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Posted: 7/13/2022 10:12:37 AM EST
Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true.
A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues. The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this. Sorry, no pics at this time. |
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Quoted: Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true. A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues. The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this. Sorry, no pics at this time. View Quote She is both, run away. |
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hahahaha......yeah she's permanently damaged.
I wouldnt hit that with sparatcus's dick |
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Need titty pics to decide if guilty with bad tits or guilty with good tits.
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She was addicted to multiple substances from 15-25? She has a firmly established habit of lying, professional grade. She ain't shaking that habit.
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Twenty-five and has been addicted since mid teens. What's the recidivism rate at this stage near 100%? I wouldn't, but you do you.
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Quoted: Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8 10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true. A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues. The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this. Sorry, no pics at this time. View Quote |
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Suspend all contact.
No good will ever come from your engagement with her. You cannot save her. Don't try. You'll only end up entangling yourself in her web. |
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pathological liar View Quote Worked for me. I went to her funeral, just to make sure she was really dead. |
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Quoted: She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this. View Quote The time she should have spent learning to be a functioning adult human was spent being a junkie. While exceptions exist, the pattern of being a manipulative attention whoring drama queen is set, and no combination of words and/or deeds you do is going to change that. She's broken. Six months clean is nothing, and the ball is entirely in her court if she want's to shed her past, which includes the head games. Run. |
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Quoted: Before I got to this, it was what I was thinking. You spend so many years telling lies it just comes natural, and you do not even think about what they might mean to other people. At least, that would be my guess, I have no real experience with people like that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8 10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true. A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues. The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this. Sorry, no pics at this time. A lot of that too. Saw something recently that said "normies" are just not equipped to deal with that type of behavior. |
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Not uncommon from the addicts I've dealt with.
6 months on a lifetime of addiction isn't clean. |
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Pathological Liar, ex-addict, morally compromised, with some screws loose...
Don't walk, RUN away. Unless you like your BJ's $20 at a time... |
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Quoted: The time she should have spent learning to be a functioning adult human was spent being a junkie. While exceptions exist, the pattern of being a manipulative attention whoring drama queen is set, and no combination of words and/or deeds you do is going to change that. She's broken. Six months clean is nothing, and the ball is entirely in her court if she want's to shed her past, which includes the head games. Run. View Quote That is my ex-wife right there. She was never on drugs or alcohol but was a master manipulator. She would take things that would happen and mix in lies and the the truth. If you weren't there and saw what really happened you would believe her. |
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Quoted: Before I got to this, it was what I was thinking. You spend so many years telling lies it just comes natural, and you do not even think about what they might mean to other people. At least, that would be my guess, I have no real experience with people like that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8 10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true. A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues. The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this. Sorry, no pics at this time. Narcissists don't lie, they live in a delusional alternate reality that only exists in their head |
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Quoted: The time she should have spent learning to be a functioning adult human was spent being a junkie. While exceptions exist, the pattern of being a manipulative attention whoring drama queen is set, and no combination of words and/or deeds you do is going to change that. She's broken. Six months clean is nothing, and the ball is entirely in her court if she want's to shed her past, which includes the head games. Run. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this. The time she should have spent learning to be a functioning adult human was spent being a junkie. While exceptions exist, the pattern of being a manipulative attention whoring drama queen is set, and no combination of words and/or deeds you do is going to change that. She's broken. Six months clean is nothing, and the ball is entirely in her court if she want's to shed her past, which includes the head games. Run. All of that too! I think you have summed up the situation quite well. I'm not running away. I do care about her but very much dislike the BS. "Concerned detachment" is the order of the day. |
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Lol so much typing so little actual detail.
