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FBI anon 2015: Bill Clinton will be dead by the end of the year. Follow the money.
Horse shit started with this asshole. Same guy probably started the Q-tardation after he saw people were willing to believe shit like that. For a while it was a great way to keep track of retarded people on arf, so it did have a plus side. |
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Stolen election, lizard people, trump is Jesus reincarnated etc.
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I think of the Qtards I know, or have heard from, the general commonality is that they think law is magic. They think if they get the right combination of obscure statutes and officials, they'll "trigger" some apocalyptic reckoning that will make everything right.
It appears to be similar to Protestant Postmillennialism, in which Christians believe that they have to create the necessary apocalyptic conditions for Christ to return. Or maybe Shi'ite Islam, who believe that to invoke the apocalypse that a certain set of events has to happen, with the Mahdi coming out of the well and the forces of Islam being almost defeated and surrounded on the plains of Megiddo before the Mahdi strikes all their enemies down with lightning. It appears to be bog-standard religious fervor combined with a sovereign-citizen like belief that there's some legal secret code word that magically makes you a superhero. I think the whole thing with JFK Jr and Trump and Dealey Plaza and all that is pretty much religious eschatology applied to political critters. |
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Quoted: Lot of gray bars in here. Funny, that. I believe Q was propaganda by the democrat vermin to get conservatives to trust the system as opposed to actually DOING SOMETHING. It worked, we were pacified. View Quote Lol, what was Jan. 6th again? We were not pacified. The media was always censoring and silencing negative stories about our elites and high level government officials. Q was a way to get around the tyrants and remain anonymous so the fascist media censors couldn't track, trace or otherwise ban someone for speaking out. It also had its fair share of infiltrators and agitprop like every movement that gains popularity. But it wasn't meant to dissuade action, quite the contrary. And ill add that because of this, Trump never denounced them. |
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Quoted: I find it Interesting to see people who appear to be invested somehow in the public not uncovering the crimes of our elected officials. You’ll often see them trying to equate the Q awakening with things like ‘Hillary was executed’, or ‘Nancy Pelosi is a lizard person’. I’m not sure if this is a formal disinformation campaign or just people who haven’t done their own research repeating what they hear in their limited social and social media circles. It’s interesting though. View Quote I did my own research, the lizard person Nancy Pelosi was executed by military tribunal at Gitmo in 2020. Patriots are in charge. |
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Quoted: I did my own research, the lizard person Nancy Pelosi was executed by military tribunal at Gitmo in 2020. Patriots are in charge. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I find it Interesting to see people who appear to be invested somehow in the public not uncovering the crimes of our elected officials. You’ll often see them trying to equate the Q awakening with things like ‘Hillary was executed’, or ‘Nancy Pelosi is a lizard person’. I’m not sure if this is a formal disinformation campaign or just people who haven’t done their own research repeating what they hear in their limited social and social media circles. It’s interesting though. I did my own research, the lizard person Nancy Pelosi was executed by military tribunal at Gitmo in 2020. Patriots are in charge. Attached File |
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Quoted: All I see in this thread is one big leftist circle jerk so good question View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why are we still talking about Q? All I see in this thread is one big leftist circle jerk so good question Attached File |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/483179/B690710C-5AC2-4D5F-951D-9CCD1D6103A4_jpe-2340333.JPG View Quote That's one of the most accurate memes I have ever seen. |
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Democrat psyop to pacify the people who DC is afraid of. Convince them to "trust the plan" and they won't come hang every politician from lampposts. I'm pretty sure the theory that a lot of our politicians are pedos, existed long before Q. Same with reptoids, which are real by the way.
