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Posted: 4/5/2016 1:45:34 PM EDT
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I remember the days before the storm rolled in while it was still out in the Gulf. I recall this entire weekend with an amazing amount of clarity.
It was an awesome weekend before Katrina made landfall. 
I had my Katrina damage (small amount of water damage inside my garage) fixed about 6 months ago. It was mostly just heavy rain and wind for us. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 1:47:04 PM EDT
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But....but....New Orleans! That's some crazy footage Just saw this thread. Was going to post this verbatim. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 1:51:47 PM EDT
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I had to go down to set up a client company's network connectivity for restoring the Beau Rivage Casino/Hotel in Biloxi.
Looked like a bomb strike. It was absolutely unbelievable. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 1:53:07 PM EDT
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I remember the days before the storm rolled in while it was still out in the Gulf. I recall this entire weekend with an amazing amount of clarity. It was an awesome weekend before Katrina made landfall.
I had my Katrina damage (small amount of water damage inside my garage) fixed about 6 months ago. It was mostly just heavy rain and wind for us. Katrina in Jackson was a mere annoyance compared to the coast. Power was out for 10 days and I got a new roof and fence. My wife was 6mos pregnant with our first, so the lack of electricity (A/C!!!) was kinda tough on her. Also, the Jackson Gasoline Wars. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:01:34 PM EDT
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Jesus Christ, so everyone else pays so a few 123.3 million people can enjoy living on the coast.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby. Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. no. IIRC the us gov subsidizes hurricane / flood insurance and its actually pretty cheap. its pretty much the ONLY way most of the people who live in the coasts, can afford to have insurance. if it didnt exhist... most of those houses would have never been built in the first place, and they could not have been financed, as the owners could never afford insurance.  Jesus Christ, so everyone else pays so a few 123.3 million people can enjoy living on the coast. Fixed it for ya, per the 2010 Census. 
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:04:27 PM EDT
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Katrina in Jackson was a mere annoyance compared to the coast. Power was out for 10 days and I got a new roof and fence. My wife was 6mos pregnant with our first, so the lack of electricity (A/C!!!) was kinda tough on her. Also, the Jackson Gasoline Wars. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I remember the days before the storm rolled in while it was still out in the Gulf. I recall this entire weekend with an amazing amount of clarity. It was an awesome weekend before Katrina made landfall.
I had my Katrina damage (small amount of water damage inside my garage) fixed about 6 months ago. It was mostly just heavy rain and wind for us. Katrina in Jackson was a mere annoyance compared to the coast. Power was out for 10 days and I got a new roof and fence. My wife was 6mos pregnant with our first, so the lack of electricity (A/C!!!) was kinda tough on her. Also, the Jackson Gasoline Wars. The weather was beautiful in the days leading up to the storm. That Thursday, Friday and Saturday it was very nice out. Jackson Gasoline Wars and power outages? You don't say! 
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:05:06 PM EDT
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We tried foot protection at the World Trade Center after 911. Thousands of dog boots were donated but the dogs lost all tactile sensation and had a hard time moving. We ended up wrapping their feet in coban elastic bandages and leaving only the toes exposed. They had wrist and pad protection and were still able to feel where they were walking. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Our Search Dogs at the aftermath of Gulfport... http://www.fototime.com/E265D79442FC15F/medium800.jpg http://www.fototime.com/5A311B4BAE02676/medium800.jpg http://www.fototime.com/DD60EABC6B8E7F2/medium800.jpg Do the dogs wear any type of foot protection? I just did some training with the southern baptist convention disaster relief. I know on certain parts of the cleanup areas I would personally be wearing steel shank shoes. We tried foot protection at the World Trade Center after 911. Thousands of dog boots were donated but the dogs lost all tactile sensation and had a hard time moving. We ended up wrapping their feet in coban elastic bandages and leaving only the toes exposed. They had wrist and pad protection and were still able to feel where they were walking. Something I've always wondered, and feel free to tell me to shut up. Are you guys contracted out by FEMA or is this a volunteer thing? I just wonder if the rescue dog thing is a full time gig or something you do on the side. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:05:42 PM EDT
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you really cant imagine the destruction. you see a house hit by a tornado, and you can see the destruction.... but this is totally different. its like every house within 1/2 mile x 30 miles was totally destroved to the ground, then the next mile everything was flooded 10' deep... even normal looking houses were totalled, due to water damage. i was in a neighborhood in Hattiesburg, and EVERYTHING from the railroad tracks to the ocean ( approx 1/2 mile or so) was totally destroyed. it looked like someone had run over the houses with a giant lawn mower. as far as you could see in every direction. the interstate had huge assed boats laying in the middle of it. You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:06:55 PM EDT
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You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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you really cant imagine the destruction. you see a house hit by a tornado, and you can see the destruction.... but this is totally different. its like every house within 1/2 mile x 30 miles was totally destroved to the ground, then the next mile everything was flooded 10' deep... even normal looking houses were totalled, due to water damage. i was in a neighborhood in Hattiesburg, and EVERYTHING from the railroad tracks to the ocean ( approx 1/2 mile or so) was totally destroyed. it looked like someone had run over the houses with a giant lawn mower. as far as you could see in every direction. the interstate had huge assed boats laying in the middle of it. You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. 
