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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:06:35 PM EST
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That's the catch 22, at least in my brain. I couldn't spend money on a brand new Rubicon to then beat it up offroad. Waiting for it to go out of warranty wouldn't use it to its fullest capability. So if I was going to buy new i'd rather buy a lower(ish) model Wrangler and just put the parts I want to match exactly what I intend to do with it. Or i'll just buy use and do the same then not feel bad about beating it up off-road. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yup. Jeep said stating they'd start at mid 30s of course that was base price. Dealers selling shit optioned ones for 46k lol, and outlanders for mid 50k. Nah I'm good, I can get any of the big 3 with actual power and options and a raptor if nothing else |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:06:53 PM EST
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I'm thinking one of these would be a good replacement for my aging Explorer Sport Trac. Too bad there is no V8 option in the Jeep. Might wait a year or two for the diesel engine option.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:11:33 PM EST
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Looks stupid to me.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:15:18 PM EST
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I see them almost every day on the road. But.. I live in Toledo. ..
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:19:41 PM EST
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Next step, 3rd row jeep wrangler.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:22:40 PM EST
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Drove a Rubicon Gladiator this morning. Loved it. I’ll probably end up waiting for the diesel though to see how it is.
The dealership I visited this morning just outside of DC had 38 Gladiators on the lot apparently. None of them over sticker. Basically, you name the packages you want, you walk in the back and get your truck, and you leave. They have it all |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:28:53 PM EST
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jeep is a flop. only good jeep is a 20 year old one.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:30:26 PM EST
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Yeah only with heat, A/C, massive aftermarket support, able to drive over 300 miles on road trips, solid front and rear axles and will not be worth next to nothing in 5 years. So exactly like a UTV. LOL low information posters LOL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It’s like a big more expensive road legal UTV. Like I said, it’s like a big more expensive road legal UTV. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:30:52 PM EST
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Well it’s pretty much confirmed on the 6g site that per Ford through multiple sources, their won’t be a V8 or full size bronco. Just a EB v6 version then a “baby bronco” like an escape or some shit. If true,... the bronco weve all been waiting for with flop harder than the Gladiator. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:33:16 PM EST
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Drove a Rubicon Gladiator this morning. Loved it. I’ll probably end up waiting for the diesel though to see how it is. The dealership I visited this morning just outside of DC had 38 Gladiators on the lot apparently. None of them over sticker. Basically, you name the packages you want, you walk in the back and get your truck, and you leave. They have it all |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:34:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, for the asking price you can get a loaded half ton or a nicely optioned 3/4 or 1 ton Diesel. Makes zero sense at that price point... It needs to be 10-15k cheaper. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:36:23 PM EST
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A guy at work traded in his 2016 Ram Ecodiesel and got a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon.
$47,290, he got $31K for the truck (the truck was paid off and it had less than 36K on it). It's a nice truck. The dealer detailed his truck and it was on the lot for $48K. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:45:38 PM EST
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A guy at work traded in his 2016 Ram Ecodiesel and got a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. $47,290, he got $31K for the truck (the truck was paid off and it had less than 36K on it). It's a nice truck. The dealer detailed his truck and it was on the lot for $48K. The Gladiator doesn't compete with half-tons in terms of size and power. I chose it because I must have a manual transmission and the Tacoma and Gladiator were my only options with a v6 and 4x4. I like the boxy look of the Gladiator over the Tacoma, and the Tacoma is unrefined. This will be my first Jeep product. I'd love to have that 2 door blue one when my boys are gone, but I don't think they'll ever make it. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:45:53 PM EST
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Interesting prediction considering we don't really know specifics about the new Bronco. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More Gladiators are selling right now than Broncos will sell. ETA: dont mistake that for "jeep fanboi" speak. Had an 87 bronco for years. Great rig. Now Ive got a JKU. The Bronco was originally built to compete with jeep offroad. Its never been able to do that, fords always dropped the ball. Im sure they'll do it again. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 5:59:04 PM EST
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Next step, 3rd row jeep wrangler. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 7:41:50 PM EST
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It's like a jeep with built in trailer. Which you need because there's never enough room in a jeep. If I was in the market for a jeep I'd consider a gladiator.
