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Posted: 9/1/2022 8:11:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2022 11:58:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: india will be the Italy of ww3. Incompetent and utterly humiliated lol Russia already clinched that position. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:26:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That S.O.B. probably runs on curry.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Imagine the smell. That S.O.B. probably runs on curry. Every deck is a poop deck. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:27:15 PM EDT
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Quoted: https://www.bizzbuzz.news/economy/stage-set-for-reincarnation-of-ins-vikrant-aircraft-carrier-1163049 India's first indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant has a displacement of 43,000 tonnes, while China's Fujian has a displacement of more than 80,000 tonnes. The USS Gerald R Ford, the largest warship in the world, has a displacement of 112,000 tonnes https://thefederal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/ins-vikrant.jpg Good for them. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:27:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine the smell. Imagine the poop deck |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:29:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine the smell. Having just survived a 15 hour flight with countless Indian asses in my face, bumping into me and waking me, and having the longest toilet lines I've EVER seen on an airplane, and being told by a pretty Asian flight attendant not to use a particular toilet with a horrified look on her face... ...I don't have to imagine 
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:30:39 PM EDT
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How far is India able to project their aircraft carrier? Is it blue water capable?
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:31:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine the smell. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:31:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ski jump, not a real carrier. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:37:02 PM EDT
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How many Pajeets can hang off the side of it?
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:38:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How far is India able to project their aircraft carrier? Is it blue water capable? Everywhere it goes turns to brown water. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:39:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could not agree more. India has made it known to us that they don't appreciate being treated like fly-over country. Joke about call centers and river shitting all you want, but they would be a hell of an ally if things got "real". We've fucked over India for decades. They don't trust us, they generally do whatever is best for themselves. There's a reason they still purchase Russian oil and Russian weapons, it's because when the chips were really down (and they needed us) we decided to cozy up with Pakistan for some retarded reason |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:39:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: india will be the Italy of ww3. Incompetent and utterly humiliated lol Ooof, but LMAO I could see it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:41:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine the smell.  Uhh, why did you have to put that in my brain! |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ski jump, not a real carrier. Serious question. Besides the different looks, what’s the difference between ours and ski jumps? What’s the reason other countries use them instead of our style? |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 1:29:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Serious question. Besides the different looks, what’s the difference between ours and ski jumps? What’s the reason other countries use them instead of our style? A ski jump has no moving parts, so it's simpler, cheaper and easier to both build and maintain. The drawback is that it doesn't allow for the same large loadouts as a cat carrier, just like a VTOL fighter/attack bird can't carry as much as one that uses a cat or nice, long runway. If the planes are too heavy, and there's no cat, they can't get up sufficient speed in such a short launch to stay in the air, so they have to launch lighter than their full potential payload, and that weight has to come out of the ordnance or fuel they can carry. You can launch fully loaded birds with nothing in the gas tank, if you can refuel them immediately once they're in the air, or you can launch fully fueled birds with barely anything on the hardpoints. A ski jump carrier can't do both. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 1:29:52 PM EDT
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So this Indian ship has made it further than GB's warship?
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Posted: 9/1/2022 1:35:02 PM EDT
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Every one making jokes about the poop decks. Relax its really hot and sunny out so it will dry out fast and not gonna smell bad.
