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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:49:43 AM EDT
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You're in TEXAS. Burn that bitch down.
*I have no idea if it's against any laws though. But who would know what happened to it? Just tell them the building is gone and to stop appraising it. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:49:54 AM EDT
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Depending on area you might get ticketed/in trouble from the fire chief.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:49:58 AM EDT
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Say I own a uninhabitable building in a rural area and I don't want to pay taxes on the improvements any more. The closest neighbor is probably a quarter mile away. It doesn't have insurance on it so i wouldn't be trying to make a claim on it. The cost to demolish it seems like it is worth more than the tax savings. Can I just burn it down? I burn brush piles all the time out here without any problems. can you see if a local fire department can use it for training? just an idea |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:50:03 AM EDT
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Its only arson if you try to collect money on the fire.
I'd just give the local FD a heads up and go ahead and burn it down. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:50:30 AM EDT
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Any HAZMAT in the building that would be released with a fire?
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:50:39 AM EDT
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Depending on area you might get ticketed/in trouble from the fire chief. Actually, call the fire chief, they may burn it down for you! Controlled burn, FTW. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:50:48 AM EDT
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You may need a burn permit.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:50:54 AM EDT
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Hell it's illegal to tear one down piece by piece and haul it away neatly without a permit in most cities or towns. So I'd check the with the local departments on it first.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:50:55 AM EDT
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Say I own a uninhabitable building in a rural area and I don't want to pay taxes on the improvements any more. The closest neighbor is probably a quarter mile away. It doesn't have insurance on it so i wouldn't be trying to make a claim on it. The cost to demolish it seems like it is worth more than the tax savings. Can I just burn it down? I burn brush piles all the time out here without any problems. Assuming it wouldn't be against any city/county/state codes/laws, then I can't see why not. I'd be careful of anything in the building that isn't supposed to be burned. Quoted:can you see if a local fire department can use it for training?
just an idea Damn fine one at that. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:50:57 AM EDT
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It will matter on local laws, but as long as you don't try to claim any insurance or endanger anyone when you do it, you should be fine. Lots of places would just get you for open burning without a permit.
Check with the local FD. They may want to do some training. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:51:38 AM EDT
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Say I own a uninhabitable building in a rural area and I don't want to pay taxes on the improvements any more. The closest neighbor is probably a quarter mile away. It doesn't have insurance on it so i wouldn't be trying to make a claim on it. The cost to demolish it seems like it is worth more than the tax savings. Can I just burn it down? I burn brush piles all the time out here without any problems. can you see if a local fire department can use it for training? just an idea This... And I think in the old days (covered wagon times) they would burn down their houses to recover the nails and other metal items used in construction. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:51:51 AM EDT
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Depending on area you might get ticketed/in trouble from the fire chief. Actually, call the fire chief, they may burn it down for you! Controlled burn, FTW. Yep, FDs do this for training purposes. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:51:58 AM EDT
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Say I own a uninhabitable building in a rural area and I don't want to pay taxes on the improvements any more. The closest neighbor is probably a quarter mile away. It doesn't have insurance on it so i wouldn't be trying to make a claim on it. The cost to demolish it seems like it is worth more than the tax savings. Can I just burn it down? I burn brush piles all the time out here without any problems. can you see if a local fire department can use it for training? just an idea this would be a good idea, but for sure, check with the fire dept to see if it is okay |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:53:09 AM EDT
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I am pretty sure if you let a local FD train/burn it you can use the structure value as a tax write-off
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:53:13 AM EDT
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The EPA will climb up your butt if it has shingles on the roof. If not, you can usually do so just by notifying the local fire dept. in advance. Most do so on a rainy day so as to not start a grass/brush fire. They go amazingly quickly.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:53:58 AM EDT
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I am pretty sure if you let a local FD train/burn it you can use the structure value as a tax write-off This! |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:54:07 AM EDT
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Just tell them a Possum did it.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:54:37 AM EDT
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Say I own a uninhabitable building in a rural area and I don't want to pay taxes on the improvements any more. The closest neighbor is probably a quarter mile away. It doesn't have insurance on it so i wouldn't be trying to make a claim on it. The cost to demolish it seems like it is worth more than the tax savings. Can I just burn it down? I burn brush piles all the time out here without any problems. can you see if a local fire department can use it for training? just an idea Good idea. Thank you. It's a voulenteer FD out here and I'm sure they would appreciate the training. I'm going to get in contact with them |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:55:12 AM EDT
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as long as you aren't going to try and claim insurance or some other fraud, then you should be good - providing you don't burn down the countryside.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:55:14 AM EDT
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Say I own a uninhabitable building in a rural area and I don't want to pay taxes on the improvements any more. The closest neighbor is probably a quarter mile away. It doesn't have insurance on it so i wouldn't be trying to make a claim on it. The cost to demolish it seems like it is worth more than the tax savings. Can I just burn it down? I burn brush piles all the time out here without any problems. can you see if a local fire department can use it for training? just an idea Was gonna say the same thing. Here in my county in Alabama, the volunteer fire department would LOVE to be able to do the training on that. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:55:24 AM EDT
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I am pretty sure if you let a local FD train/burn it you can use the structure value as a tax write-off this for the win! Call the local FD and tell them what's up. they should be happy to help. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:55:48 AM EDT
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Call your local fire station and ask if they want to use the building for training. You burn it they learn shit. Win win?
I see someone else already had this idea. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:55:55 AM EDT
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You can here if you get a controlled burn permit (five bucks).
