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Link Posted: 9/23/2019 3:55:43 PM EST
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Might be a GD ban, and I think (this is just my assumption) the violation was him starting this thread. Someone mentioned a stipulation of his return from the last timeout was for him to cool it in political threads.
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I get it & all, but it's kinda messed up to ban a person (with an obvious compulsion, lol) from posting about a topic, instead of simply banning him.  I imagine none of the guys screeching self-righteously about oppressive forum censorship a month back will raise a peep for their brother, now
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 4:11:48 PM EST
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I get it & all, but it's kinda messed up to ban a person (with an obvious compulsion, lol) from posting about a topic, instead of simply banning him.  I imagine none of the guys screeching self-righteously about oppressive forum censorship a month back will raise a peep for their brother, now
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Might be a GD ban, and I think (this is just my assumption) the violation was him starting this thread. Someone mentioned a stipulation of his return from the last timeout was for him to cool it in political threads.
I get it & all, but it's kinda messed up to ban a person (with an obvious compulsion, lol) from posting about a topic, instead of simply banning him.  I imagine none of the guys screeching self-righteously about oppressive forum censorship a month back will raise a peep for their brother, now
Why would we?

He's been toying around on the line for years, and finally bugged the mods enough, after a few rounds of warnings.

Someone could try to equate his removal from GD as some hypocritical glee about censorship, but calls for his removal predate the timeline given by staff for when they started planning the new "changes".

He's not kicked from the site, which is fine. At some point down the road, he may be let back in to GD.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 4:30:48 PM EST
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@joker581 I won't bug you about this too much, but is this the sort of behavior you consider beneficial to the site?
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@joker581 I won't bug you about this too much, but is this the sort of behavior you consider beneficial to the site?
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 5:40:27 PM EST
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Anyone have the video of Biden talking about how he influenced Ukraine?
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 6:10:42 PM EST
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So they’re still actively spying on DJT.
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We still don't know what we don't know.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 6:15:58 PM EST
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We still don't know what we don't know.
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So they’re still actively spying on DJT.
We still don't know what we don't know.
Those are the unknown unknowns
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 6:19:44 PM EST
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Hannity just played it 20 times in a row. It can't be hard to find.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 7:35:01 PM EST
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Hannity just played it 20 times in a row. It can't be hard to find.
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Hannity just played it 20 times in a row. It can't be hard to find.
https://www.cfr.org/event/foreign-affairs-issue-launch-former-vice-president-joe-biden

Starts at 52:30 and runs for about 45 seconds...

Excerpts from: http://commonsensenation.net/joe-biden-threatened-ukrainian-president-to-fire-a-prosecutor-in-order-to-protect-his-son-while-obama-was-still-president/

Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn't immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.
"I said, 'You're not getting the billion.' I'm going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: 'I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money,'" Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

"Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time," Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.

Interviews with a half-dozen senior Ukrainian officials confirm Biden's account, though they claim the pressure was applied over several months in late 2015 and early 2016, not just six hours of one dramatic day. Whatever the case, Poroshenko and Ukraine's parliament obliged by ending Shokin's tenure as prosecutor. Shokin was facing steep criticism in Ukraine, and among some U.S. officials, for not bringing enough corruption prosecutions when he was fired.

But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn't mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden's younger son, Hunter, as a board member.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 7:36:54 PM EST
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Big surprise!  Mitt Romney calls for Trump-Ukraine whistleblower complaint to be released

https://www.axios.com/mitt-romney-trump-ukraine-whistleblower-complaint-992fded3-0614-4a22-8bbb-d749d9bbbb54.html

No roos, please....
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 7:57:56 PM EST
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https://www.cfr.org/event/foreign-affairs-issue-launch-former-vice-president-joe-biden

Starts at 52:30 and runs for about 45 seconds...

Excerpts from: http://commonsensenation.net/joe-biden-threatened-ukrainian-president-to-fire-a-prosecutor-in-order-to-protect-his-son-while-obama-was-still-president/

Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn't immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.
"I said, 'You're not getting the billion.' I'm going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: 'I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money,'" Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

"Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time," Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.

Interviews with a half-dozen senior Ukrainian officials confirm Biden's account, though they claim the pressure was applied over several months in late 2015 and early 2016, not just six hours of one dramatic day. Whatever the case, Poroshenko and Ukraine's parliament obliged by ending Shokin's tenure as prosecutor. Shokin was facing steep criticism in Ukraine, and among some U.S. officials, for not bringing enough corruption prosecutions when he was fired.

