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Posted: 1/1/2022 9:50:45 PM EST
That’s one hell of a punishment.
 I’m watching 60 Days In and a participant got thrown in the hole. They brought him sticky buns and other shit that he ordered. So fucked up… |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 9:53:10 PM EST
[#1]
What's fucked up is the laws that put them in prison. If you cannot be free then society has no purpose for you.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 9:55:18 PM EST
[#2]
I did recently hear they can't buy batteries when in the hole so they'd stock up before hand because they have to be given most of their stuff when they go. Smart thinking to buy batteries before you assault guards or inmates, and they say criminals are impulsive and don't plan ahead.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 9:56:11 PM EST
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Differs by state I'm sure but commissary privileges are one of the first things stripped by disciplinary process in many states. Along with telephone, radio, etc.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 9:57:27 PM EST
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Sometimes I think I would do well in solidarity confinement. As long as I had some books to read, I'd be fine. It'd be better than being around all the other criminals.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:02:01 PM EST
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Hygiene items, writing paper, flexible pen for writing only. The also have to be placed in the hole for a while to buy from the commissary....they get to take some items from their property pack up when placed in seg...only above mentioned stuff along with some clothing
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:02:03 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes I think I would do well in solidarity confinement. As long as I had some books to read, I'd be fine. It'd be better than being around all the other criminals. Same here. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:02:03 PM EST
[#7]
Depends on why they’re in there among other things. In MO DoC, supermax offenders can get normal commissary and even have electronics, and make honor status while still being in isolation.
Guys thrown in segregation for disciplinary reasons in lower level camps usually have a cellmate, and can get hygiene items from commissary, but they can’t get food, tobacco, etc. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:04:34 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes I think I would do well in solidarity confinement. As long as I had some books to read, I'd be fine. It'd be better than being around all the other criminals. After multiple stays in solitary they told him all his violations were lengthening his prison stay. 
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:06:59 PM EST
[#9]
Wes says you put in the work, even in solitary.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:09:14 PM EST
[#10]
I personally believe all jail/prison sentences should be in solitary confinement. The length of the sentence should be reduced, on average, to approximately 1/3 of what we give now. The only exception should be for murder, kidnapping and rape.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:10:05 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes I think I would do well in solidarity confinement. As long as I had some books to read, I'd be fine. It'd be better than being around all the other criminals. Prison is like anyplace else. I met some decent fellows who just fucked up big time. I flat out asked one dude why he was in, because he was smart, well mannered, educated, good looking. I knew his crime, he was down for kidnapping and assault with a deadly weapon, but that’s not the same as knowing his story. His answer, “troutbum86, I’m a sunuvabitch when I’m on dope.” |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:10:25 PM EST
[#12]
Some do, some don't. I assume most don't.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:10:36 PM EST
[#13]
Commissary is usually limited in SHU/SEG/Isolation....one thing worth bearing in mind....If a honey bun will shut an inmate up and make a difference between them flooding their cell or gassing an officer or anything else....I have no issue with the inmate purchasing a damn honey bun...It's not like they're supplied to the inmate free of charge
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:11:20 PM EST
[#14]
If you order commissary then go to solitary, you only get hygiene items until you’re out of solitary.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:13:14 PM EST
[#15]
I wish they put me in solitary when I was in jail, if there was an option to be put in one without having to beat someone up I'd take it. Being stuck in a cell with 20 other inmates is one of the worst experiences of my life, hell is truly other people.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:17:24 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes I think I would do well in solidarity confinement. As long as I had some books to read, I'd be fine. It'd be better than being around all the other criminals. It won't be enough, we only got two books a week in jail. And I'm a fast reader and could read through Red Storm Rising in less than a day, ended up having to trade most of my food to the other inmates to get me books to read. The only thing that can keep you sane is by having a really good imagination to live out your memories in your head, I spent many many hours imagining I was still shitposting on the internet and making a list of topic thread ideas to make once I got out. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:18:37 PM EST
[#17]
