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Posted: 10/25/2018 3:25:39 PM EDT
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A human kill?  I love my Shockwave, but need to buy a current issue grip & endcap in order to add a sling. I built mine right after the original ATF letters came out & Mossberg was selling the old style retrofit parts then. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 3:54:56 PM EDT
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Buckshot bounces off of robots. I love my Shockwave, but need to buy a current issue grip & endcap in order to add a sling. I built mine right after the original ATF letters came out & Mossberg was selling the old style retrofit parts then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A human kill? I love my Shockwave, but need to buy a current issue grip & endcap in order to add a sling. I built mine right after the original ATF letters came out & Mossberg was selling the old style retrofit parts then. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 4:04:34 PM EDT
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I've gotta try this. Shooting clays with the Shockwave, fun starts at 2:25.
 Thoughts & Shots w/ the Mossberg 590 Shockwave (Can I hit clay pigeons!?) |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 4:05:17 PM EDT
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Guys that have experience with one, how do you think it would do for a grouse gun? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126406/83B151DF-23D5-4570-A528-062467CA34F8_jpeg-716843.JPG |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 4:09:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I told myself that I needed it for a truck gun. I was right!  |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 4:30:00 PM EDT
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Bought it $200 unfired
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Posted: 10/25/2018 4:46:00 PM EDT
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Odd is people miss pronouncing aught or ought.. when you say it out loud, It can sound like odd, and many people just assume that's what people are saying.. it's extremly common but it derived from auoght or ought or what ever it is.. aught is a short hand for zero.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never heard that, it is double odd. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 4:51:06 PM EDT
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Bought it $200 unfired |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:01:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A grovtech qd end cap and the raptor grip modified for a magpul QD sling cup works really nice. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:08:42 PM EDT
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Yes, I was trying to make a play on his odd misuse or lack of use of "Aught". I grew up in my father's gun store, attended SHOT and all manner of trade shows for most of my teen years and never once heard it called double-odd buck. That's why I said it was double odd! |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:15:30 PM EDT
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FWIW here is a link to a Tac-14 thread"
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/-Please-post-your-870-TAC-14-mods-/1-480698/ |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:17:02 PM EDT
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That depends, what’s your feelings on hanging out with dudes while shirtless. http://static-31.sinclairstoryline.com/resources/media/8519c112-c7e9-4152-b546-d971e7c30028-large16x9_howardmurder.JPG?1537402645556 |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:20:35 PM EDT
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Thanks. I'll look into that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: A grovtech qd end cap and the raptor grip modified for a magpul QD sling cup works really nice. The QD Cup takes some drilling, I'd leave enough room for the cup and tap it for whatever size magpul screws are (The cup is threaded for them). For good measure you can epoxy this too. Honestly I ordered the Saurez grip since it came textured and had the QD cup already installed. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:29:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would you volunteer to stand in front of a super soaker full of putrid urine? No? Does that validate it as well then? .  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:03:23 PM EDT
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20 ga magazine fed, sort of want.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:05:45 PM EDT
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Hmmm...
If you permanently attached a proper-length suppressor to a “super-shorty” - length barrel with a shockwave grip would it be a one-stamp gun? Damn near all 12ga is gonna stay subsonic out of 7” barrel. 
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:49:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:52:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh, no. https://www.remington.com/other-products/model-870-tac-14-arm-brace You can claim that the pistol grip is not a pistol geip but...it is. Otherwise why is my Factory AOW Mossburg no different? They clearly thought it was an AOW. Even shipped it with the model number "AOW" on the side...shipped without pistol grip attached, 14" barreled 590A1. The fact that the ATF isnt jumping down Rem throats doesnt changed the wording of the law fyi. I belive these shotguns are what is most likely to shutdown the whole pistol brace BS we have all been hiding behind these last few years (if we are going t9 be honest with ourselves). |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:54:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:57:27 PM EDT
