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Posted: 11/26/2022 12:19:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What hand guard is that? Looks like a triple tap lol Quote HistoryQuoted: What hand guard is that? Looks like a triple tap lol Apex Gator Grip. https://vtsupply-com.3dcartstores.com/Apex-Handguard-System-2150-AR-15-Gator-Grip-Extended-Carbine_p_1175.html Love that handguard |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 12:20:39 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My son shot his first buck this morning with his Aero M5 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61968/CB51F177-DE6F-4907-B2ED-D49F9CC8DC4F_jpe-2614368.JPG 
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Posted: 11/26/2022 12:21:43 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The AR10 doesn't suck, your AR10 sucks |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 1:47:29 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The AR10 WAS the concept rifle. The AR15 is a scaled down AR10. Also, the AR10 is not standardized like the AR15. There are seversl different types and the parts don't play with each other very well unless you stick with a specific platform. The AR-15 is indeed a scaled-up AR-10, but the 7.62mm ARs colloquially referred to as "AR-10s" today are to some extent more along the lines of scaled-up AR-15s, not derivatives of the AR-10 proper. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 2:01:07 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm glad all the boomers have come out to show off their 2k rifles they bought complete from the gun store and shoot once or twice a year and how great they are while simultaneously missing the point that a certain pattern rifle should have basically interchangeable parts. For God's sakes they figured that shit out in the early 1800's building muskets. We've all fucked up and bought the wrong stuff. Where you've gone wrong is acting like a petulant child about it instead of saying hey guys I need help, what do I do here. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 2:02:52 PM EDT
[#6]
With the rise of AR-15 sized 308s, the AR10 should just fade away.
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Posted: 11/26/2022 2:04:52 PM EDT
[#7]
OP reminds me of my buddy. He too is the kind of guy that will say "XYZ sucks because I don't know what I'm doing. Pure trash."
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Posted: 11/26/2022 2:13:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With the rise of AR-15 sized 308s, the AR10 should just fade away.  POF-USA Rogue .308 Win. AR-15 Rifle: Full Review -The Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF-USA) Rogue, an ultralight 5.9-pound AR-15 rifle chambered in .308 Winchester, might be the perfect woods gun. Here's a full review. . |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 2:18:31 PM EDT
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And, there NOTHING wrong with a $600-$700 AR-10-type rifle kit gun. The biggest issue I have seen with guys bitching that: "My parts kit AR-10 doesn't shoot that accurate." is:
1) the shooter is not a good shot and/or 2) ammo is not that good and/or 3) they used the 7 to 8+ pound trigger that came with the kit (I find this to be the biggest and most common issue) - this is an issue with even some high-end rifles. My 6.5 Creedmoor Aero Precision came with a crappy GI-like trigger pull, over 7 pounds. LaRue drop-in trigger at 4 pounds fixed that. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 2:29:35 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm glad all the boomers have come out to show off their 2k rifles they bought complete from the gun store and shoot once or twice a year and how great they are while simultaneously missing the point that a certain pattern rifle should have basically interchangeable parts. For God's sakes they figured that shit out in the early 1800's building muskets. Certain pattern rifle parts are interchangeable. You bought parts from different patterns and expected them to work. Your rifle sucks because you went cheap. If you wanted cheap you should have just went for a PSA PA-10. At least it had a decent chance of working. If you want the “standard” for 7.62 AR’s, it’s KAC/LMT.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 2:31:03 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With the rise of AR-15 sized 308s, the AR10 should just fade away. They’re cool range toys that nobody takes seriously. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 2:47:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They’re cool range toys that nobody takes seriously. So is an Atlas Athena. Doesn't mean folks shouldn't get one. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 2:50:32 PM EDT
[#13]
Never said they shouldn’t. But most modern battle tested firearms tend to not be trash.
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Posted: 11/26/2022 2:55:49 PM EDT
[#14]
PSA's disclaimer for the AR10
"The AR10 platform does not enjoy a common design between manufacturers, like the AR15. As a result, there can and will be subtle differences in the parts kits of various manufacturers. Some parts, like the fire control group, are shared with the AR15 platform to preserve the options for upgrading. For best results, we recommend only using PSA PA10 parts with our uppers and lower receivers. We do not recommend using other manufacturers parts in our products." |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 3:48:50 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP: "Ferraris suck balls!!" OP's Ferrari: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4019/A75365F9-B62C-4008-8F44-193DA614E8E5_jpe-2614371.JPG  Attached FileI couldn't let this post go unacknowledged. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 4:40:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never said they shouldn’t. But most modern battle tested firearms tend to not be trash.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 4:46:44 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sig 716i is damn near perfect IMHO. At least mine is.  yup. 
