignored because "New Orleans". |
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Our Search Dogs at the aftermath of Gulfport... http://www.fototime.com/E265D79442FC15F/medium800.jpg http://www.fototime.com/5A311B4BAE02676/medium800.jpg http://www.fototime.com/DD60EABC6B8E7F2/medium800.jpg View Quote Very cool, Thanks for helping out. Didn't realize y'all came down. |
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you really cant imagine the destruction. you see a house hit by a tornado, and you can see the destruction.... but this is totally different. its like every house within 1/2 mile x 30 miles was totally destroved to the ground, then the next mile everything was flooded 10' deep... even normal looking houses were totalled, due to water damage. i was in a neighborhood in hattiesburg, and EVERYTHING from the railroad tracks to the ocean ( approx 1/2 mile or so) was totally destroyed. it looked like someone had run over the houses with a giant lawn mower. as far as you could see in every direction. the interstate had huge assed boats laying in the middle of it.
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I remember Hurricane Gloria that hit Long Island, during the eye we drove to the bar which was still open and tipped a few back.
Had something like Katrina been coming I would have been somewhere else, anyone that sticks around for something like that is nuts. |
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I was at Keesler just after the storm. Everything was wrecked.
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