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:08:24 PM EDT
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Saw it in person before during and after. Quite fucked up to see our familys homes on the gulf washed into pieces. My dads was the only house in our family south of I10 to survive and he only escaped flooding because the 3 house's in front of his blocked the surge.
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:09:07 PM EDT
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I'm a little surprised that some of this stuff is news to anyone. That area didn't have a levy system, and they had construction right on the beach (they still do, for that matter). I don't know how strong the new construction is, but it's still right on the beach; if another Katrina hits that area, you'll probably see a similar aftermath.
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:09:12 PM EDT
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I grew up in Gulfport. Moved to Oxford in'96. Three days after the storm we (Oxford Fire) arrived at the EOC which was set up at the Harrison County Courthouse. We were there for heavy rescue(recovery). Search teams would go out and locate the dead then come back and give us the GPS coordinates. We'd then go into the debris field with jacks, chainsaws, etc. and recover the bodies. The majority of the debris field was south of the RR tracks. The tracks acted as a damn. Every structure that was south of the tracks and detroyed, ended up in the 1/2 mile x 30 mile debris field mentioned earlier.
When we got our first assignment (Right of off HWY 90), my chief said, "You grew up here, show us the way." "No problem, chief" Except there was a problem. All of the landmarks were gone. I'll never forget that initial feeling of being totally lost in the town I grew up in. I resorted to counting the streets from east to west so we could find out where we were supposed to go. Friends of mine lived 5 miles from he beach. Still got 8 feet of water in there home. They lived on the Bayou. If you lived by water, you got flooded. Some friends lost everything they owned and were damn lucky to survive. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:10:19 PM EDT
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i was in a neighborhood in hattiesburg, and EVERYTHING from the railroad tracks to the ocean ( approx 1/2 mile or so) was totally destroyed. it looked like someone had run over the houses with a giant lawn mower. as far as you could see in every direction. the interstate had huge assed boats laying in the middle of it. I think you may be getting your cities mixed up... We moved to the Mississippi coast after Katrina and wanted to build on or near the water. The insurance quote we got for an approximately $400,000 structure within 1/2 mile of the beach was $16,000 per year with no guarantee that it would not go up each year. We decided to build a little further inland. Between the cost to build 24 feet above sea level and the insurance costs, you almost have to self insure to build on the coast anymore. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:13:27 PM EDT
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you really cant imagine the destruction. you see a house hit by a tornado, and you can see the destruction.... but this is totally different. its like every house within 1/2 mile x 30 miles was totally destroved to the ground, then the next mile everything was flooded 10' deep... even normal looking houses were totalled, due to water damage. i was in a neighborhood in Hattiesburg, and EVERYTHING from the railroad tracks to the ocean ( approx 1/2 mile or so) was totally destroyed. it looked like someone had run over the houses with a giant lawn mower. as far as you could see in every direction. the interstate had huge assed boats laying in the middle of it. You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. http://vomzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/latest-oh-snap-gif-569.gif There were some fuel tanks from the Diamondhead airport on I-10 north of Bay St Louis. Maybe he is thinking of that. 