But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn't mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden's younger son, Hunter, as a board member.
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Anyone really wonder why Obama is not endorsing Joe feel em up Biden. Biden is a total lying POS stooge.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 8:48:54 PM EST
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What the fuck ever happened to the news vetting their stories instead of just throwing shit out there?
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Why do never trumpers repeat those stories as fact without vetting it themselves?
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 8:55:10 PM EST
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Boom.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 9:06:04 PM EST
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I guess I'm still a little confused how everything goes together.

So someone overheard something several years ago.

They then told someone else (the whistleblower) that it was Trump saying those things.

The whistleblower goes public.

Then it turns out it was actually Biden that said those things?

I must have that completely wrong
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 9:24:49 PM EST
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I get it & all, but it's kinda messed up to ban a person (with an obvious compulsion, lol) from posting about a topic, instead of simply banning him.  I imagine none of the guys screeching self-righteously about oppressive forum censorship a month back will raise a peep for their brother, now
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Pretty sure there are less than 50 posts from him in tech forums in the last 8 years. He was here purely for gd and politics. His posts are designed to bait folks into losing their cool.
He couldn't help himself and started this thread. He would be gone from it by now, as the details come out.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 9:37:53 PM EST
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I guess I'm still a little confused how everything goes together.

So someone overheard something several years ago.

They then told someone else (the whistleblower) that it was Trump saying those things.

The whistleblower goes public.

Then it turns out it was actually Biden that said those things?

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Biden got his coke head brother's wife fucking son a spot on the board of ukraine's biggest gas company using .government as leverage.
They get other sweet deals, and 300 million dollars goes missing in a failed deal.
Biden then pressures Ukrainian officials to fire the head prosecutor who is looking into his son and corruption. He then brags about doing it in an interview.
Trump wants ukraine to reopen the investigation, and they are willing to do so, including the obama administration requests for damaging information on manafort to use against Trump.
The whistle-blower heard second hand hearsay that Trump was looking for dirt on biden, and blew their wad.
They and biden look to heading up shit creek soon.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 9:38:22 PM EST
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What the fuck ever happened to the news vetting their stories instead of just throwing shit out there?
Why do never trumpers repeat those stories as fact without vetting it themselves?
Yeah, with my vast resources and contacts in DC...
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 9:39:12 PM EST
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I get it & all, but it's kinda messed up to ban a person (with an obvious compulsion, lol) from posting about a topic, instead of simply banning him.  I imagine none of the guys screeching self-righteously about oppressive forum censorship a month back will raise a peep for their brother, now
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It's messed up to stop a guy with a compulsion for trolling, from....trolling? Ok.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 9:40:26 PM EST
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Great question. Four years of this retarded shit and people still fall for it. Liberals have soft minds.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 9:46:26 PM EST
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Yeah, with my vast resources and contacts in DC...
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What the fuck ever happened to the news vetting their stories instead of just throwing shit out there?
Why do never trumpers repeat those stories as fact without vetting it themselves?
Yeah, with my vast resources and contacts in DC...
That was kind of a rhetorical question, but while you’re here;

Especially after left news has been wrong so many times & has been caught in so many outright lies in the last several years, why continue to parrot their reporting?

I don’t think you’re a bad guy, sure not as bad as some of underscores, but it does tend to put you into their general category
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 9:48:11 PM EST
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Biden got his coke head brother's wife fucking son a spot on the board of ukraine's biggest gas company using .government as leverage.
They get other sweet deals, and 300 million dollars goes missing in a failed deal.
Biden then pressures Ukrainian officials to fire the head prosecutor who is looking into his son and corruption. He then brags about doing it in an interview.
Trump wants ukraine to reopen the investigation, and they are willing to do so, including the obama administration requests for damaging information on manafort to use against Trump.
The whistle-blower heard second hand hearsay that Trump was looking for dirt on biden, and blew their wad.
They and biden look to heading up shit creek soon.
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Thanks.

What a shitshow.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 10:36:34 PM EST
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Yeah, with my vast resources and contacts in DC...
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You don't have to have "vast resources" to keep your mouth shut for a couple days before making yourself look foolish for the 900th time.
Link Posted: 9/23/2019 10:37:24 PM EST
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You don't have to have "vast resources" to keep your mouth shut for a couple days before making yourself look foolish for the 900th time.
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Link Posted: 9/23/2019 10:38:29 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/24/2019 7:47:13 AM EST
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Biden got his coke head brother's wife fucking son a spot on the board of ukraine's biggest gas company using .government as leverage.
They get other sweet deals, and 300 million dollars goes missing in a failed deal.
Biden then pressures Ukrainian officials to fire the head prosecutor who is looking into his son and corruption. He then brags about doing it in an interview.
Trump wants ukraine to reopen the investigation, and they are willing to do so, including the obama administration requests for damaging information on manafort to use against Trump.
The whistle-blower heard second hand hearsay that Trump was looking for dirt on biden, and blew their wad.
They and biden look to heading up shit creek soon.
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I guess I'm still a little confused how everything goes together.