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Quoted: I find it Interesting to see people who appear to be invested somehow in the public not uncovering the crimes of our elected officials. You'll often see them trying to equate the Q awakening with things like 'Hillary was executed', or 'Nancy Pelosi is a lizard person'. I'm not sure if this is a formal disinformation campaign or just people who haven't done their own research repeating what they hear in their limited social and social media circles. It's interesting though. View Quote Are you suggesting that a bunch of people being executed / body doubles isn't part of the Qtardation? I will admit that I much to freely lump Qtards into a stereotypical group, but are you suggesting that if I don't believe that some mythical military unit or some hereto unseen virtuous element in the justice department is going to restore Trump to power then I am invested in not uncovering the crimes of our elected officials? I know that our government is corrupt to the core. Qtards believe that some power in our completely corrupt government is somehow going to right the ship and bring the corrupt to justice. What evidence is there that this could ever happen? Which is more insane, believing that Hunter and the Big Guy are completely corrupt and have taken payoffs but will not end up being prosecuted, or believing that they are completely corrupt and against all prior evidence and precedence they will find them selves in Guantanamo or executed and replaced with body doubles that continue to carry out their same corruption. People getting woke to corruption in the government is a good thing, but when you sail right past that to believing every word out of some guys mouth podcasting from his basement in a monotone with no evidence for any of it, that is not being a patriot or doing your own research. IMO, to suggest that you either must believe in Qtardation or you don't want to uncover the crimes of our elected officials, that's nuts. |
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Yes. Right here.
GD will label anything that they disagree with as "Q" stuff. It's their default argument. ETA: I see that we have some Q haters that are eerily familiar with everything that was ever posted, or said by a Q follower. Things that make you go "hmm..." |
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The revisionist history from the Q-cult sure is something else.
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Quoted: All I see in this thread is one big leftist circle jerk so good question View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why are we still talking about Q? All I see in this thread is one big leftist circle jerk so good question It's inevitable, the topic attracts flies. My observations: Queue is not for the literal, more akin to a carefully vague hinting process... "have a look at:__________" Interestingly a good number of topics/subjects are slowly coming into mainstream feeds with concerning detail. I file it under ~"how do I expose xxx without winning a slander charge." I find it interesting that the source was never exposed. indicating that tracks were reasonably well obscured. Sure hope the mystery is revealed. |
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Quoted: This sums up my original understanding of Q posts, seems that after the media got a hold of it, it turned into more of a disinformation campaign. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/tumblr_c4052268ac2270db6a9b16abc39a50da_-2340585.JPG View Quote An excellent summary and the reason the Never Trump Crowd, the MSM and establishment criminals of both parties take every opportunity to ridicule and attack the people who dare to look behind the curtain. |
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Quoted: It's inevitable, the topic attracts flies. My observations: Queue is not for the literal, more akin to a carefully vague hinting process... "have a look at:__________" Interestingly a good number of topics/subjects are slowly coming into mainstream feeds with concerning detail. I file it under ~"how do I expose xxx without winning a slander charge." I find it interesting that the source was never exposed. indicating that tracks were reasonably well obscured. Sure hope the mystery is revealed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why are we still talking about Q? All I see in this thread is one big leftist circle jerk so good question It's inevitable, the topic attracts flies. My observations: Queue is not for the literal, more akin to a carefully vague hinting process... "have a look at:__________" Interestingly a good number of topics/subjects are slowly coming into mainstream feeds with concerning detail. I file it under ~"how do I expose xxx without winning a slander charge." I find it interesting that the source was never exposed. indicating that tracks were reasonably well obscured. Sure hope the mystery is revealed. Avatar checks out. |
