My Dodge seems to be holding up well after 9 years and me using all 600HP regularly. You'd be surprised how long a car lasts when you do BASIC maintenance.

My best friend at the time purchased a 1980 or 81 Trans Am turbo back in 1984 with about 10K miles on it.  That car never ran right, I think he went through 2 turbos on it before something finally broke in the engine.  He replaced it with a 400 small block, THEN it actually ran right.  

Yeah, but how fast is your house?????  

As well as the '69-'70 Shelby's.

All '70 Shelby's were left over '69's that didn't sell.  Black strips were added to the hood.

The "ultra rare" (well, at one time it was) ashtray in the '69-'70 Shelby console was out of an earlier model Corvette.

The guy that started NPD Mustang parts got his start selling arm rests for Mustangs with a built in ashtray.  And here's where it gets fun.  His son that now runs the business today had no idea it was a rear arm rest out of a '65 Fairlane.  I had to tell him this one day on a forum were members of.  

Yep, I can't remember the exact value on the paperwork for the car but it was north of $80k.  I never saw it but it must have been something special..!

Those were complete pieces of shit. Right up there with the caddy V8-6-4.

Generally true. Russian chicks seem to love my M4, though. There were a couple taking a bunch of pictures with it at last Cars and Coffee. One was smokin' hot (by my dirty old man standards anyhow) and the other was about 13 months pregnant. I'm not sure which one the stroller with toddler belonged to. But by God, they dug the car!

And they come with all-season tires.  Guy I know with one just ditched the factory tires after a few k. He said the tires would just spin 1-2-3.  Hellcats might be more suited to roll racing, skip the traction issues of launch.

His brother was a farmer. Built it in the farm shop, raced once, now is too busy farming.

Are you talking about the Hellcat or the Demon?

The Demon is/will be overshadowing it, but Year one Hellcats have some good potential on account of the significance. In 30 years, Barrett-Jackson be talking about the shot across the industry bow, the 707hp factory warranted monster car that was surpassed by the Demon but it was the trailblazer, etc etc.

That's a 3 year old article.

1997 was the first year for the LS1. In a Corvette. Had one. Then a 2001 Z06 with the LS6. Legit 12 second car.

Now I have a base Stingray. Already been 11.6 in it. Weather has sucked this season so I haven't had a good chance to make a hero run, but it's probably an 11 flat car with drag radials (which I have now) and good air.

All cars have gotten stupid fast.

I'm just waiting for Army75th to come back and tell us more about the few magic bolt ons that can make a Civic beat everything else on the road.

Was going to say it sounded like Ave of the cities
Those cops over there were pricks and I had to drive that route for work dropping off coworkers and would go from on end to the other and cops would hassle us.
We were way over hs age at the time too

Dated a girl that lived off the Ave and it was a pain in the ass going to see her

Fuckin A duffle bag! 

It's crazy. Before this Stingray, I had a 2014 Silverado (GenV L83, 5.3L FlexFuel). With drag radials, headers and a tune I went a best 13.90 with a crappy 1.98 60'. That's as good as most of the hot muscle cars back in the day. In a truck that weighs almost 5,000 lbs.

Good times.

And it just kills me when I'm behind them on a merge ramp and they can't even hit 65 in half a mile.

That's the kind of useless information I like telling people at dealerships. 

There is an old saying.  You can make a piece of %$#@ fast, but then all you have is a fast piece of %$#@.

Not a Hellcat but I kind of want one of these:
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It's a Mercedes R63 AMG and they only made them for one year and only about 100 in the US.

A 507 HP minivan!

Plane I use to fly burned 60 gal per min on takeoff per engine.  Zero to 250 knots

Meh
Soccer mom stuff man

Yes, but fucking fast soccer mom stuff! 0-60 in 4.6 with 5 friends

I have a deposit down for the first Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio my dealer gets in. A little quicker at what's supposed to be 3.9 but only 5 passenger and less cargo space.

Looking forward to seeing the pics

During qualifying for the 1988 Winston 500 at Talladega, Bill Elliott put his '88 T-Bird on the pole with a 212.809-mph run. But during that race Bobby Allison's Buick nearly went into the stands during a spectacular crash and NASCAR started fitting cars on their fastest tracks with power-limiting carburetor restrictor plates. So Elliott's 212.809 qualification run from way back then remains the quickest run ever by a NASCAR stock car. It may always be that way.




