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Stay true to the character. It deserves more than that. From You Only Live Once: "Bond's parents were given as Andrew Bond, from the village of Glencoe, Scotland, and Monique Delacroix, from the canton of Vaud, Switzerland." Come on man! I think Ben Affleck would have done just as great a great job as Cinqué in Amistad too... View Quote So simply changing the race of Bond is demeaning their character? I would argue that the portrayal of the character is what would make it hit or miss, not what color they were. If we are using authenticity to the books as a deciding factor on the portrayal of James Bond, then most of the other movies have failed miserably. I think Hollywood does a lot of bad casting, but I don't think this is one of those instances. I bet you're upset there is a black stormtrooper in the new Star Wars as well. |
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Jesus, like David, was ruddy complected, meaning easy to show blood in the face, or easy to see them blush. They both had reddish hair. It means a fair blood- tinged naturally red complexion. Usually people with ruddy complexions are very fair skinned that has a translucent character. The capillaries (or tiny little blood vessels where arteries turn into veins from the release of oxygen into cells and uptake of carbon dioxide from cells) are more visible to the naked eye giving the complexion a reddish look. They blush in a magnificent way and turn very red with strong emotion such as anger. The pale considerable with fear and are the people that "turn white as a sheet". This is from capillary constriction from the fight or flight response.. It used to be called a florid complexion.Irish/English/Scottish ancestry is common. stahp, just stahp. You do know not all tribes were of the same color right. Go over there now and see pure Jewish men and women with dark hair, dark complexions, blonde hair or red hair with light complexions, or reds with ruddy complexions, like the Scots. |
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Jesus, like David, was ruddy complected, meaning easy to show blood in the face, or easy to see them blush. They both had reddish hair. It means a fair blood- tinged naturally red complexion. Usually people with ruddy complexions are very fair skinned that has a translucent character. The capillaries (or tiny little blood vessels where arteries turn into veins from the release of oxygen into cells and uptake of carbon dioxide from cells) are more visible to the naked eye giving the complexion a reddish look. They blush in a magnificent way and turn very red with strong emotion such as anger. The pale considerable with fear and are the people that "turn white as a sheet". This is from capillary constriction from the fight or flight response.. It used to be called a florid complexion.Irish/English/Scottish ancestry is common. View Quote "Jesus was totally white man, there's no way he could have been anything else" So you knew Jesus then; what was he like? |
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Kinda hard for him to pass as Russian or Japanese though... I mean, THIS was bad enough... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D3TZucEvQsw/T3FGXVFmzNI/AAAAAAAABG0/nS0CdPld7CE/s1600/James+Bond,+Japanese+agent.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z316/runcible22/mickey-rooney-breakfast-at-tiffanys_zpsd113a184.jpg WTF is that? Somebody needs to catch up on classic movies. |
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If they're looking at The Wire for casting...
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Are they done with Craig? I like Craig's Bond. He reminds me of Steve McQueen, who I thought would've been a neat Bond if he could have done the accent any justice.
As far as a black Bond? No problems with it here, so long as it's deserved and not done to placate people.
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Kinda hard for him to pass as Russian or Japanese though... I mean, THIS was bad enough... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D3TZucEvQsw/T3FGXVFmzNI/AAAAAAAABG0/nS0CdPld7CE/s1600/James+Bond,+Japanese+agent.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z316/runcible22/mickey-rooney-breakfast-at-tiffanys_zpsd113a184.jpg WTF is that? Somebody needs to catch up on classic movies. LOL, he was actually believable! |
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That's about as fair as saying that anyone in this thread who is white and wants to see a black Bond, has white guilt. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Prepare for all the closet racists on ARF to get their panties in a wad. That's about as fair as saying that anyone in this thread who is white and wants to see a black Bond, has white guilt. >implying Most of the people criticizing the characters have nothing other than "Bond has to be white" as a complaint, with no real notes as to the portrayal of the Bond persona. Stay butthurt. |
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Kinda hard for him to pass as Russian or Japanese though... I mean, THIS was bad enough... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D3TZucEvQsw/T3FGXVFmzNI/AAAAAAAABG0/nS0CdPld7CE/s1600/James+Bond,+Japanese+agent.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z316/runcible22/mickey-rooney-breakfast-at-tiffanys_zpsd113a184.jpg WTF is that? A lead farmer? |
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Sony's internal emails have revealed that they don't like casting black actors as the lead in tentpole films, because they don't think they do as well overseas due to overseas racism. So it probably won't happen.
