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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:28:11 AM EDT
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I have a 590 "Marine Coat" or whatever it's called. It's useful enough for the $269 I paid.
Gives me a nice pants bulge when I shoot it. 
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:32:29 AM EDT
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The Chad Mossberg Shockwave vs The Virgin 870 Express
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:44:27 AM EDT
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Mount a rail to the receiver and add a 5mw green laser of your choice. That is when the real fun begins. Immature destructive fun. However the laser is visible in most conditions but full sunshine. Any darkness allows you to see it, and more importantly accurately place slugs from the hip at over 25 yards.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:55:17 AM EDT
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I got Shockwave and Jetfire the same Christmas. 85 I think. As to the shockwave, its cool enough to own but not as useful as a regular pump action shotgun. Handy for close encounters |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:57:43 AM EDT
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I have two of them.
Did a form1 on the synthetic one and left the hardwood as is. Fun little toys.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:24:27 AM EDT
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At the time I bought it, I knew I'd hate it. Turns out I merely dislike it a little bit.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:30:56 AM EDT
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Just get a regular 18 1/2" 12 gauge fill it with double odd buck, you'll be much happier.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:42:50 AM EDT
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"Just because you can" can be an awful lot of relatively inexpensive fun.
It won't replace my AR as a home defense gun, but I am convinced I could use it that way if I had to. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:45:10 AM EDT
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Bought one as a range toy last year, but after a few hundred rds downrange it's earned a spot in my 'bump in the night' bedroom arsenal being more maneuverable than a longarm and far more effective than a handgun.
Technique is everything if you want to shoot accurately. Tomac  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:59:40 AM EDT
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Will be getting a tac-14 in 20 gauge, I have a stockpile of 20 ga. #3 buck..
When Legal in Ohio, of course. 
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:59:47 AM EDT
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 Attached FileAbsolutely stupid fun. With a laser for aiming it can be very precise. Also mine is gold for added prestige points. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 7:09:24 AM EDT
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I found that you need to aim at the belt buckle. I think the way the recoil happens the muzzle rotates up and the shots go high. Also the recoil is insane so after about 15 shells it's no fun to shoot. Firing from the hip at steel poppers is insane fun. Birdshot won't knock them down btw but 00 buckshot will.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 7:13:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2018 7:51:45 AM EDT
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Seems pointless to me.....but if you want one, go for it.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 7:53:56 AM EDT
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Stupid. But it's a cool stupid. BUY IT!!
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:32:46 AM EDT
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Just get a regular 18 1/2" 12 gauge fill it with double odd buck, you'll be much happier. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:53:31 AM EDT
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Ok, I guess I'll be the one to point out the gigantic bulge in this guys pants. Jesus Christ, dude.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been hunting with mine. Haven't seen a bear but it kills squirrels and grouse just fine. I've shot a few 3 guns with it as well.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmKKrZohavc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UevW_PJ3iHs
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/KIMG0909_JPG-716195.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/Effect_20181022_210048_jpg-716196.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/KIMG0883_JPG-716198.JPG Maybe I'll post a topless one for spring turkey season Jesus Christ, dude.  Just bear that in mind if you go to the range with him. Be careful when you
bend down to pick up your brass. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:55:58 AM EDT
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Defending the alley dumpster from unwanted mattresses. 