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Posted: 9/1/2022 1:37:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having just survived a 15 hour flight with countless Indian asses in my face, bumping into me and waking me, and having the longest toilet lines I've EVER seen on an airplane, and being told by a pretty Asian flight attendant not to use a particular toilet with a horrified look on her face... ...I don't have to imagine Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Imagine the smell. Having just survived a 15 hour flight with countless Indian asses in my face, bumping into me and waking me, and having the longest toilet lines I've EVER seen on an airplane, and being told by a pretty Asian flight attendant not to use a particular toilet with a horrified look on her face... ...I don't have to imagine No surprise there, in some of these third world countries, they don’t have toilets, so they don’t know how to use them. That leads to messes on the toilet, not inside it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 1:52:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: india will be the Italy of ww3. Incompetent and utterly humiliated lol Of all the Asian navies they have a blue water one and have the ability to project power beyond their shores. I really wouldn’t look down on them to much since they have a long history as a sea faring power that had a shit load of British influence in how they operate. This kind of comment is akin to how some in America look at the French military, like the Indian navy the French military is probably the best equipt and powerful maybe outside of the poles right now in Europe. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 1:58:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A ski jump has no moving parts, so it's simpler, cheaper and easier to both build and maintain. The drawback is that it doesn't allow for the same large loadouts as a cat carrier, just like a VTOL fighter/attack bird can't carry as much as one that uses a cat or nice, long runway. If the planes are too heavy, and there's no cat, they can't get up sufficient speed in such a short launch to stay in the air, so they have to launch lighter than their full potential payload, and that weight has to come out of the ordnance or fuel they can carry. You can launch fully loaded birds with nothing in the gas tank, if you can refuel them immediately once they're in the air, or you can launch fully fueled birds with barely anything on the hardpoints. A ski jump carrier can't do both. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Serious question. Besides the different looks, what’s the difference between ours and ski jumps? What’s the reason other countries use them instead of our style? A ski jump has no moving parts, so it's simpler, cheaper and easier to both build and maintain. The drawback is that it doesn't allow for the same large loadouts as a cat carrier, just like a VTOL fighter/attack bird can't carry as much as one that uses a cat or nice, long runway. If the planes are too heavy, and there's no cat, they can't get up sufficient speed in such a short launch to stay in the air, so they have to launch lighter than their full potential payload, and that weight has to come out of the ordnance or fuel they can carry. You can launch fully loaded birds with nothing in the gas tank, if you can refuel them immediately once they're in the air, or you can launch fully fueled birds with barely anything on the hardpoints. A ski jump carrier can't do both. Thanks for the explanation, it led me to even further reading. Didn’t realize they didn’t use a cat to launch. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:04:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We've fucked over India for decades. They don't trust us, they generally do whatever is best for themselves. There's a reason they still purchase Russian oil and Russian weapons, it's because when the chips were really down (and they needed us) we decided to cozy up with Pakistan for some retarded reason Yeah every country looks out for their own best interest. Most of the time that doesn't dovetail with US interests and vice versa. Of course, under obama we threw the british and israelis under the bus in favor of iran and pakistan mainly because someone in the DNC is getting paid. I wouldn't trust the US either. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:07:06 PM EDT
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Good!
The Indians freaking can't stand the Chinese right now after that brush they had a few years back. We need our allies in Asia to step up and should be encouraging all of them to do so. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at the trajectories India and the USA are on. Which country is actually trying to improve? Which country is imploding from the inside? India is still operating rail systems installed by the British. Building a shitty carrier doesnt is mean they've made it. The country has huge problems. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:23:56 PM EDT
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Good for them. It's in our (those of us in the world that ain't China) best interests for this thing to be successful and combat capable.
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:25:24 PM EDT
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SIR YOUR POOP JOKES DO NOT CURRY FAVOR WITH ME
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:26:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: india will be the Italy of ww3. Incompetent and utterly humiliated lol They'll either be providing logistical support for the big boys when they slug it out, or they'll sit it out altogether. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:30:24 PM EDT
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And they're basically drifting it in the OP pic. Where's my Bender saying "neat" jpeg?
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:30:58 PM EDT
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Who knew India had such a big gay scene?
