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Posted: 5/15/2020 12:50:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bzub12: At this point it’s obvious that Trumps relationship with Epstein and Gates was more than just a casual one. No, let's all continue to pretend that Melania was able to emigrate into the US due to her made-up degree in Architecture.  
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Posted: 5/15/2020 12:51:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1057: Oh look, a Never Trumper thread I thought it was a current thread shake my head |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 12:52:33 PM EST
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Thanks for your_concern
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Posted: 5/15/2020 12:52:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hes running the government like he ran his businesses For the most part, wildly successfully. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 12:56:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4: For the most part, wildly successfully. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4: Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic: Hes running the government like he ran his businesses For the most part, wildly successfully. Yes, taking advantage of bankruptcy laws 4 times is awesome. So if you take your social security you are FSA, if you use bankruptcy laws to refuse to pay your debts, or simply don't pay them and make people sue you to get paid you are a "great businessman". Seems legit. What's going to be funny is how Trump functions as an ex-President (in 2020 or 2024, whenever it is). Having 52% of the nation absolutely despise you on every level while 30% is apathetic at best and ~20ish% love you isn't a great recipe for future success. If there's ever an example of making your own bed that will be it. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 12:57:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Troutman84: Lots of things are not mutually exclusive. I can say that I’ve been disappointed in Trump, while still saying I’ll probably vote for him again. One thing he has gotten right have been his scotus nominations. Trump may deserve our vote based solely on the fact that RBG likely dies during the next presidential term. The deep state coupe attempt was a hostile takeover attempt that must be stopped. Those who conducted it must be punished or it will be done again. That absolutely requires Trump to win 2020. Trump's vices and failings pail by comparison. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 12:58:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He knows about the massive amounts of space gold they're gonna mine from the moon once Elon gets his shit running, so money is irrelevant For real though, OP is right. Trump has been mostly a failure on everything but the economy in my eyes. That being said, all his predecessors in my lifetime have been complete failures on everything so he is the best POTUS we've had in a long time. The problem is nobody wants to face the truth that this country will be headed for a bloody reset before we ever again see anything resembling Constitutionally driven governance or unregulated freedoms as explained in the BoR. We've passed the point of no return- the natural order of governments, they grow until they're too big and then they rule more and more authoritarian-like until they are removed. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:01:49 PM EST
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Just incredible.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:02:03 PM EST
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Quoted: He's one of the two. I'm leaning heavily toward traitor. The most recent evidence being his push for this massive spending that is obviously sucking the remaining life out of our country. So is there "non politician" man who based his life around becoming an expert businessman and cash flow expert ignorant to what he is doing? Or is this purposeful? Looking at his eagerness to ban guns, due process later, and red flag support, this is not an isolated incident. Sorry your gal won. No you can't use the excuse that he's just listening to his advisors, this is supposed to be good forte No this is not a single issue (remember the gun bans, red flag support, etc) No, funny tweets do not make him great, nor his angering of liberals. No, his handouts are not any better than Obama's. Just because a small portion is earmarked for businesses, does not make it so. Yes, I would happily consider myself a never Trumper. I'm kind of grossed out by anyone who isn't at this point. What the fuck is left to even remotely like? The "wall"??? Bwahahaha, what a joke.  |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:03:21 PM EST
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These threads crack me up. Given the OP is a self proclaimed Never Trumper which is pants on head retarded, but man some of the folks here are so black and white when it comes to Trump. Its absolutely possible to support him in the presidency and be critical of some of the things hes done. I voted for him once, will vote for him again, but hes definitely proven himself to not be a friend to the gun community
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:03:48 PM EST
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Quoted: He's one of the two. I'm leaning heavily toward traitor. The most recent evidence being his push for this massive spending that is obviously sucking the remaining life out of our country. So is there "non politician" man who based his life around becoming an expert businessman and cash flow expert ignorant to what he is doing? Or is this purposeful? Looking at his eagerness to ban guns, due process later, and red flag support, this is not an isolated incident. Sorry your gal won. No you can't use the excuse that he's just listening to his advisors, this is supposed to be good forte No this is not a single issue (remember the gun bans, red flag support, etc) No, funny tweets do not make him great, nor his angering of liberals. No, his handouts are not any better than Obama's. Just because a small portion is earmarked for businesses, does not make it so. Yes, I would happily consider myself a never Trumper. I'm kind of grossed out by anyone who isn't at this point. What the fuck is left to even remotely like? The "wall"??? Bwahahaha, what a joke. What are you prepared to do about it? What are you proposing the citizenry do? Maybe you can join a Facebook approved #resistTM group. Good job Francis, super edgy. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:04:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never_Trumper thread. TDS is a mental disorder... |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:05:01 PM EST
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Trump has nothing to do with the foundation of our economy.
