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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:20:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYep expect the price of memberships to increase
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:20:37 PM EDT
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It will be interesting to see how new NRA discussion threads are moderated.
One step forward, two steps back? 
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:22:02 PM EDT
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The elephant in the room question - What's Brownells getting out of it? They didn't spent what I assume is a good bit of money for nothing. Ok, so 2nd Adventure Group gets a strong voice in the community and an opportunity to help bring change to both arfcom and the community at large. We have some fun things planned for the industry, fun things planned for all of you, and fun things planned for the larger group of gun owners and 2A supporters. The goal is growth and expansion and the ability to fill needs for the 2a community that have been stifled by all the liberal platforms out there in control of too much. So folks like google and facebook and amazon who provide a liberal option have no opposition on the conservative side and thus no fear of shutting doors on us. Whatever 2nd group lets me pursue, or I should say whatever we pursue together, will be focused on an improved outreach to a segment of society too long bullied. Now there's no promises here, but the goal of this thing is to shake things up for the benefit of all. As I have said before. We are not at an ending but at a new beginning. I am very excited to be part of that! |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:22:18 PM EDT
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He who holds the gold makes the rules.
Will be interesting as a n00b to see what changes Brownells makes. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:23:18 PM EDT
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It will be interesting to see how new NRA discussion threads are moderated. One step forward, two steps back? Either now or when the fed cracks down on social media as a whole. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:23:28 PM EDT
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Wow....
Mixed thoughts. I’ve seen the demise of other forums start this way but...if anyone can break the mold...ARFCOM and Brownells can. The possibility of becoming a stronger voice for 1A/2A is exhilarating and possible as long as PC culture and lawyers stay out of the mix. Regardless, I’m in for the ride. I’m appreciative for what the forum is now, thankful for the leadership, and hopeful for even brighter days. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:23:51 PM EDT
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This. I'm not optimistic. When the day comes that the Brownells believe the chatter here negatively reflects upon their business, they will drop the hammer on Arfcom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please don't do to arfcom what happened to the hide.....never liked that place to begin with, but after it changed hands it went downhill quick. When the day comes that the Brownells believe the chatter here negatively reflects upon their business, they will drop the hammer on Arfcom. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:24:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:24:57 PM EDT
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How will this affect users, advertisers and sponsors? Snipershide is a solid example of selling out and failing to be relevant afterwards. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The elephant in the room question - What's Brownells getting out of it? They didn't spent what I assume is a good bit of money for nothing. This is an entirely different situation. I can't stress it enough and I don't know who cares to really see that. I know change is tough and fear leads us to think the world is ending, but give it a few months and see if anything changes before worrying about the sky falling! |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:26:08 PM EDT
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BRAKING: Arfcom active user chart for Q3 2019 released:
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:26:54 PM EDT
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I hope the search function will work better than the current one, but if Brownell’s has anything to do with it, it will suck as badly as theirs does. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:27:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:28:05 PM EDT
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Wow.... Mixed thoughts. I’ve seen the demise of other forums start this way but...if anyone can break the mold...ARFCOM and Brownells can. The possibility of becoming a stronger voice for 1A/2A is exhilarating and possible as long as PC culture and lawyers stay out of the mix. Regardless, I’m in for the ride. I’m appreciative for what the forum is now, thankful for the leadership, and hopeful for even brighter days. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:29:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They get me! Ok, so 2nd Adventure Group gets a strong voice in the community and an opportunity to help bring change to both arfcom and the community at large. We have some fun things planned for the industry, fun things planned for all of you, and fun things planned for the larger group of gun owners and 2A supporters. The goal is growth and expansion and the ability to fill needs for the 2a community that have been stifled by all the liberal platforms out there in control of too much. So folks like google and facebook and amazon who provide a liberal option have no opposition on the conservative side and thus no fear of shutting doors on us. Whatever 2nd group lets me pursue, or I should say whatever we pursue together, will be focused on an improved outreach to a segment of society too long bullied. Now there's no promises here, but the goal of this thing is to shake things up for the benefit of all. As I have said before. We are not at an ending but at a new beginning. I am very excited to be part of that! Is it correct to assume "joined a family" means "was bought by", rather than "allied with"? If you're being held against your will and can only speak in corporate, just respond in underlined italics and we'll call the authorities. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:30:01 PM EDT