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>implying Most of the people criticizing the characters have nothing other than "Bond has to be white" as a complaint, with no real notes as to the portrayal of the Bond persona. Stay butthurt. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Prepare for all the closet racists on ARF to get their panties in a wad. That's about as fair as saying that anyone in this thread who is white and wants to see a black Bond, has white guilt. >implying Most of the people criticizing the characters have nothing other than "Bond has to be white" as a complaint, with no real notes as to the portrayal of the Bond persona. Stay butthurt. First I'm racist, now I'm butthurt. You're not very good at reading people. |
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http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2011/10/05/TV-tonight-Community-The-Big-Bang-Theory-2CER0KS-x-large.jpg Seriously, an Indian Bond could be very interesting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Seriously, though, an Indian or Pakistani Bond (or at least partially) would make more sense than a black one, if they want to throw a twist to the conventional narrative. http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2011/10/05/TV-tonight-Community-The-Big-Bang-Theory-2CER0KS-x-large.jpg Seriously, an Indian Bond could be very interesting. |
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First I'm racist, now I'm butthurt. You're not very good at reading people. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Prepare for all the closet racists on ARF to get their panties in a wad. That's about as fair as saying that anyone in this thread who is white and wants to see a black Bond, has white guilt. >implying Most of the people criticizing the characters have nothing other than "Bond has to be white" as a complaint, with no real notes as to the portrayal of the Bond persona. Stay butthurt. First I'm racist, now I'm butthurt. You're not very good at reading people. Yup, definitely butthurt. |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882431/The-s-Elba-Idris-Elba-Leaked-Sony-emails-reveal-boss-Amy-Pascal-wants-British-actor-James-Bond.html http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/21/0C591F6B00000578-2882431-image-m-8_1419156079384.jpg I know this has been mentioned here before but, hey, F the Dupe Police. Elba would be a great Bond, check out Luther on BBC sometime. Great actor View Quote He has the badass part down but can he deliver his lines with a Scottish accent? |
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Seriously, though, an Indian or Pakistani Bond (or at least partially) would make more sense than a black one, if they want to throw a twist to the conventional narrative. http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2011/10/05/TV-tonight-Community-The-Big-Bang-Theory-2CER0KS-x-large.jpg Seriously, an Indian Bond could be very interesting. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3p31qUFSa1qz7f9to1_1280.jpg Born and raised in South Carolina, surprisingly. Doesn't seem like an SC boy at all. Great stand-up comedian. Mediocre actor. |
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Quoted: So simply changing the race of Bond is demeaning their character? I would argue that the portrayal of the character is what would make it hit or miss, not what color they were. If we are using authenticity to the books as a deciding factor on the portrayal of James Bond, then most of the other movies have failed miserably. I think Hollywood does a lot of bad casting, but I don't think this is one of those instances. I bet you're upset there is a black stormtrooper in the new Star Wars as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Stay true to the character. It deserves more than that. From You Only Live Once: "Bond's parents were given as Andrew Bond, from the village of Glencoe, Scotland, and Monique Delacroix, from the canton of Vaud, Switzerland." Come on man! I think Ben Affleck would have done just as great a great job as Cinqué in Amistad too... So simply changing the race of Bond is demeaning their character? I would argue that the portrayal of the character is what would make it hit or miss, not what color they were. If we are using authenticity to the books as a deciding factor on the portrayal of James Bond, then most of the other movies have failed miserably. I think Hollywood does a lot of bad casting, but I don't think this is one of those instances. I bet you're upset there is a black stormtrooper in the new Star Wars as well. That's the whole problem I have with your line of reasoning that he's a good actor so lets throw all the other criteria out the window. Running with YOUR viewpoint is akin to sayin it would be OK to have Darth Vader be played by Sigourney Weaver because she's really good in space movies.
