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Wow, what an incredibly biased way to ask that. super-douchey, on top of that.
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Catholics believe that Jesus started a church while here on earth with the 12 apostles. He duly informed them, blessed them with the power of the Holy Spirit, and sent them forth with a mission. Every other Christian church was started by someone else who was not one of those 12. View Quote And that Paul brought Christianity to Rome and wasn't one of those 12. |
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You are of course aware that the Coptic Church pre-dates the Roman Catholic Church? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Catholics believe that Jesus started a church while here on earth with the 12 apostles. He duly informed them, blessed them with the power of the Holy Spirit, and sent them forth with a mission. Every other Christian church was started by someone else who was not one of those 12. |
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Catholics believe that Jesus started a church while here on earth with the 12 apostles. He duly informed them, blessed them with the power of the Holy Spirit, and sent them forth with a mission. Every other Christian church was started by someone else who was not one of those 12. |
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One follows the Bible... the other follows the Bible, a Pope, and a bunch of added texts and rituals. Or, more importantly, how did it get from 2000 years ago to now? |
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I believe the main difference between Catholics and other Christians is thier view on Mary. Catholics worship her as the Virgin Mary, mother of God. Other religions do not believe that she was a virgin, or do not pray to her etc. all of them believe the Jesus Christ is the son go God. And that we should be generally good people. View Quote Catholics honor Mary as the mother of Christ. We do not worship her and would acknowledge that she can do nothing by herself (like you and me) without her son. We ask Mary to pray for us, just like I might ask a friend to pray for me too. |
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Catholics believe that Jesus started a church while here on earth with the 12 apostles. He duly informed them, blessed them with the power of the Holy Spirit, and sent them forth with a mission. Every other Christian church was started by someone else who was not one of those 12. |
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No, you appear to claim some supremacy due to age for the Coptic Church. So I assumed you were Coptic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Catholics believe that Jesus started a church while here on earth with the 12 apostles. He duly informed them, blessed them with the power of the Holy Spirit, and sent them forth with a mission. Every other Christian church was started by someone else who was not one of those 12. Nor is the idea that the Church in Rome was founded by one of the original twelve apostles. It was not. It was founded by Paul. Just trying to keep the facts straight. |
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Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth...
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What is your startup date for the Catholic church? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What is your startup date for the Catholic church? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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No, I just see some Roman Catholics claiming "firsties" in these threads. That's just not historically accurate. Nor is the idea that the Church in Rome was founded by one of the original twelve apostles. It was not. It was founded by Paul. Just trying to keep the facts straight. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Catholics believe that Jesus started a church while here on earth with the 12 apostles. He duly informed them, blessed them with the power of the Holy Spirit, and sent them forth with a mission. Every other Christian church was started by someone else who was not one of those 12. Nor is the idea that the Church in Rome was founded by one of the original twelve apostles. It was not. It was founded by Paul. Just trying to keep the facts straight. Without arguing whether Peter was in Rome, I would hope we can agree that Christ started the Church. |
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all Roman Catholics are necessarily Christians, but not all Christians are necessarily Roman Catholic.
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Paul's in Rome around 45 AD. The Coptic Church would have started around a decade or so before that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We ask Mary to pray for us, just like I might ask a friend to pray for me too. View Quote Or something like that.. |
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I like facts and I think that we can agree that Christ had "firsties" to start the Church. If you are Christian, you would agree that the Church is the body of Christ. Without arguing whether Peter was in Rome, I would hope we can agree that Christ started the Church. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Catholics believe that Jesus started a church while here on earth with the 12 apostles. He duly informed them, blessed them with the power of the Holy Spirit, and sent them forth with a mission. Every other Christian church was started by someone else who was not one of those 12. Nor is the idea that the Church in Rome was founded by one of the original twelve apostles. It was not. It was founded by Paul. Just trying to keep the facts straight. Without arguing whether Peter was in Rome, I would hope we can agree that Christ started the Church. None of the books that the Catholics decided to canonize claim that Peter was ever in Rome. That's not my call, that's theirs. Only some non-canon apocryphal texts make the claim. From my study of it, I think it very unlikely that Peter ever visited Rome. In fact, I don't think he ever left the Middle East. |
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Catholic believe in the primacy of Peter, and Peter went to Rome. Note that the building below is not named St John's Basilica; http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UiESKSjnNuQ/U3MoE0ar3gI/AAAAAAAAeVE/uJf7fnEKC5U/s1600/St.+Peter%E2%80%99s+Basilica.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Catholic believe in the primacy of Peter, and Peter went to Rome. Note that the building below is not named St John's Basilica; http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UiESKSjnNuQ/U3MoE0ar3gI/AAAAAAAAeVE/uJf7fnEKC5U/s1600/St.+Peter%E2%80%99s+Basilica.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There you go again. Trying to claim some supremacy of the Coptic Church due to age. Christ started the Church. Can you agree? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The real question is whether or not churches chicken was served at the last supper?
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For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Jesus Christ.
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I believe the main difference between Catholics and other Christians is thier view on Mary. Catholics worship her as the Virgin Mary, mother of God. Other religions do not believe that she was a virgin, or do not pray to her etc. all of them believe the Jesus Christ is the son go God. And that we should be generally good people. View Quote |
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Catholics believe that Jesus started a church while here on earth with the 12 apostles. He duly informed them, blessed them with the power of the Holy Spirit, and sent them forth with a mission. Every other Christian church was started by someone else who was not one of those 12. |
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I believe the main difference between Catholics and other Christians is thier view on Mary. Catholics worship her as the Virgin Mary, mother of God. Other religions do not believe that she was a virgin, or do not pray to her etc. all of them believe the Jesus Christ is the son go God. And that we should be generally good people. View Quote |
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