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Posted: 7/13/2022 11:57:19 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Get her coked up and do anal with her. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 11:57:47 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not uncommon from the addicts I've dealt with. 6 months on a lifetime of addiction isn't clean. first page "real" advice  end of story.... Talk to me after a year, minimum. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 11:58:41 AM EDT
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People who abuse substances have years of training how to lie. I would say lying/manipulation is intertwined with substance abuse 100% of the time. From what I've seen the addiction to lying is almost harder to overcome than the substances.
The problem is as people get clean they have a support structure around them that wants so badly to believe them. This creates a cycle that allows them to lie and eventually fall back into addiction. An example: My brother has used for decades. He was clean for about 6 months then relapsed and hit my 2-year in front of me. My parents chose to believe he wasn't high and didn't hit my kid. Tore my family apart. My mom has struggled with the truth in the past but became a compulsive liar after this incident trying to protect my brother, tearing down my wife and I to try to bring my brother to our level. I'm done with all of them. Addicts suck. RUN! |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 11:59:21 AM EDT
[#4]
Why are you still there? Are YOU addicted?
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Posted: 7/13/2022 11:59:43 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it lying or is it cray-cray? A friend, one of the wisest men I know says, "You always have to give a person enough room to turn around." But, as I said, he's one of the wisest people I know. Someone who refers to other people as "it", uses the non-word j "cray-cray", and starts threads specifically in order to garner affirmative responses bashing women may not themselves be sufficiently wise to apply my friend's advice. TL;DR: Most likely, neither of you would benefit from associating with the other. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:02:28 PM EDT
[#6]
IME, it takes a year or even longer for peoples minds to clear out of the fog of addiction. Of course, some never come all the way back but most do. You have to wait and see.
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:04:28 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You should: 1. Take her on a vacation where all those drugs are legal. To make sure she’s clean. 2. Definitely get her pregnant on vacation 3. Marry her 4. Suggest swinging to her on the honeymoon 5. Give her control of your finances since she is intelligent 6. Report back here The GD playbook |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:08:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it lying or is it cray-cray? A friend, one of the wisest men I know says, “You always have to give a person enough room to turn around.” But, as I said, he’s one of the wisest people I know. Someone who refers to other people as “it”, uses the non-word j “cray-cray”, and starts threads specifically in order to garner affirmative responses bashing women may not themselves be sufficiently wise to apply my friend’s advice. TL;DR: Most likely, neither of you would benefit from associating with the other. At some point in time, as these wild stories stack up, I begin to wonder a) if they’re real b) subordinate to a, why a person would continue to invite such people into his life. Assuming the stories are real, OP has rather a track record of associating with abysmally broken and unhealthy people. Either he is one himself, or he enjoys their company so much that he can’t seem to avoid them. Possibly both. And then he posts his Ls online for others to enjoy. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:08:10 PM EDT
[#9]
Stop thinking with small head...
Look out for you. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:10:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true. A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues. The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this. Sorry, no pics at this time. I don't know, but I can tell you with great confidence that fucking her would be a terrible idea |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:10:34 PM EDT
[#11]
I guess you never saw the "This is your brain on drugs" commercial.
My wife had a friend like your little sweet girl. My wife came around to reality when the bitch stole our son's piggybank. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:11:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Enjoy the hep c
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:12:18 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hard no!  |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:13:02 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Brother, you need to evaluate why you want this person in your life. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:14:05 PM EDT
[#15]
This the same milk swollen tiddies girl from your last adventure?
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:16:05 PM EDT
[#16]
People sometimes try drugs (self medicating) to shut down the demons growing in their heads. Could be onset of BPD didn't result in a therapist and treatment but began the drug problems.
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:18:58 PM EDT
[#17]
Make sure you knock her up so you have the pleasure of her company for the next 18 3/4 years.
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:19:52 PM EDT
[#18]
The odds are that unless she is getting "something" from the OP, she will not be a presence in his life. OTOH, she may be playing a long game setting him up for future use by getting him emotionally invested in her living clean.
