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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:05:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: The Constitution has been mostly sidelined since FDR anyway. The immediate threat is to our understanding of the remaining rule of law within the context of the sidelined Constitution. While our federal government has engaged in massive over-reach, we have remained a functional republic with political power shifting under the control of citizens. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: Many of those disillusioned or upset with Trump fail to see what he represents and who his enemies are in the government. It is very disturbing to see people caught up with bills he signs into law, that would get signed no matter what or who was in office because of the corruption that exist beneath it all. There is something bigger and more scandalous than any bill Trump has signed right in front of us that is an existential threat to the constitution and Bill of rights and only Trump can bring it to light and exterminate it. Threads like this pose as nothing but a distraction. The Constitution has been mostly sidelined since FDR anyway. The immediate threat is to our understanding of the remaining rule of law within the context of the sidelined Constitution. While our federal government has engaged in massive over-reach, we have remained a functional republic with political power shifting under the control of citizens. I agree, except... The Constitution is the rule of law. Neither Trump nor his justices have done a very good job defending it, to date. His judges are maybe starting to make a small difference. What you are really saying is palace intrigue is the great threat; I disagree. Whether my desired turd sandwich is elected or cheated is a practical distant matter compared to my right to own property and earn a living. The two don't exist in a vacuum of course, but one is decidedly more immediate. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:06:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheNorth: There's no gold backed money anymore. Our country is run off of debt. It's all smoke and mirrors man, just numbers on a screen. As long as money is circulating we're fine. 150,000,000,000,000 in debt? Who gives a fuck, as long as the dollars are rolling, that's all that matters. But we stopped the money from circulating, because we got scared. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:12:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: I don't know, I'd prefer he veto it. But no doubt there are political calculations, for example he could have shut down Mueller's investigation but didn't (he would have been impeached if did that), he could have pardoned Flynn and Stone but didn't. The Patriot Act is more of a steady-state or long term concern, vs the more immediate concern of dealing with the deep state coup attempts. The proper way to do it is probably to clean up the existing mess, then clean up the underlying government powers that enable it. Get all the facts of what happened out there, show what they did, then make sure that it can't be done again by reforming the system. I'll put it this way: he has a base of some 40%, while another 40% oppose him at all costs. The other 20% are skeptical. That's not a mandate for major changes, particularly with the media influence, hence he has to be careful what he does. He needs over 50% support getting rid of fisa courts, etc. He needs to make the case and get the support FIRST. Take too big of step too soon, lose everything. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: Any theories Don? I don't know, I'd prefer he veto it. But no doubt there are political calculations, for example he could have shut down Mueller's investigation but didn't (he would have been impeached if did that), he could have pardoned Flynn and Stone but didn't. The Patriot Act is more of a steady-state or long term concern, vs the more immediate concern of dealing with the deep state coup attempts. The proper way to do it is probably to clean up the existing mess, then clean up the underlying government powers that enable it. Get all the facts of what happened out there, show what they did, then make sure that it can't be done again by reforming the system. I'll put it this way: he has a base of some 40%, while another 40% oppose him at all costs. The other 20% are skeptical. That's not a mandate for major changes, particularly with the media influence, hence he has to be careful what he does. He needs over 50% support getting rid of fisa courts, etc. He needs to make the case and get the support FIRST. Take too big of step too soon, lose everything. What does successfully completing step one, "cleaning up the existing mess" actually look like? Because the libs working for the government will never stop resisting however they can. Always helps to have specific criteria. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:14:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EarlyRiser: When I voted in 2016, there were two choices, Trump and Clinton. Will you support Uncle Joe in November? Also, the Supreme Court nominations are kind of important. You have kids? What would you like the future of this country to look like? Not more of the same, which is why we must keep voting for more of the same. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:15:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: See my post above. But consider if Trump vetoed Patriot Act. The Democrats and media would rally for Patriot Act, and his veto would likely become part of the next articles of impeachment. The establishment Republicans would not support him on this. This would be pushed as his gift to Putin. Do you understand how that would unfold? Trump has been careful negotiating this mess. That's why he is still there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: Lol why does Trump keep extending the patriot act? See my post above. But consider if Trump vetoed Patriot Act. The Democrats and media would rally for Patriot Act, and his veto would likely become part of the next articles of impeachment. The establishment Republicans would not support him on this. This would be pushed as his gift to Putin. Do you understand how that would unfold? Trump has been careful negotiating this mess. That's why he is still there. Careful, or ineffective? Potato, potato. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:16:43 PM EDT
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Op is the joke here. What a pathetically ignorant at best/patently stupid at worst, thread thesis. Not even going to waste any more time on a never-Trumper/democrat/Marxist with an obvious agenda attempt at obfuscation and "projection."
