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Posted: 2/28/2019 12:07:45 AM EDT

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You are correct, in my hurry I posted a bad pic, my apologies, but it still doesn't mean that the result wouldn't be bad on a global scale.

The worse part is that is what you are hung up on, not the massive casualties and nasty that will ensue.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:10:12 AM EDT

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The only really confirmed death toll they could ever come up with from Chernobyl was about 67 fatalities, and that includes the people who were at the site when it melted, the soldiers who shoveled away material from accident, and the helicopter pilots who hovered over the melted reactor.

And, as everyone else has been pointing out, there were LOTS of nuclear tests back in the day.

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So, NOW you believe Russian propaganda?

Funny world how when it suits you, it's correct.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:13:07 AM EDT

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Really?

Then explain the increased radiation signatures from a semi contained even like Chernobyl.

Instead, lets say a limited exchange ground/air burst event numbered at about 20 medium yield devices.

Prevailing wind currents, dust and particulate spread, and continuing fires.

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Who told you a burning exposed 1000 megawatt reactor was semi contained?

Far more fissile material is loaded into a power generation reactor than in a weapon. The daughter nucleotides in a reactor that has been running for a long time are probably far more dangerous than fallout.

Air burst weapons produce less fallout. Chernobyl happened once, the national test site saw dozens of above ground tests....in the continental US....upwind of most of the population. I'm not saying its harmless but it's not armageddon.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:13:57 AM EDT

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The "propaganda" from that area (near Chernobyl) blames every health problem imaginable on radiation, in attempts to get foreign aid.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:13:59 AM EDT

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You are correct, in my hurry I posted a bad pic, my apologies, but it still doesn't mean that the result wouldn't be bad on a global scale.

The worse part is that is what you are hung up on, not the massive casualties and nasty that will ensue.

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You are correct, in my hurry I posted a bad pic, my apologies, but it still doesn't mean that the result wouldn't be bad on a global scale.

The worse part is that is what you are hung up on, not the massive casualties and nasty that will ensue.

Nobody has any illusions about casualties or how bad it would be, welcome to 2019, people are used to seeing war in HD on their IPhone... people posting memes on an Internet forum rooting for war is the Internet equivalent of “the sky is blue”

Worry less about stupid shit other people is all I can tell you, or stay out of GD all togehter, it’s really simple.

I’m just gonna sit here and watch history on my iPhone

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:14:25 AM EDT

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“Listen, I know you and your families really want to go on living, but I’m afraid that some guys on the internet in America have decided this continent needs a reset. We regret to inform you you’re all getting nuked. Please feel free to “like” our Facebook page or follow us on Twitter.”

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:16:57 AM EDT

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And yet the ash from one volcano in Greenland shut down air traffic in almost all of Europe.

Imagine the dust and ash cloud from a limited strike by both sides.

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You do realize more than 500 have been detonated in open air right? More than 1000 counting underground tests?

And more than a few of those were ten times the yield of those in the paki and idian arsenals.

And yet the ash from one volcano in Greenland shut down air traffic in almost all of Europe.

Imagine the dust and ash cloud from a limited strike by both sides.

Look up the dust thrown up by even a small volcanic eruption compared to a nuke. Volcanoes laugh at particulate clouds from nukes. It's not even close.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:20:08 AM EDT

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For fuck's sake.
Can we start a new thread for this discussion?

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:21:27 AM EDT

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Look up the dust thrown up by even a small volcanic eruption compared to a nuke. Volcanoes laugh at particulate clouds from nukes. It's not even close.

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You do realize more than 500 have been detonated in open air right? More than 1000 counting underground tests?

And more than a few of those were ten times the yield of those in the paki and idian arsenals.

And yet the ash from one volcano in Greenland shut down air traffic in almost all of Europe.

Imagine the dust and ash cloud from a limited strike by both sides.

Look up the dust thrown up by even a small volcanic eruption compared to a nuke. Volcanoes laugh at particulate clouds from nukes. It's not even close.

The only reason people would talk about particulate from a nuke is because it's likely radioactive. California wildfires produce far more particulate every year than a bunch of nukes would.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:22:16 AM EDT

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For fuck's sake.
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Agreed. Let's get back to talking about India whooping the shit out of Pakistan, how the Mig-21 is still relevant in today's airspace, and what China will do in the aftermath.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:23:37 AM EDT

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For fuck's sake.
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Posted: 2/28/2019 12:27:29 AM EDT

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Thank you,

Both interesting topics.. separately.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:39:35 AM EDT

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Thank you.

Now back to who is shooting now......