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He has the badass part down but can he deliver his lines with a Scottish accent? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882431/The-s-Elba-Idris-Elba-Leaked-Sony-emails-reveal-boss-Amy-Pascal-wants-British-actor-James-Bond.html http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/21/0C591F6B00000578-2882431-image-m-8_1419156079384.jpg I know this has been mentioned here before but, hey, F the Dupe Police. Elba would be a great Bond, check out Luther on BBC sometime. Great actor He has the badass part down but can he deliver his lines with a Scottish accent? who was the last bond to have the accent again? craig was great for the bond line. i think he revitalized it (along with the director/writers, the grittier bond was perfect). the pierce bond line was stale. |
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No I'm saying it should be grounded in reality. But hey go ahead and read racism into it all you want. I mean I'm sure the world of espionage is loaded with black british guys. That's the whole problem I have with your line of reasoning that he's a good actor so lets throw all the other criteria out the window. Running with YOUR viewpoint is akin to sayin it would be OK to have Darth Vader be played by Sigourney Weaver because she's really good in space movies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Stay true to the character. It deserves more than that. From You Only Live Once: "Bond's parents were given as Andrew Bond, from the village of Glencoe, Scotland, and Monique Delacroix, from the canton of Vaud, Switzerland." Come on man! I think Ben Affleck would have done just as great a great job as Cinqué in Amistad too... So simply changing the race of Bond is demeaning their character? I would argue that the portrayal of the character is what would make it hit or miss, not what color they were. If we are using authenticity to the books as a deciding factor on the portrayal of James Bond, then most of the other movies have failed miserably. I think Hollywood does a lot of bad casting, but I don't think this is one of those instances. I bet you're upset there is a black stormtrooper in the new Star Wars as well. That's the whole problem I have with your line of reasoning that he's a good actor so lets throw all the other criteria out the window. Running with YOUR viewpoint is akin to sayin it would be OK to have Darth Vader be played by Sigourney Weaver because she's really good in space movies. I'm not saying he should be James Bond because he is a good actor, I am saying that he should be James Bond based on the fact he was a very smooth and dominant personality, and is also a good actor. Grounded in reality? A super duper secret agent who always manage to outsmart everyone while being extremely sophisticated and making love to beautiful women, and the only reason that it is unrealistic is because it is a black British guy, and not a white British guy? You can try to justify your blatant racism all you want, but it is painfully obvious why you don't want him to play Bond. |
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No I'm saying it should be grounded in reality. But hey go ahead and read racism into it all you want. I mean I'm sure the world of espionage is loaded with black british guys. That's the whole problem I have with your line of reasoning that he's a good actor so lets throw all the other criteria out the window. Running with YOUR viewpoint is akin to sayin it would be OK to have Darth Vader be played by Sigourney Weaver because she's really good in space movies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Stay true to the character. It deserves more than that. From You Only Live Once: "Bond's parents were given as Andrew Bond, from the village of Glencoe, Scotland, and Monique Delacroix, from the canton of Vaud, Switzerland." Come on man! I think Ben Affleck would have done just as great a great job as Cinqué in Amistad too... So simply changing the race of Bond is demeaning their character? I would argue that the portrayal of the character is what would make it hit or miss, not what color they were. If we are using authenticity to the books as a deciding factor on the portrayal of James Bond, then most of the other movies have failed miserably. I think Hollywood does a lot of bad casting, but I don't think this is one of those instances. I bet you're upset there is a black stormtrooper in the new Star Wars as well. That's the whole problem I have with your line of reasoning that he's a good actor so lets throw all the other criteria out the window. Running with YOUR viewpoint is akin to sayin it would be OK to have Darth Vader be played by Sigourney Weaver because she's really good in space movies. Shhhh. Get out of here with your logic, you racist bastard. |
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Quoted: I'm not saying he should be James Bond because he is a good actor, I am saying that he should be James Bond based on the fact he was a very smooth and dominant personality, and is also a good actor. Grounded in reality? A super duper secret agent who always manage to outsmart everyone while being extremely sophisticated and making love to beautiful women, and the only reason that it is unrealistic is because it is a black British guy, and not a white British guy. You can try to justify your blatant racism all you want, but it is painfully obvious why you don't want him to play Bond. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Stay true to the character. It deserves more than that. From You Only Live Once: "Bond's parents were given as Andrew Bond, from the village of Glencoe, Scotland, and Monique Delacroix, from the canton of Vaud, Switzerland." Come on man! I think Ben Affleck would have done just as great a great job as Cinqué in Amistad too... So simply changing the race of Bond is demeaning their character? I would argue that the portrayal of the character is what would make it hit or miss, not what color they were. If we are using authenticity to the books as a deciding factor on the portrayal of James Bond, then most of the other movies have failed miserably. I think Hollywood does a lot of bad casting, but I don't think this is one of those instances. I bet you're upset there is a black stormtrooper in the new Star Wars as well. That's the whole problem I have with your line of reasoning that he's a good actor so lets throw all the other criteria out the window. Running with YOUR viewpoint is akin to sayin it would be OK to have Darth Vader be played by Sigourney Weaver because she's really good in space movies. I'm not saying he should be James Bond because he is a good actor, I am saying that he should be James Bond based on the fact he was a very smooth and dominant personality, and is also a good actor. Grounded in reality? A super duper secret agent who always manage to outsmart everyone while being extremely sophisticated and making love to beautiful women, and the only reason that it is unrealistic is because it is a black British guy, and not a white British guy. You can try to justify your blatant racism all you want, but it is painfully obvious why you don't want him to play Bond. |
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About the second Luther, I said: Damn, he'd make a great James Bond. If we can have Orange and Green Irish, whey can't we have white as well as black Scots?