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Correct, that is an AOW. The fact they sell it makes no difference. You can claim that the pistol grip is not a pistol geip but...it is. Otherwise why is my Factory AOW Mossburg no different? They clearly thought it was an AOW. Even shipped it with the model number "AOW" on the side...shipped without pistol grip attached, 14" barreled 590A1. The fact that the ATF isnt jumping down Rem throats doesnt changed the wording of the law fyi. I belive these shotguns are what os most likely to shutdown the qhole pistol brace BS we have all be hiding behind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Uh, no. https://www.remington.com/other-products/model-870-tac-14-arm-brace You can claim that the pistol grip is not a pistol geip but...it is. Otherwise why is my Factory AOW Mossburg no different? They clearly thought it was an AOW. Even shipped it with the model number "AOW" on the side...shipped without pistol grip attached, 14" barreled 590A1. The fact that the ATF isnt jumping down Rem throats doesnt changed the wording of the law fyi. I belive these shotguns are what os most likely to shutdown the qhole pistol brace BS we have all be hiding behind. If you don't take the barrel off of your shockwave before removing the grip, it becomes an AoW correct? The main reason putting a regular pistol grip on the shockwave is a no-no seems to be the OAL being an issue. What you are saying has been argued about in the past. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 6:59:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2018 7:02:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the OAL of your AOW? Without a grip it is still capable of firing and is under 26" If you don't take the barrel off of your shockwave before removing the grip, it becomes an AoW correct? The main reason putting a regular pistol grip on the shockwave is a no-no seems to be the OAL being an issue. What you are saying has been argued about in the past. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 7:06:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the OAL of your AOW? Without a grip it is still capable of firing and is under 26" If you don't take the barrel off of your shockwave before removing the grip, it becomes an AoW correct? The main reason putting a regular pistol grip on the shockwave is a no-no seems to be the OAL being an issue. What you are saying has been argued about in the past. Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the OAL of your AOW? Without a grip it is still capable of firing and is under 26" If you don't take the barrel off of your shockwave before removing the grip, it becomes an AoW correct? The main reason putting a regular pistol grip on the shockwave is a no-no seems to be the OAL being an issue. What you are saying has been argued about in the past. Quoted: The exact same dimentions as the shockwave, factory built without a grip attached. Add a birdshead grip....its a firearm....add a pistol grip, its an AOW. The o ly arguement here is people claiming a pistol grip brace is not a pistol grip....well, i dont like the atf either, but youre wrong. See Black Ace's ATF Letter  TLDR: The Pistol Grip on a firearm is fine. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 7:15:24 PM EDT
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Does anyone sell a wood stock set for the Shockwave?
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Posted: 10/25/2018 7:20:19 PM EDT
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The exact same dimentions as the shockwave, factory built without a grip attached. Add a birdshead grip....its a firearm....add a pistol grip, its an AOW. The o ly arguement here is people claiming a pistol grip brace is not a pistol grip....well, i dont like the atf either, but youre wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: What is the OAL of your AOW? Without a grip it is still capable of firing and is under 26" If you don't take the barrel off of your shockwave before removing the grip, it becomes an AoW correct? The main reason putting a regular pistol grip on the shockwave is a no-no seems to be the OAL being an issue. What you are saying has been argued about in the past. The pgo cruiser is a firearm due to it's length. Not a function of barrel length or shape of the grip. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 7:22:26 PM EDT
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Does anyone sell a wood stock set for the Shockwave? |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 7:51:52 PM EDT
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Does anyone sell a wood stock set for the Shockwave? |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:12:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is manageable. With the right loads. You aren't going to run full powered loads through a snub nose are you? Buck and slugs have been fine, but I'm not using 3" shells out of this thing. I'm tempted to try a few though. If normal buck/slugs hurt out of this idk what to say. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/333164/do-you-even-lift-bro_jpg-716826.JPG I'd like a Hogue style forend. Does a Hogue forend fit? |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:15:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently I spelled it wrong as well. I guess it’s aught? Who the fuck knows.. But still odd is simply people miss pronouncing ought or aught.. so there’s that.. Second of all any grown man should be able to “manage” or hold on to a shockwave.. hell my 8 year old son loves the thing, now I won’t load the tube with slugs for him, but He has shot a few rounds of high brass #4s and buck in his day and manages not to wine or cry about it, or have it slip from his hands.. I’m honestly beginning to wonder if all the hate for shockwaves or 12 gauges in general stems from jealousy of those that are to week actually use them.. It’s a 12 Gauge, much like the stocked version, it’s gonna kick.. big Fucking deal.. hold it like a man, point it at something, pull the trigger and hold onto it.. Third, if you actually decided to shoot it enough times instead of crying about recoil, you would soon discover you can pull up and hit shit much faster then a shotgun with a stock.. shoot it enough and you can actuallly hit shit reliably with out even using the bead..  , < this is how you look, LOL. Oh and odd just like we have always said around here, you're welcome to come
on over and try to change it. I'll even let you buy me drinks.LOL 
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:16:20 PM EDT
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@03RN Now your going to be forever known in GD for your junk. Not at all for your defensive shooting skills. GD is gonna GD. BTW: We need another challenge thread!