Now, it could be that I am mistaken, and she really is clean and sober and working to stay that way. I hope that is the case, but extreme caution is called for in any contact. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:23:18 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You should: 1. Take her on a vacation where all those drugs are legal. To make sure she’s clean. 2. Definitely get her pregnant on vacation 3. Marry her 4. Suggest swinging to her on the honeymoon 5. Give her control of your finances since she is intelligent 6. Report back here Can I get an amen?! |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:23:55 PM EDT
[#20]
This would all go away if she was pregnant and married
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:24:21 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She is both, run away. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true. A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues. The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this. Sorry, no pics at this time. She is both, run away. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:25:43 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I never asked, and never will. And she never offered although I'm sure there was some of that going on in the course of her life as an addict. She always plays the "good little girl" with me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pathological Liar, ex-addict, morally compromised, with some screws loose... Don't walk, RUN away. Unless you like your BJ's $20 at a time... I never asked, and never will. And she never offered although I'm sure there was some of that going on in the course of her life as an addict. She always plays the "good little girl" with me. I knew one of those. Adorable, petite girl. She ended up getting a DWI then went much further downhill. Several kids by different dads, hooked on heroin. Dead by 28 due to an overdose. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:25:55 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it lying or is it cray-cray? A friend, one of the wisest men I know says, “You always have to give a person enough room to turn around.” But, as I said, he’s one of the wisest people I know. Someone who refers to other people as “it”, uses the non-word j “cray-cray”, and starts threads specifically in order to garner affirmative responses bashing women may not themselves be sufficiently wise to apply my friend’s advice. TL;DR: Most likely, neither of you would benefit from associating with the other. Not disagreeing with you per se, but he didn't refer to her as "it" and the responses are bashing junkies, not women. JMHO ETA: I was ignorant to the apparent history of these kind of stories from OP - so I dunno, maybe you have a point, lol |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:29:54 PM EDT
[#24]
Wait, whoa, full stop. Everyone hold up a minute.
Didn't OP post a thread about a woman with similar issues some months ago? Either a) he's still putting effort on the first girl, or b) he's finding more crazy women to put effort into. Which is it, OP? 
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:30:40 PM EDT
[#25]
Why are you trying to date a crackhead?
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:31:14 PM EDT
[#26]
Addicts are the best cin men on the fucking planet. Trust nothing they say you cannot independently verify.
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:33:43 PM EDT
[#27]
So she is a skilled liar, and she told you she has been clean for six months? Right!
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:37:00 PM EDT
[#28]
I know someone with a history of heroin addiction. She will look you in the eye with a straight face and talk about how awful drugs are and how could anyone do that to themselves and their family, then be nodding from smack the next day. Her issues started in her teens or even earlier. Dad was a druggie loser and so are all 3 of her baby daddies. She has a cute little 3 year old boy I pray for every day. Fortunately she has a strong extended family.
The deception starts with the self. Once you have yourself completely deluded the rest comes easily. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:45:58 PM EDT
[#29]
All of the addict behavior, without the drugs.
What's the fun in that
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:51:21 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: hahahaha......yeah she's permanently damaged. I wouldnt hit that with sparatcus's dick That's about it. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:52:02 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: I thought he was characterizing the behavior as "it" not the person. Quoted: Not disagreeing with you per se, but he didn't refer to her as "it" and the responses are bashing junkies, not women. JMHO ETA: I was ignorant to the apparent history of these kind of stories from OP - so I dunno, maybe you have a point, lol I disagree, but given that y’all’s interpretation is infinitesimally within the bounds of possibility, and I’m a reasonable woman and a peacemaker by nature, and I need to run thru the shower and go to the grocery store, I’m not going to war over it. I’ll stand by the rest of my post. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 12:57:05 PM EDT
[#32]
"Brilliantly intelligent"
No. Just no. Brilliantly Intelligent people don't do that stuff. My stupid BIL tells everyone how brilliant his kid is who is 35 and voted for Biden because "he will fix the mess Trump made." Drugs and Biden support are the exact fucking opposite of brilliant. And get away from that women, we have 60 year-olds in our extended family that did drugs in teens and they are like that their whole lives. VERY low odds she will ever fix herself. VERRRRRRRRRYYYYY! (everyone.gif) |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:11:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Unless you're family it's not worth having someone like this in your life in any capacity.
