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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:00:16 PM EDT
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None Greasy but thanks for the mention. Today is Valentines Day and two years ago i was in intensive care with Regina looking at all the fucked up tubes ran down her throat. At least she was with her kids and all her students that day. 19 Feb is gonna suck worse. What the fuck ever. Last thing I give a shit about is a fighter thread in GD. Though they usually are fun. Not for a while here. Thanks for thinking of me brother. Kittehs are more awesome than ever...they bring joy. My boy is invited to the Arnold Invitational in Columbus Oh to compete in the squat challenge. He did 430 x 14 reps two days ago in preparation. The competition is twice your body weight for reps. His goal is to be 205lbs at weight in and do 410lbs 18 or so reps. Insane. My Regina did good with her two kids. Too depressed lately to even hog hunt...how sad is that. 
I'm glad to hear about your son though, that's indeed insane. Glad those awesome kitties of yours are helping a little bit as well! My ear is always open friend if you need someone to talk with. |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:05:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cancer stricken F-16 is best F-16. I don’t know why but the F-16 with the Dorsal Spine and CFTs and all the other electro optical and EW shit hanging off it is so sexy. It’s not sleek by any means but she looks so mean. |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:06:06 PM EDT
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My pops worked on them in the Airforce. He started on F4s then 15s, and finally 16s with the 311th and 310th out of Luke AFB in the 80's and 90's. My dad is cool.
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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:10:39 PM EDT
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I got a ride in an F18 but I think the F16 is cooler.
Tiny thing up close though. |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:37:00 PM EDT
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A Thunderbird pilot had to eject after a practice run at USAFA a couple of years ago. Saw pics of the plane afterwards, looked like it pancaked in a field south of town. It looked like they could set it on a truck and haul it back to Pete Field, then fly it again. No visible damage. |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:39:28 PM EDT
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...310th out of Luke AFB... Lots of GBU-12s and Willy-Pete rockets. |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:40:28 PM EDT
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The F-16 was, is and remains a stud in the air. I'd say it is arguably the most successful jet fighter ever produced when you consider all the metrics. It has amassed an incredible record in air to air engagements, second only to the Eagle and only then by a tiny margin. It has a far better kill/loss ratio than the F-86, the F-8, the F-104, the F-105 and F-4 that came before it. It is a true multi-role aircraft that can perform a wide variety of different missions and do them well. It was affordable enough to be purchased in quantities far exceeding that of the F-15. And it is operated by numerous countries and is the most numerous fighter in the free world. It has basically been the backbone of western and free world air forces now for 40 years. And it is still going strong today. The Block 70/72 Viper will be as deadly as anything flying today that isn't an F-22 or F-35. I'd say it has had a quite successful run. And the story of the F-16 hasn't yet been completed. It wil soldier on for many years into the future.
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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:54:02 PM EDT
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The F-16 was, is and remains a stud in the air. I'd say it is arguably the most successful jet fighter ever produced when you consider all the metrics. It has amassed an incredible record in air to air engagements, second only to the Eagle and only then by a tiny margin. It has a far better kill/loss ratio than the F-86, the F-8, the F-104, the F-105 and F-4 that came before it. It is a true multi-role aircraft that can perform a wide variety of different missions and do them well. It was affordable enough to be purchased in quantities far exceeding that of the F-15. And it is operated by numerous countries and is the most numerous fighter in the free world. It has basically been the backbone of western and free world air forces now for 40 years. And it is still going strong today. The Block 70/72 Viper will be as deadly as anything flying today that isn't an F-22 or F-35. I'd say it has had a quite successful run. And the story of the F-16 hasn't yet been completed. It wil soldier on for many years into the future. |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:55:14 PM EDT
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Sure, depending on what you are using for criteria.
