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Posted: 7/13/2022 10:12:37 AM EST
Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true.

A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues.

The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this.

Sorry, no pics at this time.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:17:43 AM EST
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Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true.

A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues.

The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this.

Sorry, no pics at this time.
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She is both, run away.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:19:08 AM EST
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Maybe bang her first but it seems you're intent on having some emotional connection.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:19:29 AM EST
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EJECT, EJECT, EJECT!!!!
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:19:51 AM EST
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Avoid this person if possible.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:20:22 AM EST
[#5]
People like that are best avoided at all costs.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:20:37 AM EST
[#6]
she sounds hot.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:21:39 AM EST
[#7]
hahahaha......yeah she's permanently damaged.

I wouldnt hit that with sparatcus's dick
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:21:50 AM EST
[#8]
Nut inside her
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:22:09 AM EST
[#9]
Need titty pics to decide if guilty with bad tits or guilty with good tits.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:22:23 AM EST
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She was addicted to multiple substances from 15-25? She has a firmly established habit of lying, professional grade. She ain't shaking that habit.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:22:23 AM EST
[#11]
Self medicating narcissist
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:22:26 AM EST
[#12]
OP stuck his dick in the crazy.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:22:40 AM EST
[#13]
In for Arfcom’s advice.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:22:52 AM EST
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Run away from this person.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:26:18 AM EST
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Twenty-five and has been addicted since mid teens. What's the recidivism rate at this stage near 100%?  I wouldn't, but you do you.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:27:31 AM EST
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Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8 10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true.

A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues.

The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this.

Sorry, no pics at this time.
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Before I got to this, it was what I was thinking.  You spend so many years telling lies it just comes natural, and you do not even think about what they might mean to other people. At least, that would be my guess, I have no real experience with people like that.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:28:07 AM EST
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Suspend all contact.
No good will ever come from your engagement with her.
You cannot save her. Don't try. You'll only end up entangling yourself in her web.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:28:19 AM EST
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pathological liar
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My step mom was a pathological liar and grifter. I know she committed Medicare fraud, I watched her forge signatures on paperwork.  Get as far away as you can and break all contact.

Worked for me.

I went to her funeral, just to make sure she was really dead.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:29:11 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:29:16 AM EST
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Hard no!
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:30:44 AM EST
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She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge.

The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this.
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The time she should have spent learning to be a functioning adult human was spent being a junkie. While exceptions exist, the pattern of being a manipulative attention whoring drama queen is set, and no combination of words and/or deeds you do is going to change that.

She's broken. Six months clean is nothing, and the ball is entirely in her court if she want's to shed her past, which includes the head games. Run.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:31:04 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:32:58 AM EST
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Before I got to this, it was what I was thinking.  You spend so many years telling lies it just comes natural, and you do not even think about what they might mean to other people. At least, that would be my guess, I have no real experience with people like that.
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Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8 10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true.

A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues.

The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this.

Sorry, no pics at this time.
Before I got to this, it was what I was thinking.  You spend so many years telling lies it just comes natural, and you do not even think about what they might mean to other people. At least, that would be my guess, I have no real experience with people like that.


A lot of that too. Saw something recently that said "normies" are just not equipped to deal with that type of behavior.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:33:10 AM EST
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Not uncommon from the addicts I've dealt with.

6 months on a lifetime of addiction isn't clean.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:34:28 AM EST
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Pathological Liar, ex-addict, morally compromised, with some screws loose...

Don't walk, RUN away.





Unless you like your BJ's $20 at a time...
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:34:57 AM EST
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The time she should have spent learning to be a functioning adult human was spent being a junkie. While exceptions exist, the pattern of being a manipulative attention whoring drama queen is set, and no combination of words and/or deeds you do is going to change that.

She's broken. Six months clean is nothing, and the ball is entirely in her court if she want's to shed her past, which includes the head games. Run.
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That is my ex-wife right there. She was never on drugs or alcohol but was a master manipulator.  She would take things that would happen and mix in lies and the the truth.  If you weren't there and saw what really happened you would believe her.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:35:00 AM EST
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Before I got to this, it was what I was thinking.  You spend so many years telling lies it just comes natural, and you do not even think about what they might mean to other people. At least, that would be my guess, I have no real experience with people like that.
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Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8 10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true.

A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues.

The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this.

Sorry, no pics at this time.
Before I got to this, it was what I was thinking.  You spend so many years telling lies it just comes natural, and you do not even think about what they might mean to other people. At least, that would be my guess, I have no real experience with people like that.


Narcissists don't lie, they live in a delusional alternate reality that only exists in their head
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:37:20 AM EST
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The time she should have spent learning to be a functioning adult human was spent being a junkie. While exceptions exist, the pattern of being a manipulative attention whoring drama queen is set, and no combination of words and/or deeds you do is going to change that.

She's broken. Six months clean is nothing, and the ball is entirely in her court if she want's to shed her past, which includes the head games. Run.
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She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge.

The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this.


The time she should have spent learning to be a functioning adult human was spent being a junkie. While exceptions exist, the pattern of being a manipulative attention whoring drama queen is set, and no combination of words and/or deeds you do is going to change that.

She's broken. Six months clean is nothing, and the ball is entirely in her court if she want's to shed her past, which includes the head games. Run.


All of that too! I think you have summed up the situation quite well. I'm not running away. I do care about her but very much dislike the BS. "Concerned detachment" is the order of the day.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:38:00 AM EST
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Lol so much typing so little actual detail.

