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Link Posted: 8/12/2019 2:49:48 PM EDT
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What am I missing here? Doesn’t your first sentence contradict your second sentence? Why not delete this request, just like you said you would if it had happened prior to this first request?
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I hope you answer honestly (Im not being a jerk here...just take a deep breath and try to be). Do you believe that the UK police have a historical issue with censoring public information? Yes or no? Did you not see this request as suspicious as it was passed through the chain at a UK PD to you? Do you believe you could have politely refused that request without insulting the family or officer? (I believe you could have easily)
If we had received requests from them before or every time something like this happened in Britain I would have deleted the e-mail without responding.
However this is the first time they have ever contacted us with a request..and there have been a metric ton of assaults on police and soldiers in england.
so like I mentioned..I took their request at face value because I had no reason not to.
What am I missing here? Doesn’t your first sentence contradict your second sentence? Why not delete this request, just like you said you would if it had happened prior to this first request?
From the sounds of it it was the first time such a request has ever been made.
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And the can was promptly picked-up.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 2:52:43 PM EDT
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Got an account warning for "trolling" for starting a thread related to the subject.  Didn't even cuss, or post nude photos, or gore (last  two never happen).  Simply tried to make a valid point, in a humorous way...... no animosity at all.  Site staff was not entertained.

If I get get banned for posting this, at least site sponsors will know why they don't get my eyes anymore.  Maybe I'll forget they exist and quit shopping there.  Would be a shame as there are a lot of vendors here that are great, and that I support.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 2:56:15 PM EDT
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Show you stick up for the members.  Do it this time.

You can delete pictures and you can put them back.

So blur the face and post the picture.

The ball is headed toward the plate.  You have a chance to salvage a base hit or whiff it.
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I would have blurred out the guys face a little out of respect and told the British this is the best they get. That would have been a respectful action.

I get both sides but ever since our forefathers kicked their asses, they have no sway here.

Now the thread is gone and their quest of erasing the event is one step closer to complete.
great suggestion..filed away for the next time if it happens.
Show you stick up for the members.  Do it this time.

You can delete pictures and you can put them back.

So blur the face and post the picture.

The ball is headed toward the plate.  You have a chance to salvage a base hit or whiff it.
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@samiam513

It isn't too late to edit them and throw the thread back up. We can move on.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 2:59:20 PM EDT
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It isn't too late to edit them and throw the thread back up. We can move on.
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I would have blurred out the guys face a little out of respect and told the British this is the best they get. That would have been a respectful action.

I get both sides but ever since our forefathers kicked their asses, they have no sway here.

Now the thread is gone and their quest of erasing the event is one step closer to complete.
great suggestion..filed away for the next time if it happens.
Show you stick up for the members.  Do it this time.

You can delete pictures and you can put them back.

So blur the face and post the picture.

The ball is headed toward the plate.  You have a chance to salvage a base hit or whiff it.
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@samiam513

It isn't too late to edit them and throw the thread back up. We can move on.
LOL

Keep dreaming.  In their view, they did nothing wrong.  The upset membership are the bad guys in this instance.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 2:59:43 PM EDT
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From the sounds of it it was the first time such a request has ever been made.
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I get that, but he said if a similar request had been made prior to this, it would have been deleted. So then that would have been the first request.  But this was the first request, so, by that explanation, it should have been deleted.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:02:35 PM EDT
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Keep dreaming.  In their view, they did nothing wrong.  The upset membership are the bad guys in this EVERY instance.
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I would have blurred out the guys face a little out of respect and told the British this is the best they get. That would have been a respectful action.

I get both sides but ever since our forefathers kicked their asses, they have no sway here.

Now the thread is gone and their quest of erasing the event is one step closer to complete.
great suggestion..filed away for the next time if it happens.
Show you stick up for the members.  Do it this time.

You can delete pictures and you can put them back.

So blur the face and post the picture.

The ball is headed toward the plate.  You have a chance to salvage a base hit or whiff it.
@striker
@samiam513

It isn't too late to edit them and throw the thread back up. We can move on.
LOL

Keep dreaming.  In their view, they did nothing wrong.  The upset membership are the bad guys in this EVERY instance.
The sooner you recognize this, (My edit in red above) the less shocking it will be.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:02:41 PM EDT
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Got an account warning for "trolling" for starting a thread related to the subject.  Didn't even cuss, or post nude photos, or gore (last  two never happen).  Simply tried to make a valid point, in a humorous way...... no animosity at all.  Site staff was not entertained.