I’ll go with the F-22 because it is so revolutionary and so much better than anything out there. |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:57:59 PM EDT
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Sure, depending on what you are using for criteria. I'll go with the F-22 because it is so revolutionary and so much better than anything out there. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:01:02 AM EDT
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Latest versions are looking a bit chonky. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_png-1276155.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_jpeg-1276156.JPG But they still get the job done. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:06:22 AM EDT
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Does it make me gay if I think the FA18 is moar sex? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/234934/US_Navy_071203-N-8923M-074_An_F-A-18F_Su-1276236.JPG |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:06:29 AM EDT
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The 22 is an amazing jet but it's pretty spendy and we'll never have more than a couple dozen of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sure, depending on what you are using for criteria. I'll go with the F-22 because it is so revolutionary and so much better than anything out there. 
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:11:42 AM EDT
[#14]
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None Greasy but thanks for the mention. Today is Valentines Day and two years ago i was in intensive care with Regina looking at all the fucked up tubes ran down her throat. At least she was with her kids and all her students that day. 19 Feb is gonna suck worse. What the fuck ever. Last thing I give a shit about is a fighter thread in GD. Though they usually are fun. Not for a while here. Thanks for thinking of me brother. Kittehs are more awesome than ever...they bring joy. My boy is invited to the Arnold Invitational in Columbus Oh to compete in the squat challenge. He did 430 x 14 reps two days ago in preparation. The competition is twice your body weight for reps. His goal is to be 205lbs at weight in and do 410lbs 18 or so reps. Insane. My Regina did good with her two kids. Too depressed lately to even hog hunt...how sad is that. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:14:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren’t those removable conformal tanks along the fuselage? |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:16:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wish ARF could do a Missing Angel formation for Regina sir. You have my condolences. God Bless you for the thought |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:21:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just hope we don't have people like Barack Obama and Robert Gates in charge when it comes time to start buying PCA and F/A-XX. I will forever despise those two fuckers for killing the F-22 prematurely. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:40:34 AM EDT
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None Greasy but thanks for the mention. Today is Valentines Day and two years ago i was in intensive care with Regina looking at all the fucked up tubes ran down her throat. At least she was with her kids and all her students that day. 19 Feb is gonna suck worse. What the fuck ever. Last thing I give a shit about is a fighter thread in GD. Though they usually are fun. Not for a while here. Thanks for thinking of me brother. Kittehs are more awesome than ever...they bring joy. My boy is invited to the Arnold Invitational in Columbus Oh to compete in the squat challenge. He did 430 x 14 reps two days ago in preparation. The competition is twice your body weight for reps. His goal is to be 205lbs at weight in and do 410lbs 18 or so reps. Insane. My Regina did good with her two kids. Too depressed lately to even hog hunt...how sad is that. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 1:01:38 AM EDT
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Hang in there. Thank you |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 2:22:40 AM EDT
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ETA: AD family pic at Eglin https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/353455/PICT0404a_JPG-1276207.JPG |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 4:57:11 AM EDT
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Selling and giving away a bunch of monkey model export versions to 2nd rate air forces around the globe doesn't make it better than the 15. Everything the 16 does, the 15 does better. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 7:39:06 AM EDT
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F-16's will always be special to me.
My father worked for General Dynamics on the F-111 and then moved to the F-16 program when it started. He eventually got tired of getting screwed over for promotion because he didn't have the right degrees and opened his own little machine shop as a subcontractor on the aircraft. To this day he is still a part-time consultant for the outfit he sold all his tooling to when he retired. I put myself through college and bought my first car on the profits from a rework project to fix some out of spec wing forgings another sub fouled up but didn't want to scrap. I have never been to Boeing's factory but to a kid the main building at the plant in Ft. Worth was a sight to behold back when they were coming off the line at full production. As you walked down the line you could see the aircraft slowly taking shape. Somewhere packed away at my parents house I think I still have a plastic model of the YF-16 painted in the original GD color scheme we put together at the kitchen table. I will have to go looking for that next time I am back home in Texas. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 7:43:48 AM EDT
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F-16's will always be special to me. My father worked for General Dynamics on the F-111 and then moved to the F-16 program when it started. He eventually got tired of getting screwed over for promotion because he didn't have the right degrees and opened his own little machine shop as a subcontractor on the aircraft. To this day he is still a part-time consultant for the outfit he sold all his tooling to when he retired. I put myself through college and bought my first car on the profits from a rework project to fix some out of spec wing forgings another sub fouled up but didn't want to scrap. I have never been to Boeing's factory but to a kid the main building at the plant in Ft. Worth was a sight to behold back when they were coming off the line at full production. As you walked down the line you could see the aircraft slowly taking shape. Somewhere packed away at my parents house I think I still have a plastic model of the YF-16 painted in the original GD color scheme we put together at the kitchen table. I will have to go looking for that next time I am back home in Texas. 