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Quoted: Because I started the thread you are posting in. It's a sincere question that has been answered to my satisfaction. Someone mentioned the actor playing FJB. When my friend told me that I had to ask "Why wouldn't they get a body double that could actually put together a full sentence"? He answered only with an angry and befuddled look. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why are we still talking about Q? Because I started the thread you are posting in. It's a sincere question that has been answered to my satisfaction. Someone mentioned the actor playing FJB. When my friend told me that I had to ask "Why wouldn't they get a body double that could actually put together a full sentence"? He answered only with an angry and befuddled look. You will get called some really nasty stuff if you point out logical problems such as that. It is a cult at this point. |
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Quoted: I'm curious if you think there is a possibility that some of those "Q" supporters you pictured could be Fed informants / provocateurs? Or perhaps you believe the feds are above doing something like that. View Quote So it's all really just a big CONSPIRACY by the Fed's to make the Q-"supporters" (I'll be polite) look bad?? If I were the Feds, I'd head the maxim, "Never stop your opponent when he is damaging himself more than you ever could"... If you claim that all those "Q" folks were somehow provocateurs, then the Question is - why weren't the "Good Patriots" hauling them OUT of their gathering?? When we held the huge rally in Richmond VA in support of gun rights, some "edge lords" on this board boasted that they were going to cut & smash the fences and cause a huge disruption. Many here (myself included) made it know if the "accelerationists" wanted to try to cause a riot & police response - they'd get their asses stomped to pate' in two seconds. Richmond Rally went off smooth & successful without the riot or disruptions our foes had been predicting with 30,000 Armed Americans at the Virginia state capital in protest. It was Woodstock with Weapons & a great example of grass roots mobilization & of what "peaceful protest" really looks like. BIGGER_HAMMER |
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Quoted: So it's all really just a big CONSPIRACY by the Fed's to make the Q-"supporters" (I'll be polite) look bad?? If I were the Feds, I'd head the maxim, "Never stop your opponent when he is damaging himself more than you ever could"... If you claim that all those "Q" folks were somehow provocateurs, then the Question is - why weren't the "Good Patriots" hauling them OUT of their gathering?? When we held the huge rally in Richmond VA in support of gun rights, some "edge lords" on this board boasted that they were going to cut & smash the fences and cause a huge disruption. Many here (myself included) made it know if the "accelerationists" wanted to try to cause a riot & police response - they'd get their asses stomped to pate' in two seconds. Richmond Rally went off smooth & successful without the riot or disruptions our foes had been predicting with 30,000 Armed Americans at the Virginia state capital in protest. It was Woodstock with Weapons & a great example of grass roots mobilization & of what "peaceful protest" really looks like. BIGGER_HAMMER View Quote The Richmond protest wasn’t over a fraudulent election, was it? |
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Quoted: The Richmond protest wasn’t over a fraudulent election, was it? View Quote The Richmond Rally was over the unconstitutional restrictions upon the 2nd Amendment - doesn't that interest a member of a "Firearms Website"? (guess we forgot to ask if you own any guns or if you are a "Prohibited Person". The Richmond Rally attendees came from all over the Country to support our fellow gun owners and (A) the Richmond Rally energized Virginia Gun Owners to VOTE the Democrats OUT of major offices in the recent VA elections (a CLEAR WIN for Freedom) & (B) the other Attendees went back to their respective states and successfully fought most state level Gun Control, and in several states EXPANDED Gun Rights (Like Constitutional Carry in Texas) - Guess that doesn't mean anything to you eh? Not enough "Globalists, Illuminati or Lizard People"? Regarding the "Elections" and your "Cite" game. CITE the Court Case in which "clear evidence of voter fraud sufficient to overturn the 2020 presidential election" was ruled? Trump collected ONE HUNDREN MILLION DOLLARS for this exact purpose - what has it put in court as "Evidence" of "widespread voter fraud" & won?? BIGGER_HAMMER |
