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Link Posted: 1/22/2022 12:59:34 AM EDT
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Low IQ folks like to do low IQ stuff..  
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 1:01:29 AM EDT
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If you can agree that the feds have a poor history of accidentally on purpose infiltrating and egging idiots like these on, I think we have achieved some kind of agreement.
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As I said, my issue is people here pretending like they don't exist.


If you can agree that the feds have a poor history of accidentally on purpose infiltrating and egging idiots like these on, I think we have achieved some kind of agreement.
Yes, they do. A long history of it. That is much different than the feds creating a group out of thin air as has been claimed here, repeatedly.
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The better option is not to hang out with people that want to overthrow the government and replace it with a fascist state. YMMV.
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Neo Nazis.

Sure.

All these raids and prosecutions do is prove the need to keep your tribe close and keep your shit off the internet. Don't trust anyone you can't drink with, and don't post anything online that would come back to bite you.
There really haven't been any raids or prosecutions of Patriot Front (I think). They occasionally get arrested for graffiti and vandalism.

Course if your "tribe" is a bunch of  Neo Nazis you're eventually going to come on the Feds radar ie Randy Weaver.


I was referring to raids and prosecutions of patriot groups in general.

You don't need to be actual Seig Heiling Nazis to be Nazis. Just don't be liberal vermin and you'll get called you a Nazi in due course.

Keep your shit off the Internet and vet your people. Make sure they're real and legit people and not liberal or fedgov cockroaches and rats before you start discussing sensitive topics.

Some things you only discuss in meatspace with people you trust.
The better option is not to hang out with people that want to overthrow the government and replace it with a fascist state. YMMV.


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Western governments are already fascist states
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 1:19:37 AM EDT
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What do you think happens when a Federal agent eventually gets outed as having painted swastikas over gay pride murals?
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The same thing they get for trying to kidnap a governor?
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My fear is any conservative group (like this website) could easily have a few questionable members.  Glow boys figure out who they can manipulate, then they can attack the entire group.
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My fear is any conservative group (like this website) could easily have a few questionable members.  Glow boys figure out who they can manipulate, then they can attack the entire group.
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That is a very valid fear, and why it is so important to make it clear that those kinds of people have no place here.
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Ballsy, theft of classified FBI docs is taken pretty seriously.
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What do you think happens when a Federal agent eventually gets outed as having painted swastikas over gay pride murals? In the real world that's something that will come out and will end careers.

Besides they have the names of people involved, photos.

Takes a pretty serious suspension of disbelief, but then we had people here believing pizzagate and all that nonsense about child kidnapping
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"No fed would paint swastikas." That's cute.

You really think the CIA and other alphabet agencies wouldn't engage in such activity?

You're either naive or....


What do you think happens when a Federal agent eventually gets outed as having painted swastikas over gay pride murals? In the real world that's something that will come out and will end careers.

Besides they have the names of people involved, photos.

Takes a pretty serious suspension of disbelief, but then we had people here believing pizzagate and all that nonsense about child kidnapping

Sounds just like what one of them would say.
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Apparently not. I guess someone changed "traditional conservative values" to include tacit support for fascist totalitarians who want to dissolve the government, do away with the constitution, abrogate individual rights to the state and have the country ruled by a white nationalist dictator.  Can someone send me a copy of the memo where conservatives decided to support that?
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Those people are leftists.
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 2:05:02 AM EDT
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Man, lots of . . . I'm not even sure how to describe what I'm seeing here.


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Have we forgotten that Ray Epps is on video urging people to join Patriot Front?

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Lol is he really?
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Man, lots of . . . I'm not even sure how to describe what I'm seeing here.


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Fear, is I guess the closest thing I can come up with. Lots of fear here.
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 3:20:09 AM EDT
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Antifa uncovered one of the Nazis in Wa. They have photos of him

https://wanaziwatch.com/james-julius-johnson/

interesting discussion about head jerk off Rouseau not wanting them to carry guns or shoot together and the wa Nazis making printed firearms

there's also photos of them engaging in vandalism with spray paint and discussion of them hanging a fascist flag over an fbi billboard.  Feds aren't  spraying racist messages and posing with Nazi flags

Rousseau also tries to make the other Nazis buy stickers from him at a mark up but the rascals have been making their own. Sounds like putting up stickers is one of the things they're told to do
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From the quick glance of the videos and statements, new guys had to put up stickers, probably even spray paint and hang up banners which there are multiple videos of them doing said activities without any face masks. They drill together, and spar. Dudes out scouting what seems like public meeting locations and so forth.
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Fear, is I guess the closest thing I can come up with. Lots of fear here.
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Man, lots of . . . I'm not even sure how to describe what I'm seeing here.