If I get get banned for posting this, at least site sponsors will know why they don't get my eyes anymore.  Maybe I'll forget they exist and quit shopping there.  Would be a shame as there are a lot of vendors here that are great, and that I support.
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His name was stevelish
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:04:54 PM EDT
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This forum is going down the shitter so quick its unbelievable. The past months have been attack after attack on the membership.

Its come down to site staff vs the members now, and anyone who doesnt follow the line is a "trouble maker".

So sad. Almost as if the left pervaded this site and its all according to plan...
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Got an account warning for "trolling" for starting a thread related to the subject.  Didn't even cuss, or post nude photos, or gore (last  two never happen).  Simply tried to make a valid point, in a humorous way...... no animosity at all.  Site staff was not entertained.

If I get get banned for posting this, at least site sponsors will know why they don't get my eyes anymore.  Maybe I'll forget they exist and quit shopping there.  Would be a shame as there are a lot of vendors here that are great, and that I support.
His name was stevelish
A massive amount of warnings & bans would explain why this thread suddenly went quiet
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:19:43 PM EDT
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LOL

Captain Phillips

Put Bobby hat on the pirate
Look at me, I'm site staff now

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Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:40:55 PM EDT
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Still here.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:42:40 PM EDT
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Count me as another member in good standing (not a troll) who vehemently disagrees with the censorship of that thread and the increasingly heavy handed moderation. Please don't ruin one of the last good places left on the internet.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:46:44 PM EDT
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In business if 1 or 2 customers have an issue I look into it when I get a chance.

If dozens have the same issue it requires immediate attention. Dozens of people with the same issue are rarely wrong.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:47:51 PM EDT
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While I get your point, I don’t think memes like this are helpful.  It seems to support the “only shitposters are angry” line of defense, which isn’t the case at all.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:48:41 PM EDT
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This forum is going down the shitter so quick its unbelievable. The past months have been attack after attack on the membership.

Its come down to site staff vs the members now, and anyone who doesnt follow the line is a "trouble maker".

So sad. Almost as if the left pervaded this site and its all according to plan...
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It is almost like some folks would like to divide us and pit us against each other.
Almost.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:49:02 PM EDT
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For
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Keep dreaming.  In their view, they did nothing wrong the right thing.  The upset membership are the bad guys in this instance.
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I would have blurred out the guys face a little out of respect and told the British this is the best they get. That would have been a respectful action.

I get both sides but ever since our forefathers kicked their asses, they have no sway here.

Now the thread is gone and their quest of erasing the event is one step closer to complete.
great suggestion..filed away for the next time if it happens.
Show you stick up for the members.  Do it this time.

You can delete pictures and you can put them back.

So blur the face and post the picture.

The ball is headed toward the plate.  You have a chance to salvage a base hit or whiff it.
@striker
@samiam513

It isn't too late to edit them and throw the thread back up. We can move on.
LOL

Keep dreaming.  In their view, they did nothing wrong the right thing.  The upset membership are the bad guys in this instance.
FIFY
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 3:58:46 PM EDT
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I'm not going to get all pissed off about the picture being removed.  The police released the statement from the family on the police website.

The family of PC Stuart Outten, the officer injured in Leyton, have released a media statement.

The family said: "We have been overwhelmed by the amount of support we have received from the public, Stuart’s colleagues and the wider policing family.

"We are incredibly proud of the bravery Stuart showed during the incident. His injuries could have been fatal and we are thankful that he is stable and recovering in hospital with his loved ones around him.

"Stuart joined the Met straight from school and loves being a police officer and protecting the public. Although there are risks associated with his job, we would never have expected something like this to happen.

"We are so grateful to the London Ambulance Service paramedics and hospital staff for their care and compassion.

"We have been made aware of images circulating that show Stuart’s injuries and him recovering in hospital.

"We would kindly ask the media and the public not to publish these images at what is already an extremely distressing time for us as a family. We would also ask the media to please respect our privacy at this difficult time
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http://news.met.police.uk/news/statement-from-family-of-pc-stuart-outten-377731

If a family anywhere asked for the same thing I could understand and go on with life without being too pissed off.
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Now it’s back.  Weiiiiiiiird.

Do you guys see American flag or the Bobby looking over the wall for my avatar?
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 4:26:32 PM EDT
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The family of PC Stuart Outten, the officer injured in Leyton, have released a media statement.

"We have been made aware of images circulating that show Stuart’s injuries and him recovering in hospital.