1886 hrs blk 30, 32, 40, 42, 50 and 52 I digress... |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 8:04:32 AM EDT
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1886 hrs blk 30, 32, 40, 42, 50 and 52 I digress... My dad was too much of a peon for me to ever get to sit in a finished one much less catch a ride. Closest I got to that was when he was building a high speed wind tunnel at the plant. They had a partial forward section in the same building. While we were there the building was otherwise empty so I got a few min of seat time in my head. Then again I got pretty airsick riding in a Super Cub and barely made it back to the apron before I got out to puke so perhaps that wouldn't have been such a great idea anyway :-) |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 8:14:07 AM EDT
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There were over 11,000 MiG 21 produced, plus 2400 Chinese Chengdu J-7 copies. Close to triple the number of F-16's I guess it depends on your definition of success. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/MiG-21_Lancer_C_cropped.jpg 
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Posted: 2/15/2020 8:25:32 AM EDT
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Latest versions are looking a bit chonky. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_png-1276155.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_jpeg-1276156.JPG But they still get the job done. H I C C |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 8:38:15 AM EDT
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Phantom is boomer plane. 
The F-16 has modern aerodynamics and electronics. It's far superior in just about any mission you can come up with and much sexier to boot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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F-4 Phantom. STILL #1. 5195 Built. Introduced May 27 1958. Still In Service Today. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/318250/phantom-sunset-1276160.jpg
The F-16 has modern aerodynamics and electronics. It's far superior in just about any mission you can come up with and much sexier to boot. 
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Posted: 2/15/2020 8:58:19 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They’re slowly being replaced with F-16s. http://www.f-16.net/g3/var/resizes/f-16-photos/album37/Romanian-Air-Force-F-16s/1606.jpg?m=1481973301 
And what are the former operators of those types switching to? F-16s, as quickly as they can afford to! |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 9:01:39 AM EDT
[#29]
20 years, 3 months and 18 days.
All F16 2w1 and 2A3. I have been elbows deep in vipers since 1986 and still deal with the everyday at work. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 9:02:22 AM EDT
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The 16 is all sciencey and practical and shit. The F4 flew because "fuck you, physics!", and that's how we rolled in the old days.
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Posted: 2/15/2020 9:17:44 AM EDT
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Phantom is boomer plane. The F-16 has modern aerodynamics and electronics. It’s far superior in just about any mission you can come up with and much sexier to boot. Furthermore, the most modern flying military machines in existence were all designed and developed by those stodgy "boomer" people. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 9:27:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just about every airplane design the Airforce, Navy and USMC is flying predates the birth of most of the young idiots throwing around the term "boomer". Furthermore, the most modern flying military machines in existence were all designed and developed by those stodgy "boomer" people. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 10:00:39 AM EDT
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F-4 Phantom. STILL #1. 5195 Built. Introduced May 27 1958. Still In Service Today. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/318250/phantom-sunset-1276160.jpg I would bet that they're right there with B1's taking off in full afterburner in sheer loudness. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 10:19:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Phantom is boomer plane.
The F-16 has modern aerodynamics and electronics. It’s far superior in just about any mission you can come up with and much sexier to boot. All stated they preferred the F-4 for wild weasel missions. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 11:02:13 AM EDT
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And still the loudest fucking jet ever. I would bet that they're right there with B1's taking off in full afterburner in sheer loudness. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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F-4 Phantom. STILL #1. 5195 Built. Introduced May 27 1958. Still In Service Today. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/318250/phantom-sunset-1276160.jpg I would bet that they're right there with B1's taking off in full afterburner in sheer loudness. I was supposed to get an incentive ride in the -16 years ago at Edwards, but the plan fell through.