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:56:13 AM EDT
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I picked up the Tac 14 and like it pretty well. I use low recoil buck in it. The recoil
was less that I anticipated it to be. Pretty controllable. I just have to get used to not having a stock. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:58:23 AM EDT
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I doubt it
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:02:53 AM EDT
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Picked up a Tac14 from PSA. I will shoot it someday, mostly bought it for the cool factor.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:07:23 AM EDT
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I posted this in the Shotgun forum;
Personally, I like my 12ga Mossberg Shockwave so much, I have also purchased a Shockwave in .410 as well as a Remington TAC-14 in 12ga too! I would not recommend it to someone as a FIRST firearm or ONLY firearm that fires shotshells but it does have niche uses for experienced shotgunners (not trying to sound Tier-1, just saying). I mounted a receiver top rail and TLR-8 ligth/laser combo on my 12ga Mossberg Shockwave. Even with the heaviest 3" Magnum loads it is very controllable shooting from the hip or a "low ready" position. It is Very easy to maneuver in tight spaces. I keep the laser adjusted parallel to the bore axis so I always know the muzzle is pointed ~2" below the projected red dot. My .410 Shockwave is loaded with #9 shot for use against rats and snakes. It shoots so light that I have no problem using a slightly canted cheek weld in order to line up the receiver flat and front bead for a traditional shotgun sight picture. My Rem.TAC-14 does NOT have a drilled and tapped receiver top (a shame because it would have been so easy to do at the factory) but I am looking into a replacement front cap with an integrated light/laser + 1 extension. I don't know. As is, it balances very well. I may go the "brace" route to turn it into a more handy 12ga. firearm. I haven't decided yet. These guns are much more than novelties. With a little thought and practice (and maybe a few add-ons) they can serve and excel in very necessary roles. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:08:58 AM EDT
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Not my cup of tea but I've seen folks at the range having a ball with theirs.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:17:03 AM EDT
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Stupid IMHO.
https://cdn.athlonoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2017/12/SB-Tactical-590-SBM4-1.jpg https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/IMG_2793.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZSjTmi4.jpg |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:54:26 AM EDT
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The Shockwave/Tac-14 is a niche weapon.
A very small niche, but in its niche it excels. At 2-10 yards it is an excellent choice if your likely threats are unlikely to have body armor. Add a good pistol brace and flight control buck and it can be a 2-25 yard gun easily. Anyone who claims they are useless simply doesn't know how to use one or isn't strong enough to use one properly. Or is criticizing the weapon because it lacks versatility of an AR-15. The latter is a fair criticism. Considering you can get them for $269 shipped new, if it's in the $150-$200 range give it a try and see if you find it useful. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:57:13 AM EDT
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Breaching tool.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:57:32 AM EDT
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It's only useless if you never shot one or practiced with it. It handles much differently than a regular vertical grip. https://i.imgur.com/0zZ1Vpa.jpg It's completely manageable even without a brace or stock. Think of grabbing a birds head grip like a firm hand shake. There is more grip to well, grip. While the regular POGO is like a soyboy hand shake. Not much to hang onto, and the vertical angle sucks on POGO shotguns. The downward angle on the birdshead helps. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:58:58 AM EDT
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Some asshole got smoked by a guy using one on video. Seemed to work quite well. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:01:26 AM EDT
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Ok, I guess I'll be the one to point out the gigantic bulge in this guys pants. Jesus Christ, dude. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been hunting with mine. Haven't seen a bear but it kills squirrels and grouse just fine. I've shot a few 3 guns with it as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmKKrZohavc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UevW_PJ3iHs
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/KIMG0909_JPG-716195.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/Effect_20181022_210048_jpg-716196.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/KIMG0883_JPG-716198.JPG Maybe I'll post a topless one for spring turkey season Jesus Christ, dude.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:02:07 AM EDT
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I just saw the new title.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:03:37 AM EDT
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What is the last adapter? I'd want to see an ATF letter specific to that particular setup before I got one. I'm not saying it is a test case to see if the BATF thinks the overall measurement for a non-NFA weapon is with the with the pistol brace folded or extended as the do with folding stocked rifles, but I would not want to find out the hard way. https://suarezinternational.com/suarez-tac-14-folding-arm-brace-system-12ga/ |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:04:52 AM EDT
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Just bear that in mind if you go to the range with him. Be careful when you
bend down to pick up your brass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been hunting with mine. Haven't seen a bear but it kills squirrels and grouse just fine. I've shot a few 3 guns with it as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmKKrZohavc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UevW_PJ3iHs
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/KIMG0909_JPG-716195.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/Effect_20181022_210048_jpg-716196.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/KIMG0883_JPG-716198.JPG Maybe I'll post a topless one for spring turkey season Jesus Christ, dude. Just bear that in mind if you go to the range with him. Be careful when you
bend down to pick up your brass. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:07:39 AM EDT
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Not my cup of tea but I've seen folks at the range having a ball with theirs. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:09:37 AM EDT
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Shot a buddies and it was neat. Put a high brass #4 I had in my bag and the concussion and fireball was pretty massive. I actually didn't want to shoot the other two I had left.
