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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:24:19 PM EDT
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It's 52.0 miles from my driveway to Brownells front door. I have been a customer for literally years. I understand that Mr. Brownell stepped down from the NRA to "focus on the family business". Brownells has been a good Corporate member of the Iowa community for years. Maybe now with Brownells in the World Wide Webb mix they can spread that "community" across the country, maybe even internationally. I see this as only making America and the Constitution (all Amendments of the Constitution) stronger with a louder and stronger voice across the world. The 2nd Amendment is specifically a USA Constitutional right. I hope this feeling of "the right to keep and bear arms" touches everywhere where people are held down and controlled by an oppressive government. This could be the 1st step and we are on the ground floor.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:24:33 PM EDT
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If the same group of had been around the American colonies in 1776, they would be saying: .... -If the revolution succeeds, it will become a tyranny, just like it has happened in every revolution before, blah,blah,blah! |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:25:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:26:16 PM EDT
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huh
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:27:09 PM EDT
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Congratulations Avilas/Staff on winning the American Dream! 
This site is one of (if not the) best put together forums on the planet. Looking forward to progress! |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:28:11 PM EDT
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I still think there is some misconception about how holding companies work. (all the below is inference based off my own experience of being bought and working under the umbrella of a holding company, and dealing with 'sister' companies under the same. I *know* nothing specifically about this deal)
Pete Brownell, his father, and probably some other Investors own shares in the holding company, 2nd Adventures. 2nd Adventures owns shares of (or possibly outright) Brownells, probably some others, and now AR15.COM LLC. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Avilas still retain some ownership of AR15.COM LLC, or possibly some shares of 2nd Adventures Holding. But that's their business and doesn't concern us. That does NOT mean ARFCOM is subject to Brownell Inc management, or that AR15.COM LLC is/will be moved under Brownells Inc. Brownells Inc does NOT own AR15.COM LLC. The only relationship between AR15.COM LLC and Brownell INC is both are majority owned by the same holding company, 2nd Adventures. I'm sure 2nd Adventures ownership has certain moves they want to make, and that's fine. They want to maximize the return on their investment. And that's fine too. Great, even. They would be unwise to ignore that AR15.COM LLC has flourished under the leadership of the Avilas and I'm sure they (2nd Adventures ownership) recognize that. I am curious (though don't really expect to know) whether the Avilas were shopping for a buyer or if 2nd Adventures was shopping for a purchase, or both. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:29:33 PM EDT
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In for the rebranding
ARFCOM by Brownells: because anything’s a dildo if you’re brave enough |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:32:13 PM EDT
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Make sure that they look at what VerticalScope did to all the automotive forums out there. Don't do what they did...
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:39:02 PM EDT
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Normally I would wonder why anyone would want a traditional web forum in 2019 since everyone is shifting to social networks, but since all the major social media networks are either demonetizing firearm content or purging it entirely, there might be a good reason to own a site like arfcom.
Even the gun communities that haven't been banned on a site like reddit survive with only the most tortured of rules. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:39:43 PM EDT
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Make sure that they look at what VerticalScope did to all the automotive forums out there. Don't do what they did... I used to be on about 6 forums that VS bought up. They fucked them up so bad that I only go back to one of them now and only to the classified section of that one. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:46:25 PM EDT
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So, all our posts belong to Brownell's now?
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:48:29 PM EDT
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So, all our posts belong to Brownell's now? |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:48:36 PM EDT
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At least they didn't sell to Internet Brands. Because they fucked up every site that they purchased. Hey Canadian Cocksukers, jamb it in your happy hat asses. {Not Fluff or the good Canadians} And also happy it isn't whatsisfuck from Midway. Sure I love Midway too. Just can't stand whatsisfuck. 
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:50:31 PM EDT
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I like Brownells!
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:51:30 PM EDT
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Is that those Canadian Cocksukers? Because they fucked up every site that they purchased. Hey Canadian Cocksukers, jamb it in your happy hat asses. {Not Fluff or the good Canadians} And also happy it isn't whatsisfuck from Midway. Sure I love Midway too. Just can't stand whatsisfuck. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:54:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:54:56 PM EDT
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What about all the site sponsors and business that on this site?