Around here (Atlanta burbs) all you see are the new 4 door Rubicon lifted and trimmed out for crawling up Everest, without a drop of mud on them. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:15:58 PM EST
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Got a link to the info and site you are talking about? I have seen a lot of people assume it will have the 2.3 because of its ties to the Ranger but no mention of a V6 Ecoboost. If I was a betting man I would probably put money on the Jeep even though I am a diehard Ford fan Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:32:02 PM EST
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When the price is something like $10k more than a roughly comparably equipped V8 crew cab half ton sold on the same lot, it's a legitimate criticism. The Gladiator might be the coolest thing Chrysler has made in my lifetime, but if I was going to spend my actual money on a FCA lot for some reason, I'd get the 5th gen Ram 1500. That said, the Gladiator is intended to be low volume high margin vehicle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All the poor people in here complaining about the price is entertaining. The Gladiator might be the coolest thing Chrysler has made in my lifetime, but if I was going to spend my actual money on a FCA lot for some reason, I'd get the 5th gen Ram 1500. That said, the Gladiator is intended to be low volume high margin vehicle. Or by "roughly comparable" do you mean 4 wheels and 4 doors? LOL, the only thing even remotely close capability wise is a ZR2 Bison, which tows less (despite muh deezil), has none of the removable features, and the visiblity from them absolutely sucks, and there is much less than a $10k spread there . |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:38:37 PM EST
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Well if you want to haul a couch up Moab.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:41:08 PM EST
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talked to a salesman at a local jeep dealer, he also thinks they are stupid.
lots of logging roads up in the area, that the Gladiator cant go near. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 8:51:26 PM EST
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Well if you want to haul a couch up Moab. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/92324/A88A2DB2-3BCE-450F-9F5B-CC883570EEDE_png-1006860.JPG |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 9:07:26 PM EST
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Here is what you need
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Posted: 7/6/2019 9:46:37 PM EST
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So OP is saying theres nine sitting on a lot priced lower than invoice???? LOL. No dealer around here has one. One dealer said he could get me one in 4-6 weeks at $6,000 over MSRP. PM the info where nine of them are sitting on the lot, I'll buy one today and pick it up Thursday. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 9:50:01 PM EST
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What dealership? |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 9:50:21 PM EST
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jeep is a flop. only good jeep is a 20 year old one. Seriously. Bluetooth right in the factory radio!!! 
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Posted: 7/6/2019 10:05:43 PM EST
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talked to a salesman at a local jeep dealer, he also thinks they are stupid. lots of logging roads up in the area, that the Gladiator cant go near. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 10:26:05 PM EST
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I’m truly curious as to how you made the leap to this being the Dakota replacement. That seems like quite the stretch to me. Are we just calling things we don’t like Flops now or are you actually seeing them not sell? |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:18:43 PM EST
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Was at a customer's house yesterday, he brought home a new rubicon gladiator jeep (the truck). He was happy he bought it for $72k. WTF.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 12:21:01 AM EST
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....... $72k... That |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 1:25:02 AM EST
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Which half ton can you get with locker, dis connectable sway bar, removable roof and door, folding windshield,front and rear cameras, winch capable bumper a 5' bed and a 7000/7650 pound towing capacity for 10K less than a Gladiator exactly? Or by "roughly comparable" do you mean 4 wheels and 4 doors? LOL, the only thing even remotely close capability wise is a ZR2 Bison, which tows less (despite muh deezil), has none of the removable features, and the visiblity from them absolutely sucks, and there is much less than a $10k spread there . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All the poor people in here complaining about the price is entertaining. The Gladiator might be the coolest thing Chrysler has made in my lifetime, but if I was going to spend my actual money on a FCA lot for some reason, I'd get the 5th gen Ram 1500. That said, the Gladiator is intended to be low volume high margin vehicle. Or by "roughly comparable" do you mean 4 wheels and 4 doors? LOL, the only thing even remotely close capability wise is a ZR2 Bison, which tows less (despite muh deezil), has none of the removable features, and the visiblity from them absolutely sucks, and there is much less than a $10k spread there . Compare the other three trims of the Gladiator to half tons, and you still have a much more expensive vehicle that pretty much only gets you removable panels. That's not even getting into the Gladiator's modest power... |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 6:21:50 AM EST