We are a consumption based economy, and the largest economy in the entire history of the human race. It got turned off momentarily, chugging along at full speed and then just switched off. The only way to keep the whole system form crashing down is to keep people consuming, and if they have lost income or are apprehensive about their income and not spending then .gov as NO CHOICE but to inject cash directly to people to promote consumption. There are no options other than total economic collapse. There will be many more trillion dollar stimulus bills before this is over, and the would be no matter who is president. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:05:06 PM EST
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Much peer pressure in this thread to accept a traitor as a savior and one betrayal after another as 4D chess.. if Trump were a contractor that anyone here hired to do work on their home they would have fired him and filed a lawsuit by now.
his WWE wrestling matches were more realistic than this fake rivalry he has with the DNC, deepstate and MSM... at this point in time |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:05:56 PM EST
[#15]
May G-d grant us these scenes again in 2020.
The USA has endured 11.5 years of leftist tyranny. Enough.      |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:08:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump has nothing to do with the foundation of our economy. We are a consumption based economy, and the largest economy in the entire history of the human race. It got turned off momentarily, chugging along at full speed and then just switched off. The only way to keep the whole system form crashing down is to keep people consuming, and if they have lost income or are apprehensive about their income and not spending then .gov as NO CHOICE but to inject cash directly to people to promote consumption. There are no options other than total economic collapse. There will be many more trillion dollar stimulus bills before this is over, and the would be no matter who is president. Wrong. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:10:04 PM EST
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I have seen the light.
I will vote for the guy who's favorite color is Monday. Or is it that his favorite flavor is yellow. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:10:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bzub12: Much peer pressure in this thread to accept a traitor as a savior and one betrayal after another as 4D chess.. if Trump were a contractor that anyone here hired to do work on their home they would have fired him and filed a lawsuit by now. his WWE wrestling matches were more realistic than this fake rivalry he has with the DNC, deepstate and MSM... at this point in time Maybe you can ShareBlue some more. Since Trump isn't a contractor, what are you going to do. You running for office, helping in a campaign, or just using a burner account to shill on an internet forum? |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:10:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Clutchdeath: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/368070/emuGlCG_jpg-1416815.JPG I agree, the thread started out mildly 'off' and quickly went full blown retard I don't think anyone's actually refuted the OP, yet, LOL TDS is a very double-edged form of stupid. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:12:36 PM EST
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He is not prefect but your choices are
Biden (more likely his VP) or Trump. Easy decision for me. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:13:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SemperFo: I expect we will see lots of these kinds of threads as we get closer to the election. You know that's funny on a lot of levels I can't wait to see what crazy shit gets explained away by his supporters (intentionally left vague) |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:14:41 PM EST
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I hold the view that no matter who is the "president" the strings of the State will always be pulled in favor of expanding the State. They're all just puppets being controlled.