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:55:11 PM EDT
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I feel bad for all the manufacturers that are site sponsors.
I hope you guys at least gave them a big heads up. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:56:18 PM EDT
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I, for one, welcome our new Brownell overlords.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:56:31 PM EDT
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I like Brownells! |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:56:51 PM EDT
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...and their subsidiaries. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, all our posts belong to Brownell's now? 2nd Adventures owns AR15.COM LLC. 2nd Adventures owns Brownells Inc. That does not necessarily mean Brownells Inc owns rights to AR15.COM LLC IP or content. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 6:58:44 PM EDT
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In every large group of great people like this one, there is always a small sub-set of naysayers and pessimists I am not surprised to see some of you afraid of change.That has been the history of the world, and certainly that of Arfcom, but I urge you all to look up instead of down! If the same group of had been around the American colonies in 1776, they would be saying: -No country has beaten the British military and gotten independence..........ever! -If the revolution succeeds, it will become a tyranny, just like it has happened in every revolution before, blah,blah,blah! TL;DR version: Have some faith in what is being done and be positive!  
Congrats and good luck! |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:00:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. At least not Brownells Inc. 2nd Adventures owns AR15.COM LLC. 2nd Adventures owns Brownells Inc. That does not necessarily mean Brownells Inc owns rights to AR15.COM LLC IP or content. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:00:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Obviously you guys don't have to answer this, but do the Avila's still maintain a controlling share, or are they now Brownells employees, able to be removed at will? So....fingers crossed that arfcom avoids that fate.... |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:01:21 PM EDT
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Congratulations to the Avilas!
I look forward to the positive changes on the site. 
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:01:24 PM EDT
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I'm going to view this as a positive until given a reason to think differently. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:01:39 PM EDT
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This is a clever ploy by the Brownells to acquire all the data TheRealGurkaDin has harvested.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:04:24 PM EDT
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Dear Brownells,
Release DanTSX, please. Thanks |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:05:43 PM EDT
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This is a clever ploy by the Brownells to acquire all the data TheRealGurkaDin has harvested. “Enough of fee, we buy you now. No more fee.” |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:05:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what I'm wondering. As a former IT Contractor, I have seen many small companies bought up by conglomerates, promised 'nothing will change, but more money!' and usually within a couple years, all new staff and that is if the place/website is even still alive. So....fingers crossed that arfcom avoids that fate.... So ya color me surprised if this place lasts.. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:05:47 PM EDT
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Hmm.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:06:01 PM EDT
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In for the rebranding ARFCOM by Brownells: because anything’s a dildo if you’re brave enough Larr...... |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:06:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. At least not Brownells Inc. 2nd Adventures owns AR15.COM LLC. 2nd Adventures owns Brownells Inc. That does not necessarily mean Brownells Inc owns rights to AR15.COM LLC IP or content. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:08:44 PM EDT
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I told you guys how powerful the Corn Mafia was. You all thought I was joking.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:10:15 PM EDT
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I'm going to view this as a positive until given a reason to think differently. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:11:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Who owns 2nd Adventure Group? The First Adventure Group.  
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:11:21 PM EDT
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So....Lifetime Memberships should be available soon, eh?