Fear, is I guess the closest thing I can come up with. Lots of fear here.


Quite an effect 1-6 is having.
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Even if PF is real, so what?  They have done nothing else but photo op shit for the media.  THAT is the uncomfortable truth.

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Where does McVeigh fall on that spectrum
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Clearly anything bad that's associated with the right is undercover FBI or antifa because the real patriots are too busy being shitposting edgelords in their mom's basement.

Where does McVeigh fall on that spectrum

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What do you think happens when a Federal agent eventually gets outed as having painted swastikas over gay pride murals? In the real world that's something that will come out and will end careers.

Besides they have the names of people involved, photos.

Takes a pretty serious suspension of disbelief, but then we had people here believing pizzagate and all that nonsense about child kidnapping
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"No fed would paint swastikas." That's cute.

You really think the CIA and other alphabet agencies wouldn't engage in such activity?

You're either naive or....


What do you think happens when a Federal agent eventually gets outed as having painted swastikas over gay pride murals? In the real world that's something that will come out and will end careers.

Besides they have the names of people involved, photos.

Takes a pretty serious suspension of disbelief, but then we had people here believing pizzagate and all that nonsense about child kidnapping



Sure hope my sarcasm meter is broke. Cause that’s
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 5:05:15 AM EDT
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And that makes it ok?  Some of Patriot Front's core values are the destruction of the constitution, the installation of a dictator and people subjugating their individual rights to the state.  Are you ok with having those people on the right?
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What are you gonna do, police all the political parties in the US that you disagree with?


Are they doing something illegal? If so, report it to your local police or FBI.
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 5:08:39 AM EDT
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Even if PF is real, so what?  They have done nothing else but photo op shit for the media.  THAT is the uncomfortable truth.

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So no one will mind the next time they show up, they get their asses beaten into the pavement?

Kind of hard for anyone to disagree with stomping fascists into the asphalt, well, except the people running the op.
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 5:26:17 AM EDT
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We're gonna need some new FBI guys.jpg
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The better option is not to hang out with people that want to overthrow the government and replace it with a fascist state.
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But you hang out here in GD.
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The hacked info on patriot front has videos of them spray painting swastikas and putting up signs and stickers. No Fed is going to engage in painting swastikas, you'd be better off running a kiddie porn site (which the Feds actually did after hijacking a kiddie porn site, the scum)

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They may not themselves, but they're certainly not above convincing the legitimately mentally retarded members of their group to kidnap the governor of Michigan spray paint swastikas and put up signs and stickers.
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 7:37:30 AM EDT
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My fear is any conservative group (like this website) could easily have a few questionable members.  Glow boys figure out who they can manipulate, then they can attack the entire group.
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My fear is any conservative group (like this website) could easily have a few questionable members.  Glow boys figure out who they can manipulate, then they can attack the entire group.


There very clearly are questionable members here...

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What do you think happens when a Federal agent eventually gets outed as having painted swastikas over gay pride murals? instigated a terrorist attack in Garland Texas. In the real world that's something that will come out and will end careers.


Hmmm, I wonder.

You should also stop using the term "hate crime" because it lends legitimacy to the idea that certain crimes are more criminal because he perpetrator held certain (non-state approved) beliefs.
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But you hang out here in GD.
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The better option is not to hang out with people that want to overthrow the government and replace it with a fascist state.

But you hang out here in GD.

Link Posted: 1/22/2022 8:17:52 AM EDT
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Idiots

First off aimless is brainless, that goes for the rest of you

You know nothing of what you are saying

There is no safe tribe, no group is safe beyond 3-4 cell members. This has been proven in other countries. That is why they are terrified of lone wolves,  hard to infiltrate 3-4 person cells.
Do your research, simple the info is out there free

Until you do, Don't type another sentence

Oh I despise Nazi's & Communist

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First off aimless is brainless, that goes for the rest of you

You know nothing of what you are saying

There is no safe tribe, no group is safe beyond 3-4 cell members. This has been proven in other countries. That is why they are terrified of lone wolves,  hard to infiltrate 3-4 person cells.
Do your research, simple the info is out there free

Until you do, Don't type another sentence

Oh I despise Nazi's & Communist

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My research tells me that fear is not the answer.
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The better option is not to hang out with people that want to overthrow the government and replace it with a fascist state. YMMV.
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Neo Nazis.