I'd call myself a Never Governmenter at this point. There's no restoring or even repairing what we had. It's rotten to the core. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:14:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bzub12: Much peer pressure in this thread to accept a traitor as a savior and one betrayal after another as 4D chess.. if Trump were a contractor that anyone here hired to do work on their home they would have fired him and filed a lawsuit by now. his WWE wrestling matches were more realistic than this fake rivalry he has with the DNC, deepstate and MSM... at this point in time I view the Obama instigated effort at a soft coupe to be treason. And there are a long list of traitors. Frankly this includes resist! and nevertrump republicans, all of whom support the coupe attempt. Those in the media attempting to cover it up are as guilty as the insiders who started it with lies to the FISA court, etc. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:15:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mallninjamaster: Trump has nothing to do with the foundation of our economy. We are a consumption based economy, and the largest economy in the entire history of the human race. It got turned off momentarily, chugging along at full speed and then just switched off. The only way to keep the whole system form crashing down is to keep people consuming, and if they have lost income or are apprehensive about their income and not spending then .gov as NO CHOICE but to inject cash directly to people to promote consumption. There are no options other than total economic collapse. There will be many more trillion dollar stimulus bills before this is over, and the would be no matter who is president. The truth is the Federal Reserve controls the pace of the economy. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:18:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar: The never_trumper and doomer correlation is easy. This lock down is just the next step of the coup that began the day after the '16 election, so never_trumpers became doomers easily; they support the coup.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DarkStar: Originally Posted By jmftexas: Agreed, incredible correlation between members that are never trumpers and doomers. The never_trumper and doomer correlation is easy. This lock down is just the next step of the coup that began the day after the '16 election, so never_trumpers became doomers easily; they support the coup. People you don't like aren't allied just because you don't like them. Doomer correlates highly with people who haven't seen economic impact, or don't understand where food comes from. Sure that means a lot of DNC gov workers and leftist urbanites, but it's even more represented among retired elderly, many of whom back Trump. I'm a total flubro who has been mostly correct about this particular crisis from the outset, and I frequently point out Trump's failings and betrayals (which makes me a NeverTrumper in the eyes of many) |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:18:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rem700PSS: These are completely normal times that warrant no extra action and should be judged as normal. Remember the 1950s and 1980s? That's what I want and that's my benchmark of success. The 80’s has the Amnesty for illegal aliens and a the FOPA MG ban. Hard pass. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:19:18 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By California_Kid: He's a dessert topping and a floor polish. LOL, haven't heard that one in a while 
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:20:32 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: I agree, the thread started out mildly 'off' and quickly went full blown retard I don't think anyone's actually refuted the OP, yet, LOL TDS is a very double-edged form of stupid. OP is, at best, a milquetoast "conservative" in the mold of Bill Kristol. Like Bill, he has no answers or solution. He's just taking pot shots at the one guy with real power that's on our side. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:22:48 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jtrunch: Yes, taking advantage of bankruptcy laws 4 times is awesome. So if you take your social security you are FSA, if you use bankruptcy laws to refuse to pay your debts, or simply don't pay them and make people sue you to get paid you are a "great businessman". Seems legit. What's going to be funny is how Trump functions as an ex-President (in 2020 or 2024, whenever it is). Having 52% of the nation absolutely despise you on every level while 30% is apathetic at best and ~20ish% love you isn't a great recipe for future success. If there's ever an example of making your own bed that will be it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jtrunch: Originally Posted By M4: Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic: Hes running the government like he ran his businesses For the most part, wildly successfully. Yes, taking advantage of bankruptcy laws 4 times is awesome. So if you take your social security you are FSA, if you use bankruptcy laws to refuse to pay your debts, or simply don't pay them and make people sue you to get paid you are a "great businessman". Seems legit. What's going to be funny is how Trump functions as an ex-President (in 2020 or 2024, whenever it is). Having 52% of the nation absolutely despise you on every level while 30% is apathetic at best and ~20ish% love you isn't a great recipe for future success. If there's ever an example of making your own bed that will be it. I'd rather be loved by a few than mildly accepted by many. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:22:57 PM EST