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A lot of what you mention isn't equipped on the Gladiator until you check a shitload of options boxes starting with the Rubicon trim. A 5' bed and a 7k pound towing capacity is lower than probably every half ton on the market. Compare the other three trims of the Gladiator to half tons, and you still have a much more expensive vehicle that pretty much only gets you removable panels. That's not even getting into the Gladiator's modest power... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All the poor people in here complaining about the price is entertaining. The Gladiator might be the coolest thing Chrysler has made in my lifetime, but if I was going to spend my actual money on a FCA lot for some reason, I'd get the 5th gen Ram 1500. That said, the Gladiator is intended to be low volume high margin vehicle. Or by "roughly comparable" do you mean 4 wheels and 4 doors? LOL, the only thing even remotely close capability wise is a ZR2 Bison, which tows less (despite muh deezil), has none of the removable features, and the visiblity from them absolutely sucks, and there is much less than a $10k spread there . Compare the other three trims of the Gladiator to half tons, and you still have a much more expensive vehicle that pretty much only gets you removable panels. That's not even getting into the Gladiator's modest power... You can't GET that on any half ton truck at any price much less for $10k less money. You're talking out of your ass. Like it, don't like it, Gladiator is unique in the market and has no competitors that offer the features that it has. Will people USE those features? Doesn't matter, they're still there. The average ARFCOM Marvin Mulchhauler is probably better served with a Tacoma or a Ridgeline, but there is a market for what the Gladiator offers and today nobody even comes close. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 7:38:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Front camera is a $495 option, steel winch capable bumper is a $695 option, ZF 8sp is a $2000 option on a $44k truck (Rubicon MSRP) everything else there is standard. You can't GET that on any half ton truck at any price much less for $10k less money. You're talking out of your ass. Like it, don't like it, Gladiator is unique in the market and has no competitors that offer the features that it has. Will people USE those features? Doesn't matter, they're still there. The average ARFCOM Marvin Mulchhauler is probably better served with a Tacoma or a Ridgeline, but there is a market for what the Gladiator offers and today nobody even comes close. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 7:46:44 AM EST
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I have seen exactly 1 on the road, knew they would flop when I saw them. They are just hideous and at their price there is a better option everywhere.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 8:12:43 AM EST
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You can get a 360 camera on the F150 Lariat. ZF 10 speed is standard across the entire F150 line except for the base 3.3l V6 on the XL work trim. There's a billion aftermarket winches to choose from. That's just one truck off the top of my head. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Front camera is a $495 option, steel winch capable bumper is a $695 option, ZF 8sp is a $2000 option on a $44k truck (Rubicon MSRP) everything else there is standard. You can't GET that on any half ton truck at any price much less for $10k less money. You're talking out of your ass. Like it, don't like it, Gladiator is unique in the market and has no competitors that offer the features that it has. Will people USE those features? Doesn't matter, they're still there. The average ARFCOM Marvin Mulchhauler is probably better served with a Tacoma or a Ridgeline, but there is a market for what the Gladiator offers and today nobody even comes close. Front and rear lockers Disconnectable sway bar Deep transfer case Removable top doors Folding windshield Full set of skid plates Not $10k less is anything even remotely close to the same features or the same configuration. The only thing Ford has that is even designed to compete in a SIMILAR market segment is Raptor, which is wider, heavier, less capable in all but flat desert conditions and costs $10k more. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 8:15:18 AM EST
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I like them, but I like old school type 4x4s and it's the closest thing brand new to my old j10, I really want the blue 2 door prototype though
As far as base crew cab 4x4 msrp pricing: Crew cab 4x4 tacoma v6 ~32k Crew cab 4x4 ranger no v6- ~31k Crew cab 4x4 Colorado v6 ~32k Crew cab 4x4 frontier v6 ~29k Crew cab 4x4 gladiator v6 ~ 33k Mid size 4x4 trucks are expensive |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 8:19:30 AM EST
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Prove it. Find me a nicely optioned 3/4 or 1 ton diesel 4x4 for anything near a Gladiator's price. I'm $50k out the door on a marginally optioned Rubicon. There's your baseline. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 8:51:17 AM EST
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talked to a salesman at a local jeep dealer, he also thinks they are stupid. lots of logging roads up in the area, that the Gladiator cant go near. Wait till gator comes out.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 10:41:57 AM EST
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I drive by the Jeep plant in Toledo 4-6 times a week.