Shot some Winchester 00 buck through it and it was pretty tame compared to the #4. Didn't have any slugs to try though. Shot some #8s afterwards and it was a non-event... |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:10:18 AM EDT
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I find it amusing that the guys checking out my crotch are insinuating that I'm gay. I'm not offended or anything. I'm just pointing out the obvious. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been hunting with mine. Haven't seen a bear but it kills squirrels and grouse just fine. I've shot a few 3 guns with it as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmKKrZohavc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UevW_PJ3iHs
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/KIMG0909_JPG-716195.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/Effect_20181022_210048_jpg-716196.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/KIMG0883_JPG-716198.JPG Maybe I'll post a topless one for spring turkey season Jesus Christ, dude. Just bear that in mind if you go to the range with him. Be careful when you
bend down to pick up your brass. The want you in their boi pussi, fam |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:10:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:13:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are illegal configurations. A pistol grip makes it an aow, no matter what BS arfcom is spitting. 
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:14:49 AM EDT
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It is a niche weapon. It is the battle axe of firearms. Within that niche, it probably excels.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:17:10 AM EDT
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I’ve got a Mossberg shockwave 12ga. Put Velcro on it and bought an esstac 6rd card. It has become my ‘truck’ gun. I keep in in one of those 6 can soft coolers. I use #4 turkey loads & #4 buck.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:19:40 AM EDT
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Those are illegal configurations. A pistol grip makes it an aow, no matter what BS arfcom is spitting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Those are illegal configurations. A pistol grip makes it an aow, no matter what BS arfcom is spitting. 
This is also a "firearm" and cannot be sold to a person under 21. The shape of the grip is irrelevant. It's the length that counts. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:21:12 AM EDT
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You're going to get a lot more clicks with this new title dude.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:23:23 AM EDT
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https://tombstonetactical.com/images/mossberg/51340-1.jpg This is also a "firearm" and cannot be sold to a person under 21. The shape of the grip is irrelevant. It's the length that counts. 
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:24:20 AM EDT
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Ok, I guess I'll be the one to point out the gigantic bulge in this guys pants. Jesus Christ, dude. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been hunting with mine. Haven't seen a bear but it kills squirrels and grouse just fine. I've shot a few 3 guns with it as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmKKrZohavc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UevW_PJ3iHs
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/KIMG0909_JPG-716195.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/Effect_20181022_210048_jpg-716196.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/433221/KIMG0883_JPG-716198.JPG Maybe I'll post a topless one for spring turkey season Jesus Christ, dude. 
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:26:25 AM EDT
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The shape of the grip is irrelevant. It's the length that counts. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:32:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Our shirtless heroes got into an argument with a felon with rage issues over a mattress getting dumped in a dumpster. Captain roid rage swings on the older moob brother, prompting his demise. And cancer’s cure is delayed once again. Fortunately, the rager’s woman vertically videoes the whole mess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vp1mZPUsjU |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:39:06 AM EDT
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Guys that have experience with one, how do you think it would do for a grouse gun?
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:41:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryPut a warning on that video. Fuck Hickcuck45.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:44:22 AM EDT
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Guys that have experience with one, how do you think it would do for a grouse gun? In my opinion, the Shockwave's best role is self defense inside 10 yards. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:44:36 AM EDT
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I found that you need to aim at the belt buckle. I think the way the recoil happens the muzzle rotates up and the shots go high. Also the recoil is insane so after about 15 shells it's no fun to shoot. The firstgen LCP was no fun after 15 rounds, it has notoriously bad recoil and handling, but they are carried regardless. Very few buying Shockwaves plan an afternoon at the trap and skeet range. It would be better to practice at paper plates at 25 feet - the working intent of the gun. I spotted a breacher pouch for $25 and I know it won't last long. Still researching MDC regs but I don't see it being illegal to hunt deer. The best mod recommended so far is threading it and screwing on a flash hider. Seems to extend reach and accuracy well. I suspect Mossberg might offer that. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:45:29 AM EDT
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Limp wristers say it's stupid, I have yet to read any of them willing to stand within 20 stupid yards from the end of it's stupid barrel with stupid 00 buck or stupid slugs and stupidly get shot.
They have some very valid uses and they work well. Of course. I may be one of the few that get off my ass around here and go shoot and experiment with things but hey. |
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