"We would kindly ask the media and the public not to publish these images at what is already an extremely distressing time for us as a family. We would also ask the media to please respect our privacy at this difficult time
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And now crickets for ~30 minutes after there has been 20+ pages of posts between all the threads combined?
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 4:27:29 PM EDT
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They'll just keep locking threads until they decide that's too much trouble, then they'll just start banning dissidents like good little commies.

I've stuck up for the mods here over the years, but this is bullshit. Fuck it, I'll watch it burn to the ground just like Rome.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 4:28:32 PM EDT
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In business if 1 or 2 customers have an issue I look into it when I get a chance.

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Rule does not apply to Socialism/Communism/vegan lifestyles/Californians/Democrat politicians or supporters/etc.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 4:33:49 PM EDT
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Slippery slope.

I can understand the family’s wishes but words and pictures that are tough to read or see are often what needs to be protected the most. There is no need to protect speech that everyone agrees with.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 4:34:05 PM EDT
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I wonder how many members have to openly disagree with a mod’s actions before the mod has a moment of introspection about said actions.

Whatever the number it is, it’s more than have posted in the last several threads, apparently.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 4:34:08 PM EDT
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From my understanding, it wasn't any government but a police department that made the request to remove the pictures of a fallen officer.  The topic is still able to to be discussed, but out of respect for the family of the officer, pics have been remove.  There is no grand conspiracy as much as y'all want there to be.  We have many law enforcement and military (active, retired, reserve) members, mods and staff as part of the ARFCOM family.  Many year ago after 9/11, EdSr who is a Vietnam veteran made a rule, no posting of wounded, fallen or injured military.  As an Army veteran, I concur with that.  1) these people have families as do I.  I wouldn't want my wife and daughter seeing my bloodied body in the news or online.  I wouldn't want your family to see yours.

I have lost friends that I served with, family members and friends that were LEO.  I KNOW the pain, heartbreak and mourning they go through.  They don't need a constant reminder of the incident just so you can satisfy your need for information.  The information is there and available should you want to take the time to look for it.  But as for me, the Avila's and the staff and mods of this site, we will respect the wishes and request of this fallen officers command, friends, comrades and family.

If you see a vast conspiracy in that and feel it violates your rights and freedom of speech, well, perhaps that say more about you and your integrity than it does about ours.
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Count me as another member in good standing who vehemently disagrees with the censorship of that thread and the increasingly heavy handed moderation. Please don't ruin one of the last good places left on the internet.
From my understanding, it wasn't any government but a police department that made the request to remove the pictures of a fallen officer.  The topic is still able to to be discussed, but out of respect for the family of the officer, pics have been remove.  There is no grand conspiracy as much as y'all want there to be.  We have many law enforcement and military (active, retired, reserve) members, mods and staff as part of the ARFCOM family.  Many year ago after 9/11, EdSr who is a Vietnam veteran made a rule, no posting of wounded, fallen or injured military.  As an Army veteran, I concur with that.  1) these people have families as do I.  I wouldn't want my wife and daughter seeing my bloodied body in the news or online.  I wouldn't want your family to see yours.

I have lost friends that I served with, family members and friends that were LEO.  I KNOW the pain, heartbreak and mourning they go through.  They don't need a constant reminder of the incident just so you can satisfy your need for information.  The information is there and available should you want to take the time to look for it.  But as for me, the Avila's and the staff and mods of this site, we will respect the wishes and request of this fallen officers command, friends, comrades and family.

If you see a vast conspiracy in that and feel it violates your rights and freedom of speech, well, perhaps that say more about you and your integrity than it does about ours.
The police are not government.  That's new!

Can you enlighten the investors on the rules regarding police asking for pictures to be removed from private posts?

Steps you take to ensure the email is not a spoofed address?

Steps you take to ensure private speech is not silenced?

Steps taken to ensure that the content of the poster's speech is not being silenced for the benefit of the government that the police serve?

Can we we get some clarity?  Is that too much to ask for?
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 4:34:48 PM EDT
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I made that comment because this went from GD mad at me for editing out some pics to a muslim invasion..
I stand by my decision and as you can see from floridacops post..the request was on behalf of the officers family.
If you folks are pissy because you think your ability to look at graphic pics is more important then helping a family get past a terrible violent incident..I don't know what to tell you.
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I'm confused as to how a picture posted on Arfcom has any effect on the family or their healing. The pics and video are out there, you can't stop the signal. If you all had let that thread go, it would have been dead and on page 5 by now. Instead welcome to the thunder dome.
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Parliament, the Queen, the royal family or an official from MI6 did not make the request.  It was the local police department on behalf of the family of a fallen officer.  Why is that so hard to comprehend?   Is your life so mundane that you must look at everything through the tainted glasses of a grand conspiracy?