[#30]
Oh look, another snowflake that wasn't able to use their 35% off coupon. Show us some better options for President.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:25:25 PM EST
[#31]
I hope you get better.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:25:30 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: People you don't like aren't allied just because you don't like them. Doomer correlates highly with people who haven't seen economic impact, or don't understand where food comes from. Sure that means a lot of DNC gov workers and leftist urbanites, but it's even more represented among retired elderly, many of whom back Trump. I'm a total flubro who has been mostly correct about this particular crisis from the outset, and I frequently point out Trump's failings and betrayals (which makes me a NeverTrumper in the eyes of many) There is a strong doomer correlation with antiTrump forces, perhaps because they want to continue to harm the economy to harm Trump, or else because they are natural authoritarians, or because they believe in following whatever "experts" say. Also, I don't think you are a nevertrumper. You have been on the right side in the various deep state coup threads. I think your antiTrump rants are wrong in the bigger context, because the real threat isn't things like bumpstock bans but the deep state attempted takeover. Personally I think the deepstate will win, but if it does we will be faced with very bad options. In a sense, I think you are too worried about "first world problems" when we are at risk of becoming third world. If the deep state wins, I'd prefer the government to be broke. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:26:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcbowflex: I hold the view that no matter who is the "president" the strings of the State will always be pulled in favor of expanding the State. They're all just puppets being controlled. I'd call myself a Never Governmenter at this point. There's no restoring or even repairing what we had. It's rotten to the core. Who is controlling Trump? I got to hear the answer to this. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:27:32 PM EST
[#34]
Trump 2020
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:28:54 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K5FAL: Tell us about those 'otrher options'? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K5FAL: Originally Posted By Alnen123: So the best economy in generations was his doing, but the shitty economy is not? Because he chose to shut down the country? He owns the shutdown directly. And for what? We have shitheads with low iq keep voting for the lesser of two evils. There are other options. The status quo runs without any fear of repercussions. Tell us about those 'otrher options'? Primary voting... People want to be on the winning team, It’s human nature. They would rather be able To say that their guy won, than admit their Guy lost, even if the loser was a better candidate. Then we run into the, He doesn’t stand a chance I’m not going to waste my vote crowd. Until people start risking their pride and take a chance on the best candidate and not the guy who’s most likely to win things will only get worse. I’m glad the President was elected, we could have done better... maybe next time. 
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:29:30 PM EST
[#36]
Lol.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:31:41 PM EST
[#37]
C'mon never Trumpers ...
Say something stupid again I need a good laugh |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:32:16 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jtrunch: Yes, taking advantage of bankruptcy laws 4 times is awesome. So if you take your social security you are FSA, if you use bankruptcy laws to refuse to pay your debts, or simply don't pay them and make people sue you to get paid you are a "great businessman". Seems legit. What's going to be funny is how Trump functions as an ex-President (in 2020 or 2024, whenever it is). Having 52% of the nation absolutely despise you on every level while 30% is apathetic at best and ~20ish% love you isn't a great recipe for future success. If there's ever an example of making your own bed that will be it. My mom, who was an MBA used to tell me that you never want the guy who’s never failed in the leadership position, you want the guy who’s tried, failed and got back up to try again. Leftist bullshit loves to denigrate that type because they really have no match for it. The contractors, that the press claims were “ripped off” by Trump were actually ripped off by the GC that hired them. If I pay disbursements to a GC to pay subs and they mismanage or embezzle those funds, why would I be on the hook to pay twice? |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:34:29 PM EST
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I thought this was the "how much money would it take for you to become a instrument of the chinese communist party " thread..