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:14:06 PM EDT
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I think you may be getting your cities mixed up... We moved to the Mississippi coast after Katrina and wanted to build on or near the water. The insurance quote we got for an approximately $400,000 structure within 1/2 mile of the beach was $16,000 per year with no guarantee that it would not go up each year. We decided to build a little further inland. Between the cost to build 24 feet above sea level and the insurance costs, you almost have to self insure to build on the coast anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i was in a neighborhood in hattiesburg, and EVERYTHING from the railroad tracks to the ocean ( approx 1/2 mile or so) was totally destroyed. it looked like someone had run over the houses with a giant lawn mower. as far as you could see in every direction. the interstate had huge assed boats laying in the middle of it. I think you may be getting your cities mixed up... We moved to the Mississippi coast after Katrina and wanted to build on or near the water. The insurance quote we got for an approximately $400,000 structure within 1/2 mile of the beach was $16,000 per year with no guarantee that it would not go up each year. We decided to build a little further inland. Between the cost to build 24 feet above sea level and the insurance costs, you almost have to self insure to build on the coast anymore. North of I10 and/or out of V zones or velocity zones. Unless you luck out and find land or a house outside a v zone you are fucked. My dads went up from 1100 yr to 5k yr and thats not inside a v zone since his was grandfathered or some shit. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:15:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. Maybe down towards Waveland there may have been some boats on the interstate. Some areas of I-10 in that area were under water. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:16:47 PM EDT
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You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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you really cant imagine the destruction. you see a house hit by a tornado, and you can see the destruction.... but this is totally different. its like every house within 1/2 mile x 30 miles was totally destroved to the ground, then the next mile everything was flooded 10' deep... even normal looking houses were totalled, due to water damage. i was in a neighborhood in Hattiesburg, and EVERYTHING from the railroad tracks to the ocean ( approx 1/2 mile or so) was totally destroyed. it looked like someone had run over the houses with a giant lawn mower. as far as you could see in every direction. the interstate had huge assed boats laying in the middle of it. You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. 
your right, i had it backwards. we were working in and around gulfport for about a week, then we moved to hattiesburg and spent the rest of our time delivering water, ice and mre's to peoples houses. its was gulfport i was refering to. iv stated before that my memory sucks.
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:17:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: you really cant imagine the destruction. you see a house hit by a tornado, and you can see the destruction.... but this is totally different. its like every house within 1/2 mile x 30 miles was totally destroved to the ground, then the next mile everything was flooded 10' deep... even normal looking houses were totalled, due to water damage. i was in a neighborhood in Hattiesburg, and EVERYTHING from the railroad tracks to the ocean ( approx 1/2 mile or so) was totally destroyed. it looked like someone had run over the houses with a giant lawn mower. as far as you could see in every direction. the interstate had huge assed boats laying in the middle of it. You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. http://vomzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/latest-oh-snap-gif-569.gif  |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:17:59 PM EDT
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Maybe down towards Waveland there may have been some boats on the interstate. Some areas of I-10 in that area were under water. Quote HistoryQuoted:
You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. Maybe down towards Waveland there may have been some boats on the interstate. Some areas of I-10 in that area were under water. From the la/ms line to pascagoula, every city had boats on hwy 90 and shit. There were 2 shrimp boats and a half dozen small pleasure boats infront of dodge chicken just in gautier. Biloxi had casino barges and shit tons of boats scattered across hwy 90 and up towards pass road, also the biloxi bridge waa wiped out as well. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:18:03 PM EDT