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Quoted: The Richmond Rally was over the unconstitutional restrictions upon the 2nd Amendment - doesn't that interest a member of a "Firearms Website"? (guess we forgot to ask if you own any guns or if you are a "Prohibited Person". The Richmond Rally attendees came from all over the Country to support our fellow gun owners and (A) the Richmond Rally energized Virginia Gun Owners to VOTE the Democrats OUT of major offices in the recent VA elections (a CLEAR WIN for Freedom) & (B) the other Attendees went back to their respective states and successfully fought most state level Gun Control, and in several states EXPANDED Gun Rights (Like Constitutional Carry in Texas) - Guess that doesn't mean anything to you eh? Not enough "Globalists, Illuminati or Lizard People"? Regarding the "Elections" and your "Cite" game. CITE the Court Case in which "clear evidence of voter fraud sufficient to overturn the 2020 presidential election" was ruled? Trump collected ONE HUNDREN MILLION DOLLARS for this exact purpose - what has it put in court as "Evidence" of "widespread voter fraud" & won?? BIGGER_HAMMER View Quote What was or wasn’t considered evidence was blocked by activist bench sitters. Allowing a company to conceal evidence based on “proprietary secrets” is bullshit and you know it. If you’re such a gun rights activist, who is Rebecca Peters and who was she discovered by, propped up by and continues to work for? |
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Quoted: So it's all really just a big CONSPIRACY by the Fed's to make the Q-"supporters" (I'll be polite) look bad?? If I were the Feds, I'd head the maxim, "Never stop your opponent when he is damaging himself more than you ever could"... If you claim that all those "Q" folks were somehow provocateurs, then the Question is - why weren't the "Good Patriots" hauling them OUT of their gathering?? When we held the huge rally in Richmond VA in support of gun rights, some "edge lords" on this board boasted that they were going to cut & smash the fences and cause a huge disruption. Many here (myself included) made it know if the "accelerationists" wanted to try to cause a riot & police response - they'd get their asses stomped to pate' in two seconds. Richmond Rally went off smooth & successful without the riot or disruptions our foes had been predicting with 30,000 Armed Americans at the Virginia state capital in protest. It was Woodstock with Weapons & a great example of grass roots mobilization & of what "peaceful protest" really looks like. BIGGER_HAMMER View Quote You responded to my question with answers to a question I didn't ask. I asked if "any could be" Fed provocateurs? which you answered as if I said they were "all" Feds. I understand that there are in fact folks who believe crazy conspiracy theories like hangings at Gitmo, Lizard people, etc, but they are getting those ideas from fringe anons not from the Q drops. I'm assuming from your answer that you do not believe that the feds use provocateurs, or if they do they wouldn't look like the folks in the pictures above. |
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Quoted: What was or wasn’t considered evidence was blocked by activist bench sitters. Allowing a company to conceal evidence based on “proprietary secrets” is bullshit and you know it. If you’re such a gun rights activist, who is Rebecca Peters and who was she discovered by, propped up by and continues to work for? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Richmond Rally was over the unconstitutional restrictions upon the 2nd Amendment - doesn't that interest a member of a "Firearms Website"? (guess we forgot to ask if you own any guns or if you are a "Prohibited Person". The Richmond Rally attendees came from all over the Country to support our fellow gun owners and (A) the Richmond Rally energized Virginia Gun Owners to VOTE the Democrats OUT of major offices in the recent VA elections (a CLEAR WIN for Freedom) & (B) the other Attendees went back to their respective states and successfully fought most state level Gun Control, and in several states EXPANDED Gun Rights (Like Constitutional Carry in Texas) - Guess that doesn't mean anything to you eh? Not enough "Globalists, Illuminati or Lizard People"? Regarding the "Elections" and your "Cite" game. CITE the Court Case in which "clear evidence of voter fraud sufficient to overturn the 2020 presidential election" was ruled? Trump collected ONE HUNDREN MILLION DOLLARS for this exact purpose - what has it put in court as "Evidence" of "widespread voter fraud" & won?? BIGGER_HAMMER What was or wasn’t considered evidence was blocked by activist bench sitters. Allowing a company to conceal evidence based on “proprietary secrets” is bullshit and you know it. If you’re such a gun rights activist, who is Rebecca Peters and who was she discovered by, propped up by and continues to work for? give up..he doesn't think judges can be just as corrupt and bought off as the politicians that appoint them. |
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I don't want to weed through the squabbles.