Sure.

All these raids and prosecutions do is prove the need to keep your tribe close and keep your shit off the internet. Don't trust anyone you can't drink with, and don't post anything online that would come back to bite you.
There really haven't been any raids or prosecutions of Patriot Front (I think). They occasionally get arrested for graffiti and vandalism.

Course if your "tribe" is a bunch of  Neo Nazis you're eventually going to come on the Feds radar ie Randy Weaver.


I was referring to raids and prosecutions of patriot groups in general.

You don't need to be actual Seig Heiling Nazis to be Nazis. Just don't be liberal vermin and you'll get called you a Nazi in due course.

Keep your shit off the Internet and vet your people. Make sure they're real and legit people and not liberal or fedgov cockroaches and rats before you start discussing sensitive topics.

Some things you only discuss in meatspace with people you trust.
The better option is not to hang out with people that want to overthrow the government and replace it with a fascist state. YMMV.



BLM? Antifa?
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 8:49:21 AM EDT
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The uncomfortable reality is that there are racists, fascists and assorted other shitbags that self-identify as being right wing.
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The level of fantasy people are willing to engage in here to avoid facing uncomfortable realities is truly fascinating.

What "uncomfortable reality"?  That every terrorist plot foiled by the FBI involved two or three room-temp IQ types being egged on by Feds?
The uncomfortable reality is that there are racists, fascists and assorted other shitbags that self-identify as being right wing.



there are racists, fascists and assorted other shitbags that self-identify as being left-wing.

And they are held up as bastions of freedom and righteous wrath. That's the uncomfortable reality.
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Then those people are the left-wing's problem. The right wing needs to deal with our shitbag problem.
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The level of fantasy people are willing to engage in here to avoid facing uncomfortable realities is truly fascinating.

What "uncomfortable reality"?  That every terrorist plot foiled by the FBI involved two or three room-temp IQ types being egged on by Feds?
The uncomfortable reality is that there are racists, fascists and assorted other shitbags that self-identify as being right wing.


More identify as left wing.
Then those people are the left-wing's problem. The right wing needs to deal with our shitbag problem.



the Left is going to police itself? Hahahaha!!!!
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And that makes it ok?  Some of Patriot Front's core values are the destruction of the constitution, the installation of a dictator and people subjugating their individual rights to the state.  Are you ok with having those people on the right?
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The level of fantasy people are willing to engage in here to avoid facing uncomfortable realities is truly fascinating.

What "uncomfortable reality"?  That every terrorist plot foiled by the FBI involved two or three room-temp IQ types being egged on by Feds?
The uncomfortable reality is that there are racists, fascists and assorted other shitbags that self-identify as being right wing.

So?

Most identity as male, too.  And white.

I didn't know only the Ideologically Pure could vote for Republican candidates.  Democrats have had no problem courting Black Panthers and all sorts of unsavory characters.
And that makes it ok?  Some of Patriot Front's core values are the destruction of the constitution, the installation of a dictator and people subjugating their individual rights to the state.  Are you ok with having those people on the right?


Antifa

You single out the outlier on the right and pronounce it as the norm. While on the Left the people who are actually doing this (BLM, Antifa, etc.) are accepted as legitimate within the halls of government, the media, academia...

Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?

Your framing is strange.
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the Left is going to police itself? Hahahaha!!!!
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The level of fantasy people are willing to engage in here to avoid facing uncomfortable realities is truly fascinating.

What "uncomfortable reality"?  That every terrorist plot foiled by the FBI involved two or three room-temp IQ types being egged on by Feds?
The uncomfortable reality is that there are racists, fascists and assorted other shitbags that self-identify as being right wing.


More identify as left wing.
Then those people are the left-wing's problem. The right wing needs to deal with our shitbag problem.



the Left is going to police itself? Hahahaha!!!!

The thing I find most amusing is Theodoric calling himself right wing.  Nothing I see him post says right wing.  He uses Antifa language and either glows or is a lefty.
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 There are probably a dozen who have read this thread already
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Which reminds me, I haven’t heard Jack squat about Antifa stirring up anything lately.
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The thing I find most amusing is Theodoric calling himself right wing.  Nothing I see him post says right wing.  He uses Antifa language and either glows or is a lefty.
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The level of fantasy people are willing to engage in here to avoid facing uncomfortable realities is truly fascinating.