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You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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you really cant imagine the destruction. you see a house hit by a tornado, and you can see the destruction.... but this is totally different. its like every house within 1/2 mile x 30 miles was totally destroved to the ground, then the next mile everything was flooded 10' deep... even normal looking houses were totalled, due to water damage. i was in a neighborhood in Hattiesburg, and EVERYTHING from the railroad tracks to the ocean ( approx 1/2 mile or so) was totally destroyed. it looked like someone had run over the houses with a giant lawn mower. as far as you could see in every direction. the interstate had huge assed boats laying in the middle of it. You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. I'm betting he can't remember the name of the town. He's describing most of the stuff correctly. There were boats visible from I-10 in the Back Bay area. There were also boats on 603 near I-10 over in Hancock Co. but the waterline on the 10 over pass was 3-4 feet below the road surface. I don't remember a large boat on any of the interstates I traveled either. Although 110 was cleared before I got there. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:18:09 PM EDT
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I was in The Valley during Beulah
Water water everywhere and not a drop to drink It took a couple weeks for the water to go down. There was no where for it to go. Couldn't drive anywhere because the roads were all under water I really don't understand how more people did not perish in the flooding As a dumbass kid all I remember was having all that water to play in, and not allowed to 
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:21:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can relate. I rode Hurricane Ike out in High Island , Texas. We were surrounded by water for days. I lived about 7 miles down the coast in Gilchrist and it erased the town. Sad memories for sure. But would you do it again? It can be kind of a hard way to go. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:26:25 PM EDT
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There were some fuel tanks from the Diamondhead airport on I-10 north of Bay St Louis. Maybe he is thinking of that. http://www.lowellnet.net/Diamondhead.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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you really cant imagine the destruction. you see a house hit by a tornado, and you can see the destruction.... but this is totally different. its like every house within 1/2 mile x 30 miles was totally destroved to the ground, then the next mile everything was flooded 10' deep... even normal looking houses were totalled, due to water damage. i was in a neighborhood in Hattiesburg, and EVERYTHING from the railroad tracks to the ocean ( approx 1/2 mile or so) was totally destroyed. it looked like someone had run over the houses with a giant lawn mower. as far as you could see in every direction. the interstate had huge assed boats laying in the middle of it. You were not in Hattiesburg, which is 80 miles from the coast, and you probably did not see any boats on the interstate, which is over 4 miles from the coast. http://vomzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/latest-oh-snap-gif-569.gif There were some fuel tanks from the Diamondhead airport on I-10 north of Bay St Louis. Maybe he is thinking of that. http://www.lowellnet.net/Diamondhead.jpg thats part of it. there were fuel tanks, conex containers and boats everywhere.... i saw a damn boat on top of a house, on the road leading from 1-10 to gulfport... shit was everywhere, and boats were everywhere. boats in trees, boats in backyards, boats on houses. shit like this.. ( not my pics) just a example. i did see a shitload of boats laying on all kinds of roads and highways... i might be wrong about i-10, fuck i cant remember, there was so much shit everywhere it was insane. as you came into gulfport, there was a flooded walmart to your right, and to your front the ocean, and railroad tracks. EVERYTHING across the railroad tracks was totally destroyed....( except for a huge old brick school or something.. the old school type building with walls a foot thick.. it was in one piece, but was flooded, next to the water, maybe 200 yards away from the ocean, i saw a house on stilts totally gone, but the guys gunsafe / concrete gun vault still anchored to the slab... . everything in the walmart side of the tracks was flooded up to about 15" or more deep. 
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:27:58 PM EDT
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Crazy footage. I was on ground zero 24 hours after Andrew made landfall. If Andrew would have been 100 miles south and hit the Keys/Key West many more people would have died.
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:31:57 PM EDT
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thats part of it. there were fuel tanks, conex containers and boats everywhere.... i saw a damn boat on top of a house, on the road leading from 1-10 to gulfport... shit was everywhere, and boats were everywhere. boats in trees, boats in backyards, boats on houses. shit like this.. ( not my pics) just a example. http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp58/buck19delta/55325895_zpsgzarj0rh.jpg Yeah, there were boats everywhere. I have a bunch of pics on my desktop. Wal-Mart in Biloxi had them, they where all over 49 and 90. Pearlington had them literally everywhere except where should have been. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:35:49 PM EDT
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603 about a mile and a half South of I-10.