Let it go.  Seriously.
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Count me as another member in good standing who vehemently disagrees with the censorship of that thread and the increasingly heavy handed moderation. Please don't ruin one of the last good places left on the internet.
From my understanding, it wasn't any government but a police department that made the request to remove the pictures of a fallen officer.  The topic is still able to to be discussed, but out of respect for the family of the officer, pics have been remove.  There is no grand conspiracy as much as y'all want there to be.  We have many law enforcement and military (active, retired, reserve) members, mods and staff as part of the ARFCOM family.  Many year ago after 9/11, EdSr who is a Vietnam veteran made a rule, no posting of wounded, fallen or injured military.  As an Army veteran, I concur with that.  1) these people have families as do I.  I wouldn't want my wife and daughter seeing my bloodied body in the news or online.  I wouldn't want your family to see yours.

I have lost friends that I served with, family members and friends that were LEO.  I KNOW the pain, heartbreak and mourning they go through.  They don't need a constant reminder of the incident just so you can satisfy your need for information.  The information is there and available should you want to take the time to look for it.  But as for me, the Avila's and the staff and mods of this site, we will respect the wishes and request of this fallen officers command, friends, comrades and family.

If you see a vast conspiracy in that and feel it violates your rights and freedom of speech, well, perhaps that say more about you and your integrity than it does about ours.
The police are not government.  That's new!
Parliament, the Queen, the royal family or an official from MI6 did not make the request.  It was the local police department on behalf of the family of a fallen officer.  Why is that so hard to comprehend?   Is your life so mundane that you must look at everything through the tainted glasses of a grand conspiracy?

Let it go.  Seriously.
Most happy peoples lives are extremely mundane :-)

When someone tells me dogs go quack, I remind them I'm not a dumbass.
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 4:41:48 PM EDT
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i cant decide if I'm madder about this or the crybaby getting the Vixen 7 thread taking down and trying to defend his actions instead of just being quite. The thread getting locked after TBS post kinda pushed this ahead a little but its very close. But then again i dont care about the brit pics, them vixen pics were fire though.
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From my understanding, it wasn’t any government but a police department that made the request to remove the pictures of a fallen officer.  The topic is still able to to be discussed, but out of respect for the family of the officer, pics have been remove.  There is no grand conspiracy as much as y’all want there to be.  We have many law enforcement and military (active, retired, reserve) members, mods and staff as part of the ARFCOM family.  Many year ago after 9/11, EdSr who is a Vietnam veteran made a rule, no posting of wounded, fallen or injured military.  As an Army veteran, I concur with that.  1) these people have families as do I.  I wouldn’t want my wife and daughter seeing my bloodied body in the news or online.  I wouldn’t want your family to see yours.

I have lost friends that I served with, family members and friends that were LEO.  I KNOW the pain, heartbreak and mourning they go through.  They don’t need a constant reminder of the incident just so you can satisfy your need for information.  The information is there and available should you want to take the time to look for it.  But as for me, the Avila’s and the staff and mods of this site, we will respect the wishes and request of this fallen officers command, friends, comrades and family.

If you see a vast conspiracy in that and feel it violates your rights and freedom of speech, well, perhaps that say more about you and your integrity than it does about ours.
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Count me as another member in good standing who vehemently disagrees with the censorship of that thread and the increasingly heavy handed moderation. Please don't ruin one of the last good places left on the internet.
From my understanding, it wasn’t any government but a police department that made the request to remove the pictures of a fallen officer.  The topic is still able to to be discussed, but out of respect for the family of the officer, pics have been remove.  There is no grand conspiracy as much as y’all want there to be.  We have many law enforcement and military (active, retired, reserve) members, mods and staff as part of the ARFCOM family.  Many year ago after 9/11, EdSr who is a Vietnam veteran made a rule, no posting of wounded, fallen or injured military.  As an Army veteran, I concur with that.  1) these people have families as do I.  I wouldn’t want my wife and daughter seeing my bloodied body in the news or online.  I wouldn’t want your family to see yours.