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Posted: 11/26/2022 6:12:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2022 6:18:51 PM EDT
[#19]
My neighbor wanted an AR10 for his first rifle. He also wanted to do an 80%. I told him he'd be MUCH better off just buying an entire rifle than play roulette with parts. Ended up with a PSA which he likes.
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Posted: 11/26/2022 6:43:26 PM EDT
[#20]
The OP should have been around in the 70s and 80s.
My first job in the gun industry was building and repairing AR-15 type rifles in 1982 - we used surplus parts kits as well as receivers and parts from SGW (became Olympic Arms), Sendra, Quality Parts (became Bushmaster), Pac-West, Rock Island Armory, and others. Back then there was no CNC machining. Many times semi auto pistols and rifles did not work right out of the box. We didn't bitch like babies, we fixed guns and made them work. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 7:10:18 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL! Top one "says" ArmaLite but really isn't. This is a real ArmaLite AR-10 (not mine but I have one): https://64.media.tumblr.com/c96f97bee8e97d485ee01a4b8fbf6eae/tumblr_nqmmbtj7FT1s57vgxo10_r2_540.jpg Anyway, ALL copy variants can be called AR-10-type rifles regardless of which company made them. Also this. Lol |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 8:26:28 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With the rise of AR-15 sized 308s, the AR10 should just fade away. @Tao Can you educate my ignorant self? |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 8:55:24 PM EDT
[#23]
 Went factory gun to avoid any shenanigans. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 8:56:46 PM EDT
[#24]
An AR10 is something I would just buy complete instead of piece together.
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Posted: 11/26/2022 8:59:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Tao Can you educate my ignorant self? POF  Ruger  Should still be considered large frame due to magwell and bolt size IMO. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 9:05:55 PM EDT
[#26]
I built two AR10 platforms rifles that were both under 850 during the first phase of the pandemic.
Both works. The only problem with the AR308 platforms. No set standards. Therefore, parts choosing has be done in which pattern you want to build: Armalite or DPMS. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 9:08:31 PM EDT
[#27]
Five pages!!
I bet we can make a drinking game out of spotting how many times someone has used the word "Flawless" when describing their gun. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 9:25:56 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: POF https://pof-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Rogue-308-1024x288.png Ruger https://ruger.com/productImages/5610/detail/1.jpg Should still be considered large frame due to magwell and bolt size IMO. SFAR on the right, 12.5 on the left 
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Posted: 11/26/2022 9:33:00 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Five pages!! I bet we can make a drinking game out of spotting how many times someone has used the word "Flawless" when describing their gun. So…pretty much everyone except OP? He didn’t want to just pay for a name. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 9:33:49 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The OP should have been around in the 70s and 80s. My first job in the gun industry was building and repairing AR-15 type rifles in 1982 - we used surplus parts kits as well as receivers and parts from SGW (became Olympic Arms), Sendra, Quality Parts (became Bushmaster), Pac-West, Rock Island Armory, and others. Back then there was no CNC machining. Many times semi auto pistols and rifles did not work right out of the box. We didn't bitch like babies, we fixed guns and made them work. Or bought a colt. |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 9:52:46 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: POF https://pof-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Rogue-308-1024x288.png Ruger https://ruger.com/productImages/5610/detail/1.jpg Should still be considered large frame due to magwell and bolt size IMO. Interesting.... too bad I'm 90% into an ap m5 lol |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 10:27:02 PM EDT
[#32]
I must be doing something wrong. The ones I build work and shoot pretty well.
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Posted: 11/26/2022 11:15:28 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Apex Gator Grip. https://vtsupply-com.3dcartstores.com/Apex-Handguard-System-2150-AR-15-Gator-Grip-Extended-Carbine_p_1175.html Love that handguard Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What hand guard is that? Looks like a triple tap lol Apex Gator Grip. https://vtsupply-com.3dcartstores.com/Apex-Handguard-System-2150-AR-15-Gator-Grip-Extended-Carbine_p_1175.html Love that handguard nice....I was looking around today for a float tube and found this..exactly what I was hoping to find. https://blackauratactical.com/ar-10-15-spiral-billet-free-float-ar-10-handguard-with-barrel-nut/ |
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Posted: 11/26/2022 11:46:36 PM EDT
[#34]
Just saying, for a "pattern" rifle that also is touted as a heavier "battle rifle" having no standard is dumb in terms of both a pattern platform and a battle platform. Opinions are like elbows and everyone has a couple. Mine is the lr308/ar10 pattern sucks donkey nuts until it gets standardized.