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:43:00 PM EDT
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I grew up in Gulfport. Moved to Oxford in'96. Three days after the storm we (Oxford Fire) arrived at the EOC which was set up at the Harrison County Courthouse. We were there for heavy rescue(recovery). Search teams would go out and locate the dead then come back and give us the GPS coordinates. We'd then go into the debris field with jacks, chainsaws, etc. and recover the bodies. The majority of the debris field was south of the RR tracks. The tracks acted as a damn. Every structure that was south of the tracks and detroyed, ended up in the 1/2 mile x 30 mile debris field mentioned earlier. When we got our first assignment (Right of off HWY 90), my chief said, "You grew up here, show us the way." "No problem, chief" Except there was a problem. All of the landmarks were gone. I'll never forget that initial feeling of being totally lost in the town I grew up in. I resorted to counting the streets from east to west so we could find out where we were supposed to go. Friends of mine lived 5 miles from he beach. Still got 8 feet of water in there home. They lived on the Bayou. If you lived by water, you got flooded. Some friends lost everything they owned and were damn lucky to survive. You know, there's something almost magical about that set of RR tracks. I have relatives who lived in Gulfport and their house made it through both Camille and Katrina because of those tracks. You're the only person I've ever seen site that as a geographic dam for the surge, but that's exactly what it is. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:43:51 PM EDT
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while you are right, you need to understand that it is a bit of a culture thing. At least in south MS, the older generations always "tough" it out. Just how it is. people who lived right on the beach would go stay with family/friends further inland. These people are not FSA and started cleaning up/rebuilding the day after. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm going to be that guy. You were told to get the fuck out and yet you didn't. My uncle was in it thinking he'd ride it out like other hurricanes. Dumbass. while you are right, you need to understand that it is a bit of a culture thing. At least in south MS, the older generations always "tough" it out. Just how it is. people who lived right on the beach would go stay with family/friends further inland. These people are not FSA and started cleaning up/rebuilding the day after. This right here. I rode out Katrina and busted ass clearing the streets in the morning. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:44:32 PM EDT
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603 about a mile and a half South of I-10. http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q176/bailey123_album/DSC00002.jpg damn, i forgot about all of the cars... there were cars EVERYWHERE.... that totally helped make it look like some kind of end of the world scene. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:47:40 PM EDT
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I've been through my fair share of hurricanes. That video is crazy!
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:59:17 PM EDT
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I was in school at Mississippi State during Katrina. I remember going to class that morning and several of my classmates lived on the coast. No one could contact anyone down there. Thankfully everyone ended up being ok. One guy said his car was found about 2 miles from his house.
MSU didn't shut down school till the day after. Dumbasses sent an email to all the students to let them know classes were cancelled after Katrina passed through that part of the state later that night. Well, no body had internet or power except MSU which can produce it's own electricity. About 3 days before it hit my friend drove down to Mobile to get his boat. His parents had a house near Mobile bay. The winds from Katrina had already backed up Mobile Bay and was flooding the end of the street. Screw New Orleans, MS was hit way harder than New Orleans. I saw the damage for myself about 3 months later. Holy shit it it was bad. Made Camille look like nothing (Camille while powerful was very small). |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 3:32:30 PM EDT
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That video was unreal. My driveway sits at 6620 ft above sea level, I'm staying here.
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Posted: 4/5/2016 3:50:12 PM EDT
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603 about a mile and a half South of I-10. http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q176/bailey123_album/DSC00002.jpg damn, i forgot about all of the cars... there were cars EVERYWHERE.... that totally helped make it look like some kind of end of the world scene. The smell was part of the experience as well. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:16:16 PM EDT
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That video was unreal. My driveway sits at 6620 ft above sea level, I'm staying here. I live waterfront on a barrier island off the coast of Florida. I know we'll eventually get hit. It's sobering footage to watch. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:18:02 PM EDT
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I had just come in from the rig into Port Sulphur the wednesday before it hit.