They seem to be shipping a lot of them. If they are shipping them means dealers are asking for them. If dealers ask for them then they must be selling them. A similar equipment level F150 four door is 15k less. We own two Jeeps now and are on my 5th one. I’m buying the F150. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 10:47:55 AM EST
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$45,500 on the lot with $2k auto, $995 cold weather pkg, $1295 Alpine Stereo.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 10:55:06 AM EST
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I thought it would be tidier as well... like a Scrambler with a more useful bed, but single cab available... I saw a Chevy Colorado the other day, an older one, I thought it had pretty useful bed size and fairly compact overall size(tho bigger than what I'd want for a trail/Jeep...
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Posted: 7/7/2019 10:56:59 AM EST
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$45,500 on the lot with $2k auto, $995 cold weather pkg, $1295 Alpine Stereo. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/96468/C5FAFE2F-3CC0-43A2-B28B-CF3414B2FC20-1007503.jpg |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 11:34:07 AM EST
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Front camera is a $495 option, steel winch capable bumper is a $695 option, ZF 8sp is a $2000 option on a $44k truck (Rubicon MSRP) everything else there is standard. You can't GET that on any half ton truck at any price much less for $10k less money. You're talking out of your ass. Like it, don't like it, Gladiator is unique in the market and has no competitors that offer the features that it has. Will people USE those features? Doesn't matter, they're still there. The average ARFCOM Marvin Mulchhauler is probably better served with a Tacoma or a Ridgeline, but there is a market for what the Gladiator offers and today nobody even comes close. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All the poor people in here complaining about the price is entertaining. The Gladiator might be the coolest thing Chrysler has made in my lifetime, but if I was going to spend my actual money on a FCA lot for some reason, I'd get the 5th gen Ram 1500. That said, the Gladiator is intended to be low volume high margin vehicle. Or by "roughly comparable" do you mean 4 wheels and 4 doors? LOL, the only thing even remotely close capability wise is a ZR2 Bison, which tows less (despite muh deezil), has none of the removable features, and the visiblity from them absolutely sucks, and there is much less than a $10k spread there . Compare the other three trims of the Gladiator to half tons, and you still have a much more expensive vehicle that pretty much only gets you removable panels. That's not even getting into the Gladiator's modest power... You can't GET that on any half ton truck at any price much less for $10k less money. You're talking out of your ass. Like it, don't like it, Gladiator is unique in the market and has no competitors that offer the features that it has. Will people USE those features? Doesn't matter, they're still there. The average ARFCOM Marvin Mulchhauler is probably better served with a Tacoma or a Ridgeline, but there is a market for what the Gladiator offers and today nobody even comes close. What options/features people will actually use is entirely relevant. Only a very small minority of these vehicles will go anywhere where things like the sway bar disconnects and lockers will be useful. For the overwhelming majority of people who do/will own these things, they're just buying a pickup truck with a fun shape, bright colors, and removable panels, and they will only really be driven in places any other 4x4 pickup can go. I've said multiple times the Gladiator is the coolest thing Chrysler has produced in my lifetime, but when you look at the pricing of it and compare that to the discounts and incentives on Big 3 half tons, the value just isn't there. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 11:37:33 AM EST
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It is certainly a niche market vehicle.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 11:38:40 AM EST
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This is what is should have been.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 11:42:52 AM EST
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Posted: 7/7/2019 11:45:11 AM EST
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Posted: 7/7/2019 11:47:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I upgraded when I found the JK had bluetooth. Seriously. Bluetooth right in the factory radio!!! 
