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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:23:47 PM EST
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Don't worry Old Chap! They can't ban us all! 
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:23:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Slippery slope much? It seems that the most disruption on the forum is coming from those in charge. the play ground is closed. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:24:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many pictures of bloodied and maimed civilians that are the victims of terrorist attacks across the world have been posted here over the years? Your actions benefit no one but the people in charge that want to pretend that there is no problem with this mass immigration from Muslim countries. Sadiq Kahn thanks you.  um..ooooookay.
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:24:36 PM EST
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that was done because the thread was locked because it was derailed..more were started which served no purpose then to stir the pot or troll. Hopefully this one won't be..but that depends on people participating. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:25:11 PM EST
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Summer hiatus.? Little more vibration. Bad alignment
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:25:46 PM EST
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that was done because the thread was locked because it was derailed..more were started which served no purpose then to stir the pot or troll. Hopefully this one won't be..but that depends on people participating. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I get removing the pictures as a matter of respect to the family. What I do not get it the locking of threads that do not have the pictures in them. The constant locking of threads will only make the drama increase here. Hopefully this one won't be..but that depends on people participating. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:25:56 PM EST
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that was done because the thread was locked because it was derailed..more were started which served no purpose then to stir the pot or troll. Hopefully this one won't be..but that depends on people participating. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:26:02 PM EST
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Foreign government asks you to censor something and you tell them to fuck off? You'd be a hero on the site. Edit: who the fuck cares about a foreign policy agency with no authority over this site or it's users? |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:26:09 PM EST
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How many pictures of bloodied and maimed civilians that are the victims of terrorist attacks across the world have been posted here over the years? Your actions benefit no one but the people in charge that want to pretend that there is no problem with this mass immigration from Muslim countries. Sadiq Kahn thanks you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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and that is relevant why? we have members of the Metropolitan Police Dept here FYI. I am baffled by the reaction of some folks here to a simple request to edit out some pics.. anyway. It's done, an explanation was given. some people don't want to accept it..no problem. don't agree with it..no problem the problem arises when they intentionally disrupt the forum because of it.. we are fixing that problem. Your actions benefit no one but the people in charge that want to pretend that there is no problem with this mass immigration from Muslim countries. Sadiq Kahn thanks you. Will we have to think twice about posting pictures from terror attacks/ mass shooting/ plane crashes/ etc because we might get a time-out due to not respecting the privacy of those involved in these accidents? How are we suppose to know what pictures are acceptable and which are not? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I just want clarification. I'm trying to follow the COC of this forum which after these events has become confusing. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:26:29 PM EST
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um..ooooookay.Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: How many pictures of bloodied and maimed civilians that are the victims of terrorist attacks across the world have been posted here over the years? Your actions benefit no one but the people in charge that want to pretend that there is no problem with this mass immigration from Muslim countries. Sadiq Kahn thanks you. um..ooooookay. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:26:50 PM EST
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um..ooooookay. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:27:22 PM EST
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so everyone would have been perfectly happy if I had replied with fuck you..the members of the site are against showing a police agency and a wounded officers family some respect? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ive been here for a pretty uneventful 13yrs. The fact remains that a lot of people who dont normally rile the mods seem to be pretty unimpressed with the explanation. I believe that even if the mod personally didnt agree with the op keeping the photos up it should have remained the ops choice since it didnt violate COC. The general response of "Ar15.com is a private site and we can make these decisions" may be true but that doesnt look good in the least. Especially since this can literally be applied to anything.....which is the arfcom mods right. Question is are we ok with it? I guess we have to be or we are trolls....right? A reply could have been “we are a very pro LE site with the majority of pro LE members. The pictures were not posted depicting the officer in a derogatory way and we do not restrict photos of incidents on our site.” |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:27:48 PM EST
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so everyone would have been perfectly happy if I had replied with fuck you..the members of the site are against showing a police agency and a wounded officers family some respect? |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:28:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Months? Last Post Date 4/7/2015 10:11:57 AM EDT ^^^ Beat that. Reported. 