I have lost friends that I served with, family members and friends that were LEO.  I KNOW the pain, heartbreak and mourning they go through.  They don’t need a constant reminder of the incident just so you can satisfy your need for information.  The information is there and available should you want to take the time to look for it.  But as for me, the Avila’s and the staff and mods of this site, we will respect the wishes and request of this fallen officers command, friends, comrades and family.

If you see a vast conspiracy in that and feel it violates your rights and freedom of speech, well, perhaps that say more about you and your integrity than it does about ours.
So anyone who disagrees has no integrity?
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Parliament, the Queen, the royal family or an official from MI6 did not make the request.  It was the local police department on behalf of the family of a fallen officer.  Why is that so hard to comprehend?   Is your life so mundane that you must look at everything through the tainted glasses of a grand conspiracy?

Let it go.  Seriously.
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Count me as another member in good standing who vehemently disagrees with the censorship of that thread and the increasingly heavy handed moderation. Please don't ruin one of the last good places left on the internet.
From my understanding, it wasn't any government but a police department that made the request to remove the pictures of a fallen officer.  The topic is still able to to be discussed, but out of respect for the family of the officer, pics have been remove.  There is no grand conspiracy as much as y'all want there to be.  We have many law enforcement and military (active, retired, reserve) members, mods and staff as part of the ARFCOM family.  Many year ago after 9/11, EdSr who is a Vietnam veteran made a rule, no posting of wounded, fallen or injured military.  As an Army veteran, I concur with that.  1) these people have families as do I.  I wouldn't want my wife and daughter seeing my bloodied body in the news or online.  I wouldn't want your family to see yours.

I have lost friends that I served with, family members and friends that were LEO.  I KNOW the pain, heartbreak and mourning they go through.  They don't need a constant reminder of the incident just so you can satisfy your need for information.  The information is there and available should you want to take the time to look for it.  But as for me, the Avila's and the staff and mods of this site, we will respect the wishes and request of this fallen officers command, friends, comrades and family.

If you see a vast conspiracy in that and feel it violates your rights and freedom of speech, well, perhaps that say more about you and your integrity than it does about ours.
The police are not government.  That's new!
Parliament, the Queen, the royal family or an official from MI6 did not make the request.  It was the local police department on behalf of the family of a fallen officer.  Why is that so hard to comprehend?   Is your life so mundane that you must look at everything through the tainted glasses of a grand conspiracy?

Let it go.  Seriously.
When the local police come to take your guns, be comforted that the government wasn’t involved.
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I hope you answer honestly (Im not being a jerk here...just take a deep breath and try to be). Do you believe that the UK police have a historical issue with censoring public information? Yes or no? Did you not see this request as suspicious as it was passed through the chain at a UK PD to you? Do you believe you could have politely refused that request without insulting the family or officer? (I believe you could have easily)
If we had received requests from them before or every time something like this happened in Britain I would have deleted the e-mail without responding.
However this is the first time they have ever contacted us with a request..and there have been a metric ton of assaults on police and soldiers in england.
so like I mentioned..I took their request at face value because I had no reason not to.
What am I missing here? Doesn't your first sentence contradict your second sentence? Why not delete this request, just like you said you would if it had happened prior to this first request?
From the sounds of it it was the first time such a request has ever been made.
maybe if you say it they will listen.
You needed to say it without a Canadian accent
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Parliament, the Queen, the royal family or an official from MI6 did not make the request.  It was the local police department on behalf of the family of a fallen officer.  Why is that so hard to comprehend?   Is your life so mundane that you must look at everything through the tainted glasses of a grand conspiracy?

Let it go.  Seriously.
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Count me as another member in good standing who vehemently disagrees with the censorship of that thread and the increasingly heavy handed moderation. Please don't ruin one of the last good places left on the internet.
From my understanding, it wasn't any government but a police department that made the request to remove the pictures of a fallen officer.  The topic is still able to to be discussed, but out of respect for the family of the officer, pics have been remove.  There is no grand conspiracy as much as y'all want there to be.  We have many law enforcement and military (active, retired, reserve) members, mods and staff as part of the ARFCOM family.  Many year ago after 9/11, EdSr who is a Vietnam veteran made a rule, no posting of wounded, fallen or injured military.  As an Army veteran, I concur with that.  1) these people have families as do I.  I wouldn't want my wife and daughter seeing my bloodied body in the news or online.  I wouldn't want your family to see yours.

I have lost friends that I served with, family members and friends that were LEO.  I KNOW the pain, heartbreak and mourning they go through.  They don't need a constant reminder of the incident just so you can satisfy your need for information.  The information is there and available should you want to take the time to look for it.  But as for me, the Avila's and the staff and mods of this site, we will respect the wishes and request of this fallen officers command, friends, comrades and family.