I had a Captain at one facility that I worked at who told me that convicted inmates we're already being punished for their crimes by losing some of their rights and freedoms and that they shouldn't be unduly punished any more than that. Later found out that that was bullshit too. Most convicted inmates are narcissists and sociopaths and there's just no getting around that. Substantial numbers of inmates as most know ARE the dregs of society with little interest in real and lasting rehabilitation. The way that it is.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:21:48 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. You'd be wrong....It's not like getting to spend time alone to catch up on reading...There's no TV...very little time for rec....It stinks..other inmates are yelling, screaming..you can't see anything that's going on, your social interaction consists of being fed through a slot in the door and having a flashlight shined in your face every 30 minutes, day or night..you have one sheet, and one blanket...no pillow...Your concept of time is all fucked up...It is a complete mind fuck...you'll pace the floor in your cell for hours....lay down and sleep....and repeat the process over and over....hypersomnolence and insomnia are both very possible....you don't even have control over whether or not your lights are on in the cell.....you absolutely WILL be psychologically damaged...these dudes spend weeks/months or years locked up like this for one reason or another and they just can't function any other way....Their letters out and phone calls are usually incoherent rambling....the shit is wild....so no.....you wouldn't like it, you would far prefer the company of other inmates....and you would quickly give up giving a shit why they were there |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:22:19 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish they put me in solitary when I was in jail, if there was an option to be put in one without having to beat someone up I'd take it. Being stuck in a cell with 20 other inmates is one of the worst experiences of my life, hell is truly other people. What put you there? My guess is woman or self defense shooting. Of course you don’t need to reveal either as I’m only curious. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:23:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'd be wrong....It's not like getting to spend time alone to catch up on reading...There's no TV...very little time for rec....It stinks..other inmates are yelling, screaming..you can't see anything that's going on, your social interaction consists of being fed through a slot in the door and having a flashlight shined in your face every 30 minutes, day or night..you have one sheet, and one blanket...no pillow...Your concept of time is all fucked up...It is a complete mind fuck...you'll pace the floor in your cell for hours....lay down and sleep....and repeat the process over and over....hypersomnolence and insomnia are both very possible....you don't even have control over whether or not your lights are on in the cell.....you absolutely WILL be psychologically damaged...these dudes spend weeks/months or years locked up like this for one reason or another and they just can't function any other way....Their letters out and phone calls are usually incoherent rambling....the shit is wild....so no.....you wouldn't like it, you would far prefer the company of other inmates....and you would quickly give up giving a shit why they were there You know zero about me. I understand your speculation though. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:23:56 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What put you there? My guess is woman or self defense shooting. Of course you don’t need to reveal either as I’m only curious. no, just a dumb traffic violation that got me a month in jail. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:25:31 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know zero about me. I understand your speculation though. I don't need to know about you....I literally watch this shit break people every single day.....you're no different....It would destroy anyone |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:27:25 PM EST
[#23]
One could guess its part of a morale booster. Decent food might prevent inmates from lashing out at staff or stupid antics.
A couple guys I know have done time in local county jail, and both said Sunday morning was the time to be there, because they got served 'cakes and flakes'. A little debbie snack and and a single box of cornflakes was enough to make for a good day apparently. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:29:32 PM EST
[#24]
Quoted: That’s one hell of a punishment. I’m watching 60 Days In and a participant got thrown in the hole. They brought him sticky buns and other shit that he ordered. So fucked up… The hole is supposed to be the most secure unit in an institution, so most items you'd get in general population are restricted. Of course it depends on the system, local, state, federal or whatever. Some institutions take the idea that the hole shouldn't be too comfortable or it won't be a deterrent. Others might consider it a management tool and use it as an incentive for good behavior while in the hole, to be taken away if they act up. Not everyone goes there for getting into trouble either, which is worth mentioning if you consider how policies are written. Sometimes someone is threatened, assaulted, or something along those lines to which they were not at fault. Of course the opposite is true for others. If you break rules and act stupid, you'll end up there and catch a discipline case. Generally, the ones who can behave will get more privileges and the ones who don't will have more restrictions. Pretty basic concept. That being said, inmates are known to be resourceful when using basic items to get into trouble. You can light a fire with a couple batteries, make homemade booze with certain food items, and so on. Keep that in mind if you hear about institutions that have restrictive policies. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:30:15 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You'd be wrong....It's not like getting to spend time alone to catch up on reading...There's no TV...very little time for rec....It stinks..other inmates are yelling, screaming..you can't see anything that's going on, your social interaction consists of being fed through a slot in the door and having a flashlight shined in your face every 30 minutes, day or night..you have one sheet, and one blanket...no pillow...Your concept of time is all fucked up...It is a complete mind fuck...you'll pace the floor in your cell for hours....lay down and sleep....and repeat the process over and over....hypersomnolence and insomnia are both very possible....you don't even have control over whether or not your lights are on in the cell.....you absolutely WILL be psychologically damaged...these dudes spend weeks/months or years locked up like this for one reason or another and they just can't function any other way....Their letters out and phone calls are usually incoherent rambling....the shit is wild....so no.....you wouldn't like it, you would far prefer the company of other inmates....and you would quickly give up giving a shit why they were there What you describe sounds like more of a psych ward then a regular prison with actual convicts. I've seen dudes (gang member/murder charge type stuff) spend a ton of time in solitary and they read books, call their family, listen to the radio, and do rec. And they're fine. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:30:27 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't need to know about you....I literally watch this shit break people every single day.....you're no different....It would destroy anyone lol |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:31:23 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't need to know about you....I literally watch this shit break people every single day.....you're no different....It would destroy anyone What kind of joint? |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:32:17 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: the shit is wild....so no.....you wouldn't like it, you would far prefer the company of other inmates....and you would quickly give up giving a shit why they were there fuck no, it's like being in an overcrowded aquarium full of hungry fish that keep on nipping on each other. I got to see first hand how that worked, the strongest inmates would bully and wear the weakest ones slowly but surely. I was lucky I wasn't, the poor bastard that got the brunt of the bullying was in jail just because he couldn't pay child support. They'd take his food, fuck with him while sleeping and make thinly veiled threats of rape. And if you try to fight back they'd just beat the shit out of you, saw that happen with a new guy who got his jaw broken only two days after. The guys that attack you won't give a shit if they get their sentences extended for attacking you because it earns them more respect from the other bullies. Fuck that, solitary might be shitty for different reasons but at least you won't have to worry about someone attacking you anymore. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:33:03 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes I think I would do well in solidarity confinement. As long as I had some books to read, I'd be fine. It'd be better than being around all the other criminals. Yep, I'd rather be in solitary away from the scum so I can preserve my anal virginity! |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:33:04 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What kind of joint? Fed joint...all custody levels.. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:34:59 PM EST
[#31]
Former corrections here.
Solitary is one of the worst things that you could go through. If you're a rapeo or murderer than fuck you. If you fight than fuck you. But Johnny drunk driver and little thiefs shouldn't get it, you will go crazy. Funny thing if you are an MHU, mental health classification you usually wind up there. So take someone who's crazy, and make them more crazy. And when they get out they're fucked in the head beyond saving. They're back out in society and will offend real quick. Everyone is one bad choice away from a correction facilty.. One choice. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:37:01 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't need to know about you....I literally watch this shit break people every single day.....you're no different....It would destroy anyone Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You know zero about me. I understand your speculation though. I don't need to know about you....I literally watch this shit break people every single day.....you're no different....It would destroy anyone I found that most inmates that I had any personal knowledge of were weak as individuals and ran their lives according to pack mentality and have very little moral turpitude whatsoever. In general, to trust an inmate on almost any level would be a recipe for certain disaster. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:41:31 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One could guess its part of a morale booster. Decent food might prevent inmates from lashing out at staff or stupid antics. A couple guys I know have done time in local county jail, and both said Sunday morning was the time to be there, because they got served 'cakes and flakes'. A little debbie snack and and a single box of cornflakes was enough to make for a good day apparently. Little Debbie snacks are the shit! That calorie temptress slut is my vice. If they made Little Debbie snacks only in rock or powder form I would freebase that shit! Nutty Buddy bars for the motherfucking win son! 
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:42:00 PM EST
[#34]
I was on lock down in county jail back in by younger days. We didn't get commissary. Some of the dudes on the floor would slide us shit under the door.
I don't know if words can express how much I appreciated that handful of skittles. After a week of being locked in a little room with no contact with anybody, those few skittles were manna from heaven. Maybe once every 5-10 years I get something I appreciate that much. I paid that one forwards. After I'd been in a while and got off lockdown, there was a new dude who found himself in the situation I was in earlier and I had myself a pack of starburst and slid him a few. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:45:09 PM EST
[#35]
How do prisoners fund their commissary accounts? Does someone do it from the outside or do they have access to their personal accounts to top it up?