The Pogie boats on the bridge were down in Empire, just south of where the rig was. We were skydiving in Moss Point until 10 AM the Saturday before landfall. Hauled ass back to Lafayette when we heard they were going to contra-flow I-10 and I-12. We HAD a camper in Van Cleave at Indian Point campground, never found it, never claimed it. We lost nothing compared to the residents and businesses there. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:21:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe smell was part of the experience as well. YES! The rotting refrigerators, the shipping containers full of rotting chicken and shrimp that were scattered all over, and dead animals. Crazy how quick you got use to it...until someone on a search team knocked over a deep freezer! Yack! |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:25:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jesus Christ, so everyone else pays so a few can enjoy living on the coast. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I regularly stay at the Courtyard Marriot down there. They are still running a loop on the lobby TV showing the surge. And the car in the lobby. Plenty of lots still empty on 90. Insurance must be ridiculous. Half Shell oyster house ftmfw. no. IIRC the us gov subsidizes hurricane / flood insurance and its actually pretty cheap. its pretty much the ONLY way most of the people who live in the coasts, can afford to have insurance. if it didnt exhist... most of those houses would have never been built in the first place, and they could not have been financed, as the owners could never afford insurance. Jesus Christ, so everyone else pays so a few can enjoy living on the coast. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:25:20 PM EDT
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http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/banking/starting-april-1-homeowners-to-see-subsidized-flood-insurance-phased-out/2223297 "My insurance is more than my mortgage," Loft-Powers said in a phone interview from her year-round home in Deerfield Beach, near Fort Lauderdale. "I live by the beach in an old neighborhood. I pay (too much) insurance for a … house that's not great."
On Wednesday — April Fool's Day — a congressional act that revised federal insurance premiums goes into effect, and coastal homeowners such as Loft-Powers say the joke will be on them. The government is slowly phasing out subsidized flood insurance for more than a million Americans with houses in flood zones who, in some cases, pay half the true commercial rate. Some owners say they are angry because their houses near lakes, rivers, bays and oceans were much more affordable with cheap rates that will now increase by as much as 25 percent each year until the premiums equal the full risk of settling down on property mapped as a flood zone. . Uninformed buyers often buy 'affordable' homes near us - only to end up paying a higher monthly payment than we do (for a much nicer newer home 3x to 4x the value of their 'affordable' home). I wouldn't consider buying anything built prior to the latest building codes in Florida. In fact, several of the homes in my neighborhood are being torn down only to be rebuilt to modern code. I think that's a good thing. I'm glad they've pulled back a lot of the subsidies. Living on the coast SHOULD be expensive. And for the record - I pay commercial rates for all four of my insurance policies (and that doesn't count boat, car or business insurance). |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:29:57 PM EDT
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Something I've always wondered, and feel free to tell me to shut up. Are you guys contracted out by FEMA or is this a volunteer thing? I just wonder if the rescue dog thing is a full time gig or something you do on the side. Volunteers that meet national guidelines regarding performance, etc... On a national resource list. We don't just "show up", we have to be activated through proper channels via official request and we are granted a "mission number" which provides us with Worker's Comp and other protections in the event we are inured, etc... So, in a nutshell - we do it for free with some benefits (our training and classes are free), we take vacation time from our "real jobs" when we are called out to make up for lost income. At the WTC 
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:36:29 PM EDT
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Volunteers that meet national guidelines regarding performance, etc... On a national resource list. We don't just "show up", we have to be activated through proper channels via official request and we are granted a "mission number" which provides us with Worker's Comp and other protections in the event we are inured, etc... So, in a nutshell - we do it for free with some benefits (our training and classes are free), we take vacation time from our "real jobs" when we are called out to make up for lost income. At the WTC http://www.fototime.com/25616D854548089/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/A413CA602F4B6E3/medium800.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something I've always wondered, and feel free to tell me to shut up. Are you guys contracted out by FEMA or is this a volunteer thing? I just wonder if the rescue dog thing is a full time gig or something you do on the side. Volunteers that meet national guidelines regarding performance, etc... On a national resource list. We don't just "show up", we have to be activated through proper channels via official request and we are granted a "mission number" which provides us with Worker's Comp and other protections in the event we are inured, etc... So, in a nutshell - we do it for free with some benefits (our training and classes are free), we take vacation time from our "real jobs" when we are called out to make up for lost income. At the WTC http://www.fototime.com/25616D854548089/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/A413CA602F4B6E3/medium800.jpg So like Division agents?
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:37:28 PM EDT
[#41]
This photo was taken in March of 2006 in Chalmette, LA, seven months after Katrina. This street is 2 blocks from where my in-laws lived at the time.
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:48:28 PM EDT
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I, along with three others from my department, spent about a week in the Waveband/Bay St. Louis area starting a few days after Katrina hit. I will never forget the sights, sounds and smells from that area. The destruction, the sense of family, the sadness. I have some pictures somewhere. The state of Florida contributed so much to that area. The canteen trailer, shower trailer and the personnel.