The new for 1989 Thunderbird had a drag coefficient of 0.31, and had gone through roughly 700 hours of wind tunnel testing to achieve said number.


The MN-12 Thunderbird reportedly shared one part with BMW... the sunroof motor.

Not sure I will actually end up buying it when it does arrive but I at least have first right of refusal on a stock car if I want it or the ability to order the first one they can spec.

No, he didn't, Brah.

You can sleep in a car...

Totally agree, I don't remember the car ever running on all 8 cylinders until he replaced the motor and turbo with a slightly built 400 small block with carburetor.  I mean, at the time it looked cool as hell (1984), but holy shit it was a dog.  

You have to wonder how it came about.

Hope he doesn't have to overnight parts from Japan.

I used to have that happen in the early 00s all the time with my Trans Am WS6. The good old ricer flyby. I wonder how many "races" I "lost" to them without knowing.

I don't know about the fuel per minute, or fuel lines, but my LS1 Corvette got 29MPG on the highway, and around 22 overall.

That's pretty good mileage. My car only gets a whopping 19 on the highway and 4 in town. Granted I am lucky to get 150 miles from a full tank.

She's thirsty and runs hard.

Just from what I read in magazines over the years, it seemed like turbos were still fairly exotic tech and didn't play well with carb'd engines. Apparently they didn't run right from the factory and were replaced with conventional V8s under warranty.

Say what you want about Dodge but the Hellcat Charger I rode in was totally insane. My buddy driving, his '69 Dart with a 408 stroker doesn't feel as fast anymore. It's an 11 second car.

I rented this dodge R/T from National last Friday out of the Minneapolis St. Paul airport.

So much fun! When you floor it and the gears change it makes the most satisfying ripping noise from the exhaust.

I can only imagine what the Demon does.

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Auto Hellcat with only drag radials is a high-10 sec car, so it's easy to understand.

The SRT Hellcat's power to weight ratio is 6.19 pounds per HP.   For a 67 MKIII 427 Shelby Cobra it was 4.85.  The Cobra still beats it in the 1/4 mile and 0-60, the Hellcat has a much higher top speed.

An SRT Demon will beat the Cobra in either and at top speed, and it'll do a wheelie doing it.

All three will absolutely murder your buddie's Honda Civic.

Reminds me of this post thats been going around a decade about TFD's some of this is old and probably more impressive now since they run faster now and iirc in excess of 10k hp...

* One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic-inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500.

* Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1.25 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

* A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to merely drive the dragster’s supercharger.

* With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

* At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.

* Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

* Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

* Dragsters reach over 300 MPH before you have completed reading this sentence.

* In order to exceed 300 MPH in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4 G’s. In order to reach 200 MPH well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8 G’s.

* Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!

* Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

* The redline is actually quite high at 9500 RPM.

* THE BOTTOM LINE: Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, & for once, NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000 per second.

The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter-mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 MPH (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03, Doug Kalitta).

Putting this all into perspective:

Lets say the you are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered Corvette Z06.

Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged & ready to launch down a quarter-mile strip as you pass by it. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the ‘Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line & pass the dragster at an honest 200 MPH. Just as you pass the Top Fuel Dragster the ‘tree’ goes green for both of you.

The dragster launches & starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums & within 3 seconds the dragster catches & passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it – from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 MPH & not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race!


Here is a video of a fuel pump operation for one cylinder of 8 on a Top Fuel Dragster

"Excessive acceleration" in a Mercedes C300 4 Matic in dry conditions  ask me how know

This is true, When I had my SRT8 Challenger I would drive past a group of men and women and do a little roll on with almost straight exhaust and all the ladies were still looking at their phones while the guys looked and drooled.

If I wanted to pick up a guy I would have bought a miata. However my fiancee would get all sorts of crazy at the sound of it. Driving and even in the passenger seat. She knows real cars vs rice rockets, and I do own a rice rocket.... A series 5 RX7 Turbo. She knows good from bad.

Guess it will boil down to production #s and how many are left.  The reason the older cars from the 60s are priced high is that there weren't alot made of the high hp version to begin with and they weren't garage kept.  

Excellent post however there is a Honda out there that could do better than the Vette in your example

Was expecting a discussion on this