Yeah addictions break peoples brains. Accept it and draw your boundaries. |
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You should:
1. Take her on a vacation where all those drugs are legal. To make sure she’s clean. 2. Definitely get her pregnant on vacation 3. Marry her 4. Suggest swinging to her on the honeymoon 5. Give her control of your finances since she is intelligent 6. Report back here |
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Quoted: Pathological Liar, ex-addict, morally compromised, with some screws loose... Don't walk, RUN away. Unless you like your BJ's $20 at a time... View Quote I never asked, and never will. And she never offered although I'm sure there was some of that going on in the course of her life as an addict. She always plays the "good little girl" with me. |
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Quoted: All of that too! I think you have summed up the situation quite well. I'm not running away. I do care about her but very much dislike the BS. "Concerned detachment" is the order of the day. View Quote Bubba, you'll get everything you deserve. These people are like ticks and find a way to burrow in. I still have ptsd from dealing with my mother-in-law who is exactly what you described. She loved crack, lying and stealing. What made it worse my wife's family was ill-equipped to deal with her and did not understand what was going on with her. Holy hell the stories I could tell about that broad. |
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Quoted: You should: 1. Take her on a vacation where all those drugs are legal. To make sure she’s clean. 2. Definitely get her pregnant on vacation 3. Marry her 4. Suggest swinging to her on the honeymoon 5. Give her control of your finances since she is intelligent 6. Report back here View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: You should: 1. Take her on a vacation where all those drugs are legal. To make sure she's clean. 2. Definitely get her pregnant on vacation 3. Marry her 4. Suggest swinging to her on the honeymoon 5. Give her control of your finances since she is intelligent 6. Report back here View Quote |
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Quoted: Bubba, you'll get everything you deserve. These people are like ticks and find a way to burrow in. I still have ptsd from dealing with my mother-in-law who is exactly what you described. She loved crack, lying and stealing. What made it worse my wife's family was ill-equipped to deal with her and did not understand what was going on with her. Holy hell the stories I could tell about that broad. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: All of that too! I think you have summed up the situation quite well. I'm not running away. I do care about her but very much dislike the BS. "Concerned detachment" is the order of the day. Bubba, you'll get everything you deserve. These people are like ticks and find a way to burrow in. I still have ptsd from dealing with my mother-in-law who is exactly what you described. She loved crack, lying and stealing. What made it worse my wife's family was ill-equipped to deal with her and did not understand what was going on with her. Holy hell the stories I could tell about that broad. Oh yeah, PTSD is very much a real thing from the stress of dealing with those types. |
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Drug addicts lie constantly to everyone about everything; usually when they don't even need to.
Keep them at an arm's length. |
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Quoted: Quoted: You should: 1. Take her on a vacation where all those drugs are legal. To make sure she’s clean. 2. Definitely get her pregnant on vacation 3. Marry her 4. Suggest swinging to her on the honeymoon 5. Give her control of your finances since she is intelligent 6. Report back here /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/nod-3.gif Sounds like a plan! What could possibly go wrong? |
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Brother, you need to evaluate why you want this person in your life.
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The deacons at our church are helping an elderly woman who just got clean off H like 18 months ago. She's not as skilled at it, but "telling people what she thinks they want to hear/what will avoid consequences for her" is very much a reflex with this person. We've seen the actual effort she's putting in, and she's a loved sister in Christ, but we're helping with eyes open and guard up.
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She's so used to lying she probably doesn't even realize she's doing it anymore, that's just the way they work. It's pretty typical of junkies, they pretty much have to lie all the time to be junkies.
People who lie a lot start to believe the lies they tell about themselves the most, become detached from reality. People need to hold on to a certain level of self-respect to function, so it becomes a kind of self-induced narcissism. It isn't going to stop without a lot of really hard work and therapy. |
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She is a crackhead even if she is off of it for the minute. This is what crackheads do.
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Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. View Quote Unknow her. Yesterday. |
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Quoted: She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. View Quote So I guess you think this makes her good girlfriend material? |
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She is what we referred to on the job as a "Hype". They can be VERY convincing but everything they tell you is a lie. OP, think with your big head and not the little one. Hypes are never to be trusted or believed. Have no contact with her. Also, YOU CANNOT FIX HER. She's gone.
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Is it lying or is it cray-cray?
A friend, one of the wisest men I know says, “You always have to give a person enough room to turn around.” But, as I said, he’s one of the wisest people I know. Someone who refers to other people as “it”, uses the non-word j “cray-cray”, and starts threads specifically in order to garner affirmative responses bashing women may not themselves be sufficiently wise to apply my friend’s advice. TL;DR: Most likely, neither of you would benefit from associating with the other. |
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