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:46:03 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Commissary is usually limited in SHU/SEG/Isolation....one thing worth bearing in mind....If a honey bun will shut an inmate up and make a difference between them flooding their cell or gassing an officer or anything else....I have no issue with the inmate purchasing a damn honey bun...It's not like they're supplied to the inmate free of charge This is all you belly aching mofos need to know. He ain’t roaming the streets eating a honeybun while he shoots/rapes/assaults his next victim. He’s eating that motherfucker in a cinder block cage. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:46:19 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: fuck no, it's like being in an overcrowded aquarium full of hungry fish that keep on nipping on each other. I got to see first hand how that worked, the strongest inmates would bully and wear the weakest ones slowly but surely. I was lucky I wasn't, the poor bastard that got the brunt of the bullying was in jail just because he couldn't pay child support. They'd take his food, fuck with him while sleeping and make thinly veiled threats of rape. And if you try to fight back they'd just beat the shit out of you, saw that happen with a new guy who got his jaw broken only two days after. The guys that attack you won't give a shit if they get their sentences extended for attacking you because it earns them more respect from the other bullies. Fuck that, solitary might be shitty for different reasons but at least you won't have to worry about someone attacking you anymore. I am not tough enough to survive that shit. My father spent some time in jail in his young and stupid days. He told me from a young age that jail/prison is a shit hole full of predators that sucks to live in and that I should avoid doing stupid shit that would get me sent there. I took his word for it and never spent time as a guest of the "criminal justice" system. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:48:33 PM EST
[#38]
When I worked in corrections, they got their basic meals and that was about it other than some books and regular hygiene items...........many times when you walked by to check on them they wanted to talk and would engage in conversation. It was a way to break monotony...........but as for the commissary, you could look at items the inmates would order and it usually told you if something was about to go down. They stockpile for lockdowns
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:48:41 PM EST
[#39]
Pop-Tarts are like money in prison from what I've seen on television.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:48:51 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How do prisoners fund their commissary accounts? Does someone do it from the outside or do they have access to their personal accounts to top it up? Usually they have family do it....but they'll call anyone that can that is willing to send them a few bucks...They can also fund their books by working inside the institution |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:49:40 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How do prisoners fund their commissary accounts? Does someone do it from the outside or do they have access to their personal accounts to top it up? Depends on the jail/prison. In some of them, if you have cash on you at the time of arrest, you can have that put on your books. Some of them, outside people can put money on your books. I've got family in state prison in FLA. I can put money on their phone account to make calls and basically emails/text messages. I cannot put money on their books for commissary but I can buy overpriced shit for them. I enter my card on the website and pick out some items and on the next commissary day, they get those items. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:51:30 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fed joint...all custody levels.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What kind of joint? Fed joint...all custody levels.. That's what I figured. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:53:39 PM EST
[#43]
Do they take away their tablets?
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:54:10 PM EST
[#44]
Quoted: That’s one hell of a punishment. I’m watching 60 Days In and a participant got thrown in the hole. They brought him sticky buns and other shit that he ordered. So fucked up… Not in KY. They can only purchase approved hygiene items and are limited on the amount and how much they can spend. But each state system is different. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 10:56:01 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Usually they have family do it....but they'll call anyone that can that is willing to send them a few bucks...They can also fund their books by working inside the institution Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How do prisoners fund their commissary accounts? Does someone do it from the outside or do they have access to their personal accounts to top it up? Usually they have family do it....but they'll call anyone that can that is willing to send them a few bucks...They can also fund their books by working inside the institution I know you know, but for the extended audience….y’all should hear the shit they say and do to get money on their “books”. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 11:00:33 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know you know, but for the extended audience….y’all should hear the shit they say and do to get money on their “books”. I love listening to inmate phone calls |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 11:04:48 PM EST
[#47]
Canteen is the least surprising thing they get.
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Posted: 1/1/2022 11:06:32 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love listening to inmate phone calls Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I know you know, but for the extended audience….y’all should hear the shit they say and do to get money on their “books”. I love listening to inmate phone calls Haha. I both love and hate it. On the one hand I catch them in so much shit and solve a lot of problems because they are fucking idiots….on the other…I lose faith in humanity. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 11:07:56 PM EST
[#49]
I think what's more fucked is that one quarter of the world's prisoners are in the US.
You start looking at lists of nations sorted by incarceration rates and we're in some pretty unfavorable company. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 11:10:44 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I personally believe all jail/prison sentences should be in solitary confinement. The length of the sentence should be reduced, on average, to approximately 1/3 of what we give now. The only exception should be for murder, kidnapping and rape. Yep. I don't understand why we permit blatant gang activity to take place inside prisons. The doors close, and a slot opens three times a day for bland, nutritious food. Your sentence is up, you get walked to the gates. Why is it more complicated than that? |
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