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:12:49 PM EDT
[#34]
Diesel1 thread.
In for entertainment. 
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:17:43 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: Seriously, trying to figure out what is going on with someone I know. She's 25, 6 months clean from an 8–10-year addiction binge. Pain meds, weed, crack, heroin. Brilliantly intelligent but seems confused as to what is real and what isn't. She tells very believable stories, for instance, "going for a job interview", "my mom kicked me out of the house" with enough verifiable facts that one gets taken in, only to find out later that most of what she said was not true. A psych guy told me that people getting addicted at an early age have delayed personality development. I've talked to her about that but I don't think that is causing the reality issues. The simple answer is that she is just pathological liar. But I think it goes way beyond that. After a recent encounter, I wondered if she has some mental defect like some sort of cognitive distortion. Or is she so used to hustling people for drug money that it's just a bad habit? Confronting her has not worked in the past. I've never known anyone like this. Sorry, no pics at this time. Part in red:  Attached FilePart in yellow:  Attached FileThe two parts contradict one another. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:20:11 PM EDT
[#36]
Don't get attached, only give one chance. ALWAYS PULL OUT
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:23:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Part in red: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/tumblr_inline_n5u0xtXbcw1ryxhvf_zpsoiemfgn1-120.jpg Part in yellow: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/confused-britney-spears--83.gif The two parts contradict one another. If it all made sense it wouldn't make for a good thread. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:28:14 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This the same milk swollen tiddies girl from your last adventure?  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:30:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Part in red: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/tumblr_inline_n5u0xtXbcw1ryxhvf_zpsoiemfgn1-120.jpg Part in yellow: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/confused-britney-spears--83.gif The two parts contradict one another. Being highly intelligent and self-destructive are not mutually exclusive. They aren’t even terribly uncommon. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:40:32 PM EDT
[#40]
Every lie contains a small element of truth.
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:42:21 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This the same milk swollen tiddies girl from your last adventure? Oh...is this that guy? I'm out. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:50:24 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn, I didn't realize this was the same guy. But it couldn't be the same girl. Milk swollen boobies was a 21 year old drug addict in a 2018 thread, this is a 25 year old in 2022. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/mal-660.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This the same milk swollen tiddies girl from your last adventure? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/mal-660.gif So he's been simping for this chick for 4 years?   Attached File |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 2:00:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP stuck his dick in the crazy. Yep. Don't do that. 
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Posted: 7/13/2022 2:04:42 PM EDT
[#44]
Drug addicts are master manipulators. It becomes a survival skill, and intelligent addicts are particularly adept at it. It becomes an engrained way of life though....she'll be a manipulator forever. Her reality will be shaped to suit her advantage.
Not sure what your relationship is with her, but you can't fix her. Best to keep her at arms length. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 2:07:42 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Before I got to this, it was what I was thinking. You spend so many years telling lies it just comes natural, and you do not even think about what they might mean to other people. At least, that would be my guess, I have no real experience with people like that. Sounds like Biden. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 2:17:17 PM EDT
[#46]
I’m not reading the whole thread so most likely already posted.
A lot…I mean a lot…of drug users have bad mental health issues. Simple put, they be nuts. And in a bad way. For some people the drugs broke their minds. Yet for others, the mind was already broken and the drugs was just them thinking they were “better” on the drugs. There is no fix for these people I’m sorry to tell you. Their mind can not be fixed either way. Medication may help with some of the symptoms. Long term therapy also may help if you find the right person. Most likely if she is lying about stupid stuff, she be lying about not using again. Which would also explain some of the behavior. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 2:22:03 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh...is this that guy? I'm out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This the same milk swollen tiddies girl from your last adventure? Oh...is this that guy? I'm out. Ohhhh didn't realize this. 
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Posted: 7/13/2022 2:23:58 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Twenty-five and has been addicted since mid teens. What's the recidivism rate at this stage near 100%? I wouldn't, but you do you. Doing yourself is much safer than doing her, and in the long run probably more satisfying. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 2:25:07 PM EDT
[#49]
Don't give her your seed.
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Posted: 7/13/2022 2:28:58 PM EDT
[#50]
Smart crazy people are dangerous. Should be avoided at all costs.
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