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Posted: 2/15/2020 11:05:49 AM EDT
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It's worth noting that the single combat loss of an F-16, was to another F-16. So that's kinda a wash. Comparing it's record to the F-15, it's a credible Air to Air combatant. It's not quite as good as the 15 in the Pure A2A role but it is head and shoulders above everything else comparable. The Combination of the 15 and the 16 is pretty uniquely formidable in the annals of Aerial warfare. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:03:45 PM EDT
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No the ME 109 was not a jet , you are thinnking of an ME262 . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The ME109 jet? |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 4:50:57 PM EDT
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Never been a fan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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F-4 Phantom. STILL #1. 5195 Built. Introduced May 27 1958. Still In Service Today. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/318250/phantom-sunset-1276160.jpg It was glorious. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:05:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't an Indian Mig23 take a Pakistan F16 last year? I know it's an export version, but a Mig23....... Pilot quality makes a huge difference as well. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:38:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:53:55 PM EDT
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I call it Faith man! Thanks and always do. But sometimes I wallow in crap. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:59:24 PM EDT
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Departing Gila Bend auxiliary field
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Posted: 2/15/2020 6:00:26 PM EDT
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Aren’t those removable conformal tanks along the fuselage? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Latest versions are looking a bit chonky. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_png-1276155.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_jpeg-1276156.JPG But they still get the job done. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 6:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: An Indian Mig-21 shot down a Pakistani F-16. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Indian-Paki-Air-Combat-Exchange--February-2019---What-actually-happened/5-2230207/ Members here should know better than to promote Indian propaganda. Look up Christine Fair’ s comments on that February 2019 skirmish. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 6:54:27 PM EDT
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None Greasy but thanks for the mention. Today is Valentines Day and two years ago i was in intensive care with Regina looking at all the fucked up tubes ran down her throat. At least she was with her kids and all her students that day. 19 Feb is gonna suck worse. What the fuck ever. Last thing I give a shit about is a fighter thread in GD. Though they usually are fun. Not for a while here. Thanks for thinking of me brother. Kittehs are more awesome than ever...they bring joy. My boy is invited to the Arnold Invitational in Columbus Oh to compete in the squat challenge. He did 430 x 14 reps two days ago in preparation. The competition is twice your body weight for reps. His goal is to be 205lbs at weight in and do 410lbs 18 or so reps. Insane. My Regina did good with her two kids. Too depressed lately to even hog hunt...how sad is that. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 7:28:28 PM EDT
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20 years, 3 months and 18 days. All F16 2w1 and 2A3. I have been elbows deep in vipers since 1986 and still deal with the everyday at work. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 9:01:03 PM EDT
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Stay strong. Well wishes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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None Greasy but thanks for the mention. Today is Valentines Day and two years ago i was in intensive care with Regina looking at all the fucked up tubes ran down her throat. At least she was with her kids and all her students that day. 19 Feb is gonna suck worse. What the fuck ever. Last thing I give a shit about is a fighter thread in GD. Though they usually are fun. Not for a while here. Thanks for thinking of me brother. Kittehs are more awesome than ever...they bring joy. My boy is invited to the Arnold Invitational in Columbus Oh to compete in the squat challenge. He did 430 x 14 reps two days ago in preparation. The competition is twice your body weight for reps. His goal is to be 205lbs at weight in and do 410lbs 18 or so reps. Insane. My Regina did good with her two kids. Too depressed lately to even hog hunt...how sad is that. |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 12:08:17 AM EDT
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Yes, and they did much of it in the early days with slide rules and drafting tables which makes it even more impressive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Just about every airplane design the Airforce, Navy and USMC is flying predates the birth of most of the young idiots throwing around the term "boomer". Furthermore, the most modern flying military machines in existence were all designed and developed by those stodgy "boomer" people. |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 12:11:48 AM EDT
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Sure, depending on what you are using for criteria. I’ll go with the F-22 because it is so revolutionary and so much better than anything out there. |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 12:13:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They’re slowly being replaced with F-16s. http://www.f-16.net/g3/var/resizes/f-16-photos/album37/Romanian-Air-Force-F-16s/1606.jpg?m=1481973301 |
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