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:32:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: India had one modernish fleet carrier from the Brits but couldn't or wouldn't keep it running; and elected not to try to build their own. Good achievement with a native Kuznetsov clone, though - it probably runs better than the actual Kutznetsov. F18s need cats for useful loadouts. It'll be STOVL or STOBAR models of something. If the Indians can stick some arrestor wires on the INS Vikrant, they might be able to run either lightly loaded F18s, or useful payloads with immediate naval aerial refueling, if they have that capability. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: IIRC, they are planning on going the CATOBAR route with future designs. They operated CATOBAR carriers for decades. India had one modernish fleet carrier from the Brits but couldn't or wouldn't keep it running; and elected not to try to build their own. Good achievement with a native Kuznetsov clone, though - it probably runs better than the actual Kutznetsov. Quoted: Will they operate F18's off that boat or some version of Russian junk? F18s need cats for useful loadouts. It'll be STOVL or STOBAR models of something. If the Indians can stick some arrestor wires on the INS Vikrant, they might be able to run either lightly loaded F18s, or useful payloads with immediate naval aerial refueling, if they have that capability. Here is what the Indians fly. Not exactly our friends 
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Posted: 9/1/2022 2:41:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of all the Asian navies they have a blue water one and have the ability to project power beyond their shores. I really wouldn’t look down on them to much since they have a long history as a sea faring power that had a shit load of British influence in how they operate. This kind of comment is akin to how some in America look at the French military, like the Indian navy the French military is probably the best equipt and powerful maybe outside of the poles right now in Europe. The French domestic is generally fine but India has had numerous domestic production scandals. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 12:26:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Global superpowers use CATOBAR supercarriers. They burn big coal, too. It's kinda cute when the JV teams still put on a good show, though. No one calls carriers CATOBAR. No one in the Navy even uses that moronic name.   |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 12:27:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Will they operate F18's off that boat or some version of Russian junk? If they buy F-18's then they will operate them from that carrier.
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Posted: 9/2/2022 12:31:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: india will be the Italy of ww3. Incompetent and utterly humiliated lol They can't even produce a decent indigenous assault rifle. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 12:33:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: F18s need cats for useful loadouts. It'll be STOVL or STOBAR models of something. Fail. https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/boeing-hard-sells-f-a-18-super-hornet-to-indian-navy-for-ins-vikrant-122082401031_1.html The Indian Navy is looking at the F/A-18 Super Hornet and Rafale M. Boeing / The Navy sent a couple of F-18's to India for them to check out.  Two U.S. Navy F/A-18E Super Hornets completed multiple takeoffs from the runway at Hansa Naval Base (in the state of Goa, India) that is equipped with a Ski-Jump type inclined ramp, which emulates the flight deck of the Indian aircraft carrier INS Vikrant. Testing included roll-in and fly-in arrestments, as well as performance flights, in a variety of weights in the air-to-air, air-to-ground, and air-to-surface configurations, meeting the Indian Navy test requirements. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 12:42:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/2/2022 1:34:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia already clinched that position. They were incompetent and humiliated last time, and still won. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 1:36:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fail. https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/boeing-hard-sells-f-a-18-super-hornet-to-indian-navy-for-ins-vikrant-122082401031_1.html The Indian Navy is looking at the F/A-18 Super Hornet and Rafale M. Super Hornet launching from a ski jump carrier is either low on fuel or low on ordnance, compared to off a cat carrier. I don't even know if the super bug can launch from a ski jump with a full combat load, regardless of the gas onboard. Does India have sufficient aerial refueling capability to launch fully-armed (as fully as they can launch?) super bugs and top them up before they make their way to the op area? Can the Vikrant arrest and recover fully-armed CAP super bugs if they don't expend any ordnance during their mission? If the super bug can actually operate fully off a ski jump carrier, why are we (USA) even bothering with EMALS? |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 2:59:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Super Hornet launching from a ski jump carrier is either low on fuel or low on ordnance, compared to off a cat carrier. I don't even know if the super bug can launch from a ski jump with a full combat load, regardless of the gas onboard. Does India have sufficient aerial refueling capability to launch fully-armed (as fully as they can launch?) super bugs and top them up before they make their way to the op area? Can the Vikrant arrest and recover fully-armed CAP super bugs if they don't expend any ordnance during their mission? If the super bug can actually operate fully off a ski jump carrier, why are we (USA) even bothering with EMALS? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fail. https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/boeing-hard-sells-f-a-18-super-hornet-to-indian-navy-for-ins-vikrant-122082401031_1.html The Indian Navy is looking at the F/A-18 Super Hornet and Rafale M. Super Hornet launching from a ski jump carrier is either low on fuel or low on ordnance, compared to off a cat carrier. I don't even know if the super bug can launch from a ski jump with a full combat load, regardless of the gas onboard. Does India have sufficient aerial refueling capability to launch fully-armed (as fully as they can launch?) super bugs and top them up before they make their way to the op area? Can the Vikrant arrest and recover fully-armed CAP super bugs if they don't expend any ordnance during their mission? If the super bug can actually operate fully off a ski jump carrier, why are we (USA) even bothering with EMALS? This is a temporary solution. The MIG-29Ks they have are proving to be unreliable, at least according to India. They built another knock off of their Russian carrier and the F/A-18 or Rafale will fill an as an intern solution for the time being. The future is a carrier with a catapult and an Indian stealth fighter. I assume there will be some big delays but they want this stuff ready buy 2028. Will probably be the mid 30s though. How good will their own stuff be? Probably better than Russian. India has essentially banned importing of most military equipment. They're buying small amounts of foreign designs for the time being but they are working towards in country designs for everything going forward. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 3:15:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/2/2022 3:45:20 AM EDT
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Will there be so many people loaded on the flight deck that a plane wont be able to take off or land?
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Posted: 9/2/2022 4:06:20 AM EDT
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So I can assume it's hull number will be CV-711? It will be able to handle refueling and re armament as well as a large slurpie with a roller jerkie to go. Thank you, come again.
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Posted: 9/2/2022 4:18:19 AM EDT
[#43]
Hope it works better than Britain's new carrier.
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Posted: 9/2/2022 6:26:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you think India is an ally? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good for them. More allies with more capabilities surrounding China can't be a bad thing. Why do you think India is an ally? When did they become our friend? |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 6:40:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ski jump, not a real carrier. They will get there. Britain has one of those portable ski jumps too. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 6:43:30 AM EDT
[#46]
Interesting is the wake behind the ship. That appears to be a really tight turn for a carrier.
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Posted: 9/2/2022 8:12:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When did they become our friend? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good for them. More allies with more capabilities surrounding China can't be a bad thing. Why do you think India is an ally? When did they become our friend? They've been an ally. We've been trading and negotiating with enemies (Pakistan, Iran, etc) so they do the same. We've made some extremely stupid geopolitical decisions, that maybe if we were privy to specifics, we'd understand. As it is, we look two-faced. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 8:14:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good for them. More allies with more capabilities surrounding China can't be a bad thing. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 8:24:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting is the wake behind the ship. That appears to be a really tight turn for a carrier. Tiny ship. Probably set like that from the factory. They are on the phone with customer support right now trying to straighten it out. They probably left a styrofoam cube on the rudder when they took the ship out of the box. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 4:38:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, and they have actually fought the Chinese in recent years. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/01/russia-stages-scaled-down-war-games-with-china-india-a78694 Russia launched large-scale joint military exercises with China, India and several other countries in the Far East on Thursday, although they involved far fewer troops and hardware than in previous years amid Moscow’s six-month invasion of Ukraine. A total of 50,000 troops will take Vostok-2022 (East-2022) war games — compared to 300,000 who participated in the same drills four years ago. Vostok-2022 will also involve 140 warplanes and 5,000 pieces of military equipment, a fraction of the 1,000 military aircraft and 36,000 equipment seen in 2018. “This is going to be the smallest strategic-level exercise in years because the entire ground forces potential is engaged in operations in Ukraine,” Konrad Muzyka, director of the Poland-based Rochan military consultancy, told Reuters. |
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