Did any Q person yet list some of the things they believe? |
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Quoted: The Richmond Rally was over the unconstitutional restrictions upon the 2nd Amendment - doesn't that interest a member of a "Firearms Website"? (guess we forgot to ask if you own any guns or if you are a "Prohibited Person". The Richmond Rally attendees came from all over the Country to support our fellow gun owners and (A) the Richmond Rally energized Virginia Gun Owners to VOTE the Democrats OUT of major offices in the recent VA elections (a CLEAR WIN for Freedom) & (B) the other Attendees went back to their respective states and successfully fought most state level Gun Control, and in several states EXPANDED Gun Rights (Like Constitutional Carry in Texas) - Guess that doesn't mean anything to you eh? Not enough "Globalists, Illuminati or Lizard People"? Regarding the "Elections" and your "Cite" game. CITE the Court Case in which "clear evidence of voter fraud sufficient to overturn the 2020 presidential election" was ruled? Trump collected ONE HUNDREN MILLION DOLLARS for this exact purpose - what has it put in court as "Evidence" of "widespread voter fraud" & won?? BIGGER_HAMMER View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Richmond protest wasn’t over a fraudulent election, was it? The Richmond Rally was over the unconstitutional restrictions upon the 2nd Amendment - doesn't that interest a member of a "Firearms Website"? (guess we forgot to ask if you own any guns or if you are a "Prohibited Person". The Richmond Rally attendees came from all over the Country to support our fellow gun owners and (A) the Richmond Rally energized Virginia Gun Owners to VOTE the Democrats OUT of major offices in the recent VA elections (a CLEAR WIN for Freedom) & (B) the other Attendees went back to their respective states and successfully fought most state level Gun Control, and in several states EXPANDED Gun Rights (Like Constitutional Carry in Texas) - Guess that doesn't mean anything to you eh? Not enough "Globalists, Illuminati or Lizard People"? Regarding the "Elections" and your "Cite" game. CITE the Court Case in which "clear evidence of voter fraud sufficient to overturn the 2020 presidential election" was ruled? Trump collected ONE HUNDREN MILLION DOLLARS for this exact purpose - what has it put in court as "Evidence" of "widespread voter fraud" & won?? BIGGER_HAMMER So, no. Two completely different things. |
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Quoted: You responded to my question with answers to a question I didn't ask. I asked if "any could be" Fed provocateurs? which you answered as if I said they were "all" Feds. I understand that there are in fact folks who believe crazy conspiracy theories like hangings at Gitmo, Lizard people, etc, but they are getting those ideas from fringe anons not from the Q drops. I'm assuming from your answer that you do not believe that the feds use provocateurs, or if they do they wouldn't look like the folks in the pictures above. View Quote "Could" they be Provocateurs? - well they "Could" be. (can you prove they are?) "Could" they be Alien-human hybrids? - well they "could" be. (can you prove they are not?) The "Vague Game" is all the rage in Conspiracy Circles. Because "who" know exactly "whom" may or may not be a reptilian replacement? Do the Feds use undercover agents & paid informants in some groups? I think we can all agree "yes they do". Are "undercover feds" 'forcing' otherwise "peaceful" January 6th Rioters to actually attack the police & riot? I don't see that. If so, you'd think the "Good Patriots" would grab them and remove them from their group. When the Silent Brigade marched in Richmond, if someone in the group shouted "Let's kill those Globalists Lizard People cops", they would have been thrown out on the spot. Good Patriots police themselves and don't make excuses (it was all the feds fault) when things go off the rails badly... BIGGER_HAMMER |
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Quoted: The Richmond Rally was over the unconstitutional restrictions upon the 2nd Amendment - doesn't that interest a member of a "Firearms Website"? (guess we forgot to ask if you own any guns or if you are a "Prohibited Person". The Richmond Rally attendees came from all over the Country to support our fellow gun owners and (A) the Richmond Rally energized Virginia Gun Owners to VOTE the Democrats OUT of major offices in the recent VA elections (a CLEAR WIN for Freedom) & (B) the other Attendees went back to their respective states and successfully fought most state level Gun Control, and in several states EXPANDED Gun Rights (Like Constitutional Carry in Texas) - Guess that doesn't mean anything to you eh? Not enough "Globalists, Illuminati or Lizard People"? Regarding the "Elections" and your "Cite" game. CITE the Court Case in which "clear evidence of voter fraud sufficient to overturn the 2020 presidential election" was ruled? Trump collected ONE HUNDREN MILLION DOLLARS for this exact purpose - what has it put in court as "Evidence" of "widespread voter fraud" & won?? BIGGER_HAMMER View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Richmond protest wasn’t over a fraudulent election, was it? The Richmond Rally was over the unconstitutional restrictions upon the 2nd Amendment - doesn't that interest a member of a "Firearms Website"? (guess we forgot to ask if you own any guns or if you are a "Prohibited Person". The