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:17:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seatbelts: Lol Never Trumpets trying to pretend like there were ever conservatives to begin with. Fair point. People with actual beliefs have only ever comprised about 15% of the population. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:19:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Normalcy bias. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: His judges have killed every bill that has come before the Supreme Court that I cared about. Why would I expect things to suddenly change? I will vote out the backstabbing incumbent in the hopes that in 4 years we can do better. Normalcy bias. A pattern that all evidence points to continuing it's trend is not "normalcy bias" it is educated prediction. Not a guarantee, but depending on the evidence, an expression of likely odds. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:21:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: And every illegal corrupt action taken under the act is gone along with it. Do you want accountability? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: Any theories Don? I don't know, I'd prefer he veto it. But no doubt there are political calculations, for example he could have shut down Mueller's investigation but didn't (he would have been impeached if did that), he could have pardoned Flynn and Stone but didn't. The Patriot Act is more of a steady-state or long term concern, vs the more immediate concern of dealing with the deep state coup attempts. The proper way to do it is probably to clean up the existing mess, then clean up the underlying government powers that enable it. Get all the facts of what happened out there, show what they did, then make sure that it can't be done again by reforming the system. I'll put it this way: he has a base of some 40%, while another 40% oppose him at all costs. The other 20% are skeptical. That's not a mandate for major changes, particularly with the media influence, hence he has to be careful what he does. He needs over 50% support getting rid of fisa courts, etc. He needs to make the case and get the sup port FIRST. Take too big of step too soon, lose everything. All he had to do was/is not sign the extension and it is gone. He didn’t need the support of anyone, you know this. And every illegal corrupt action taken under the act is gone along with it. Do you want accountability? We have to extend it so we can throw it out in court?  If the choice is settling political scores or dismantling the Patriot Act...I know which one impacts me personally a lot more. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:22:54 PM EDT
[#10]
Yeah, President Biden would be sooooo muiuuuuch better
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:24:34 PM EDT
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Oh yea they are going to dismantle the Patriot Act. That must be why we got a Patriot Act judge confirmed to scotus
 The fucking cocked up theories on here are |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:39:52 PM EDT
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Trump is more of the same.
That must be why everyone is trying to get rid of him. The Swamp definitely does not want to have a President that will feed them same as before. Some of You guys are fucking funny. Like HaHa you amuse me. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:44:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: “Not with your hand, with my hand!” I love that scene. Hey op, what wizardry would you use to solve the problem? The man created the strongest economy we've ever had up until the Kungflu. I'm sure he knows what he's doing. The other party on the other hand is trying to rape the country. Keep that in mind. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:50:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: Bwahahaha, what a joke. Yes, you are pretty much that. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:50:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: We have to extend it so we can throw it out in court? If the choice is settling political scores or dismantling the Patriot Act...I know which one impacts me personally a lot more. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: Any theories Don? I don't know, I'd prefer he veto it. But no doubt there are political calculations, for example he could have shut down Mueller's investigation but didn't (he would have been impeached if did that), he could have pardoned Flynn and Stone but didn't. The Patriot Act is more of a steady-state or long term concern, vs the more immediate concern of dealing with the deep state coup attempts. The proper way to do it is probably to clean up the existing mess, then clean up the underlying government powers that enable it. Get all the facts of what happened out there, show what they did, then make sure that it can't be done again by reforming the system. I'll put it this way: he has a base of some 40%, while another 40% oppose him at all costs. The other 20% are skeptical. That's not a mandate for major changes, particularly with the media influence, hence he has to be careful what he does. He needs over 50% support getting rid of fisa courts, etc. He needs to make the case and get the sup port FIRST. Take too big of step too soon, lose everything. All he had to do was/is not sign the extension and it is gone. He didn’t need the support of anyone, you know this. And every illegal corrupt action taken under the act is gone along with it. Do you want accountability? We have to extend it so we can throw it out in court? If the choice is settling political scores or dismantling the Patriot Act...I know which one impacts me personally a lot more. Political scores certainly impact you more. You see the BS we're living in right now...its not because of the patriot act. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:51:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By clffrdjk: How is making them stronger the smart play? The dem base hates it, the republican base hates it, the only people that like it are the deep state. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By clffrdjk: Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: All he had to do was/is not sign the extension and it is gone. He didn’t need the support of anyone, you know this. Yes, just as he could have fired Mueller. But he didn't, he played it smart. How is making them stronger the smart play? The dem base hates it, the republican base hates it, the only people that like it are the deep state. No kidding; he wasn't impeached for firing Comey or McCabe, it was for a totally separate scam. If he'd fired Mueller we'd have already forgotten that guy's name by now and be much farther along prosecuting the counter offensive. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:52:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EarlyRiser: We talking about W? He’s a Clinton supporter, like OP. I wish there were better options for presidential candidates that would be more supportive of gun rights. What person in their right mind would actually want to be president in the first place? I'm a Clinton supporter because I don't like nyc liberals or out of control spending, and do like guns, freedom, the Constitution, personal accountability, due process? I don't think the discussion between you and I is going very far. Your blind love for the orange messiah truly has no end and will be justified in your own mind no matter what. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:56:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By clffrdjk: Bumpstock injunction Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By clffrdjk: Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: Both killed gun cases I cared about. Show me how his picks would be any worse, try to use better logic than your “we must strengthen the deep state in order to kill the deep state” defense. Which gun case did Gorsuch kill? Bumpstock injunction Had the gall to say "just because I'm not doing anything to solve the matter, doesn't mean I don't care about it." LOL Thanks to him, all bumpfire stocks are legally destroyed contraband, so one of the easiest avenues of gaining standing to challenge the suit is gone (to do so would be self-incriminating) |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Discolite: https://media.giphy.com/media/ic19JguTh8H6Tm7ack/giphy.gif “Trump is good, Trump is good. Yeah-Yeah Trump is good , Trump is good. Drain the Swamp, Drain the Swamp. Whoa whoa. Emails, Emails La Laaa EMAILS” In 20 years we’ll cringe at the Trump dick sucking. I don’t want Biden but JFC... In 20 years we'll either be at war with eachother, or useless Trump memberberries will have replaced useless Reagan memberberries. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:01:03 PM EDT
[#21]
I like him ok. Reckon I'll vote for him again.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:02:41 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Trump is gone then they pass a new, improved Patriot Act and add in the gunpower taggants and all the stuff they wanted in the 90s. Biden signs it. If you haven't noticed, the big fight is between Trump and the deep state. Trump needs to win that fight. If Trump loses 2020, the deep state wins, since all the investigation into them will end. The legislation doesn't matter short term, and can be passed again later. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: And then what? The deep state loses their biggest tool and Trump faces a possible impeachment (so what) You argument was that the deep state was the biggest threat ever and no you are saying Trump is more important than killing the deep state, WHY? Trump is gone then they pass a new, improved Patriot Act and add in the gunpower taggants and all the stuff they wanted in the 90s. Biden signs it. If you haven't noticed, the big fight is between Trump and the deep state. Trump needs to win that fight. If Trump loses 2020, the deep state wins, since all the investigation into them will end. The legislation doesn't matter short term, and can be passed again later. What does winning that fight look like? If that victory timeline is four or more years out, and his administration ends having squandered all its resources on that fight, is it even a victory? Until people go to jail or die, there's nothing stopping the gang from getting back together in the FBI/CIA/NSA/State Dept. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:03:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: So you don't want accountability, you want vigilante justice. While I understand your sentiment and I have the same feelings, the law is on our side and we have someone in the perfect spot to carry out real justice and hold people accountable. Of course the arrogant 'above the law' tyrants have a defense. That's because the law hasn't caught up with them. They took what was suppose to be used for terrorist and foreign infiltrators and used it against Americans. Thats unheard of and unprecedented. Believe it or not, they are on the run, trying to justify what they did. You ever work with that one guy who had all the right tools at his disposal, was in the perfect spot at the right time, could have really made a difference... But he just sat there like a limp dildo and didn't do a got dam thing with the opportunity? That is Trump, in the absolutely most optimistic of attitudes. But I'm sensing a much more malicious intent here. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:04:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sneadhearn: Step one: Look for sand in your vagina Step two: Wash sand from your vagina Step three: ???? Step four: Profit So I see your in OR... Is that Portland? |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:05:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By clffrdjk: Listen to yourself. You are defending the guy building the deep state out of fear that if he didn’t someone else might build the deep state. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By clffrdjk: Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: And then what? The deep state loses their biggest tool and Trump faces a possible impeachment (so what) You argument was that the deep state was the biggest threat ever and no you are saying Trump is more important than killing the deep state, WHY? Trump is gone then they pass a new, improved Patriot Act and add in the gunpower taggants and all the stuff they wanted in the 90s. Biden signs it. If you haven't noticed, the big fight is between Trump and the deep state. Trump needs to win that fight. If Trump loses 2020, the deep state wins, since all the investigation into them will end. The legislation doesn't matter short term, and can be passed again later. Listen to yourself. You are defending the guy building the deep state out of fear that if he didn’t someone else might build the deep state. I swear I've seen that argument somewhere before around here, lol |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:05:07 PM EDT
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You are a cuck.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:07:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nyrifle: Trump is more of the same. That must be why everyone is trying to get rid of him. The Swamp definitely does not want to have a President that will feed them same as before. Some of You guys are fucking funny. Like HaHa you amuse me. The guy above you says the 3+ year war against Trump by the left is just political theater. 
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:12:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider: Well, they have spent more than 4 fucking years bitching daily about something that they absolutely want changed, but absolutely refuse to put in the effort to change...They have yet to even be able to name a viable candidate, let alone one that could actually represent all on the right and center, that actually could stand a chance of winning an election..Let alone actually put forth the effort to get said candidate introduced and promoted to the voters...  Sometimes it is just much easier and feels better to just bitch to bitch... Oh yeah, this guy; shits all over literally anything that doesn't come straight from Trump's Twitter feed, then struts around saying "why don't you offer an alternative? See, there isn't one!" Well, when you drill holes in the boat, smash the bailing buckets, and toss the oars overboard, there ain't much choice left but sinking. That doesn't mean there wasn't another way to stay afloat, though. I simply propose we toss overboard the crew that punch holes in the boat, even if they do bail some water in so doing. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:18:05 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alnen123: I'm a Clinton supporter because I don't like nyc liberals or out of control spending, and do like guns, freedom, the Constitution, personal accountability, due process? I don't think the discussion between you and I is going very far. Your blind love for the orange messiah truly has no end and will be justified in your own mind no matter what. wow.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alnen123: You ever work with that one guy who had all the right tools at his disposal, was in the perfect spot at the right time, could have really made a difference... But he just sat there like a limp dildo and didn't do a got dam thing with the opportunity? That is Trump, in the absolutely most optimistic of attitudes. But I'm sensing a much more malicious intent here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alnen123: Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: So you don't want accountability, you want vigilante justice. While I understand your sentiment and I have the same feelings, the law is on our side and we have someone in the perfect spot to carry out real justice and hold people accountable. Of course the arrogant 'above the law' tyrants have a defense. That's because the law hasn't caught up with them. They took what was suppose to be used for terrorist and foreign infiltrators and used it against Americans. Thats unheard of and unprecedented. Believe it or not, they are on the run, trying to justify what they did. You ever work with that one guy who had all the right tools at his disposal, was in the perfect spot at the right time, could have really made a difference... But he just sat there like a limp dildo and didn't do a got dam thing with the opportunity? That is Trump, in the absolutely most optimistic of attitudes. But I'm sensing a much more malicious intent here. Yes, maybe this is also why Trump irks me so much; I see an unprecedented opportunity almost entirely wasted. At least any other nominee wouldn't have been at war with his own party for the first two years and could have actually done something of consequence. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:19:35 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: That's part of it (and my distaste for his personality is rooted in experience with bullshitters, not simple aesthetics) but at this point I'm used to him and it's about his policies & actions. Biggest gun grab, economic collapse, and spending spree in all of American history so far. But he hasn't got us in the biggest war ever with China yet so it's not all bad. It's kinda looking like we may need to break that last seal to address the global deflation*, though, same as we did with WWII. *Historically, deflation spirals have only ended after sufficient destruction of life, liberty, and property result in economic activity resuming for the purpose of bare survival. That's why we should try to avoid those spirals at all costs, by not doing things like shutting down all sectors of the economy for any period of time, no matter the reason. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: Originally Posted By tsg68: Originally Posted By DonS: There is a strong doomer correlation with antiTrump forces, perhaps because they want to continue to harm the economy to harm Trump, or else because they are natural authoritarians, or because they believe in following whatever "experts" say. Also, I don't think you are a nevertrumper. You have been on the right side in the various deep state coup threads. I think your antiTrump rants are wrong in the bigger context, because the real threat isn't things like bumpstock bans but the deep state attempted takeover. Personally I think the deepstate will win, but if it does we will be faced with very bad options. In a sense, I think you are too worried about "first world problems" when we are at risk of becoming third world. If the deep state wins, I'd prefer the government to be broke. They need Trump to fail because of the strong dislike of his personality. Most of the people I encounter that hate him do so because of his appearance, speech or mannerisms... I call it the “Rodney Dangerfield” syndrome. It’s usually some asshole who thinks “Presidential” is an actual personality type, lol. Obama was “Presidential” and an absolute scum sucking, shitball. That's part of it (and my distaste for his personality is rooted in experience with bullshitters, not simple aesthetics) but at this point I'm used to him and it's about his policies & actions. Biggest gun grab, economic collapse, and spending spree in all of American history so far. But he hasn't got us in the biggest war ever with China yet so it's not all bad. It's kinda looking like we may need to break that last seal to address the global deflation*, though, same as we did with WWII. *Historically, deflation spirals have only ended after sufficient destruction of life, liberty, and property result in economic activity resuming for the purpose of bare survival. That's why we should try to avoid those spirals at all costs, by not doing things like shutting down all sectors of the economy for any period of time, no matter the reason. I was going to reply with similar about his perceived personality. I don't mind a cocky person, if it's warranted. Hell, with a good president, I'd prefer it. But there is more to this than that. His attitude is directly in line with those of people I've encountered who are some of the most ingenuine, selfish, and surface deep pieces of shit I've known. It's not just one comment or thing he's said, it's a culmination of everything. Tweets bashing the left could be a redeeming quality, but it's not nearly enough for this type of person. More importantly, his actions have been a direct attack on the American people. Many the same ones that voted him in. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:30:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: Oh yeah, this guy; shits all over literally anything that doesn't come straight from Trump's Twitter feed, then struts around saying "why don't you offer an alternative? See, there isn't one!" Well, when you drill holes in the boat, smash the bailing buckets, and toss the oars overboard, there ain't much choice left but sinking. That doesn't mean there wasn't another way to stay afloat, though. I simply propose we toss overboard the crew that punch holes in the boat, even if they do bail some water in so doing. Ah, poor guy..nobody will vote for who I want...Here is a clue for all you N_T's..Nobody gives a shit what you want. If you want somebody better, than go find somebody better, fund them, promote them and get them elected...It takes about 65 million voters to get what you want..short of that all you have is 4 more years of bitching and zero fucking answers...Final fact, that dream 2A candidate you want, he doesn't exist and he hasn't for 200 plus years...Or you can squander your vote either by not voting or voting for the enemy and prove even better your total lack of common sense and understanding...nobody cares... 
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:31:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: You are a cuck. Yup. The difference is I won’t go back to the guy sleeping with my wife and ask for him to do it again. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:34:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:36:46 PM EDT
[#35]
Goodness...