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SH and GT were purchased by an advertising company who utilized their traffic to increase profits on their ad inventory. They did not care about the community or its future. This is an entirely different situation. I can't stress it enough and I don't know who cares to really see that. I know change is tough and fear leads us to think the world is ending, but give it a few months and see if anything changes before worrying about the sky falling! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The elephant in the room question - What's Brownells getting out of it? They didn't spent what I assume is a good bit of money for nothing. This is an entirely different situation. I can't stress it enough and I don't know who cares to really see that. I know change is tough and fear leads us to think the world is ending, but give it a few months and see if anything changes before worrying about the sky falling! If Arfcom keeps all the aspects that make it Arfcom, but also becomes the online hub for a wider pro-2A online & social media presence that will be a huge win, not only for the members of Arfcom, but also the 2A. However, I completely understand the trepidation in some posts, because if this great future happens it will go down as the one and only time a forum was acquired by new ownership and didn't turn into total shit. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:30:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They get me! Ok, so 2nd Adventure Group gets a strong voice in the community and an opportunity to help bring change to both arfcom and the community at large. We have some fun things planned for the industry, fun things planned for all of you, and fun things planned for the larger group of gun owners and 2A supporters. The goal is growth and expansion and the ability to fill needs for the 2a community that have been stifled by all the liberal platforms out there in control of too much. So folks like google and facebook and amazon who provide a liberal option have no opposition on the conservative side and thus no fear of shutting doors on us. Whatever 2nd group lets me pursue, or I should say whatever we pursue together, will be focused on an improved outreach to a segment of society too long bullied. Now there's no promises here, but the goal of this thing is to shake things up for the benefit of all. As I have said before. We are not at an ending but at a new beginning. I am very excited to be part of that! |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:32:07 PM EDT
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I, for one, welcome our new mail order overlords.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:32:13 PM EDT
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•A better equipment exchange |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:32:21 PM EDT
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What did they get for the site? Are we talking hundreds, thousands, millions? I'm sure it's my business.  
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:33:58 PM EDT
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How? What plans/roadmap/agreements do you have set up to prevent the exact same things from happening that have happened in the past? Is there a clear split between Brownells corporate side and their ARF-affiliation that will prevent all of the "corporation taking over" concerns that have been voiced in this thread? These advertising companies who buy sites do not look at things like that. They look at how it is going to increase revenues and for how long. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:34:22 PM EDT
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Will we still have casual Fridays? |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:35:00 PM EDT
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Well. I'm not leaving.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:35:38 PM EDT
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DO TURN THE FORUMS INTO SOME FA€3BOOK ALGORITHM LIKE NEWSFEED! please?
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:35:45 PM EDT
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I added it to my to do list.  |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:37:21 PM EDT
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I wonder if some sponsors would hesitate at now having to pay money to a competitor to advertise.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:37:36 PM EDT
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Quoted: They get me! Ok, so 2nd Adventure Group gets a strong voice in the community and an opportunity to help bring change to both arfcom and the community at large. We have some fun things planned for the industry, fun things planned for all of you, and fun things planned for the larger group of gun owners and 2A supporters. The goal is growth and expansion and the ability to fill needs for the 2a community that have been stifled by all the liberal platforms out there in control of too much. So folks like google and facebook and amazon who provide a liberal option have no opposition on the conservative side and thus no fear of shutting doors on us. Whatever 2nd group lets me pursue, or I should say whatever we pursue together, will be focused on an improved outreach to a segment of society too long bullied. Now there's no promises here, but the goal of this thing is to shake things up for the benefit of all. As I have said before. We are not at an ending but at a new beginning. I am very excited to be part of that!  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:37:43 PM EDT
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Any discounts on this? CCW VEST
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:37:57 PM EDT
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Does this mean we get crappy gifts for our membership dues?