So someone overheard something several years ago.

They then told someone else (the whistleblower) that it was Trump saying those things.

The whistleblower goes public.

Then it turns out it was actually Biden that said those things?

I must have that completely wrong
Biden got his coke head brother's wife fucking son a spot on the board of ukraine's biggest gas company using .government as leverage.
They get other sweet deals, and 300 million dollars goes missing in a failed deal.
Biden then pressures Ukrainian officials to fire the head prosecutor who is looking into his son and corruption. He then brags about doing it in an interview.
Trump wants ukraine to reopen the investigation, and they are willing to do so, including the obama administration requests for damaging information on manafort to use against Trump.
The whistle-blower heard second hand hearsay that Trump was looking for dirt on biden, and blew their wad.
They and biden look to heading up shit creek soon.
And just to add definition to this

In 1993, Biden married Kathleen Buhle, and together they have three daughters. In 2016 he began dating Hallie Olivere, his former sister-in-law and the widow of his brother, Beau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:03:39 AM EST
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LOL
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 4:10:44 PM EST
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Wow, the thin skinned snowflakes win another one.  Delicate little bitches.
Link Posted: 9/25/2019 12:03:38 PM EST
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still waiting for the disclosure of the whistleblower complaintant and testimony from said whistleblower before the fake impeachment inquiry pelosi announced yesterday
Link Posted: 9/25/2019 3:40:21 PM EST
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Any bets that this whistleblower is John Bolton?  

Link Posted: 9/25/2019 5:23:46 PM EST
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where are all the avid posters who were discussing the intricate details of the whistle blowing
Link Posted: 9/25/2019 5:29:15 PM EST
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Any bets that this whistleblower is John Bolton?  

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Maybe Dan Coats was involved too
Link Posted: 9/25/2019 5:33:54 PM EST
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man, Giuliani really breaking it off in the Biden clan... I hate that dummycrats have brought us here, but it is quite satisfying to see someone sling shit their way like this... I'm actually having a hard time recalling any democrats ever getting outright roasted in the press like this... he holds back nothing..

Giuliani: Democrats stepped into more than they realize
Link Posted: 9/25/2019 6:43:43 PM EST
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I’m slow. Did the Op get the ban hammer or slink off with his tail between his legs finally?
Link Posted: 9/25/2019 7:02:51 PM EST
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What the fuck ever happened to the news vetting their stories instead of just throwing shit out there?
Why do never trumpers repeat those stories as fact without vetting it themselves?
Because they were the people posting this to mock those who were still voting and hadn't quit on the election yet like the MSM desperately wanted us to:

Attachment Attached File


(which would have cost us Scalia's seat and 4 more years of Hawaii Judge style picks.)

And they realized they sat crying under the bleachers during a winning effort, carrying water for the other team, and they've been doing their_best to get their win back ever since.
Link Posted: 9/25/2019 7:16:11 PM EST
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man, Giuliani really breaking it off in the Biden clan... I hate that dummycrats have brought us here, but it is quite satisfying to see someone sling shit their way like this... I'm actually having a hard time recalling any democrats ever getting outright roasted in the press like this... he holds back nothing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPsiSM4H8ZY
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Damn that dude is pissed.
Link Posted: 9/25/2019 7:31:14 PM EST
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Damn that dude is pissed.
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man, Giuliani really breaking it off in the Biden clan... I hate that dummycrats have brought us here, but it is quite satisfying to see someone sling shit their way like this... I'm actually having a hard time recalling any democrats ever getting outright roasted in the press like this... he holds back nothing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPsiSM4H8ZY
Damn that dude is pissed.
He should be, we all should be.
Link Posted: 9/25/2019 10:16:28 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/25/2019 11:17:58 PM EST
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Any bets that this whistleblower is John Bolton Donald Trump?  
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Link Posted: 9/26/2019 11:27:06 AM EST
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The declassified complaint is a joke.  Nothing in the "complaint" has anything to do with "A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or Executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity within the responsibility and authority of the Director of National Intelligence involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinions concerning public policy matters." which is the USC under which the "urgent complaint" was filed.  It's a political hit and the person who submitted it should IMHO not be entitled to whistleblower protection.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 12:06:01 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/26/2019 1:49:37 PM EST
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/26/report-federal-worker-who-made-complaint-is-cia-officer/
The partisan federal employee who issued a complaint regarding President Donald Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is a male CIA officer who was previously “detailed to work at the White House,” according to the New York Times.
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 3:38:48 PM EST
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We're going to need a bigger bucket
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 5:22:56 PM EST
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this thread seems to have been abandoned by the never/anti trumpers

wt* is the next fake news thing they are getting ready to spring to spam and troll the board with?