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WTF? No racism at all, but Bond is a white British character, that is the stupidest idea that I have ever seen... Yeah, pretty much this.... Why the hell not? They've had Scotsmen, Irishmen... Idris is 100% Brit. Moonraker, Dalton, Moore... Has anyone been to London recently? This guy is the face of modern England. |
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I predict an Elba Bond film will gross less than any of the Daniel Craig Bond films.
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Why the hell not? They've had Scotsmen, Irishmen... Idris is 100% Brit. Moonraker, Dalton, Moore... Has anyone been to London recently? This guy is the face of modern England. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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WTF? No racism at all, but Bond is a white British character, that is the stupidest idea that I have ever seen... Yeah, pretty much this.... Why the hell not? They've had Scotsmen, Irishmen... Idris is 100% Brit. Moonraker, Dalton, Moore... Has anyone been to London recently? This guy is the face of modern England. Because I said so.... Seriously, if you think its a great idea, good for you. I think its stupid. Because Bond is White, and Scottish. I hate revisionist crap, and that is my expectation. And using the "face of modern England" BS is something I'd would expect to hear out of a libs mouth. Who the fuck cares? If thats the case, as another poster said, lets have a Jihadist play Bond, they are the face of modern England too.... |
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This has nothing to do with getting the best possible actor (what's wrong with Daniel Craig?) for the role. This is a Hollywood studio wanting to cast a black man, just because. Just imagine the uproar if George Clooney were given the role of Shaft? View Quote I had heard that Daniel Craig wants out of being bond but he has a contract. |
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Can we just stop p.c.ing every fucking thing? James bond, doctor who, any other fictional character doesn't need to be made black, or female, or gay, or transgender, or whatever else because it's an "in" thing to do.
It's gotten to the point of being ridiculous. I have no problem creating new characters in any of the above combinations, but leave major characters alone. |
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Aimless let us down with this thread. He should have included a poll.
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Because I said so.... Seriously, if you think its a great idea, good for you. I think its stupid. Because Bond is White, and Scottish. I hate revisionist crap, and that is my expectation. And using the "face of modern England" BS is something I'd would expect to hear out of a libs mouth. Who the fuck cares? If thats the case, as another poster said, lets have a Jihadist play Bond, they are the face of modern England too.... [personal attack removed - warning issued - Paul] [personal attack removed - Paul] |
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Because I said so.... Seriously, if you think its a great idea, good for you. I think its stupid. Because Bond is White, and Scottish. I hate revisionist crap, and that is my expectation. And using the "face of modern England" BS is something I'd would expect to hear out of a libs mouth. Who the fuck cares? If thats the case, as another poster said, lets have a Jihadist play Bond, they are the face of modern England too.... [personal attack removed - warning issued - Paul] Jesus dude. Take a few deep breaths and give it a rest. Everything will be alright. I promise. |
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I love it, no wonder race relations are in the shitter...really? Someone wants to see Bond continue as a white Scotsman, as he was written, and that means you are a racist.... So, I guess if I want to re-do Foxy Brown with a hot Asian chick as the lead, i am racist too.... View Quote Yes. The only "real" James Bond today is Archer. The world has moved on and is a different and weird place. That show is the only one that has held true to the ideal of what James Bond really was. |
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Albeit, it would not be the first time Bond was played by a person of a different race, with Rodger Moore and whatnot I agree there is a lot of stupid PC rewriting of characters, like Girl Thor. I just don't see anything about Bond requiring a white actor though. I think a black or Indian could play Bond as long as he pulls off the kind of cool an debonair thing. At least we don't have a lesbian Eskimo woman playing Bond yet View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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WTF? No racism at all, but Bond is a white British character, that is the stupidest idea that I have ever seen... Well he's a black British actor. What's the difference? Just doesn't fit. You don't have a character played by an Australian for 40 years and all of a sudden switch them to being Puerto Rican. Albeit, it would not be the first time Bond was played by a person of a different race, with Rodger Moore and whatnot I agree there is a lot of stupid PC rewriting of characters, like Girl Thor. I just don't see anything about Bond requiring a white actor though. I think a black or Indian could play Bond as long as he pulls off the kind of cool an debonair thing. At least we don't have a lesbian Eskimo woman playing Bond yet This. He seems like a good fit for the role. |
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Seriously, though, an Indian or Pakistani Bond (or at least partially) would make more sense than a black one, if they want to throw a twist to the conventional narrative. http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2011/10/05/TV-tonight-Community-The-Big-Bang-Theory-2CER0KS-x-large.jpg Seriously, an Indian Bond could be very interesting. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3p31qUFSa1qz7f9to1_1280.jpg |
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Lets play a game of recast every white character with black because anyone who criticizes it is racist anyway.
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I wonder if Benedict Cumberbatch could pull it off. He may be too metro to pull off the badass side.
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