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Posted: 5/15/2020 7:40:11 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: I swear I've seen that argument somewhere before around here, lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By clffrdjk: And then what? The deep state loses their biggest tool and Trump faces a possible impeachment (so what) You argument was that the deep state was the biggest threat ever and no you are saying Trump is more important than killing the deep state, WHY? Trump is gone then they pass a new, improved Patriot Act and add in the gunpower taggants and all the stuff they wanted in the 90s. Biden signs it. If you haven't noticed, the big fight is between Trump and the deep state. Trump needs to win that fight. If Trump loses 2020, the deep state wins, since all the investigation into them will end. The legislation doesn't matter short term, and can be passed again later. Listen to yourself. You are defending the guy building the deep state out of fear that if he didn’t someone else might build the deep state. I swear I've seen that argument somewhere before around here, lol No kidding. Some things I just don’t understand. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:00:39 PM EDT
[#37]
He isn’t a traitor, and I think he likes America. He is just old and dumb as shit.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:01:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:10:37 PM EDT
[#39]
NeverTrumper fools. They never learn.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:15:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Never_Trumpers are the same as liberals to me they just wan’t to bitch if the democrats take control the never_trumpers will be happy as pigs in mud. It’s all about having things to bitch about. I can’t wait to see all the quality bitching about assault weapon bans, gun bans, etc from all the never_trumpers and their posts about wont comply but what’s the best pvc pipe to use so I can bury my guns for a 100 years. It’s comical how retarded they are.
FN_T, FNP Flibs Fdeep_State Trump Train 2020 
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:17:48 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samsonxd73: Never_Trumpers are the same as liberals to me they just wan’t to bitch if the democrats take control the never_trumpers will be happy as pigs in mud. It’s all about having things to bitch about. I can’t wait to see all the quality bitching about assault weapon bans, gun bans, etc from all the never_trumpers and their posts about wont comply but what’s the best pvc pipe to use so I can bury my guns for a 100 years. It’s comical how retarded they are. FN_T, FNP Flibs Fdeep_State Trump Train 2020 Won’t be able to do any of that with the warrantless wire tapping and Trump supported red flag laws. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:18:56 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samsonxd73: Never_Trumpers are the same as liberals to me they just wan’t to bitch if the democrats take control the never_trumpers will be happy as pigs in mud. It’s all about having things to bitch about. I can’t wait to see all the quality bitching about assault weapon bans, gun bans, etc from all the never_trumpers and their posts about wont comply but what’s the best pvc pipe to use so I can bury my guns for a 100 years. It’s comical how retarded they are. FN_T, FNP Flibs Fdeep_State Trump Train 2020 Obama was more friendly to gun owners than Trump has been. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:19:34 PM EDT
[#43]
Probably just a dumbass. Lots of dumbasses around, not that many legit traitors. People like him because he's mean to people they don't like.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:22:41 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samsonxd73: Never_Trumpers are the same as liberals to me they just wan’t to bitch if the democrats take control the never_trumpers will be happy as pigs in mud. It’s all about having things to bitch about. I can’t wait to see all the quality bitching about assault weapon bans, gun bans, etc from all the never_trumpers and their posts about wont comply but what’s the best pvc pipe to use so I can bury my guns for a 100 years. It’s comical how retarded they are. FN_T, FNP Flibs Fdeep_State Trump Train 2020 Choo choo! Does the guy in front at least get a reach around? |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:23:47 PM EDT
[#45]
Which one is the OP?
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:25:29 PM EDT
[#46]
I haven’t read this entire thread, but in case it hasn’t been said, he was blind THE WHOLE TIME!!!
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:25:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:26:02 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider: Ah, poor guy..nobody will vote for who I want...Here is a clue for all you N_T's..Nobody gives a shit what you want. If you want somebody better, than go find somebody better, fund them, promote them and get them elected...It takes about 65 million voters to get what you want..short of that all you have is 4 more years of bitching and zero fucking answers...Final fact, that dream 2A candidate you want, he doesn't exist and he hasn't for 200 plus years...Or you can squander your vote either by not voting or voting for the enemy and prove even better your total lack of common sense and understanding...nobody cares... We have answers. You just want to vote in the funny tweet guy even though he is counter to every week belief you claim to have. He has an R next to his name, so fuck it amiright? |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:27:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll admit there has been a lot of non-MAGA stuff happening lately. But what can he do? With every MAGA move he makes, the MSM jackals will be nipping at his heels again. Half of America is in zombie mode, controlled by MSM, daytime talk shows, entertainment media, etc. Hint: Maybe the "Invisible Enemy" isn't a virus (and it isn't T$ either). |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:27:43 PM EDT
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