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Posted: 11/26/2022 11:57:11 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just saying, for a "pattern" rifle that also is touted as a heavier "battle rifle" having no standard is dumb in terms of both a pattern platform and a battle platform. Opinions are like elbows and everyone has a couple. Mine is the lr308/ar10 pattern sucks donkey nuts until it gets standardized. Does the FAL suck? Does the HK G3 suck? |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:02:07 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just saying, for a "pattern" rifle that also is touted as a heavier "battle rifle" having no standard is dumb in terms of both a pattern platform and a battle platform. Opinions are like elbows and everyone has a couple. Mine is the lr308/ar10 pattern sucks donkey nuts until it gets standardized. You are correct. The AR-10 pattern does suck. Should have went with the LMT/KAC pattern. You choose poorly. |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:02:22 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does the FAL suck? Does the HK G3 suck? Are there multiple G3 patterns? |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:03:44 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there multiple G3 patterns? CETME and G3 so technically, yes. And then you have inch and metric on the FAL of course. |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:08:01 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The AR10 doesn't suck, your AR10 sucks This. I've had ZERO issues with my all-aero build except not having enough time to shoot it, and I can't exactly blame the rifle for that ;) |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:18:59 AM EDT
[#40]
OP chooses low tier crap parts and then blames the design.
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:25:01 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/IMG_3548-2365966.jpg Went factory gun to avoid any shenanigans. That thing was a blast to shoot 
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:25:28 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just saying, for a "pattern" rifle that also is touted as a heavier "battle rifle" having no standard is dumb in terms of both a pattern platform and a battle platform. Opinions are like elbows and everyone has a couple. Mine is the lr308/ar10 pattern sucks donkey nuts until it gets standardized. Why would they standardize when people buy their rifles? No incentive. |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:30:46 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Certain pattern rifle parts are interchangeable. You bought parts from different patterns and expected them to work. Your rifle sucks because you went cheap. If you wanted cheap you should have just went for a PSA PA-10. At least it had a decent chance of working. If you want the "standard" for 7.62 AR's, it's KAC/LMT. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2980/052E1ABB-5258-4D43-9BEA-B9BA6F70EF21_jpe-2614515.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2980/240E3755-9893-4AB2-B5C2-64417BB7B98F_jpe-2614516.JPG |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:30:52 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CETME and G3 so technically, yes. And then you have inch and metric on the FAL of course. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are there multiple G3 patterns? CETME and G3 so technically, yes. And then you have inch and metric on the FAL of course. The G3 was also produced in various countries, so there are probably some inconsistencies in dimensions from one country to another. |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:36:19 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I must be doing something wrong. The ones I build work and shoot pretty well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18978/16inchAR10TC_jpg-2615147.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18978/DSC02054_JPG-2615150.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18978/DSC00905_JPG-2615151.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18978/AR-10TC_Criterion_jpg-2615148.JPG 
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:42:43 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The AR10 doesn't suck, your AR10 sucks This. OP, you did no homework and now you’re bitching about your own half-assing a rifle build. 308 AR’s are awesome. |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:43:04 AM EDT
[#47]
I hate the ar10 too. Mostly because an old bm that I could never figger out.
Building one takes a good deal of research and dedication. Buying one takes a good deal of faith in the manufacturer. And there is also tempering expectations. You ain't ever gonna get a 308 as light and handy as a 556. |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 12:51:19 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Had a LMT before my SR25, it's a great rifle. I remember you going from the LMT to the KAC. Funny part is I went to the opposite direction and ditched my KAC EMC for an MWS by way of SCAR-17… Doesn’t help that I have 4 barrels for the MWS by now… but I love the flexibility it offers. I’ll be adding an MLOK upper shortly.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 1:02:17 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CETME and G3 so technically, yes. And then you have inch and metric on the FAL of course. Apart from the furniture and rear sight is there any functional differences between the CETME and the G3? FAL Para model has a different recoil spring assembly |
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Posted: 11/27/2022 1:05:52 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just saying, for a "pattern" rifle that also is touted as a heavier "battle rifle" having no standard is dumb in terms of both a pattern platform and a battle platform. Opinions are like elbows and everyone has a couple. Mine is the lr308/ar10 pattern sucks donkey nuts until it gets standardized. And what would be the motivation for manufacturers to standardize? So it is easier for the aftermarket? |
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