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Posted: 7/7/2019 11:52:23 AM EST
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I was so excited by the concept photos over the years - the green Gladiator, retro looking with side mount spare. I was prepared to trade or sell it all for one of those.
One of these Soccer mom looking $50k+ Gladiators... Big nope here. Guess I'll stick with my FJ Cruiser and my older Jeeps ('07 Unlimited, '46 CJ2a) Edit - There are some cool pics in here. My local dealers are bringing in the leather seat, low sitting, car tire looking ones. I'd like to see one of those off-road package buggers in person. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 11:54:12 AM EST
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I think it's a cool vehicle. But I'm not super into cars. I do really like this concept variation.  |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 12:21:04 PM EST
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That $2k ZF 8HP transmission is standard on all Ram 1500s. What options/features people will actually use is entirely relevant. Only a very small minority of these vehicles will go anywhere where things like the sway bar disconnects and lockers will be useful. For the overwhelming majority of people who do/will own these things, they're just buying a pickup truck with a fun shape, bright colors, and removable panels, and they will only really be driven in places any other 4x4 pickup can go. I've said multiple times the Gladiator is the coolest thing Chrysler has produced in my lifetime, but when you look at the pricing of it and compare that to the discounts and incentives on Big 3 half tons, the value just isn't there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All the poor people in here complaining about the price is entertaining. The Gladiator might be the coolest thing Chrysler has made in my lifetime, but if I was going to spend my actual money on a FCA lot for some reason, I'd get the 5th gen Ram 1500. That said, the Gladiator is intended to be low volume high margin vehicle. Or by "roughly comparable" do you mean 4 wheels and 4 doors? LOL, the only thing even remotely close capability wise is a ZR2 Bison, which tows less (despite muh deezil), has none of the removable features, and the visiblity from them absolutely sucks, and there is much less than a $10k spread there . Compare the other three trims of the Gladiator to half tons, and you still have a much more expensive vehicle that pretty much only gets you removable panels. That's not even getting into the Gladiator's modest power... You can't GET that on any half ton truck at any price much less for $10k less money. You're talking out of your ass. Like it, don't like it, Gladiator is unique in the market and has no competitors that offer the features that it has. Will people USE those features? Doesn't matter, they're still there. The average ARFCOM Marvin Mulchhauler is probably better served with a Tacoma or a Ridgeline, but there is a market for what the Gladiator offers and today nobody even comes close. What options/features people will actually use is entirely relevant. Only a very small minority of these vehicles will go anywhere where things like the sway bar disconnects and lockers will be useful. For the overwhelming majority of people who do/will own these things, they're just buying a pickup truck with a fun shape, bright colors, and removable panels, and they will only really be driven in places any other 4x4 pickup can go. I've said multiple times the Gladiator is the coolest thing Chrysler has produced in my lifetime, but when you look at the pricing of it and compare that to the discounts and incentives on Big 3 half tons, the value just isn't there. So, yes absolutely all you have to do is discount all of the features that entail a Gladiator Rubicon (or any Jeep Rubicon for that matter) as meaningless fluff that nobody uses so they should be free, and suddenly your nonsense about "roughly comparable" makes perfect sense, LOL. You need to check your CO monitor , I think the batteries have died. So again, for the sake of clarity, tell me what half ton pick up there is on the market with the features/capabilities of a Gladiator Rubicon for $10k less money? No more dancing around the subject, which trucks are they? Showroom stock. I'll help you out, because I shopped like a motherfucker for one, because I really really really want and can use more towing ability for what is a very specific purpose. It doesn't exist. The closest thing is a Raptor and it is $10k more money, and is a much bigger truck with a dismal approach and departure angle, and no better break over angle. |
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