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Either defend or defund the tents. Can't have it both ways for chrissake!
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Karelian Bear Dogs is my solution. Along with assorted firearms.
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Quoted: Quoted: Black bears usually aren't dangerous. Grizzly's can be. View Quote If I HAD to be mauled by a bear, I would choose a Griz over a Black Bear. Griz will maul you, and once you are dead, usually leave you to soften up a bit in the heat. Black Bears like their meat fresh. Once you are dead, or feigning death, the eating begins. Rage attacks? Black Bear over Grizzly. |
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Quoted: https://sports.yahoo.com/two-campers-asleep-tent-injured-015935893.html Who goes on a remote kayak trip in Alaska without a gun???!!!! After getting attacked while sleeping in a tent, they had to pack up and kayak for 2 hours just to get to other campers, who still could only call for help with a satellite phone. All they had was bear "deterrents". View Quote For about 5-6days straight we had brown bears push against our tent at night. Rifles were always loaded and kept beside us. Bears are always around fish-camps. |
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I have spent hundreds of nights in a tent in the Alaska mountains. Many of them alone. I usually keep my 44 in my chest holster and my 458 at my side.
Have woken up to bears and moose outside many times. |
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What happens on a remote kayak trip in Alaska has little bearing on my camping trips in Michigan.
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Quoted: People have made that mistake, and payed the price..A far better idea is every bear can be dangerous until they arn't a danger to you... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Black bears aren't dangerous. Grizzly's can be. People have made that mistake, and payed the price..A far better idea is every bear can be dangerous until they arn't a danger to you... Any animal that's larger than you is potentially dangerous. But you usually have to do something stupid to get in trouble with them. I've had black bears brush up against the side of my tent, and come within a few feet of me many times. Black bears are generally docile unless you mess with their cubs. Just don't do that, and they won't bother you. |
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Basically where the bears aren't exposed to human behavior they are more dangerous/predataory. As long as you follow simple
guidelines and adhere to them you shouldn't have a problem. Not a good idea to take someone camping that's leaving a blood trail |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/185854/c035d992ffad42758edcf464fe7e702a_jpg-1978523.JPG View Quote That particular Larson doodle hung over my desk for ten years. Used it to gage people. If they laughed, i knew I'd like them. |
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Quoted: Every time I've encountered a black bear in the woods, it was basically a crashing sound followed by the blur of the ass end of it running away from me as fast as it could. I understand that grizzlies are different and hope to never encounter one. View Quote Male black bears have killed more people than grizzlies, if I'm not mistaken, and they are in predator mode at night. Underestimate them at your peril. |
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Quoted: Your car is not safe. You should see what the bears in Yosemite will do to a car when you leave a cooler in it over night in a parking lot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/407062/download__11_-1978535.jpg View Quote Guessing I'm better off sleeping in the tent than with the food, even if the food is locked in a car. |
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People shit talk rooftop tents here, but I’m thinking I want my muzzle of my AR15 in the bears mouth versus having to shoot off of my back at the bear already eating me.
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This is unpossible.
bears are afraid of humans. bears run from humans bears are more afraid of you than you are of them. it's the humans fault for encroaching on the bears home. Bears suck. All of them. |
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Thankfully I'm a man so I don't worry about such trivial problems.
Bear spray first always. It's the most efficient defense in a bear attack. If not 10mm, all of them. If both of those fail you probably shouldn't be in the gene pool anyway. If it's really weird and I happen to be in a tent 12g slugs will follow if needed. |
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GD snark aside, paddling a kayak for 2 hours to get medical help post-bear attack, in the dead of night no less, takes resolve. Fuckin A.
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Quoted: From the article : "The big thing is being prepared as well as these folks were. You could get attacked in the Fred Meyer parking lot you're always in bear country here," Selinger told ADN. "Always have some medical equipment, maybe compression bandages and things you may not think of. And whenever you're going out, just be prepared in case something does happen have a plan of how to get back to safety or how to contact somebody." I'd love to know how you pack stuff that you didn't think of. View Quote Yeah, that’s about as helpful as telling someone not to forget something. “Oh, the secret to remembering is to not forget? Thanks, Captain Obvious.” |
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I know an old wilderness outfitter who used tripwire alarms (basically a cylinder with a blank cartridge, spring loaded firing pin that's triggered by a wire or fishing line etc.).
Said it actually worked well on bears a few times, but it spooked his horses. |
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Quoted: Any animal that's larger than you is potentially dangerous. But you usually have to do something stupid to get in trouble with them. I've had black bears brush up against the side of my tent, and come within a few feet of me many times. Black bears are generally docile unless you mess with their cubs. Just don't do that, and they won't bother you. View Quote Food odors are a trigger. Especially for bears which have learned to enjoy the savory treats of the human world. The bear who brushes up your tent out of curiosity one night might be the same one who tears into all your gear the next night, when he gets a whiff of that porterhouse with garlic and onions :) |
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I have slept in a tent in black bear country a few times. Once for about a week and a half in Ontario. I was fine.
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Bear buffet, sometimes known as fast food if the conditions are right.
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I am way more terrified of dying in a puddle of urine in my bed that being killed by a bear in a tent.
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Tent camped at the foot of Mantanuska glacier in Alaska one summer. Had a S&W mountain gun under my pillow. Had a horse sneak up on me in the middle of the “night”. Scared me at first until
I heard it breathing outside. |
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Quoted: 440g hardcast in .500S&W minimum for bear deterrent. View Quote Now hand it to your wife in the middle of the night and lets see her get every shot in the 10 ring on a 2" bullseye at 2 yards.... There is a big reason so many people have moved away from the hand cannons, especially people who actually need a firearm for bear protection... |
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I must be overly paranoid as I wilderness camp in only black bear county yet I don’t even keep sunscreen, toothpaste and dish soap in camp. That gets hung up in the food barrel away from camp.
…and I keep a tactical shotgun loaded with 3 rounds of 00 buck and 2 slugs (and a reload). I don’t bother with handguns. If something out there needs killing it’s worth over-killing. More worried about 2 legged predators of the backcountry hillbilly variety. I don’t think I have a purty mouth and my pig squeals aren’t that good. |
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View Quote What kind of movie was that??? LOL. That was cool. |
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View Quote Everybody all, "it was a good death" in Legends of the Fall...... Fuck that. |
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The best way to protect your camp from bear is as everyone is drifting off to sleep sit up as fast as you can and yell "what the hell is that!?) After this you can sleep peacefully knowing everyone else in camp will be wide awake and prepared for anything.
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My wife will only sleep in a tent if the weather is 70F or below, no rain, no mosquitos, easy access to toilet facilities and we are fully protected from marauding wildlife.
So given we're in Texas, and Florida before that, the only place I can set up is within my own house. Still pack a G20 and AR in my bag though, for authenticity. |
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Quoted: Your car is not safe. You should see what the https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/407062/download__11_-1978535.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I had a close encounter with a bear on a camping trip a long time ago. After seeing the bear walking through my camp site, I slept in the car that night. Your car is not safe. You should see what the https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/407062/download__11_-1978535.jpg |
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Not sure why he backed into the tent and zipped them in. The bear can easily rip in, but they can't rip out, there is no other exit, it doesn't obfuscate their odor (infact the tent would be a gigantic human odor source), his only weapon was outside, etc. Surely better to be ready to move, then get out and take off at the first sign of the bear, and leave it to stomp on the empty tent. |
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