Richmond Rally attendees came from all over the Country to support our fellow gun owners and (A) the Richmond Rally energized Virginia Gun Owners to VOTE the Democrats OUT of major offices in the recent VA elections (a CLEAR WIN for Freedom) & (B) the other Attendees went back to their respective states and successfully fought most state level Gun Control, and in several states EXPANDED Gun Rights (Like Constitutional Carry in Texas) - Guess that doesn't mean anything to you eh? Not enough "Globalists, Illuminati or Lizard People"? Regarding the "Elections" and your "Cite" game. CITE the Court Case in which "clear evidence of voter fraud sufficient to overturn the 2020 presidential election" was ruled? Trump collected ONE HUNDREN MILLION DOLLARS for this exact purpose - what has it put in court as "Evidence" of "widespread voter fraud" & won?? BIGGER_HAMMER Sure as hell didn’t help pay for the legal fees of those people… |
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Quoted: So, no. Two completely different things. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Richmond protest wasn’t over a fraudulent election, was it? The Richmond Rally was over the unconstitutional restrictions upon the 2nd Amendment - doesn't that interest a member of a "Firearms Website"? (guess we forgot to ask if you own any guns or if you are a "Prohibited Person". The Richmond Rally attendees came from all over the Country to support our fellow gun owners and (A) the Richmond Rally energized Virginia Gun Owners to VOTE the Democrats OUT of major offices in the recent VA elections (a CLEAR WIN for Freedom) & (B) the other Attendees went back to their respective states and successfully fought most state level Gun Control, and in several states EXPANDED Gun Rights (Like Constitutional Carry in Texas) - Guess that doesn't mean anything to you eh? Not enough "Globalists, Illuminati or Lizard People"? Regarding the "Elections" and your "Cite" game. CITE the Court Case in which "clear evidence of voter fraud sufficient to overturn the 2020 presidential election" was ruled? Trump collected ONE HUNDREN MILLION DOLLARS for this exact purpose - what has it put in court as "Evidence" of "widespread voter fraud" & won?? BIGGER_HAMMER So, no. Two completely different things. How were they two completely different things? Large Protests of "Patriots" who gathered at a Capital because they were unhappy with current events & wanted to voice that discontent. One Group actually Peacefully Protested & successfully energized their base & made the Change they wanted. Fences were erected - we didn't tear them down. We didn't storm the capital breaking down doors & bashing in windows. We didn't go down the halls threatening legislators. We didn't get arrested. One Group... let's just be charitable and "did the opposite". Since TSG68 couldn't do it - let's let you try CITE the Court Case in which "clear evidence of voter fraud sufficient to overturn the 2020 presidential election" was ruled? Trump collected ONE HUNDREN MILLION DOLLARS for this exact purpose - what has it put in COURT as "Evidence" of "widespread voter fraud" & won?? The Cop Out that "The Courts are Corrupt" is the Full of Shit excuse to say "we lost because we had nothing, but let's blame it on the courts instead"... SCOTUS (even with a huge Trump presence) turned it down (properly) because in matters of Elections & Electors, the Constitution & law established it is as a STATE question. BIGGER_HAMMER |
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Quoted: I don't want to weed through the squabbles. Did any Q person yet list some of the things they believe? View Quote Most of the people accused of being “Q-tards” have never even read a Q post or been to the 4Chan site, it’s just a smear. I’ve only read some quote blocks posted on here and never taken them seriously yet get accused of being a Q person… it’s just another GD lowbrow, redneck way of shutting down debate. Just a backhanded dismissal. |
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Quoted: I don't want to weed through the squabbles. Did any Q person yet list some of the things they believe? View Quote I have posted this several times, but I'll re-post: As someone who kept up with Q almost from the get go, my opinion of Q has not changed. Q was / is a social media operation by the Trump Administration. Trump understands the importance of social media. He went all in on his Twitter presence as soon as his campaign kicked off. Trump has a history of using an alias to push an agenda (see John Barron) Trump has a history with the National EnQuirer. Use enough Bat boy stories to get attention in order to red pill folks with the real news: John Edwards, Tom Cruise. Trump could have shut down Q at any time by simply and clearly denouncing Q as a hoax and and threat to his administration. Q provided a way for the administration to Bird Dog important wrongdoing without releasing classified information. Q is probably by definition a LARP, but it is Trump's LARP. There is Q and there are Anons, but "QAnon" is a media and never trumper catch all for any crazy theory they want to make up to discredit the MAGA movement. Some random person on a gun forum says Hillary is a lizard person. Media and never trumpers say Qanon is all about lizard people. Comet Pizza doesn't have a basement, therefor there are no pedophiles in the government. Same Alinsky tactics. WWG1WGA |
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