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:28:31 PM EST
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Why do you assume I wanted to be rude or mean to them at all about this? There is a polite way to handle that interaction that states that the photos are up to the op who posted it to remove. These were public photos taken in the street of a news event. You could have passed the message on to him being the author and he would have decided to do it (hopefully without added pressure from staff OR a foreign entity). There was no need for mods to act at all in this situation other than passing along a REQUEST (not a demand). For reference to what is going on the photos have been scrubbed off of google and every other domain (please check). This is the main concern. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ive been here for a pretty uneventful 13yrs. The fact remains that a lot of people who dont normally rile the mods seem to be pretty unimpressed with the explanation. I believe that even if the mod personally didnt agree with the op keeping the photos up it should have remained the ops choice since it didnt violate COC. The general response of "Ar15.com is a private site and we can make these decisions" may be true but that doesnt look good in the least. Especially since this can literally be applied to anything.....which is the arfcom mods right. Question is are we ok with it? I guess we have to be or we are trolls....right? |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:28:44 PM EST
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um..ooooookay.a.) The families are disturbed by bloody pictures of their injured family member and ask the Met Police to see if they can get them removed. b.) The leadership of the Met Police and the City of London are embarrassed by the fact that significant parts of London are turning in to third world hellholes and they now have a real problem with Islamic terrorism on an ongoing basis. Let me help you out. The answer is b.) |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:29:04 PM EST
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and that is relevant why? we have members of the Metropolitan Police Dept here FYI. I am baffled by the reaction of some folks here to a simple request to edit out some pics.. anyway. It's done, an explanation was given. some people don't want to accept it..no problem. don't agree with it..no problem the problem arises when they intentionally disrupt the forum because of it.. we are fixing that problem. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:29:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you assume I wanted to be rude or mean to them at all about this? There is a polite way to handle that interaction that states that the photos are up to the op who posted it to remove. These were public photos taken in the street of a news event. You could have passed the message on to him being the author and he would have decided to do it (hopefully without added pressure from staff OR a foreign entity). There was no need for mods to act at all in this situation other than passing along a REQUEST (not a demand). For reference to what is going on the photos have been scrubbed off of google and every other domain (please check). This is the main concern. I can't imagine living their lives if they get this bent out of shape over an edit in a thread on a gun forum on the internet.. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:30:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this going to be a no-go from now on? Yes I'm being serious, if it is then the COC needs to be updated to reflect it. Will we have to think twice about posting pictures from terror attacks/ mass shooting/ plane crashes/ etc because we might get a time-out due to not respecting the privacy of those involved in these accidents? How are we suppose to know what pictures are acceptable and which are not? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I just want clarification. I'm trying to follow the COC of this forum which after these events has become confusing. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:30:39 PM EST
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Which do you think is more likely: a.) The families are disturbed by bloody pictures of their injured family member and ask the Met Police to see if they can get them removed. b.) The leadership of the Met Police and the City of London are embarrassed by the fact that significant parts of London are turning in to third world hellholes and they now have a real problem with Islamic terrorism on an ongoing basis. Let me help you out. The answer is b.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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um..ooooookay.a.) The families are disturbed by bloody pictures of their injured family member and ask the Met Police to see if they can get them removed. b.) The leadership of the Met Police and the City of London are embarrassed by the fact that significant parts of London are turning in to third world hellholes and they now have a real problem with Islamic terrorism on an ongoing basis. Let me help you out. The answer is b.) |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:31:13 PM EST
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locking multiple threads and nuking others is heavy handed and makes you and the site look bad. If you can't understand that then so be it. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:31:30 PM EST
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A reply could have been “we are a very pro LE site with the majority of pro LE members. The pictures were not posted depicting the officer in a derogatory way and we do not restrict photos of incidents on our site.” 
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:31:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this going to be a no-go from now on? Yes I'm being serious, if it is then the COC needs to be updated to reflect it. Will we have to think twice about posting pictures from terror attacks/ mass shooting/ plane crashes/ etc because we might get a time-out due to not respecting the privacy of those involved in these accidents? How are we suppose to know what pictures are acceptable and which are not? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I just want clarification. I'm trying to follow the COC of this forum which after these events has become confusing. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:32:10 PM EST
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No..those in charge are dealing with the problem children..and apparently they don't like it. the play ground is closed. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:32:18 PM EST
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Commonwealth citizens be locking shit yo! 