Yes we do. That was a good thread that really showed who the shooters really were in gd. @bcauz3y |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:21:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is manageable. With the right loads. You aren't going to run full powered loads through a snub nose are you? Buck and slugs have been fine, but I'm not using 3" shells out of this thing. I'm tempted to try a few though. If normal buck/slugs hurt out of this idk what to say. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/333164/do-you-even-lift-bro_jpg-716826.JPG |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:29:04 PM EDT
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Trunk gun... house clearing gun...
Reminiscent of the old police whippet guns which are fucking awesome!! |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:31:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Odd is people miss pronouncing aught or ought.. when you say it out loud, It can sound like odd, and many people just assume that’s what people are saying.. it’s extremly common but it derived from auoght or ought or what ever it is.. aught is a short hand for zero.. 
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:40:55 PM EDT
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I've gotta try this. Shooting clays with the Shockwave, fun starts at 2:25.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ioRJOALan4 |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:47:28 PM EDT
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I found a QD End Cap on ebay for about $15, I think it was new-old stock. The QD Cup takes some drilling, I'd leave enough room for the cup and tap it for whatever size magpul screws are (The cup is threaded for them). For good measure you can epoxy this too. Honestly I ordered the Saurez grip since it came textured and had the QD cup already installed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: A grovtech qd end cap and the raptor grip modified for a magpul QD sling cup works really nice. The QD Cup takes some drilling, I'd leave enough room for the cup and tap it for whatever size magpul screws are (The cup is threaded for them). For good measure you can epoxy this too. Honestly I ordered the Saurez grip since it came textured and had the QD cup already installed. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:03:52 PM EDT
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Check this tac-14 out.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:21:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:27:53 PM EDT
[#38]
03RN should nickname his junk the shockwave
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:29:19 PM EDT
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You're full of shit. You ought to study up before flappin yer gums. The rest of your drivel means even less than the rest, Bla, Bla, Bla bla bla. , < this is how you look, LOL. Oh and odd just like we have always said around here, you're welcome to come
on over and try to change it. I'll even let you buy me drinks.LOL However I will continue to argue with you about the shockwave.. not everyone struggles with the recoil on these things, there are dozens upon dozens of videos out there of people shooting them and actually hitting things they are aiming at with out issues.. I really can’t grasp how a grown man can’t manage one of these? I guess if your the type who uses hand lotions a lot I can understand.. or maybe an old ingury of some sort.. But to state a firearm is useless based of extemtly limited use because one can’t handle it is retarded.. Some of us, actually use the damn thing and have become quiet effective with them.. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:42:58 PM EDT
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3 inch 18 pellet Winchester 00 buck was no biggie. The corn cob forend does want to come UP out of my hand though. I'd like a Hogue style forend. Does a Hogue forend fit?  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:03:09 PM EDT
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Apparently I spelled it wrong as well. I guess it's aught? Who the fuck knows.. But still odd is simply people miss pronouncing ought or aught.. so there's that.. Second of all any grown man should be able to "manage" or hold on to a shockwave.. hell my 8 year old son loves the thing, now I won't load the tube with slugs for him, but He has shot a few rounds of high brass #4s and buck in his day and manages not to wine or cry about it, or have it slip from his hands.. I'm honestly beginning to wonder if all the hate for shockwaves or 12 gauges in general stems from jealousy of those that are to week actually use them.. It's a 12 Gauge, much like the stocked version, it's gonna kick.. big Fucking deal.. hold it like a man, point it at something, pull the trigger and hold onto it.. Third, if you actually decided to shoot it enough times instead of crying about recoil, you would soon discover you can pull up and hit shit much faster then a shotgun with a stock.. shoot it enough and you can actuallly hit shit reliably with out even using the bead.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Nobody says outht here, we always double odd, 30 odd 6. you say it your way I'll say it mine, if it bugs you tough shit. And no it's not just another shotgun, and no it's not manageable with slugs or full power 00 odd buck. It's a bitch, quit filling everybody full of shit, it's a bear to hang on to if your not ready, unlike a stocked shotgun which you aim in a normal way! You want to hit something aim it turbo. Even with LE double odd buck. Second of all any grown man should be able to "manage" or hold on to a shockwave.. hell my 8 year old son loves the thing, now I won't load the tube with slugs for him, but He has shot a few rounds of high brass #4s and buck in his day and manages not to wine or cry about it, or have it slip from his hands.. I'm honestly beginning to wonder if all the hate for shockwaves or 12 gauges in general stems from jealousy of those that are to week actually use them.. It's a 12 Gauge, much like the stocked version, it's gonna kick.. big Fucking deal.. hold it like a man, point it at something, pull the trigger and hold onto it.. Third, if you actually decided to shoot it enough times instead of crying about recoil, you would soon discover you can pull up and hit shit much faster then a shotgun with a stock.. shoot it enough and you can actuallly hit shit reliably with out even using the bead.. for example:  The Pistol Grip Only Shotgun - The Perfect Home Defense Tool? |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:05:14 PM EDT