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:11:46 PM EDT
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I was kidding. I don’t know anything about this stuff at all. Just a dude who comes to arfcom sometimes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No. At least not Brownells Inc. 2nd Adventures owns AR15.COM LLC. 2nd Adventures owns Brownells Inc. That does not necessarily mean Brownells Inc owns rights to AR15.COM LLC IP or content. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:12:03 PM EDT
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Dear Brownells, Release DanTSX, please. Thanks thx |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. At least not Brownells Inc. 2nd Adventures owns AR15.COM LLC. 2nd Adventures owns Brownells Inc. That does not necessarily mean Brownells Inc owns rights to AR15.COM LLC IP or content. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:12:29 PM EDT
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No. At least not Brownells Inc. 2nd Adventures owns AR15.COM LLC. 2nd Adventures owns Brownells Inc. That does not necessarily mean Brownells Inc owns rights to AR15.COM LLC IP or content. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, all our posts belong to Brownell's now? 2nd Adventures owns AR15.COM LLC. 2nd Adventures owns Brownells Inc. That does not necessarily mean Brownells Inc owns rights to AR15.COM LLC IP or content. Quoted:
—Snip— AR15.com has joined the 2nd Adventure Group family. The 2nd Adventure Group is wholly owned by Pete and Frank Brownell, and also serves as the umbrella company that owns Brownells, Inc. and other industry brands. —Snip—  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:13:19 PM EDT
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There's been plenty of people here with paid memberships - many familiar faces as well, that refuse to purchase a membership again. Do you know when the last time life memberships were offered? 
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:14:27 PM EDT
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You keep pointing that out, but I’m not seeing that it really matters much? Not intending to be a dick towards you, just that I think this seems most applicable: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/A8963196-CA3F-4B4E-A6A0-4BBFE56106B7_jpeg-967940.JPG |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:14:31 PM EDT
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Normally I would wonder why anyone would want a traditional web forum in 2019 since everyone is shifting to social networks, but since all the major social media networks are either demonetizing firearm content or purging it entirely, there might be a good reason to own a site like arfcom. Even the gun communities that haven't been banned on a site like reddit survive with only the most tortured of rules. This site has the best, most user friendly board layout of any forum I've ever used. By far, no questions about it. I do hope it stays that way. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:15:47 PM EDT
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So does Brownells now own all the dick pics that have been submitted to the mods with yearly membership applications?
Will they ever be sold or publicly traded with third parties? Asking for a friend. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:16:34 PM EDT
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Personally, nope. I plan to work harder as this and current events have energized me quite a bit. I feel that there is more left for me to do in this world before my time is up. I plan to pursue those things on behalf of everyone here and our larger firearm supporting family out there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, are he Avila's going on a buying spree with the new found cash ? Retiring, and working remote from Costa Rica ? What y'all doing with all dat cheddar ? |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:18:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I for one absolutely prefer the organizational format of this forum a few hundred billion times over that of "social media platforms" such as Fartbook, Twatter, and those other dens of weaponized autism knows as 4chan, Reddit, and many other forums that have a much less friendly board layout. This site has the best, most user friendly board layout of any forum I've ever used. By far, no questions about it. I do hope it stays that way. It's legible, easy to post, easy for people to write up articles in - whether it be posting news events with pics or a range trip with photos & video & links, easy to read, easy to follow conversations. Arguably the chans aren't terribly bad, it's just that by its own nature they have no actual community. Censorship of r/TheDonald tells you everything you need to know about Reddit. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:19:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You keep pointing that out, but I’m not seeing that it really matters much? Not intending to be a dick towards you, just that I think this seems most applicable: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/A8963196-CA3F-4B4E-A6A0-4BBFE56106B7_jpeg-967940.JPG |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:19:30 PM EDT
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Might be the degree of separation they need to leave ARFcom to its own devices and "retain its brand". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You keep pointing that out, but I’m not seeing that it really matters much? Not intending to be a dick towards you, just that I think this seems most applicable: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/A8963196-CA3F-4B4E-A6A0-4BBFE56106B7_jpeg-967940.JPG Quoted:
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Normally I would wonder why anyone would want a traditional web forum in 2019 since everyone is shifting to social networks, but since all the major social media networks are either demonetizing firearm content or purging it entirely, there might be a good reason to own a site like arfcom. Even the gun communities that haven't been banned on a site like reddit survive with only the most tortured of rules. This site has the best, most user friendly board layout of any forum I've ever used. By far, no questions about it. I do hope it stays that way. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 7:20:06 PM EDT
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Who knows. Maybe this buyout will finally be the one that doesn't inevitably go bad.
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