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:40:21 AM EDT

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Really?

Then explain the increased radiation signatures from a semi contained even like Chernobyl.

Instead, lets say a limited exchange ground/air burst event numbered at about 20 medium yield devices.

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I love when people think they know how radiation works.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:41:04 AM EDT

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Or all the actors including John Wayne dying from lung cancer while filming a movie?

Here's the projections had Fukushima gone full bore melt down...

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19372/fu_jpg-860517.JPG

And what I was saying was more about the death toll rather than making people uncomfortable about having to leave their recliner here in the USA.

So, you folks are saying you're good with Millions dead as long as it's nothing more than a televised event for your entertainment?

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And this proves you don’t know shit.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:45:18 AM EDT

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Didnt I read in this thread that they are updated mig 21s with modern avionics, and helmet mounted queuing for the missiles? 21s cant turn with a viper but with off boresite heaters they don't always need to.

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2 vs 1 with the massive quality of pilot training going to India. I see it. Technology can only get you so far.

Didnt I read in this thread that they are updated mig 21s with modern avionics, and helmet mounted queuing for the missiles? 21s cant turn with a viper but with off boresite heaters they don't always need to.

Those upgrades keep them from being mere targets.
To put this into perspective, in the Vietnam war, MiG-21 were creaming bomb laden B-52’s and F-105 thuds.
F-4 Phantom’s on the other hand were murdering them after the addition of an onboard cannon. This is with the MiG-21 flying over friendly terrain, with ground control, and SAMs and AAA to pen the Phantoms in.

When the MiG-21 came out, they were very good planes. Their time in the sun ended a long time ago. It’s intake design is a evolutionary dead end, greatly hindering availible radars. It bleeds energy like an arterial bleed turning. Avionics upgrades can’t fix that.
You can only upgrade a gen 2 jet so much.
When you see reports of how surprised western pilots are, that is incomplete.

A better way to put it is that Western pilots are surprised that a late 1950’s design have a snowballs chance in hell.

There is a reason India is phasing them out, and they are considered their 3rd string fighters.

With only 18? F-16 C/D models, the F-16A is effectively Pakistan’s front line fighter.

It is very bad for them that India’s 3rd string are going tit for tat with their first string.

Posted: 2/28/2019 12:48:53 AM EDT

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Posted: 2/28/2019 12:58:36 AM EDT

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Posted: 2/28/2019 12:59:40 AM EDT

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Correct.

Lets do this.

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So, you folks are saying you're good with Millions dead as long as it's nothing more than a televised event for your entertainment?

Correct.

Lets do this.

So, basically, the Ultimate LiveLeak video.

Posted: 2/28/2019 1:01:27 AM EDT

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Posted: 2/28/2019 1:02:21 AM EDT

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It’s not like India has a track record of listening to us anyway. Sometimes but not always, so no guarantees even if we wanted them to

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Let's sit this one out...

War is better as a spectator.

It’s not like India has a track record of listening to us anyway. Sometimes but not always, so no guarantees even if we wanted them to

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Are we talking about foreign relations or call centers, as your statement seems equally applicable to both.

Posted: 2/28/2019 1:05:09 AM EDT

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I really can't see why so many are stroking their puds over this.

Mass casualties in the Millions in the first hours, at least triple that in the weeks and months to follow, radiation spreading through the whole Northern hemisphere, and the balance of powers in the whole region left up for grabs probably going to the goat fuckers in mud huts.

All so some of you can get your rocks off on a bright flash and YouTube videos.

Be careful of what you wish for!

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Posted: 2/28/2019 1:10:09 AM EDT

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Are we talking about foreign relations or call centers, as your statement seems equally applicable to both.

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Both but there’s been a few times where we really needed India in the past and they left us hanging. I’m less enamored of Indian IT than others in GD but I’m also not very fond of Silicon Valley either so....

Posted: 2/28/2019 1:11:01 AM EDT

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Thanks for proving me wrong (not).

Lots of name calling, nothing of substance.

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Ah, you're a boomer.

No further comment.

Thanks for proving me wrong (not).

Lots of name calling, nothing of substance.

The combined nuclear arsenals of India and Pakistan are less than the nuclear payload our own country has detonated above ground within the continental United States.

Ponder that for a bit.

Posted: 2/28/2019 1:15:55 AM EDT

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Are we talking about foreign relations or call centers, as your statement seems equally applicable to both.

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Attractive Indian women on the other hand

James Bond. Zoom On Her Boobs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UgsHqOWJx0

Posted: 2/28/2019 1:47:29 AM EDT

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Has India done the needful yet?