Yeah addictions break peoples brains. Accept it and draw your boundaries.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:39:10 AM EST
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You should:

1. Take her on a vacation where all those drugs are legal. To make sure she’s clean.

2. Definitely get her pregnant on vacation

3. Marry her

4. Suggest swinging to her on the honeymoon

5. Give her control of your finances since she is intelligent

6. Report back here
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:41:47 AM EST
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Pathological Liar, ex-addict, morally compromised, with some screws loose...

Don't walk, RUN away.





Unless you like your BJ's $20 at a time...
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I never asked, and never will. And she never offered although I'm sure there was some of that going on in the course of her life as an addict. She always plays the "good little girl" with me.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:42:56 AM EST
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All of that too! I think you have summed up the situation quite well. I'm not running away. I do care about her but very much dislike the BS. "Concerned detachment" is the order of the day.
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Bubba, you'll get everything you deserve. These people are like ticks and find a way to burrow in. I still have ptsd from dealing with my mother-in-law who is exactly what you described. She loved crack, lying and stealing. What made it worse my wife's family was ill-equipped to deal with her and did not understand what was going on with her.

Holy hell the stories I could tell about that broad.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:42:57 AM EST
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You should:

1. Take her on a vacation where all those drugs are legal. To make sure she’s clean.

2. Definitely get her pregnant on vacation

3. Marry her

4. Suggest swinging to her on the honeymoon

5. Give her control of your finances since she is intelligent

6. Report back here
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Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:43:46 AM EST
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Classic pathological liar, just like Joe Biden.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:44:50 AM EST
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You should:

1. Take her on a vacation where all those drugs are legal. To make sure she's clean.

2. Definitely get her pregnant on vacation

3. Marry her

4. Suggest swinging to her on the honeymoon

5. Give her control of your finances since she is intelligent

6. Report back here
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I can find no faults with this plan.  She may be the only woman you ever meet after all, so lock it down.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:44:56 AM EST
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Bubba, you'll get everything you deserve. These people are like ticks and find a way to burrow in. I still have ptsd from dealing with my mother-in-law who is exactly what you described. She loved crack, lying and stealing. What made it worse my wife's family was ill-equipped to deal with her and did not understand what was going on with her.

Holy hell the stories I could tell about that broad.
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All of that too! I think you have summed up the situation quite well. I'm not running away. I do care about her but very much dislike the BS. "Concerned detachment" is the order of the day.



Bubba, you'll get everything you deserve. These people are like ticks and find a way to burrow in. I still have ptsd from dealing with my mother-in-law who is exactly what you described. She loved crack, lying and stealing. What made it worse my wife's family was ill-equipped to deal with her and did not understand what was going on with her.

Holy hell the stories I could tell about that broad.


Oh yeah, PTSD is very much a real thing from the stress of dealing with those types.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:45:14 AM EST
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Drug addicts lie constantly to everyone about everything; usually when they don't even need to.

Keep them at an arm's length.
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You should:

1. Take her on a vacation where all those drugs are legal. To make sure she’s clean.

2. Definitely get her pregnant on vacation

3. Marry her

4. Suggest swinging to her on the honeymoon

5. Give her control of your finances since she is intelligent

6. Report back here

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Sounds like a plan! What could possibly go wrong?
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:46:21 AM EST
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It was a joke man, but my God it was BAD.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:48:42 AM EST
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Get her coked up and do anal with her.

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Nah, promise them the coke and  then anal. Leave before the shit dries on the condom.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:51:04 AM EST
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OP, you really should propose marriage to her.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:51:13 AM EST
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Brother, you need to evaluate why you want this person in your life.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:51:31 AM EST
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The deacons at our church are helping an elderly woman who just got clean off H like 18 months ago. She's not as skilled at it, but "telling people what she thinks they want to hear/what will avoid consequences for her" is very much a reflex with this person. We've seen the actual effort she's putting in, and she's a loved sister in Christ, but we're helping with eyes open and guard up.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:52:13 AM EST
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She's so used to lying she probably doesn't even realize she's doing it anymore, that's just the way they work. It's pretty typical of junkies, they pretty much have to lie all the time to be junkies.

People who lie a lot start to believe the lies they tell about themselves the most, become detached from reality. People need to hold on to a certain level of self-respect to function, so it becomes a kind of self-induced narcissism.

It isn't going to stop without a lot of really hard work and therapy.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:53:42 AM EST
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She is a crackhead even if she is off of it for the minute. This is what crackheads do.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:53:56 AM EST
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Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin.
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Unknow her. Yesterday.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:55:16 AM EST
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So I guess you think this makes her good girlfriend material?
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:55:20 AM EST
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She is what we referred to on the job as a "Hype". They can be VERY convincing but everything they tell you is a lie. OP, think with your big head and not the little one. Hypes are never to be trusted or believed. Have no contact with her. Also, YOU CANNOT FIX HER. She's gone.
Link Posted: 7/13/2022 10:56:17 AM EST
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Is it lying or is it cray-cray?

A friend, one of the wisest men I know says, “You always have to give a person enough room to turn around.” But, as I said, he’s one of the wisest people I know.

Someone who refers to other people as “it”, uses the non-word j “cray-cray”, and starts threads specifically in order to garner affirmative responses bashing women may not themselves be sufficiently wise to apply my friend’s advice.

TL;DR: Most likely, neither of you would benefit from associating with the other.
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