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:32:34 PM EST
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This thread is headed that way and so we the next one. Next comes account locks and timeouts. Then threads on the account locks and timeouts will be locked. Meanwhile everyone just gets more angry. the playground is closed.. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:32:57 PM EST
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Did I miss something?? UK?? |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:33:01 PM EST
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If I had done that (PM'd him)..the end result would have been the same. Some members here feel the need to stir up problems..(not referring to you) and as soon as it got out that I asked him to edit them out..we would be where we are now. I can't imagine living their lives if they get this bent out of shape over an edit in a thread on a gun forum on the internet.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Why do you assume I wanted to be rude or mean to them at all about this? There is a polite way to handle that interaction that states that the photos are up to the op who posted it to remove. These were public photos taken in the street of a news event. You could have passed the message on to him being the author and he would have decided to do it (hopefully without added pressure from staff OR a foreign entity). There was no need for mods to act at all in this situation other than passing along a REQUEST (not a demand). For reference to what is going on the photos have been scrubbed off of google and every other domain (please check). This is the main concern. I can't imagine living their lives if they get this bent out of shape over an edit in a thread on a gun forum on the internet.. You are a committed mod on a gun forum. This is a big part of your everyday life. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:33:32 PM EST
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A lot of us fully expect it. Censoring/locking threads is much easier than addressing the problem. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:34:02 PM EST
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When we first found out that Brownells was buying the site I said that I expected that the site would start shedding paying members within a year. I still think that's true. Of course it's based on my personal experiences with corporate take overs, which have all be negative. So, grain of salt and all that.
My own membership comes due next month, and unless someone can convince me why I should give Brownells that money, specially now that we've seen that the Mayor of London and his anti free speech enforcement arm seems to have leverage here, I probably won't be renewing. Funny isn't it, that the NRA and the largest firearm and pro 2A message board on the internet both seem to be hemorrhaging membership at the same time? I find it a curious coincidence. But since I don't believe in conspiracy theories, I'll just go with coincidence. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:34:24 PM EST
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If I had done that (PM'd him)..the end result would have been the same. Some members here feel the need to stir up problems..(not referring to you) and as soon as it got out that I asked him to edit them out..we would be where we are now. I can't imagine living their lives if they get this bent out of shape over an edit in a thread on a gun forum on the internet.. It sets the precedent that truth can be censored here with a simple request by a foreign entity. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:34:24 PM EST
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Double Tap
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:34:41 PM EST
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That's actually pretty good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A reply could have been “we are a very pro LE site with the majority of pro LE members. The pictures were not posted depicting the officer in a derogatory way and we do not restrict photos of incidents on our site.” |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:35:17 PM EST
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In this thread people express their opinions about the action. That is stirring the pot?
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:35:23 PM EST
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FWIW, looks like the video is still up on the BBC.
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:35:40 PM EST
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Google has been scrubbed of these pictures as well. There are parties far more interested in scrubbing these pictures than the family. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:35:42 PM EST
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So why was it locked one posts after Staff said it wouldn't be locked? Why were the other threads nuked? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No..we are tired of the childish antics by supposed "adults" who apparently don't understand the meaning of the word respect. People that continue to post threads about my edit to keep stirring the pot might want to cool their jets.. It is one thing to disagree with something. It is an entirely different animal to throw out insults, make wild ass accusations about something you don't know (or ignore) the whole story on. The trolls and habitual shit disturbers are gong to be in for a rough time because their play ground is closed now. I'm not gong to get into a prolonged discussion about this either. I stated the reason I edited. to the best of my knowledge Edsr and I are the only 2 to receive the e-mail..so I'm not sure how some folks here seem to know the contents of it. I edited the pics out of respect for their request..and the family..period. end of story.. I would do and have done the exact same thing for members of this site. Why were the other threads nuked? |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:36:05 PM EST
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So the family asked the police department to ask ar15.com to remove the pictures? Or this was prompted by the police department without the officers family knowing ar15.com even exists? Or the police department is going around to every website and asking that the pictures be removed? Im confused.
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:36:26 PM EST
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My buddy was eaten by a penguin. Out of common respect and decency please edit and remove all pictures of penguins off this site.