Posted: 2/28/2019 1:59:20 AM EDT

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Or all the actors including John Wayne dying from lung cancer while filming a movie?

Here's the projections had Fukushima gone full bore melt down...

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19372/fu_jpg-860517.JPG

And what I was saying was more about the death toll rather than making people uncomfortable about having to leave their recliner here in the USA.

So, you folks are saying you're good with Millions dead as long as it's nothing more than a televised event for your entertainment?

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Lol you people are still falling for that bull shit map? It takes 2 minutes of research to figure out that it is a fake. Why the fuck would radiation be measured in centimeters?
https://nctr.pmel.noaa.gov/honshu20110311/Energy_plot20110311_ok.jpg

Posted: 2/28/2019 2:02:17 AM EDT

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Lol you people are still falling for that bull shit map? It takes 2 minutes of research to figure out that it is a fake. Why the fuck would radiation be measured in centimeters?
https://nctr.pmel.noaa.gov/honshu20110311/Energy_plot20110311_ok.jpg

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Like I said, I apologized, plus there is a link to a different thread for arguing, let's keep this thread clean as the neutron driven flash.

Posted: 2/28/2019 2:05:14 AM EDT

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Pakistan has closed their airspace to commercial flights. The charter flight from Bagram to Kandahar then Dubai got grounded in Kandahar yesterday and is rumored to be returning to Bagram with all PAX this morning.

Routing a flight plan through Iran is iffy at best because last time that was tried the flight was forced to land and held for 13 hours on the tarmac in Iran.

I'm scheduled to fly from Bagram to Dubai this Sunday but it's looking pretty doubtful that will happen. Hoping the idiots in charge over here make the right call. Which would be to say fuck it and fly us to Istanbul and let us catch commercial commercial flights to CONUS from there.

However management here lacks the ability for critical thinking.

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Shit, sounds like you work for the same company I do. I’m based out of Kandahar but currently on TDY in Kuwait, likely to miss the shit show unless it pops off into the next couple of months when I’m scheduled to return.

Good luck getting out.

Posted: 2/28/2019 2:06:44 AM EDT

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Current air traffic from flight radar, does not include military traffic...

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Posted: 2/28/2019 2:15:50 AM EDT

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Posted: 2/28/2019 2:20:25 AM EDT

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Can someone explain why the hell india sent MIG 21's on this high stakes mission? They have full inventories of SU30's, MIG 29's, & Mirage 2000's.

Posted: 2/28/2019 2:25:18 AM EDT

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Can someone explain why the hell india sent MIG 21's on this high stakes mission? They have full inventories of SU30's, MIG 29's, & Mirage 2000's.

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Cheap planes and expendable people?

Good test against another countries air defense network.

Save the good stuff for later (plus confusing defending air assets).

Old Combloc ploy.

Posted: 2/28/2019 2:49:05 AM EDT

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Can someone explain why the hell india sent MIG 21's on this high stakes mission? They have full inventories of SU30's, MIG 29's, & Mirage 2000's.

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Who wouldn't trade a MIG 21 for one F-16?

Why send top shelf when well drinks splash your nemesis?

Posted: 2/28/2019 2:51:39 AM EDT

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France is sending their carrier to the Indian Ocean but I think that’s part of a already scheduled South China Sea mission

Posted: 2/28/2019 6:05:03 AM EDT

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The combined nuclear arsenals of India and Pakistan are less than the nuclear payload our own country has detonated above ground within the continental United States.

Ponder that for a bit.

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Ah, you're a boomer.

No further comment.

Thanks for proving me wrong (not).

Lots of name calling, nothing of substance.

The combined nuclear arsenals of India and Pakistan are less than the nuclear payload our own country has detonated above ground within the continental United States.

Ponder that for a bit.

Just one nuke pop up in the region is enough for mass panic and close to billion number of refugees. It will be worst than gamma rays .I have no idea how you don't realise that .

Posted: 2/28/2019 6:16:51 AM EDT

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Just one nuke pop up in the region is enough for mass panic and close to billion number of refugees. It will be worst than gamma rays .I have no idea how you don't realise that .

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Ah, you're a boomer.

No further comment.

Thanks for proving me wrong (not).

Lots of name calling, nothing of substance.

The combined nuclear arsenals of India and Pakistan are less than the nuclear payload our own country has detonated above ground within the continental United States.

Ponder that for a bit.

Just one nuke pop up in the region is enough for mass panic and close to billion number of refugees. It will be worst than gamma rays .I have no idea how you don't realise that .