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:56:03 AM EDT
[#24]
If the FD can use it for training, you may even be able to write some of it off, AFAIK.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:56:07 AM EDT
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If the EPA bitches just tell them it must have been struck by lightning
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:56:09 AM EDT
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Say I own a uninhabitable building in a rural area and I don't want to pay taxes on the improvements any more. The closest neighbor is probably a quarter mile away. It doesn't have insurance on it so i wouldn't be trying to make a claim on it. The cost to demolish it seems like it is worth more than the tax savings. Can I just burn it down? I burn brush piles all the time out here without any problems. can you see if a local fire department can use it for training? just an idea Good idea. Thank you. It's a voulenteer FD out here and I'm sure they would appreciate the training. I'm going to get in contact with them Yep, this is the way to go. Our local VFD would never turn this opportunity down 
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:56:55 AM EDT
[#27]
Cover my gas money to get there & back and I'll do it for you. Then you're in the clear either way
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:57:01 AM EDT
[#28]
Might need a permit if you're in a city or town
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:57:16 AM EDT
[#29]
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Say I own a uninhabitable building in a rural area and I don't want to pay taxes on the improvements any more. The closest neighbor is probably a quarter mile away. It doesn't have insurance on it so i wouldn't be trying to make a claim on it. The cost to demolish it seems like it is worth more than the tax savings. Can I just burn it down? I burn brush piles all the time out here without any problems. can you see if a local fire department can use it for training? just an idea that is fucking brilliant! |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 6:58:05 AM EDT
[#30]
just set in on fire and call the fire dept.
building burns and they get training. problem solved. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:00:52 AM EDT
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just set in on fire and call the fire dept. building burns and they get training. problem solved. efficiency for the win 
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:00:54 AM EDT
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I am pretty sure if you let a local FD train/burn it you can use the structure value as a tax write-off Smart |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:01:34 AM EDT
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In Columbus, Ohio Kirk Herbstreit (ESPN) donated his house to the fire department AND deducted $330,000 from his taxes. He rebuilt on the same lot. Deduction was denied.
Herbstreit |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:01:38 AM EDT
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My FD doesn't accept buildings to burn for training. The amount of work you have to do to keep the EPA off your ass isn't worth it. You basically have to strip the house to the frame iirc.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:01:56 AM EDT
[#35]
torch it
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:02:59 AM EDT
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A lot of FDs won't do training burns like that anymore. Lots of BS involved.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:03:48 AM EDT
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Say I own a uninhabitable building in a rural area and I don't want to pay taxes on the improvements any more. The closest neighbor is probably a quarter mile away. It doesn't have insurance on it so i wouldn't be trying to make a claim on it. The cost to demolish it seems like it is worth more than the tax savings. Can I just burn it down? I burn brush piles all the time out here without any problems. can you see if a local fire department can use it for training? just an idea Good idea. Thank you. It's a voulenteer FD out here and I'm sure they would appreciate the training. I'm going to get in contact with them If they do it, be sure to post pics/video! |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:03:52 AM EDT
[#38]
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If the EPA bitches just tell them it must have been struck by lightning The EPA doesn't "bitch." 
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:05:03 AM EDT
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A lot of FDs won't do training burns like that anymore. Lots of BS involved. Yep....I tried to do that here last year. FD said there were too many liability issues involved now. Instead, I had to buy a burn permit ($3) and wait until the local "Fire Danger" condition dropped to "LOW" before I could torch the building. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:06:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: In Columbus, Ohio Kirk Herbstreit (ESPN) donated his house to the fire department AND deducted $330,000 from his taxes. He rebuilt on the same lot. Deduction was denied. Herbstreit If I'm reading that correctly the IRS claimed he deducted the cost of home and land....which you can't do. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:08:12 AM EDT
[#41]
I had an uncle with 2 old sheds on his property.
He called the fire department and they burned 'em down for free  Speed |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:10:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: In Columbus, Ohio Kirk Herbstreit (ESPN) donated his house to the fire department AND deducted $330,000 from his taxes. He rebuilt on the same lot. Deduction was denied. Herbstreit If I'm reading that correctly the IRS claimed he deducted the cost of home and land....which you can't do. Grady said the IRS makes that argument because the couples donated only the structures, not the land. But Grady argues that the contributions were the entire interests of each home and thus are allowable under tax law. He said both couples used only the appraised values of the homes as their deduction and didn't include the value of the land. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:11:26 AM EDT
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Just got off the phone with them. He said thanks but no thanks. They don't do it any more because the regulations and liability make it too complicated. No burn permits are needed. He ended the conversation by saying that there are a lot of environmental hoops to jump through but who would know if I just took a match to it
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:11:39 AM EDT
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Do you have a cow and an oil lantern, and a desire for BBQ?
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:12:23 AM EDT
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Just have a forget to put out a cigarette properly and flick it in a trash can full rags you cleaned a gas spill with...
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:13:05 AM EDT
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In Nebraska it has to be inspected for asbestos before it is burned down.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:14:49 AM EDT
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If there is anything of value in the building (copper wiring, plumbing, old fixtures, fancy doorknobs, nice woodwork, stained glass, etc.) there are some companies that will strip it all out in exchange for keeping it, demoing it, etc.
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:15:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: Just got off the phone with them. He said thanks but no thanks. They don't do it any more because the regulations and liability make it too complicated. No burn permits are needed. He ended the conversation by saying that there are a lot of environmental hoops to jump through but who would know if I just took a match to it .Cool, sounds simple enough and awesome you got a down to earth guy on the phone. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:15:52 AM EDT
[#49]
Contact your local fire department first, they may even burn it down for you.
Occasionally they do it around here for training purposes. |
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Posted: 10/31/2012 7:16:25 AM EDT
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Set fire to it then drive through it in a truck or on a motor cycle and film it from multiple angles
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