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What exactly do I need to study up on? It doesn't matter how long or how many people you know that say odd, it's the wrong term.. it's like the word irreguardless.. so many people use it, yet it's technically not a word, but because so many people use it, it's become a word.. same with odd buck.. it's a miss pronunciation.. but I'm over it at this point.. However I will continue to argue with you about the shockwave.. not everyone struggles with the recoil on these things, there are dozens upon dozens of videos out there of people shooting them and actually hitting things they are aiming at with out issues.. I really can't grasp how a grown man can't manage one of these? I guess if your the type who uses hand lotions a lot I can understand.. or maybe an old ingury of some sort.. But to state a firearm is useless based of extemtly limited use because one can't handle it is retarded.. Some of us, actually use the damn thing and have become quiet effective with them.. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:14:01 PM EDT
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3 inch 18 pellet Winchester 00 buck was no biggie. The corn cob forend does want to come UP out of my hand though. I'd like a Hogue style forend. Does a Hogue forend fit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It is manageable. With the right loads. You aren't going to run full powered loads through a snub nose are you? Buck and slugs have been fine, but I'm not using 3" shells out of this thing. I'm tempted to try a few though. If normal buck/slugs hurt out of this idk what to say. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/333164/do-you-even-lift-bro_jpg-716826.JPG I'd like a Hogue style forend. Does a Hogue forend fit? 
The easy approach is to chop it/sand and file things evenly. Use a razor blade on the rubber, and a saw on the polymer. The harder approach is to do the above, but don't cut it as short. Leave some meat on the handguard and take off some material inside of the fore-arm so the castle nut is actually inside the handguard some what. I think it turned out okay, It only cost me $18, I might do another with the later method. I did email Hogue, they said they have no plans to make a shockwave fore-arm. 
I hear the regular tac-14 fore-arms fit with no modifications. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:20:50 PM EDT
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I'm wondering: if one was to take a rifled slug barrel and cut it to size then add a nice ghost site to the Shockwave, would that make it a slightly longer distsnce, more effective toy. Err, um, tool?
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:24:52 PM EDT
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I'm wondering: if one was to take a rifled slug barrel and cut it to size then add a nice ghost site to the Shockwave, would that make it a slightly longer distsnce, more effective toy. Err, um, tool? |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:25:00 PM EDT
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I'm wondering: if one was to take a rifled slug barrel and cut it to size then add a nice ghost site to the Shockwave, would that make it a slightly longer distsnce, more effective toy. Err, um, tool? |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:25:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What exactly do I need to study up on? It doesn’t matter how long or how many people you know that say odd, it’s the wrong term.. it’s like the word irreguardless.. so many people use it, yet it’s technically not a word, but because so many people use it, it’s become a word.. same with odd buck.. it’s a miss pronunciation.. but I’m over it at this point.. However I will continue to argue with you about the shockwave.. not everyone struggles with the recoil on these things, there are dozens upon dozens of videos out there of people shooting them and actually hitting things they are aiming at with out issues.. I really can’t grasp how a grown man can’t manage one of these? I guess if your the type who uses hand lotions a lot I can understand.. or maybe an old ingury of some sort.. But to state a firearm is useless based of extemtly limited use because one can’t handle it is retarded.. Some of us, actually use the damn thing and have become quiet effective with them..  LOL Did you have any schooling at all or have you always been a goober? You are giving English lessons? LOL I bet you are one tough sob hey? They don't make people like you anymore, they broke the mold after you were born right? LOL
It's great, ya pass the hand lotion spud I think I am starting to see the beginning of a blister. I just want to die LOL. You did your mama proud son! HEhe 
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:27:13 PM EDT
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What you need is a rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm wondering: if one was to take a rifled slug barrel and cut it to size then add a nice ghost site to the Shockwave, would that make it a slightly longer distsnce, more effective toy. Err, um, tool? And a tax stamp. And to move out of Illinois. Meanwhile... ETA: IBTL |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:28:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you are 'quiet' effective with them hey? LOL Did you have any schooling at all or have you always been a goober? You are giving English lessons? LOL I bet you are one tough sob hey? They don't make people like you anymore, they broke the mold after you were born right? LOL
It's great, ya pass the hand lotion spud I think I am starting to see the beginning of a blister. I just want to die LOL. You did your mama proud son! HEhe |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 10:31:40 PM EDT
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Does anyone know if the 20ga and 12ga Shockwaves use the same grip? Or are the receivers different?
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