There was a rather large sail boat that was out of the water and in a wooded area near the bay. The trees were not touched and it looked as is some one had just dropped the sail boat out of the sky with no damage to any of the trees around it. The train tracks near the bay were all twisted and the bedding was washed away. The high water mark in the Walmart could be sienna the interior walls. I was amazed at how high it was inside of the building. These are just a few of the things I can remember from that time. I had a conversation with one of the residents, an man probably in his late 50's, who was at the supply area in Bay St. Louis. Hearing his first hand account of what happened and how he just did not know what to do at that point was just about heartbreaking. A funny moment was when a guy found his AK and ripped off a few rounds to see if it would still function. The AFT and the local PD guys there were not to happy about it. I also stopped some ICE guys, if I remember correctly, for driving around during the curfew hours. The only part that sucked for me was I worked the night and had to sleep during the day. It was to damn hot for this norther guy. That and the damn helicopters taking off from the Walmart parking lot about 100 feet from where I was trying to sleep. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:54:47 PM EDT
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while you are right, you need to understand that it is a bit of a culture thing. At least in south MS, the older generations always "tough" it out. Just how it is. people who lived right on the beach would go stay with family/friends further inland. These people are not FSA and started cleaning up/rebuilding the day after. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm going to be that guy. You were told to get the fuck out and yet you didn't. My uncle was in it thinking he'd ride it out like other hurricanes. Dumbass. while you are right, you need to understand that it is a bit of a culture thing. At least in south MS, the older generations always "tough" it out. Just how it is. people who lived right on the beach would go stay with family/friends further inland. These people are not FSA and started cleaning up/rebuilding the day after. The older generations have better sense than to get a room at a Holiday Inn Express seaside and take shoot video of the 30 foot waves destroying the motel you're staying in. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 5:01:39 PM EDT
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Can someone post a link to the video in OP? Please 
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Posted: 4/5/2016 5:05:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I, along with three others from my department, spent about a week in the Waveband/Bay St. Louis area starting a few days after Katrina hit. I will never forget the sights, sounds and smells from that area. The destruction, the sense of family, the sadness. I have some pictures somewhere. The state of Florida contributed so much to that area. The canteen trailer, shower trailer and the personnel. There was a rather large sail boat that was out of the water and in a wooded area near the bay. The trees were not touched and it looked as is some one had just dropped the sail boat out of the sky with no damage to any of the trees around it. The train tracks near the bay were all twisted and the bedding was washed away. The high water mark in the Walmart could be sienna the interior walls. I was amazed at how high it was inside of the building. These are just a few of the things I can remember from that time. I had a conversation with one of the residents, an man probably in his late 50's, who was at the supply area in Bay St. Louis. Hearing his first hand account of what happened and how he just did not know what to do at that point was just about heartbreaking. A funny moment was when a guy found his AK and ripped off a few rounds to see if it would still function. The AFT and the local PD guys there were not to happy about it. I also stopped some ICE guys, if I remember correctly, for driving around during the curfew hours. The only part that sucked for me was I worked the night and had to sleep during the day. It was to damn hot for this norther guy. That and the damn helicopters taking off from the Walmart parking lot about 100 feet from where I was trying to sleep. You probably saw my brother, before they were moved from the parking lot to the ball field. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 5:07:32 PM EDT
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grew up there. Wasn't on coast for landfall but the aftermath was unbelievable and it's hard to imagine the water that high. Pisses me off that while the coast was leveled in places it got basically ignored due to the FSA trash in New Orleans. My wife's family is from the MS Gulf Coast. It still pisses all of them off when people talk about how bad Katrina devastated New Orleans and I cannot blame them. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 5:08:31 PM EDT
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I expected a Day After Tomorrow type wave.
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Posted: 4/5/2016 5:18:15 PM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1321874_Airborne_Engineers_during_Hurricane_Katrina____My_story_.html
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Posted: 4/5/2016 5:27:26 PM EDT
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anyone tried to visit the abandoned SIX FLAGS?
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Posted: 4/5/2016 5:29:23 PM EDT
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