And?

Do a little math and figure out who is going to get swamped with those starving refugees. It isn't going to be the country with two oceans in between here and there...

I see sending hoardes of starving refugees into China and Iran as a solution, not a problem...

Posted: 2/28/2019 7:52:28 AM EDT

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BREAKING: Pakistan is "ready to consider" release of captured Indian pilot "if it allows for a de-escalation". — Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi #India #Pakistan
Kashmir Intel (@KashmirIntel) February 28, 2019

This move comes right before the Indian army's press conference. Let's see if their narrative evolves, or if we are still to expect further aggression. It will be clear in another couple of minutes.
— Mehr Sher (@musher_01) February 28, 2019

LATEST: Joint Indian Military press conference postponed to 7pm (Delhi time - GMT+5:30).

The military reportedly need to update their messaging in light of the Wing Commander Abhinandan release announcement.

All via @ShivAroor
Henry Jones (@hthjones) February 28, 2019

Posted: 2/28/2019 8:00:44 AM EDT

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ETA....late to that party. Deleted.

Posted: 2/28/2019 8:09:28 AM EDT

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Pakistani PM Khan to call Indian PM Modi today, also Indian pilot to be released by Pakistan tomorrow, Indian military press conference postponed and power point no longer to be shown to media, plus airspace over Pakistan to re-open tomorrow at 1pm local.
ELINT News (@ELINTNews) February 28, 2019

Posted: 2/28/2019 8:09:30 AM EDT

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BREAKING: Pakistan is "ready to consider" release of captured Indian pilot "if it allows for a de-escalation". — Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi #India #Pakistan
Kashmir Intel (@KashmirIntel) February 28, 2019

This move comes right before the Indian army's press conference. Let's see if their narrative evolves, or if we are still to expect further aggression. It will be clear in another couple of minutes.
— Mehr Sher (@musher_01) February 28, 2019

LATEST: Joint Indian Military press conference postponed to 7pm (Delhi time - GMT+5:30).

The military reportedly need to update their messaging in light of the Wing Commander Abhinandan release announcement.

All via @ShivAroor
Henry Jones (@hthjones) February 28, 2019

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So no one is gonna sprout mushrooms over here. Sounds good to me.

Posted: 2/28/2019 8:13:14 AM EDT

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Huh...India must have been doing something that convinced the ISI that they weren't kidding. The Pakis blinked hard.

Wonder if India just says fuck it...we moved everything around already..let's do this this.

Posted: 2/28/2019 8:16:24 AM EDT

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And yet the ash from one volcano in Greenland shut down air traffic in almost all of Europe.

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So volcanos = atomic weapons now?

Who knew?

Posted: 2/28/2019 8:17:32 AM EDT

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Both sides have been pressured to tone it down. It's likely over.

Posted: 2/28/2019 8:28:52 AM EDT

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Can someone explain why the hell india sent MIG 21's on this high stakes mission? They have full inventories of SU30's, MIG 29's, & Mirage 2000's.

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The closest air Base hosts MiG-21s,this is the easy answer. Said MiG-21s have been upgraded about as much as they can be so they are at least on par and mostly superior to the bulk of the Paki AF which is still old Mirage IIIs and Vs and Chinese MiG-21s.

India has been trying to replace the MiGs for a while but they're India and decided to piss time and money away on the Tejas and blow the opportunity to produce both the Mirage 2000 and Rafale because they wanted France to take responsibility for aircraft they had completed,hopefully the US isn't this stupid when it comes to F-16 production or F-21 if they stick with calling it that.

Posted: 2/28/2019 8:35:52 AM EDT

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Sorry everyone, thanks for playing. Pack it up and go home.

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Posted: 2/28/2019 8:46:05 AM EDT

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For fuck's sake.
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Yeah enough nukes and arguing about them. I am here for news about the situation.

Posted: 2/28/2019 8:56:07 AM EDT

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Yeah enough nukes and arguing about them. I am here for news about the situation.

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Calm down. This is GD...shit wanders around a bit.

Update: India was about slap the paks across the face with a curry covered dick...the paks said "oh shit... they really might do it this time" and are now doing everything they can to prevent said curry dicking...

There...you're up to speed..happy?

Posted: 2/28/2019 9:16:20 AM EDT

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Pakistani PM Khan to call Indian PM Modi today, also Indian pilot to be released by Pakistan tomorrow, Indian military press conference postponed and power point no longer to be shown to media, plus airspace over Pakistan to re-open tomorrow at 1pm local.
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It's Happ.....Its not happening.

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