the leftist in congress hasn't even voted for a formal impeachment yet, and it appears they have already realized they failed with this story, so they are going on to the next one
Link Posted: 9/26/2019 5:32:13 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/26/2019 5:47:41 PM EST
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this thread seems to have been abandoned by the never/anti trumpers

wt* is the next fake news thing they are getting ready to spring to spam and troll the board with?

the leftist in congress hasn't even voted for a formal impeachment yet, and it appears they have already realized they failed with this story, so they are going on to the next one
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In thread after thread, in narrative after narrative, the moment the scoreboard goes upside down on them?
They SUDDENLY lose their nuts, they are out of media talking points and they leave.

The moment it looks like the left might score points, these brave Real_Conservatives will return.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 1:46:43 PM EST
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whistle blower complaint found here

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/26/whistleblower-trump-ukraine-read-in-full-text-document

sekulo and others claim complaint written with aid of lawyers, due to phrasing and wording used, and complaint appears to be co-ordinated effort to take out Trump
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:27:32 PM EST
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whistle blower complaint found here

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/26/whistleblower-trump-ukraine-read-in-full-text-document

sekulo and others claim complaint written with aid of lawyers, due to phrasing and wording used, and complaint appears to be co-ordinated effort to take out Trump
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As a whistle-blower complaint that just reads as ridiculous.  I want to know what lawyer assisted him in writing that and what information was shared with him to do so.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 2:35:55 PM EST
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In thread after thread, in narrative after narrative, the moment the scoreboard goes upside down on them?
They SUDDENLY lose their nuts, they are out of media talking points and they leave.

The moment it looks like the left might score points, these brave Real_Conservatives will return.
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this thread seems to have been abandoned by the never/anti trumpers

wt* is the next fake news thing they are getting ready to spring to spam and troll the board with?

the leftist in congress hasn't even voted for a formal impeachment yet, and it appears they have already realized they failed with this story, so they are going on to the next one
In thread after thread, in narrative after narrative, the moment the scoreboard goes upside down on them?
They SUDDENLY lose their nuts, they are out of media talking points and they leave.

The moment it looks like the left might score points, these brave Real_Conservatives will return.
Hey now, it’s only been happening constantly since 2016, so we don’t have a pattern to go off yet.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 3:01:30 PM EST
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As a whistle-blower complaint that just reads as ridiculous.  I want to know what lawyer assisted him in writing that and what information was shared with him to do so.
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the complaint looks like a researched legal document, and half the times, it states a hear say, then disclaims it as such.

there is nothing first hand that was claimed by the supposed originator of the document, that could be used to base a complaint on.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 3:30:33 PM EST
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As a whistle-blower complaint that just reads as ridiculous.  I want to know what lawyer assisted him in writing that and what information was shared with him to do so.
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whistle blower complaint found here

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/26/whistleblower-trump-ukraine-read-in-full-text-document

sekulo and others claim complaint written with aid of lawyers, due to phrasing and wording used, and complaint appears to be co-ordinated effort to take out Trump
As a whistle-blower complaint that just reads as ridiculous.  I want to know what lawyer assisted him in writing that and what information was shared with him to do so.
I'm betting it was Adam Schiff's chief of staff or some other lawyer on his staff.
Link Posted: 9/27/2019 3:31:08 PM EST
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the complaint looks like a researched legal document, and half the times, it states a hear say, then disclaims it as such.

there is nothing first hand that was claimed by the supposed originator of the document, that could be used to base a complaint on.
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As a whistle-blower complaint that just reads as ridiculous.  I want to know what lawyer assisted him in writing that and what information was shared with him to do so.
the complaint looks like a researched legal document, and half the times, it states a hear say, then disclaims it as such.

there is nothing first hand that was claimed by the supposed originator of the document, that could be used to base a complaint on.
May has well have been “White House official familiar with the matter told me...”
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