What "uncomfortable reality"?  That every terrorist plot foiled by the FBI involved two or three room-temp IQ types being egged on by Feds?
The uncomfortable reality is that there are racists, fascists and assorted other shitbags that self-identify as being right wing.


More identify as left wing.
Then those people are the left-wing's problem. The right wing needs to deal with our shitbag problem.



the Left is going to police itself? Hahahaha!!!!

The thing I find most amusing is Theodoric calling himself right wing.  Nothing I see him post says right wing.  He uses Antifa language and either glows or is a lefty.



I love the statement of his ancestors fighting fascists. Stalin smiles.
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"Hate crime" is a law that (usually) moves  a crime up a category or otherwise allows the prosecution of a misdemeanor as a felony or moves a low level felony "up
the ladder" You can object to them but they exist and that's what they're called.

Does that mean that these otherwise harmless scumbags should be treated more harshly for their swastika painting than antifa painting acab on police stations? NY has a specific swastika law that applies to public property. Why isn't someone who paints other racist symbols treated similarly? (Admittedly there are probably 100 swastikas for every al queda graffiti)

edit a better example is NY's prohibition on burning crosses. You can't even burn a cross on your own property if it is visible. How is that constitutional? Racists can't burn crosses on their own lawn?

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"Hate crime" is a concept that is antithetical to freedom of association, equal protection, and freedom of speech. The government is always looking for ways to up the ante on certain criminals because of who they are, compared to others accused of the same crime. Look at how bond has been set for different demographics in this country lately.

Murdering someone is wrong. It isn't more wrong if you did it because the person was a certain color than it is if you did it for no reason at all. The act is the crime, your personal thoughts and beliefs are not.

Hate speech is a similar idea.
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American GIs and British soldiers in WW2 fighting Germans and Italian fascists.  As a Nazi sympathizer, I presume you think that was wrong?
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I love the statement of his ancestors fighting fascists. Stalin smiles.

American GIs and British soldiers in WW2 fighting Germans and Italian fascists.  As a Nazi sympathizer, I presume you think that was wrong?


See you just never learned to use the right language before you came here to be one of us.

We don't call people fascists all the time.  It's not a normal right wing term.  It's a left wing term.  Your continuous use of it shows you ain't one of us Comrade.
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Ayup. There are no crazy white people, and you’re a communist if you believe otherwise.
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Ayup.
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Why are members here trying to associate this group with the right?

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Narratives.

Guilting.

Shaming.

Reframing.

Deflection.

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The Feds released info on a fed organization full of feds. Got it.

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Saw a bunch of quotes in this thread that didn't make sense.

Realized that the ignored gray bars are now smaller and harder to notice.

Remembered why they were ignored, and the poster hasn't changed much.

Realized that the trolls are maybe closer aligned with site staff than I thought, and maybe that's why trolls are Still trolling while valuable long-timers get the boot.

Realized that my renewal is next week.
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? You are always putting up the good fight for oppressors and 'anti-fascists' in the public eye on here (Leftist causes).

I never said anything in any thread in support of Nazis or Commies.

What I've done is simply pointed out your inconsistencies with crying about the outliers on the right while giving tacit approval for same on the Left (which is magnitudes larger than those that exist on the Right). You are very inconsistent and disingenuous...dishonest...
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I love the statement of his ancestors fighting fascists. Stalin smiles.

American GIs and British soldiers in WW2 fighting Germans and Italian fascists.


? You are always putting up the good fight for oppressors and 'anti-fascists' in the public eye on here (Leftist causes).

I never said anything in any thread in support of Nazis or Commies.

What I've done is simply pointed out your inconsistencies with crying about the outliers on the right while giving tacit approval for same on the Left (which is magnitudes larger than those that exist on the Right). You are very inconsistent and disingenuous...dishonest...
Pot meet kettle since you seem intent on calling me a communist. I don't support the left at all, but I also don't support people on the right who hold values that are inconsistent with constitutional principles and the principles of freedom and basic god-given rights. Fascists are totalitarian assholes whose goal is to limit freedom and the constitution. Ergo, I disagree with them.  We don't live in a black and white world where everyone that claims to be "on the right" deserves a defense just because they claim to be on our side. We live in a complicated world where the collection of ideologies on the right include things that people that believe in freedom rightly disagree with.  I, for one, believe that those ideologies are inconsistent with liberty and that they should be shunned.
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