I'm tired of the childish antics by supposed "adults" who apparently don't understand the meaning of the word respect. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:36:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this going to be a no-go from now on? Yes I'm being serious, if it is then the COC needs to be updated to reflect it. Will we have to think twice about posting pictures from terror attacks/ mass shooting/ plane crashes/ etc because we might get a time-out due to not respecting the privacy of those involved in these accidents? How are we suppose to know what pictures are acceptable and which are not? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I just want clarification. I'm trying to follow the COC of this forum which after these events has become confusing. The only hard and fat rule we've ever had here was that no pictures of wounded or dead American soldiers be posted..and that a *graphic* warning be put in the thread title. So no..you have nothing to worry about. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:36:56 PM EST
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Thats very respectful and as an officer thats been injured before (and had a picture of me leaning against a patrol car with a bleeding leg) its never crossed my mind to tell people to remove a public image. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A reply could have been “we are a very pro LE site with the majority of pro LE members. The pictures were not posted depicting the officer in a derogatory way and we do not restrict photos of incidents on our site.” 
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:37:40 PM EST
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Which do you think is more likely: a.) The families are disturbed by bloody pictures of their injured family member and ask the Met Police to see if they can get them removed. b.) The leadership of the Met Police and the City of London are embarrassed by the fact that significant parts of London are turning in to third world hellholes and they now have a real problem with Islamic terrorism on an ongoing basis and yet still refuse to arm the majority of their police force so that what happened to the officer whose pictures were removed is less likely to happen again. Let me help you out. The answer is b.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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um..ooooookay.a.) The families are disturbed by bloody pictures of their injured family member and ask the Met Police to see if they can get them removed. b.) The leadership of the Met Police and the City of London are embarrassed by the fact that significant parts of London are turning in to third world hellholes and they now have a real problem with Islamic terrorism on an ongoing basis and yet still refuse to arm the majority of their police force so that what happened to the officer whose pictures were removed is less likely to happen again. Let me help you out. The answer is b.) |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:38:00 PM EST
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:38:22 PM EST
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so everyone would have been perfectly happy if I had replied with fuck you..the members of the site are against showing a police agency and a wounded officers family some respect? That doesn't fly sir. I have no respect at all for the UK police state and their agendas. I have no respect for people who order their men against armed violent immigrants without proper arms. I have no respect for those that blindly follow orders . Everything in that picture is exactly what the left wants. 2020 is the biggest election in our lives. That photo is an eye opener on immigration and 2A. And now 1A. The picture should be posted everywhere. If a man and his family don't want to be on camera, London is the last place I'd want to be. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:38:26 PM EST
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This was the first time I can remember that we were contacted by someone (third party) and asked to edit out pics. It was done out of respect..period. No hidden agenda Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Is this going to be a no-go from now on? Yes I'm being serious, if it is then the COC needs to be updated to reflect it. Will we have to think twice about posting pictures from terror attacks/ mass shooting/ plane crashes/ etc because we might get a time-out due to not respecting the privacy of those involved in these accidents? How are we suppose to know what pictures are acceptable and which are not? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I just want clarification. I'm trying to follow the COC of this forum which after these events has become confusing.
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:38:29 PM EST
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then the members that are stirring the pot need to stop.. the playground is closed.. 
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:38:30 PM EST
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Valid question. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Is this going to be a no-go from now on? Yes I'm being serious, if it is then the COC needs to be updated to reflect it. Will we have to think twice about posting pictures from terror attacks/ mass shooting/ plane crashes/ etc because we might get a time-out due to not respecting the privacy of those involved in these accidents? How are we suppose to know what pictures are acceptable and which are not? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I just want clarification. I'm trying to follow the COC of this forum which after these events has become confusing. "first... ar15.com is a private site. Content is moderated per the rules of the forum and may be restricted as needed to maintain the forum. This was a courtesy edit and nothing more. things like that are taken on a situation basis." |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:38:45 PM EST
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In this thread people express their opinions about the action. That is stirring the pot? |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:38:59 PM EST
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I would have blurred out the guys face a little out of respect and told the British this is the best they get. That would have been a respectful action.
I get both sides but ever since our forefathers kicked their asses, they have no sway here. Now the thread is gone and their quest of erasing the event is one step closer to complete. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 12:39:25 PM EST
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I can't believe that anyone wouldn't have a healthy dose of skepticism that these requests were prompted by the family. There are parties far more interested in scrubbing these pictures than the family. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Google has been scrubbed of these pictures as well. There are parties far more interested in scrubbing these pictures than the family. |
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