If you see a vast conspiracy in that and feel it violates your rights and freedom of speech, well, perhaps that say more about you and your integrity than it does about ours.
The police are not government.  That's new!
Parliament, the Queen, the royal family or an official from MI6 did not make the request.  It was the local police department on behalf of the family of a fallen officer.  Why is that so hard to comprehend?   Is your life so mundane that you must look at everything through the tainted glasses of a grand conspiracy?

Let it go.  Seriously.
he is not dead
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he is not dead
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Not even mostly dead
Link Posted: 8/12/2019 4:49:36 PM EDT
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From my understanding, it wasn’t any government but a police department that made the request to remove the pictures of a fallen officer.  The topic is still able to to be discussed, but out of respect for the family of the officer, pics have been remove.  There is no grand conspiracy as much as y’all want there to be.  We have many law enforcement and military (active, retired, reserve) members, mods and staff as part of the ARFCOM family.  Many year ago after 9/11, EdSr who is a Vietnam veteran made a rule, no posting of wounded, fallen or injured military.  As an Army veteran, I concur with that.  1) these people have families as do I.  I wouldn’t want my wife and daughter seeing my bloodied body in the news or online.  I wouldn’t want your family to see yours.

I have lost friends that I served with, family members and friends that were LEO.  I KNOW the pain, heartbreak and mourning they go through.  They don’t need a constant reminder of the incident just so you can satisfy your need for information.  The information is there and available should you want to take the time to look for it.  But as for me, the Avila’s and the staff and mods of this site, we will respect the wishes and request of this fallen officers command, friends, comrades and family.

If you see a vast conspiracy in that and feel it violates your rights and freedom of speech, well, perhaps that say more about you and your integrity than it does about ours.
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Except they thread got locked after the pics were removed, and several others locked and nuked.
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Now it’s back.  Weiiiiiiiird.

Do you guys see American flag or the Bobby looking over the wall for my avatar?
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That is another thing that makes me go

The officer thankfully did not die. It just shows some lacerations on the head. Seems weird to make that type of statement that makes it sound like he died.
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I'm confused as to how a picture posted on Arfcom has any effect on the family or their healing. The pics and video are out there, you can't stop the signal. If you all had let that thread go, it would have been dead and on page 5 by now. Instead welcome to the thunder dome.
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Would you honestly want a picture of your loved one in a horrible situation posted here, on GD?
Seriously.
Doesn't matter whether or not they are here watching, they found out the picture was here and it bothered them.  As a courtesy, they took it down. They did not want him identified, for whatever reason.
I may be wrong, but I really don't think this is the end of ARF.  If it were to become a pattern, then yeah I would be upset and angry.  I just see this as ARF extending a courtesy to a family under some stress. I don't see it as a global cabal bent on neutering ARF and putting us back under dominion of the Crown.
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i cant decide if I'm madder about this or the crybaby getting the Vixen 7 thread taking down and trying to defend his actions instead of just being quite. The thread getting locked after TBS post kinda pushed this ahead a little but its very close. But then again i dont care about the brit pics, them vixen pics were fire though.
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Too bad on nixing the vixen
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Would you honestly want a picture of your loved one in a horrible situation posted here, on GD?
Seriously.
Doesn't matter whether or not they are here watching, they found out the picture was here and it bothered them.  As a courtesy, they took it down. They did not want him identified, for whatever reason.
I may be wrong, but I really don't think this is the end of ARF.  If it were to become a pattern, then yeah I would be upset and angry.  I just see this as ARF extending a courtesy to a family under some stress. I don't see it as a global cabal bent on neutering ARF and putting us back under dominion of the Crown.
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Fair enough. I look forward to this mindset being applied to all threads, pictures, videos, opinions, and information in the near future.
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That is another thing that makes me go

The officer thankfully did not die. It just shows some lacerations on the head. Seems weird to make that type of statement that makes it sound like he died.
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That is another thing that makes me go

The officer thankfully did not die. It just shows some lacerations on the head. Seems weird to make that type of statement that makes it sound like he died.
Not really. It helps to conjure white knight sympathy and also to further justify the reasons for editing and locking of the thread. Not that they need to justify it, obviously..

Meanwhile, the police there warned folks not to make fun of a guy's mugshot because his hair is fucky. You just can't make this shit up.

Honk, honk!
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