I wonder op, how much? |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:34:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huntsman2448: Oh look, another snowflake that wasn't able to use their 35% off coupon. Show us some better options for President. But it was HER turn!  |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:36:10 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alnen123: If you don't have a logical argument, call names. That's how you do it. I mean, THAT'SHOWYOUDOIT. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alnen123: Originally Posted By TEXASROOTERSBROTHER: You are either a dumb fuck or A democrat troll I'm thinking in Arfcom Tradition BOTH But that's ok in Trumps America we have room for everybody, even Dumb Fuck Democrat Trolls. If you don't have a logical argument, call names. That's how you do it. I mean, THAT'SHOWYOUDOIT. You said trump is a dumb**** or a Traitor That's how you did it. Your The one who started name calling and your statement is troll bullshit. You are the name caller. Show me your Logical Argument. Trump has done damn good as far as I am concerned. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:36:40 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never_Trumper thread. TDS is a mental disorder... |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:36:56 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Calogerowasright: Primary voting... People want to be on the winning team, It’s human nature. They would rather be able To say that their guy won, than admit their Guy lost, even if the loser was a better candidate. Then we run into the, He doesn’t stand a chance I’m not going to waste my vote crowd. Until people start risking their pride and take a chance on the best candidate and not the guy who’s most likely to win things will only get worse. I’m glad the President was elected, we could have done better... maybe next time. I thought Trump was a joke candidate, now I think he was the best choice in '16. And we had a wide field that year, but most were awful. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:38:09 PM EST
[#44]
I was completely fed up with Trump, then he sent me $1200. I don't trust him or expect anything good, but he did buy me a gun, which no other president ever has.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:40:57 PM EST
[#45]
Who is this wanker?
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:41:10 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jtrunch: Yes, taking advantage of bankruptcy laws 4 times is awesome. So if you take your social security you are FSA, if you use bankruptcy laws to refuse to pay your debts, or simply don't pay them and make people sue you to get paid you are a "great businessman". Seems legit. What's going to be funny is how Trump functions as an ex-President (in 2020 or 2024, whenever it is). Having 52% of the nation absolutely despise you on every level while 30% is apathetic at best and ~20ish% love you isn't a great recipe for future success. If there's ever an example of making your own bed that will be it. So 52% are brain dead sheep that suckle every word from CNN. No cure for stupidity. BTW, would a 99% success rate be bad? |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:42:39 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: There is a strong doomer correlation with antiTrump forces, perhaps because they want to continue to harm the economy to harm Trump, or else because they are natural authoritarians, or because they believe in following whatever "experts" say. Also, I don't think you are a nevertrumper. You have been on the right side in the various deep state coup threads. I think your antiTrump rants are wrong in the bigger context, because the real threat isn't things like bumpstock bans but the deep state attempted takeover. Personally I think the deepstate will win, but if it does we will be faced with very bad options. In a sense, I think you are too worried about "first world problems" when we are at risk of becoming third world. If the deep state wins, I'd prefer the government to be broke. They need Trump to fail because of the strong dislike of his personality. Most of the people I encounter that hate him do so because of his appearance, speech or mannerisms... I call it the “Rodney Dangerfield” syndrome. It’s usually some asshole who thinks “Presidential” is an actual personality type, lol. Obama was “Presidential” and an absolute scum sucking, shitball. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:43:19 PM EST
[#48]
OP I think you are a little confused about this.
Biden's Chicom buddies served up the world and the US a big fat shit sandwich. We were going to all have to take a bite out of that sandwich. The choices were to absorb the tremendous financial impact or provide a stimulus (paid for with debt) to buffer the impact. Neither one were good choices. Both suck. The problem with the stimulus package is that the filthy ass Democrats put so much worthless pork in it. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:45:13 PM EST
[#49]
OP stop. Stoooppp.
This is supposed to be The Wiggles for Gun Guys. Go take your freethinking and independence elsewhere. Okay Arfcom where were we? “Hot Potato Hot Potato....” |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:45:56 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CorruptBureaucrat: I was completely fed up with Trump, then he sent me $1200. I don't trust him or expect anything good, but he did buy me a gun, which no other president ever has. Username checks out. |
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