EDIT for clarity: like the NRA
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:39:40 PM EDT
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so....Will the Under_Scores finally get banned? |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:40:49 PM EDT
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@DeathHates should I do my thing?
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:41:07 PM EDT
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@DeathHates should I do my thing? |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:41:10 PM EDT
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Will arfcom issue stock? Because I know I want some.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:41:17 PM EDT
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So, then, did I just pay Brownells to be an Industry Partner here?
If so, that's genius on their part, maybe not so smart on my part. It's a legitimate concern going forward. Good for you guys (Avilas), you worked hard and got rewarded. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:41:49 PM EDT
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Will Brownells mention this or publicize AR15.com?
Just looked on their website and Facebook page, no mention so far. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:42:48 PM EDT
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Better than Brownells' AR15.com, abbreviated BARFCOM  Seriously though, sounds like a good thing! 
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:43:39 PM EDT
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@DeathHates should I do my thing? 
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:43:58 PM EDT
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Combination of ARF membership and Brownells EDGE?
EDGECOM! ARFELLS! BRARF! |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:44:01 PM EDT
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My bid was not accepted.
I was going to turn this place into a cooking forum. Looking for a more masculine crowd. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:44:07 PM EDT
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So ARF will turn into a more generic news feed than its current form?
Looking more towards the "mile wide and inch deep" demographic it sounds like. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:44:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perfectly fine. There are no changes planned to anything as it exists. We have projects in the works already for new tools for companies and a brand spanking new EE with all the trimmings.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Perfectly fine. There are no changes planned to anything as it exists. We have projects in the works already for new tools for companies and a brand spanking new EE with all the trimmings. Quoted:
Will the new EE be for members only? Or members only able to post for sale ads? |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:45:24 PM EDT
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Will Brownells mention this or publicize AR15.com? Just looked on their website and Facebook page, no mention so far. IF I read what GB is saying correctly - Brownells does NOT now own or is a partner in ARFCOM. Rather ARFCOM is now owned by the 2nd adventure holding company. Which also owns Brownells. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:46:38 PM EDT
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Pete B this morning after a 2 day bender...
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:47:10 PM EDT
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Beginning of what? Is it correct to assume "joined a family" means "was bought by", rather than "allied with"? If you're being held against your will and can only speak in corporate, just respond in underlined italics and we'll call the authorities. Imagine your yard just got bigger. Say it's 100 acres around your home and any neighbors are gone and you can do anything you want. Would you be content to sit and stare? Would you build a range? ATV/Truck/Mudding course to play on? How about a pool/garden/party shack? There really is no limitations except what you can think of. So we have been running ARFCOM for 20+ years and there are things we always wanted to do and have run into walls. This is an opportunity to make something special with a like minded company. (Like a national gathering! Who remembers the BRC and Gunstock!) |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:47:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well. I'm not leaving. 
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:47:39 PM EDT
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As far as I'm concerned, this transition to corporate ownership can only end for this site in exactly one way:
 Seriously this is one FUCKED UP DECISION and I do not support it. 
I was about to renew my paid membership but I'm seriously rethinking that now.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:47:55 PM EDT
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And HAM icons? |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:48:51 PM EDT
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Too much hyped up corporate speech to believe it's a good thing
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:50:36 PM EDT
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I think some folks interpreting this the wrong way. IF I read what GB is saying correctly - Brownells does NOT now own or is a partner in ARFCOM. Rather ARFCOM is now owned by the 2nd adventure holding company. Which also owns Brownells.  (or a tank emoji!)
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:51:06 PM EDT
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I guess the question for Pete and Frank is beans or no beans
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:51:28 PM EDT
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And HAM icons?
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